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[8:59] | * [8:59] [[User:Xugu Madison|Xugu Madison]]: Hi! | ||
[9:00] | * [9:00] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: Hello | ||
[9:02] | * [9:02] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Hey, morning. | ||
[9:02] | * [9:02] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: g'morning | ||
[9:03] | * [9:03] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Xugu, how's the grid mode work going? | ||
[ | * [9:03] [[User:Xugu Madison|Xugu Madison]]: Vaguely made progress, with a little luck I'll have it up in grid mode, for as long as it holds, in an hour or two | ||
[9:03] | * [9:04] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: excellent. | ||
[9:04] | * [9:04] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Saijanai, the people getting set up with PyOGP yesterday, did they get settled in? | ||
[9:04] | * [9:05] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: seems that we will need a way to match region coords with a grid? | ||
[9:05] | * [9:06] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: zzzzt - scratch that | ||
[9:06] | * [9:06] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: :) | ||
[9:06] | * [9:06] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Yes, there's some baggage with the viewer and coordinates. | ||
[9:06] | * [9:06] [[User:Xugu Madison|Xugu Madison]]: (about to make coffee, and still can't get used to not asking if anyone in SL wants some) | ||
[9:06] | * [9:06] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: TUX, are you bringing up a grid as well? | ||
[9:06] | * [9:07] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Xugu, I'm going to grab some after this. | ||
[ | * [9:07] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i was thinking it would register with each grid | ||
[9:07] | * [9:07] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: yes - i have a local one i can use, or my OSGrid regions | ||
[9:07] | * [9:07] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: I will try the local on efirst | ||
[9:07] | * [9:07] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Cool. | ||
[9:07] | * [9:08] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: any viewer changes required, or are we ready now | ||
[9:07] | * [9:08] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Grab the current Open Grid Beta viewer. | ||
[9: | * [9:08] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: k | ||
[ | * [9:08] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers | ||
[9:08] | * [9:09] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: does the LL grid location still apply? | ||
[9:08] | * [9:09] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: that is what is throwing me for a loop | ||
[9:08] | * [9:09] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: TUX, can you elaborate? | ||
[9:09] | * [9:10] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: well, on my grid, the regions are mapped at their coords - | ||
[9:09] | * [9:10] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: so i don't need to change that do i? | ||
[9:09] | * [9:10] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: yes | ||
[9:10] | * [9:10] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: just publish the URI? | ||
[9:10] | * [9:10] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: oh? | ||
[9:10] | * [9:11] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: let me explain further | ||
[9:10] | * [9:11] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: ok | ||
[9:10] | * [9:13] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: So, if you have a grid where there are regions at 1001/1001, 1001/1002, etc, and you teleport to another OGP region, your viewer will have cached views of those regions and if that new region you teleport to is at, say 1002/1002, then you have a view into them. | ||
[9:11] | * [9:13] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: them being the old regions | ||
[9:11] | * [9:13] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: ok | ||
[9:13] | * [9:13] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: it's a cached view that doesn't update | ||
[9:13] | * [9:14] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i see - ok, i can make a separate region for that with my present coords | ||
[9:13] | * [9:15] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: the other issue is if you jump from vaak, to a sim thats at grid coordinates such as 10001/10001, there's a viewer glich that shows up with you do a jump of 4096 or more. | ||
[9:13] | * [9:15] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: yes | ||
[9: | * [9:15] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: but, the region beside it is rendered correctly | ||
[ | * [9:16] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: an you get an avatar back when you enter the neighboring one | ||
[9:15] | * [9:16] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: so, if you're bringing up a group of regions attached to OSGrid, for instance, you'll have to juggle our list and OSGrids list of region | ||
[9:15] | * [9:16] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: so, in the next step , will we consider including the foreign grid server to place regions? | ||
[9:15] | * [9:18] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: what we call spaceserver is future work, we're still looking at what we're doing in next step of the beta. | ||
[9:16] | * [9:18] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: actually, i can take my present region, enable grid mode and point it to my grid server | ||
[9:16] | * [9:19] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: that works too, but again you'll need to see how to fit it into the current map | ||
[9:16] | * [9:19] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: spaceserver would be a good next step, i think | ||
[9: | * [9:20] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: and atlases in general | ||
[ | * [9:20] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i'm ok on my grid - and it's ok on the LL grid now | ||
* [9:21] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: what's your region URL? | |||
[9:18] | * [9:21] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: 2306/2306 | ||
[9:19] | * [9:21] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: [http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300] | ||
[9:19] | * [9:22] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: doh! I forgot that. | ||
[9:20] | * [9:22] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: ant that will be within teleport distance of my current reginos | ||
[9:20] | * [9:22] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: lol - yeah | ||
[9:21] | * [9:23] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i've gone "underground" so i can get some work done :) | ||
[9:21] | * [9:24] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: okay, I have to look at the script on my region, I got a report that's stopped working after I updated to top of trunk. | ||
[ | * [9:24] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: spaceserver would be a logical "next step" , but it would depend on how inventory plays wit crossing into other regions | ||
[9:21] | * [9:24] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Morning, Adamasch. | ||
[9:22] | * [9:25] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: hmm, i update all the contents of my region each update | ||
[ | * [9:25] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i have seen a few quirks with scripts | ||
[9:22] | * [9:26] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: although, you can probable just make a small mod to save it | ||
[9:22] | * [9:26] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: and it should restart | ||
[9:23] | * [9:26] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: just add a newline or space? | ||
[9:24] | * [9:26] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: yes | ||
[9:24] | * [9:26] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: cool | ||
[9:24] | * [9:26] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i kee an oar file that i just load after upgrading | ||
[9: | * [9:26] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: keep | ||
[ | * [9:27] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: yes, the OAR file is a great help. | ||
[9:25] | * [9:27] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i also need to check the engine on mine | ||
[9: | * [9:27] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: XEngine crashes me | ||
[ | * [9:27] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: physics? | ||
[9:26] | * [9:27] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: ODE | ||
[9:26] | * [9:28] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: ah | ||
[9:26] | * [9:28] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i know there were big problems with SQLite a couple of days ago | ||
[9:26] | * [9:28] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: okay, is Enus' holding an office hour this morning still? | ||
[9:26] | * [9:29] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: yes, there was a discussion of SQLite at the OpenSim office hours on Tuesday | ||
[9:26] | * [9:29] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: not sure if you were at that meeting? | ||
[9:27] | * [9:29] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: i think it is fixed | ||
[ | * [9:29] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: yes i was there | ||
[9:27] | * [9:30] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: I'm not seeing errors in SQLite and I updated yesterday afternoon | ||
[9:27] | * [9:30] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: okay | ||
[9:27] | * [9:30] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: Hey Im heading over to Enus' (morning all) | ||
[9:27] | * [9:30] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Morning Saij. | ||
[9: | * [9:30] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: ok, i'm going to see if i can get my region connected to my grid, if i run into anything i can document it | ||
[ | * [9:30] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: I'm going to get some coffee, since inventory transfer isn't working yet. | ||
[9:28] | * [9:31] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: I'll post this? | ||
[9:28] | * [9:31] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: do we need something on the wiki about this | ||
[9:29] | * [9:31] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: then reload the oar on my region | ||
[9:29] | * [9:31] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: setting up a region in grid mode? | ||
[9:29] | * [9:31] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: TUX if you want to write something up, that would be great | ||
[9:29] | * [9:32] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: ok, i'll document "my adventure" today :) | ||
[9:30] | * [9:32] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: cool | ||
[9:30] | * [9:32] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: ok, i'm off - you guys have a good day | ||
[9:30] | * [9:32] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: I'll post this to wiki unless you're tlkang more after I leave | ||
[9:30] | * [9:32] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: have a good one | ||
[9:30] | * [9:32] [[User:TUX Hultcrantz|TUX Hultcrantz]]: bye | ||
[9:30] | * [9:32] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: bye | ||
[9:31] | * [9:32] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Saij, no, I need to coffee up. :) | ||
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Latest revision as of 10:38, 12 September 2008
- [8:59] Xugu Madison: Hi!
- [9:00] TUX Hultcrantz: Hello
- [9:02] Whump Linden: Hey, morning.
- [9:02] TUX Hultcrantz: g'morning
- [9:03] Whump Linden: Xugu, how's the grid mode work going?
- [9:03] Xugu Madison: Vaguely made progress, with a little luck I'll have it up in grid mode, for as long as it holds, in an hour or two
- [9:04] Whump Linden: excellent.
- [9:04] Whump Linden: Saijanai, the people getting set up with PyOGP yesterday, did they get settled in?
- [9:05] TUX Hultcrantz: seems that we will need a way to match region coords with a grid?
- [9:06] TUX Hultcrantz: zzzzt - scratch that
- [9:06] TUX Hultcrantz: :)
- [9:06] Whump Linden: Yes, there's some baggage with the viewer and coordinates.
- [9:06] Xugu Madison: (about to make coffee, and still can't get used to not asking if anyone in SL wants some)
- [9:06] Whump Linden: TUX, are you bringing up a grid as well?
- [9:07] Whump Linden: Xugu, I'm going to grab some after this.
- [9:07] TUX Hultcrantz: i was thinking it would register with each grid
- [9:07] TUX Hultcrantz: yes - i have a local one i can use, or my OSGrid regions
- [9:07] TUX Hultcrantz: I will try the local on efirst
- [9:07] Whump Linden: Cool.
- [9:08] TUX Hultcrantz: any viewer changes required, or are we ready now
- [9:08] Whump Linden: Grab the current Open Grid Beta viewer.
- [9:08] TUX Hultcrantz: k
- [9:08] Whump Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers
- [9:09] TUX Hultcrantz: does the LL grid location still apply?
- [9:09] TUX Hultcrantz: that is what is throwing me for a loop
- [9:09] Whump Linden: TUX, can you elaborate?
- [9:10] TUX Hultcrantz: well, on my grid, the regions are mapped at their coords -
- [9:10] TUX Hultcrantz: so i don't need to change that do i?
- [9:10] Whump Linden: yes
- [9:10] TUX Hultcrantz: just publish the URI?
- [9:10] TUX Hultcrantz: oh?
- [9:11] Whump Linden: let me explain further
- [9:11] TUX Hultcrantz: ok
- [9:13] Whump Linden: So, if you have a grid where there are regions at 1001/1001, 1001/1002, etc, and you teleport to another OGP region, your viewer will have cached views of those regions and if that new region you teleport to is at, say 1002/1002, then you have a view into them.
- [9:13] Whump Linden: them being the old regions
- [9:13] TUX Hultcrantz: ok
- [9:13] Whump Linden: it's a cached view that doesn't update
- [9:14] TUX Hultcrantz: i see - ok, i can make a separate region for that with my present coords
- [9:15] Whump Linden: the other issue is if you jump from vaak, to a sim thats at grid coordinates such as 10001/10001, there's a viewer glich that shows up with you do a jump of 4096 or more.
- [9:15] TUX Hultcrantz: yes
- [9:15] TUX Hultcrantz: but, the region beside it is rendered correctly
- [9:16] TUX Hultcrantz: an you get an avatar back when you enter the neighboring one
- [9:16] Whump Linden: so, if you're bringing up a group of regions attached to OSGrid, for instance, you'll have to juggle our list and OSGrids list of region
- [9:16] TUX Hultcrantz: so, in the next step , will we consider including the foreign grid server to place regions?
- [9:18] Whump Linden: what we call spaceserver is future work, we're still looking at what we're doing in next step of the beta.
- [9:18] TUX Hultcrantz: actually, i can take my present region, enable grid mode and point it to my grid server
- [9:19] Whump Linden: that works too, but again you'll need to see how to fit it into the current map
- [9:19] TUX Hultcrantz: spaceserver would be a good next step, i think
- [9:20] Whump Linden: and atlases in general
- [9:20] TUX Hultcrantz: i'm ok on my grid - and it's ok on the LL grid now
- [9:21] Whump Linden: what's your region URL?
- [9:21] TUX Hultcrantz: 2306/2306
- [9:21] TUX Hultcrantz: [1]
- [9:22] Whump Linden: doh! I forgot that.
- [9:22] TUX Hultcrantz: ant that will be within teleport distance of my current reginos
- [9:22] TUX Hultcrantz: lol - yeah
- [9:23] TUX Hultcrantz: i've gone "underground" so i can get some work done :)
- [9:24] Whump Linden: okay, I have to look at the script on my region, I got a report that's stopped working after I updated to top of trunk.
- [9:24] TUX Hultcrantz: spaceserver would be a logical "next step" , but it would depend on how inventory plays wit crossing into other regions
- [9:24] Whump Linden: Morning, Adamasch.
- [9:25] TUX Hultcrantz: hmm, i update all the contents of my region each update
- [9:25] TUX Hultcrantz: i have seen a few quirks with scripts
- [9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: although, you can probable just make a small mod to save it
- [9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: and it should restart
- [9:26] Whump Linden: just add a newline or space?
- [9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: yes
- [9:26] Whump Linden: cool
- [9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: i kee an oar file that i just load after upgrading
- [9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: keep
- [9:27] Whump Linden: yes, the OAR file is a great help.
- [9:27] TUX Hultcrantz: i also need to check the engine on mine
- [9:27] TUX Hultcrantz: XEngine crashes me
- [9:27] Whump Linden: physics?
- [9:27] TUX Hultcrantz: ODE
- [9:28] Whump Linden: ah
- [9:28] TUX Hultcrantz: i know there were big problems with SQLite a couple of days ago
- [9:28] Whump Linden: okay, is Enus' holding an office hour this morning still?
- [9:29] Whump Linden: yes, there was a discussion of SQLite at the OpenSim office hours on Tuesday
- [9:29] Whump Linden: not sure if you were at that meeting?
- [9:29] TUX Hultcrantz: i think it is fixed
- [9:29] TUX Hultcrantz: yes i was there
- [9:30] Whump Linden: I'm not seeing errors in SQLite and I updated yesterday afternoon
- [9:30] Whump Linden: okay
- [9:30] Saijanai Kuhn: Hey Im heading over to Enus' (morning all)
- [9:30] Whump Linden: Morning Saij.
- [9:30] TUX Hultcrantz: ok, i'm going to see if i can get my region connected to my grid, if i run into anything i can document it
- [9:30] Whump Linden: I'm going to get some coffee, since inventory transfer isn't working yet.
- [9:31] Saijanai Kuhn: I'll post this?
- [9:31] TUX Hultcrantz: do we need something on the wiki about this
- [9:31] Whump Linden: then reload the oar on my region
- [9:31] TUX Hultcrantz: setting up a region in grid mode?
- [9:31] Whump Linden: TUX if you want to write something up, that would be great
- [9:32] TUX Hultcrantz: ok, i'll document "my adventure" today :)
- [9:32] Whump Linden: cool
- [9:32] TUX Hultcrantz: ok, i'm off - you guys have a good day
- [9:32] Saijanai Kuhn: I'll post this to wiki unless you're tlkang more after I leave
- [9:32] Whump Linden: have a good one
- [9:32] TUX Hultcrantz: bye
- [9:32] Saijanai Kuhn: bye
- [9:32] Whump Linden: Saij, no, I need to coffee up. :)
- [9:32] Whump Linden: have a good day