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Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:19:19 GMT

Whump Linden: /* How To Participate */

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are back up. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box| Please use the [[User:Pixel_Gausman/Interop_Viewer|trunk builds of Snowglobe if you wish to connect to an agent domain and use OGP teleport]].}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://www.metanomics.net/show/archive030308/ recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

{{:Warning|We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.}}

# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta was limited to main grid users.

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* None scheduled at this time.
===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081029|29]]
* November:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081112|12]]
* December:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081203|3]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:18:20 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are back up. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box| Please use the [[User:Pixel_Gausman/Interop_Viewer|trunk builds of Snowglobe if you wish to connect to an agent domain and use OGP teleport]].}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://www.metanomics.net/show/archive030308/ recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

{{:Warning|We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.}}

# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

{{Alert Box|If you have questions about the Preview Grid, see [[Preview_Grid#How_do_I_log_in_to_Aditi.3F| instructions for connecting to the Preview Grid]]. The OGP Beta is not the Preview Grid.}}

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* None scheduled at this time.
===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081029|29]]
* November:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081112|12]]
* December:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081203|3]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:17:02 GMT

Whump Linden:

= OGP Viewers =

If you are a member of the gridnauts group, wish to connect to an agent domain, and engage in OGP teleports, please see [[User:Pixel_Gausman/Interop_Viewer|Pixel Gausman's instructions for using Snowglobe with OGP]].

Use the [[Snowglobe|trunk build of Snowglobe]].

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:16:39 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Please Read the Following Before Downloading */

{{Warning|These instructions have nothing to do with the aditi preview grid.}}

If you want to connect to the Preview Grid, please follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page.

If you are looking for a '''release candidate viewer''' please go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page].

* The preview grid is also called the 'beta grid' or 'aditi'.
* If you insist on downloading one of the viewers below, you will not be able to login to the Preview Grid.
* If you see the message "You have to be a member of the Gridnauts inworld group to use the open Grid" then you have not followed the instructions above.
*# Go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page]
*# Follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page

= OGP Viewers =

If you are a member of the gridnauts group, wish to connect to an agent domain, and engage in OGP teleports, please see [[User:Pixel_Gausman/Interop_Viewer|Pixel Gausman's instructions for using Snowglobe with OGP]].

Use the [[Snowglobe|trunk build of Snowglobe]].

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:15:07 GMT

Whump Linden: /* OGP Viewers */

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:14:45 GMT

Whump Linden: /* OGP Viewers */

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:09:35 GMT

Whump Linden: /* How To Participate */

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are back up. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewer has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://www.metanomics.net/show/archive030308/ recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

{{:Warning|We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.}}

# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

{{Alert Box|If you have questions about the Preview Grid, see [[Preview_Grid#How_do_I_log_in_to_Aditi.3F| instructions for connecting to the Preview Grid]]. The OGP Beta is not the Preview Grid.}}

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* None scheduled at this time.
===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081029|29]]
* November:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081112|12]]
* December:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081203|3]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:08:41 GMT

Whump Linden: /* How To Participate */

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are back up. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewer has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://www.metanomics.net/show/archive030308/ recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# '''We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.'''
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

{{Alert Box|If you have questions about the Preview Grid, see [[Preview_Grid#How_do_I_log_in_to_Aditi.3F| instructions for connecting to the Preview Grid]]. The OGP Beta is not the Preview Grid.}}

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* None scheduled at this time.
===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081029|29]]
* November:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081112|12]]
* December:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081203|3]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:53:28 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Please Read the Following Before Downloading */

= Please Read the Following Before Downloading =

These viewers are for the Open Grid Public Beta only.

They should not be used if you want to connect to the Preview or Main Grid.

If you are not in the Gridnauts group, do not download or use them.

We are not processing requests for Gridnauts group membership at this time.

If you want to connect to the Preview Grid, please follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page.

If you are looking for a '''release candidate viewer''' please go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page].

* The preview grid is also called the 'beta grid' or 'aditi'.
* If you insist on downloading one of the viewers below, you will not be able to login to the Preview Grid.
* If you see the message "You have to be a member of the Gridnauts inworld group to use the open Grid" then you have not followed the instructions above.
*# Go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page]
*# Follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page

= OGP Viewers =

{{Warning|'''These viewers are for the OGP Beta only'''. If you want to connect to the preview grid, see [[Preview Grid]]. If you need a ''release candidate viewer'', please go to http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php. }}

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

LSL HTTP server

Whump Linden — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:00:29 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Script API */ Fixing typo on constant for region restart changed() event

{{LSL Header|ml=*}}
== Intro ==
This is the counterpart to [[llHTTPRequest]]. While llHTTPRequest lets scripts in Second Life request data from HTTP-accessible sources, this HTTP-in enables outside sources to request data from scripts in Second Life. The key difference is that llHTTPRequest exchanges data when the script in SL wants; HTTP-in allows outside sources to determine when they need to communicate with scripts in SL.

Prior to HTTP-in, similar functionality could be achieved by polling with [[llHTTPRequest]], [[llEmail]] and [[:Category:LSL_XML-RPC|XML-RPC]]. All three are cumbersome and the latter two have serious scalability bottlenecks.

== Uses ==
* Easily get data from LSL scripts to outside viewers, scripts or servers.
** Web front end for a visitor counter or other statistics accumulator.
* Easily get data into LSL scripts from outside viewers, scripts or servers.
** A store with a web front end that communicates to an in-world object to exchange L$ and inventory items.
** A game in-world where the primary game logic is handled by an external program which needs to manipulate in world items.

Gory Technical Details follow. Or jump straight to the [[LSL_http_server/examples | Script Examples]].

== Script API ==
* '''[[LlRequestURL|key llRequestURL()]]'''
: Request a new LSL Server public URL.
: An http_request event will be triggered with success or failure and include the returned key
<lsl>request_id = llRequestURL();</lsl>
* '''[[LlRequestSecureURL|key llRequestSecureURL()]]'''
: Similar to ''llRequestURL'' except requests an HTTPS / SSL URL.
: An http_request event will be triggered with success or failure and include the returned key
<lsl>request_id = llRequestSecureURL();</lsl>
* '''[[LlReleaseURL|llReleaseURL(string url)]]'''
: Clear the specific URL, used for both secure and non-secure URLs.
<lsl>llReleaseURL("http://sim3015.aditi.lindenlab.com:12046/cap/3ff4f3f2-ea08-76c1-cef6-a22b4a573a7c");</lsl>
* '''[[Http_request|http_request(key id, string method, string body)]]'''
: Event triggered when an URL is hit:
:* id is unique to this request
:* Supported methods are GET/POST/PUT/DELETE
:* body: The body of the request.
: Event also triggered with response to ''llRequestURL'' and ''llRequestSecureURL''
:* id matches the key returned by ''llRequestURL'' or ''llRequestSecureURL''
:* method == URL_REQUEST_GRANTED for success, URL_REQUEST_DENIED for failure to get an URL
:* body is the public URL. If unable to get a public URL body will be empty.
* '''[[LlHTTPResponse|llHTTPResponse(key id, integer status, string body)]]'''
: Send ''body'' to the requester with status code ''status''
:* id is the id from http_request that maps to the specific request
:* sending a response to the requestor will clear the request and delete information associated with it
* '''[[LlGetHTTPHeader|string llGetHTTPHeader(key id, string header)]]'''
: Returns the string for the specified header in the specified request.
:* Supported headers are:
::* "x-script-url": The base url, as originally recieved from llRequestPublicURL
::* "x-path-info": Any trailing path information from the requested url
::* "x-query-string": Any query arguments, the text past a ? in the url
::* "x-remote-ip": IP address of the host that made the request
::* "user-agent": The user-agent header as reported by the requester
requested url: ''https://sim3015.aditi.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/a7717681-2c04-e4ac-35e3-1f01c9861322/foo/bar?arg=gra''
x-script-url: ''https://sim3015.aditi.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/a7717681-2c04-e4ac-35e3-1f01c9861322''
x-path-info: ''/foo/bar''
x-query-string: ''arg=gra''
: This header information is valid for 30 seconds, or until ''llHTTPResponse()'' is called.
* '''[[Changed|changed(integer change)]]'''
:* CHANGED_REGION_START: New changed() event triggered on region startup.
* '''[[LlGetFreeURLs|integer llGetFreeURLs()]]'''
: Returns the number of URLs available to this script.

== URL Lifetime Limitations ==
* URLs are '''temporary'''!
* URLs will be lost in the following cases, all detectable by the script events listed with them.
** On object derez/rez: ''on_rez''
** On script save/reset: ''default state_entry()'' (trickier in multi-state scripts)
** On region cross or TP(attachments): '''changed() event, CHANGED_REGION and CHANGED_TELEPORT''
** On region restart: ''changed() event, new flag CHANGED_REGION_START''
* When urls are 'lost' it means that all public urls for that script are gone, new ones will need to be requested and the new urls will '''''not''''' resemble the old ones.
* Maintaining persistent URLs will require building or using an external service similar to how [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS Dynamic DNS] services work for tying domain names to dynamic IP addresses.
A Dynamic DNS service running on Google App Engine has been contributed as an example and can be found in the forums here:
http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=323981

== Resource Limitations ==
* There are a limited number of URLs available in each region, split by land ownership exactly like prim limits.
** Use llGetFreeURLs to get the exact number of available URLs for the script.
** The number of allowed URLs is the same as the number of allowed prims on the parcel the object is over.
**: ''Object owner does not matter, all objects over a parcel will use the resource pool for that parcel.''
**: ''Like prims, all the parcels owned by the same owner and in the same region share the same pool of resources.''
**: ''If you have two parcels in a region that each support 100 URLs, then you could use all 200 in object(s) on a single parcel.''
** The region's object bonus factor does not apply to available URLs.
**: ''If a parcel has a max of 300 prims in a region with a 2x bonus factor there will only be 150 urls allowed.''
* Each resident has their own unique pool of available URLs with a max of 38 URLs per resident.
** This is 1 per attachment point, but all 38 could be used by a single attachment for example.
* Vehicles are special and lazily moved to resident pools by the following logic:
** Any object that has a resident sitting on it is a 'vehicle'
** Vehicles will use the url resources from the parcel they are over until the cross a parcel border.
**: ''Specifically this prevents anyone from breaking your vending machine by sitting on it and making it a 'vehicle'.''
** When any object using URL resources with a resident sitting on it crosses a parcel boundary the resources will switch to the first sitting resident with enough resources. If no sitting agents have enough resources then the resources from the parcel being moved onto will be used. If even then there are not enough resources to use then the vehicle will be blocked from moving.
**: ''In short we do everything we can to find a pool to host the resources needed by the vehicle, but will block movement if we can't.''
* Parcel Sale: When a parcel is sold such that it changes the total available URLs in the region for either resident (seller or buyer) such that more URLs are being used than are available some objects will be returned.
** The objects returned will be from youngest object to oldest object of those using URLs in each category in order of object category: Temporary, Other, Group, Owner, Selected/Sat upon.
**: ''The '''only''' time objects are possibly returned is when parcels change owner, and only if more resources are being used than allowed.''
**: ''We return youngest temporary objects before older temporary objects before younger 'other' (owned by non-group, non-parcel-owner) objects etc.''

== Other Limitations ==
* Size of the body of the requests will be limited to 2k bytes.
* Size of headers of requests will be limited to 255 bytes.
* The size of responses to requests is not currently limited, but this is subject to review during testing.
* The content type of the returned data is always 'text/plain; utf-8'
*: ''Allowing more content type options is a possibility for the future, but not guaranteed.''
* There is a cap of 64 in flight requests per script. This is based on the maximum number of pending events in LSL.
* ''We may throttle the rate we accept hits at the CAP server level as well. This is possible, but has not yet been decided.''

== Links ==
* [[LSL_http_server/examples | Script Examples]]
* [[LSL_http_server/design | Design Document]]
* Design Jira:{{jira|SVC-1086}}

{{LSLC|HTTP}}
{{LSLC|Communications}}

Open Grid Public Beta/Public Regions

Whump Linden — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:00:43 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Whump Linden's OpenSim */

The following OpenSim regions supporting the Open Grid protocol are available for you to teleport to once you've authenticated to the agent domain:

This is value you enter into the region URL dialog on the login screen and the World >> Teleport Region command.

== Linden Lab OGP Regions ==

:OGP Sims on Vaak are up again --[[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]] 23:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/cccc1bb7-3446-981c-cab3-d757e0a3b5bc for Bethel
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/056398ad-5d3f-2b63-5195-30306844a108 for Oak Grove
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/64376bd2-e32a-5034-b47d-4edd2227f1db for Grignano
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/43efa885-5f86-5dc5-0839-f7eb1adc1713 for Pullman

== Ugotrade ==

* http://ugotrade.net:9000
* 24/7 if it is down I will restart
* Contact: Tara5 Oh

== COM.lounge / Tao Takashi / mrtopf.de ==

* http://plonetv.de:9000
* currently offline due to awaiting new patch
* Contact: [http://mrtopf.de/blog Tao Takashi]

== BlueWall ==

* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9900/BlueWall%20Isle
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9900/Bay%20Side
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9910/BlueWall%20Gateway ''Hypergrid gateway to OSGrid''
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:BlueWall Slade | Bluewall Slade]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://BlueWall.Slade@gmail.com BlueWall Slade]

== SimlandMax ==

* Region URL: http://simland.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:creator Luna]]

== Elsewhere ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.nowherevirtual.com:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (except for maintenance)
* Contact: [[User:Emma Nowhere | Emma Nowhere ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://emma.nowhere@gmail.com Emma Nowhere]

== LJPOGP00 ==

* http://98.26.97.209:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:Julie Wasserstrom | Julie Wasserstrom]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Julie.Wasserstrom@gmail.com Julie Wasserstrom]

== Luskwood ==

* http://opengrid.luskwood.net:9000
* 24/7, Not built out yet though.
* Contact [[User:Michi Lumin | Michi Lumin]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://michi@luskwood.org Michi Lumin]

== Akina ==
* http://213.186.37.135:9000
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:EloiseJolie Capalini|EloiseJolie Capalini]]
* Email [mailto://artana34@gmail.com Artana]

== Planck and Kaku ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.vworlds.co.uk:9000
* Times Available: 0:800 23:00 UTC 24/7 when new server is ready
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== Dirac, Fermi, Bohr and Pauli ==

* Region URL: http://mainland.vworlds.co.uk:9000/
* Times Available: 24/7
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== BrackenLand ==

* http://
* Temporarily offline
* Contact: [[User:Gomez Bracken | Gomez Bracken]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gomez@temptations-club.com Gomez Bracken]

== Piper ==

* Region URL: http://primforge.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [http://primforge.com/ Torrid Luna]

== Zinnemann Grid ==

* Region URL: http://zinnemanngrid.com:9000
* [http://www.zinnemann.com/grid.asp Zinnemann Grid Webpage]
* Contact: [[User:Hans Zinnemann | Hans Zinnemann]]

== Lakewood / Ducatillon Group Project ==

* http://dgpexperimental.selfip.org:9000
* 24/7 - might be unavailable for short periods as far as we update/maintain the location
* Contact: [[User:McCoy Ducatillon | McCoy Ducatillon]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://ducatillongroup@gmail.com McCoy Ducatillon]

== Burning Life Test Open Sim ==

* Region URL: http://68.178.191.56:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (Unless Under Update)
* Contact: [[User:Vicero Lambert | Vicero Lambert ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://jakekukuk@gmail.com Vicero Lambert]

== Litesim Mainland ==

* http://lsmainland.ogs-openuser.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 - occasional issues
* Contact: [[User:Gareth Ellison | Gareth Nelson]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gareth@litesim.com Gareth Nelson]
* About 10 regions on the grid
* Can also now do TP into other random (non-OGP) grids and tested with OSGrid and central grid

== Gridrock Worlds ==
* closed for the next few months
* Blog info: http://www.in2orbit.net
* E-Mail: [mailto://whyroc@in2orbit.net whyroc Slade]

== Douggles Hangout ==
* Region URL http://club-panty.com:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact bonghit Schism_External
* Email [mailto:pantera.42069@yahoo.com]

== Pixelpark ==
* Region URL http://pixelpark.servegame.org:9000
* online ('''updated''' to OpenSim 0.6 as of 11/14/08 on Amazon EC2)
* Contact [[User:Bartholomew Kleiber | Bartholomew Kleiber ]]
* Email [mailto://dirk.krause@pixelpark.com Dirk Krause]

== Five Miles Out ==
* Region URL http://taurus.fivemile.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime 1 Gbps
* Contact [[User:Jim Kupferberg | Jim Kupferberg ]]
* Email [mailto:info@fivemile.net Jim Kupferberg]

== Whichway From Here ==
* Region URL http://ae6vk.harpsichordyet.com:9000
* 09:00-22:00 SLT, but down at my whim.
* Contact [[User:Whichway Janus | Whichway Janus ]]
* Email [mailto:Whichway.Janus@Yahoo.Com Whichway Janus]

== Dahlia Island ==
* Region URL http://thnk1.dyndns.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Dahlia Trimble | Dahlia Trimble]]
* Email [mailto:dahliaTrimble@gmail.com Dahlia Trimble]

== 3Di OGP Test ==
* Region URL http://210.188.235.138:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Kish Kas | Kish Kas]]

== Bit Island ==
* Region URL http://mark.bitlife.jp:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact [[User:Bit2zero Planer | Bit2zero Planer]]

== metaXLR8 ==
* Region URL http://metaxlr8.com:9000
* Uptime 24/7, down only for testing and updating
* See http://metafuturing.net/index.php/MetaXLR8_OpenSim
* Contact: Giulio Perhaps

== La Isla West ==
* http://24.30.54.84:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:m0rdred Veil | m0rdred Veil]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://m0rdredveil@yahoo.com m0rdred Veil]

== AUGrid-OGP Norgan ==
* http://66.197.247.222:9005 http://ogp.augrid.org:9005
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/OGP%20Plaza - OGP Plaza
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/nortopia - Nortopia
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/augrid.org%20ogp - Augrid.org OGP
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/jodyville - JodyVille
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/66.197.247.222 - Test Numerical Sim name
* All regions are on AUGrid.org and Beta Grid
* Online 24/7 - Info and custom objects with land shaped like Aust. more info http://www.augrid.org
* Contact: [[User:Norgan Torok|Norgan Torok]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://contact@augrid.org Norgan Torok (SL)/Norgan Crazys (AUGrid)]

== Berlinos ==
* 1. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos
* 2. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos2
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact: [[User:Easyfresh Auer]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://easyfresh.auer@easyfresh-auer.de Easyfresh Auer]

== Bulli's Land ==
* Region URL: http://83.247.63.174:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:Bulli Schumann]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://bulli.schumann@gmail.com Bulli Schumann]

== GCSE ==
* Region URL: http://gcse.ath.cx:9300
* 24/7 uptime (unless NAT loopback fails)
* Contact: [[User:Herfulnerful Holsworthy]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://herfulnerful@charter.net Herfulnerful Holsworthy]

== Radioactive World ==
* Region URL: '''http://ct1aic.dyndns.org:9000'''
* Up as much as possible
* Also with 14 SIM's @ OSGRID
* Contact: [[User:Radioactive Rosca]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://radioactive.rosca@gmail.com Radioactive Rosca]

== Bloob box Island ==
* Region URL: http://87.98.134.166:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:kaly Mayako]]

== Chandra ==
* http://surya.grids.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Armon Aeon|Armon Aeon]]

== Ciuso Prime ==
*http://128.177.27.217:9000 or http://prime.ciuso.com:9000 - Not available currently!
*intended to be up 24*7 except for maintenance and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Sered Woollahra|Sered Woollahra]], seredsecondlife at gmail.com

== Lexania ==
* 1. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000
* 2. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000/Lexania2
* Uptime: Quite a lot
* Status: Three trees and a puddle (per region!) :)
* Contact: Why not
* Which one: SL in-world IM, to [[User: Lexa Sands|Lexa Sands]]
* E-Mail: Yes, SL in-world IM (while offline)

* (No SSL port configured at the moment)

==Kurai's OpenSims==
*http://zeitenwerk.de:9128
*Uptime: 24/7 - 100 Mbits
*Contact: [[User: Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko Yoshikawa]]

== TicTacToe for Gridnauts ==
* This "opensim" (world) is a test for "minimum requirements". We are using a Dell Latitude D600 notebook having a Intel Centrino 2.0 Ghz, 512 Mb (RAM) and a broadband line having only 256 Kbps (for downloads)/100 Kbps (for uploads).
* 2 avatares can play the tic-tac-toe game clicking cubes, that will rotate.
* http://titactoe.ath.cx:9000/TicTacToe
* Our "opensim" is hooked to OSGrid. Region: TicTacToe.
* If you like to do a test or a demo, please contact me.
* Contact: [[User:Adamascj Aji|Americo Damasceno - Adamascj Aji]]

== Beta Technologies OpenSim (Mini-)Grid ==
* Micro-grid for [http://betatechnologies.info/ Beta Technologies].
* The first four regions are co-located in Phoenix, Arizona (ping times should be about the same as to LL's grids); the last four in Portugal, Europe. The purpose was to test running a common grid distributed among two data centres. Servers are quite different in performance: the European server has much more memory and performance, but the network access is poor. The Arizona regions are on a low-powered server which however boasts excellent connectivity. The experience of going from one to the other is quite intriguing.
* Open for now as we just test things out; some regions might be closed in the future as this Mini-Grid begins to be internally used for our own projects (mostly as a temporary sandbox before transferring content to LL's grid).
* Uptime: ought to be 99.7%, except for upgrades and the odd reconfiguration. Some sims or parcels might be closed as this is being used for some internal testing.
* No support web site for now (users are created manually)
* if you wish to add your region to our Mini-Grid for tests, and don't wish to go through the fuss of creating your set of central servers, you're welcome to do so at this stage. Just contact us!
* Available regions as follows:
** 3650/3650 - Beta Technologies - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3650/3651 - Theatron - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3650 - Terreiro do Paco - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9002/ (lots of content here)
** 3651/3651 - Beta Business Park - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9003/
** 3652/3650 - EggVille - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3652/3651 - Beta Sandbox - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 7000/7000 - Half Way - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 11000/11000 - Far Away - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9003/

These last two are required because this minigrid is Hypergrid-enabled. So to jump across LL's grid and any other Hypergrid, due to the weird 4096-jump-limit, you need to jump to Half Way and later to Far Away and back.

* Contact: [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn|Gwyneth Llewelyn]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Gwyneth.Llewelyn@BetaTechnologies.Info Gwyneth Llewelyn]

== eaglefx Binder ==

Sunred Beach Gridnaut

* http://gridnaut.sunredbeach.com:9008
* 24/7 - it may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:eaglefx Binder | eaglefx Binder]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://eaglefx99@yahoo.com eaglefx Binder]

[[category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Public Regions

Whump Linden — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:58:21 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Linden Lab OGP Regions */

The following OpenSim regions supporting the Open Grid protocol are available for you to teleport to once you've authenticated to the agent domain:

This is value you enter into the region URL dialog on the login screen and the World >> Teleport Region command.

== Linden Lab OGP Regions ==

:OGP Sims on Vaak are up again --[[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]] 23:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/cccc1bb7-3446-981c-cab3-d757e0a3b5bc for Bethel
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/056398ad-5d3f-2b63-5195-30306844a108 for Oak Grove
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/64376bd2-e32a-5034-b47d-4edd2227f1db for Grignano
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/43efa885-5f86-5dc5-0839-f7eb1adc1713 for Pullman

== Whump Linden's OpenSim ==
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Interop%20Island
** Go here to get the key to exchange for your own Gridnaut Bear.
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Nomanisan%20Island
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Sinshan
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/The%20Bridge%20to%20Nowhere
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]

== Ugotrade ==

* http://ugotrade.net:9000
* 24/7 if it is down I will restart
* Contact: Tara5 Oh

== COM.lounge / Tao Takashi / mrtopf.de ==

* http://plonetv.de:9000
* currently offline due to awaiting new patch
* Contact: [http://mrtopf.de/blog Tao Takashi]

== BlueWall ==

* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9900/BlueWall%20Isle
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9900/Bay%20Side
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9910/BlueWall%20Gateway ''Hypergrid gateway to OSGrid''
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:BlueWall Slade | Bluewall Slade]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://BlueWall.Slade@gmail.com BlueWall Slade]

== SimlandMax ==

* Region URL: http://simland.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:creator Luna]]

== Elsewhere ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.nowherevirtual.com:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (except for maintenance)
* Contact: [[User:Emma Nowhere | Emma Nowhere ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://emma.nowhere@gmail.com Emma Nowhere]

== LJPOGP00 ==

* http://98.26.97.209:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:Julie Wasserstrom | Julie Wasserstrom]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Julie.Wasserstrom@gmail.com Julie Wasserstrom]

== Luskwood ==

* http://opengrid.luskwood.net:9000
* 24/7, Not built out yet though.
* Contact [[User:Michi Lumin | Michi Lumin]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://michi@luskwood.org Michi Lumin]

== Akina ==
* http://213.186.37.135:9000
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:EloiseJolie Capalini|EloiseJolie Capalini]]
* Email [mailto://artana34@gmail.com Artana]

== Planck and Kaku ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.vworlds.co.uk:9000
* Times Available: 0:800 23:00 UTC 24/7 when new server is ready
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== Dirac, Fermi, Bohr and Pauli ==

* Region URL: http://mainland.vworlds.co.uk:9000/
* Times Available: 24/7
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== BrackenLand ==

* http://
* Temporarily offline
* Contact: [[User:Gomez Bracken | Gomez Bracken]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gomez@temptations-club.com Gomez Bracken]

== Piper ==

* Region URL: http://primforge.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [http://primforge.com/ Torrid Luna]

== Zinnemann Grid ==

* Region URL: http://zinnemanngrid.com:9000
* [http://www.zinnemann.com/grid.asp Zinnemann Grid Webpage]
* Contact: [[User:Hans Zinnemann | Hans Zinnemann]]

== Lakewood / Ducatillon Group Project ==

* http://dgpexperimental.selfip.org:9000
* 24/7 - might be unavailable for short periods as far as we update/maintain the location
* Contact: [[User:McCoy Ducatillon | McCoy Ducatillon]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://ducatillongroup@gmail.com McCoy Ducatillon]

== Burning Life Test Open Sim ==

* Region URL: http://68.178.191.56:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (Unless Under Update)
* Contact: [[User:Vicero Lambert | Vicero Lambert ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://jakekukuk@gmail.com Vicero Lambert]

== Litesim Mainland ==

* http://lsmainland.ogs-openuser.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 - occasional issues
* Contact: [[User:Gareth Ellison | Gareth Nelson]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gareth@litesim.com Gareth Nelson]
* About 10 regions on the grid
* Can also now do TP into other random (non-OGP) grids and tested with OSGrid and central grid

== Gridrock Worlds ==
* closed for the next few months
* Blog info: http://www.in2orbit.net
* E-Mail: [mailto://whyroc@in2orbit.net whyroc Slade]

== Douggles Hangout ==
* Region URL http://club-panty.com:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact bonghit Schism_External
* Email [mailto:pantera.42069@yahoo.com]

== Pixelpark ==
* Region URL http://pixelpark.servegame.org:9000
* online ('''updated''' to OpenSim 0.6 as of 11/14/08 on Amazon EC2)
* Contact [[User:Bartholomew Kleiber | Bartholomew Kleiber ]]
* Email [mailto://dirk.krause@pixelpark.com Dirk Krause]

== Five Miles Out ==
* Region URL http://taurus.fivemile.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime 1 Gbps
* Contact [[User:Jim Kupferberg | Jim Kupferberg ]]
* Email [mailto:info@fivemile.net Jim Kupferberg]

== Whichway From Here ==
* Region URL http://ae6vk.harpsichordyet.com:9000
* 09:00-22:00 SLT, but down at my whim.
* Contact [[User:Whichway Janus | Whichway Janus ]]
* Email [mailto:Whichway.Janus@Yahoo.Com Whichway Janus]

== Dahlia Island ==
* Region URL http://thnk1.dyndns.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Dahlia Trimble | Dahlia Trimble]]
* Email [mailto:dahliaTrimble@gmail.com Dahlia Trimble]

== 3Di OGP Test ==
* Region URL http://210.188.235.138:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Kish Kas | Kish Kas]]

== Bit Island ==
* Region URL http://mark.bitlife.jp:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact [[User:Bit2zero Planer | Bit2zero Planer]]

== metaXLR8 ==
* Region URL http://metaxlr8.com:9000
* Uptime 24/7, down only for testing and updating
* See http://metafuturing.net/index.php/MetaXLR8_OpenSim
* Contact: Giulio Perhaps

== La Isla West ==
* http://24.30.54.84:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:m0rdred Veil | m0rdred Veil]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://m0rdredveil@yahoo.com m0rdred Veil]

== AUGrid-OGP Norgan ==
* http://66.197.247.222:9005 http://ogp.augrid.org:9005
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/OGP%20Plaza - OGP Plaza
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/nortopia - Nortopia
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/augrid.org%20ogp - Augrid.org OGP
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/jodyville - JodyVille
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/66.197.247.222 - Test Numerical Sim name
* All regions are on AUGrid.org and Beta Grid
* Online 24/7 - Info and custom objects with land shaped like Aust. more info http://www.augrid.org
* Contact: [[User:Norgan Torok|Norgan Torok]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://contact@augrid.org Norgan Torok (SL)/Norgan Crazys (AUGrid)]

== Berlinos ==
* 1. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos
* 2. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos2
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact: [[User:Easyfresh Auer]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://easyfresh.auer@easyfresh-auer.de Easyfresh Auer]

== Bulli's Land ==
* Region URL: http://83.247.63.174:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:Bulli Schumann]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://bulli.schumann@gmail.com Bulli Schumann]

== GCSE ==
* Region URL: http://gcse.ath.cx:9300
* 24/7 uptime (unless NAT loopback fails)
* Contact: [[User:Herfulnerful Holsworthy]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://herfulnerful@charter.net Herfulnerful Holsworthy]

== Radioactive World ==
* Region URL: '''http://ct1aic.dyndns.org:9000'''
* Up as much as possible
* Also with 14 SIM's @ OSGRID
* Contact: [[User:Radioactive Rosca]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://radioactive.rosca@gmail.com Radioactive Rosca]

== Bloob box Island ==
* Region URL: http://87.98.134.166:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:kaly Mayako]]

== Chandra ==
* http://surya.grids.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Armon Aeon|Armon Aeon]]

== Ciuso Prime ==
*http://128.177.27.217:9000 or http://prime.ciuso.com:9000 - Not available currently!
*intended to be up 24*7 except for maintenance and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Sered Woollahra|Sered Woollahra]], seredsecondlife at gmail.com

== Lexania ==
* 1. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000
* 2. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000/Lexania2
* Uptime: Quite a lot
* Status: Three trees and a puddle (per region!) :)
* Contact: Why not
* Which one: SL in-world IM, to [[User: Lexa Sands|Lexa Sands]]
* E-Mail: Yes, SL in-world IM (while offline)

* (No SSL port configured at the moment)

==Kurai's OpenSims==
*http://zeitenwerk.de:9128
*Uptime: 24/7 - 100 Mbits
*Contact: [[User: Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko Yoshikawa]]

== TicTacToe for Gridnauts ==
* This "opensim" (world) is a test for "minimum requirements". We are using a Dell Latitude D600 notebook having a Intel Centrino 2.0 Ghz, 512 Mb (RAM) and a broadband line having only 256 Kbps (for downloads)/100 Kbps (for uploads).
* 2 avatares can play the tic-tac-toe game clicking cubes, that will rotate.
* http://titactoe.ath.cx:9000/TicTacToe
* Our "opensim" is hooked to OSGrid. Region: TicTacToe.
* If you like to do a test or a demo, please contact me.
* Contact: [[User:Adamascj Aji|Americo Damasceno - Adamascj Aji]]

== Beta Technologies OpenSim (Mini-)Grid ==
* Micro-grid for [http://betatechnologies.info/ Beta Technologies].
* The first four regions are co-located in Phoenix, Arizona (ping times should be about the same as to LL's grids); the last four in Portugal, Europe. The purpose was to test running a common grid distributed among two data centres. Servers are quite different in performance: the European server has much more memory and performance, but the network access is poor. The Arizona regions are on a low-powered server which however boasts excellent connectivity. The experience of going from one to the other is quite intriguing.
* Open for now as we just test things out; some regions might be closed in the future as this Mini-Grid begins to be internally used for our own projects (mostly as a temporary sandbox before transferring content to LL's grid).
* Uptime: ought to be 99.7%, except for upgrades and the odd reconfiguration. Some sims or parcels might be closed as this is being used for some internal testing.
* No support web site for now (users are created manually)
* if you wish to add your region to our Mini-Grid for tests, and don't wish to go through the fuss of creating your set of central servers, you're welcome to do so at this stage. Just contact us!
* Available regions as follows:
** 3650/3650 - Beta Technologies - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3650/3651 - Theatron - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3650 - Terreiro do Paco - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9002/ (lots of content here)
** 3651/3651 - Beta Business Park - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9003/
** 3652/3650 - EggVille - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3652/3651 - Beta Sandbox - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 7000/7000 - Half Way - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 11000/11000 - Far Away - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9003/

These last two are required because this minigrid is Hypergrid-enabled. So to jump across LL's grid and any other Hypergrid, due to the weird 4096-jump-limit, you need to jump to Half Way and later to Far Away and back.

* Contact: [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn|Gwyneth Llewelyn]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Gwyneth.Llewelyn@BetaTechnologies.Info Gwyneth Llewelyn]

== eaglefx Binder ==

Sunred Beach Gridnaut

* http://gridnaut.sunredbeach.com:9008
* 24/7 - it may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:eaglefx Binder | eaglefx Binder]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://eaglefx99@yahoo.com eaglefx Binder]

[[category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Public Regions

Whump Linden — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:57:27 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Linden Lab OGP Regions */

The following OpenSim regions supporting the Open Grid protocol are available for you to teleport to once you've authenticated to the agent domain:

This is value you enter into the region URL dialog on the login screen and the World >> Teleport Region command.

== Linden Lab OGP Regions ==

Note: Vaak sims are down while hosts are being upgraded. Will publish new public caps as soon as they are back up. --[[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]] 01:57, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/05917fe9-3347-72d2-cb30-b19c995af1c6: Bonifacio
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/82d570ca-bc54-6c45-3e5c-86885fc24c54: Dore
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/bebb9435-8406-7925-8aab-f9bb7b00136d: Grignano
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/8656050e-a1b4-81ad-70d3-ba94971599c3: Vaak
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/aa1f3d29-62e6-0323-828b-b657b4b08e80: Ahern
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/0e6b6b40-0bb9-b40c-c673-523fa24c9f30: Ritch
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/7d55633f-df0e-0d82-1f59-ebd51de46bad: Miramare
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/720f8d50-617c-42c9-d5c3-2511a8ca2f26: Minna

== Whump Linden's OpenSim ==
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Interop%20Island
** Go here to get the key to exchange for your own Gridnaut Bear.
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Nomanisan%20Island
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Sinshan
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/The%20Bridge%20to%20Nowhere
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]

== Ugotrade ==

* http://ugotrade.net:9000
* 24/7 if it is down I will restart
* Contact: Tara5 Oh

== COM.lounge / Tao Takashi / mrtopf.de ==

* http://plonetv.de:9000
* currently offline due to awaiting new patch
* Contact: [http://mrtopf.de/blog Tao Takashi]

== BlueWall ==

* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9900/BlueWall%20Isle
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9900/Bay%20Side
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9910/BlueWall%20Gateway ''Hypergrid gateway to OSGrid''
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:BlueWall Slade | Bluewall Slade]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://BlueWall.Slade@gmail.com BlueWall Slade]

== SimlandMax ==

* Region URL: http://simland.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:creator Luna]]

== Elsewhere ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.nowherevirtual.com:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (except for maintenance)
* Contact: [[User:Emma Nowhere | Emma Nowhere ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://emma.nowhere@gmail.com Emma Nowhere]

== LJPOGP00 ==

* http://98.26.97.209:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:Julie Wasserstrom | Julie Wasserstrom]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Julie.Wasserstrom@gmail.com Julie Wasserstrom]

== Luskwood ==

* http://opengrid.luskwood.net:9000
* 24/7, Not built out yet though.
* Contact [[User:Michi Lumin | Michi Lumin]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://michi@luskwood.org Michi Lumin]

== Akina ==
* http://213.186.37.135:9000
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:EloiseJolie Capalini|EloiseJolie Capalini]]
* Email [mailto://artana34@gmail.com Artana]

== Planck and Kaku ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.vworlds.co.uk:9000
* Times Available: 0:800 23:00 UTC 24/7 when new server is ready
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== Dirac, Fermi, Bohr and Pauli ==

* Region URL: http://mainland.vworlds.co.uk:9000/
* Times Available: 24/7
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== BrackenLand ==

* http://
* Temporarily offline
* Contact: [[User:Gomez Bracken | Gomez Bracken]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gomez@temptations-club.com Gomez Bracken]

== Piper ==

* Region URL: http://primforge.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [http://primforge.com/ Torrid Luna]

== Zinnemann Grid ==

* Region URL: http://zinnemanngrid.com:9000
* [http://www.zinnemann.com/grid.asp Zinnemann Grid Webpage]
* Contact: [[User:Hans Zinnemann | Hans Zinnemann]]

== Lakewood / Ducatillon Group Project ==

* http://dgpexperimental.selfip.org:9000
* 24/7 - might be unavailable for short periods as far as we update/maintain the location
* Contact: [[User:McCoy Ducatillon | McCoy Ducatillon]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://ducatillongroup@gmail.com McCoy Ducatillon]

== Burning Life Test Open Sim ==

* Region URL: http://68.178.191.56:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (Unless Under Update)
* Contact: [[User:Vicero Lambert | Vicero Lambert ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://jakekukuk@gmail.com Vicero Lambert]

== Litesim Mainland ==

* http://lsmainland.ogs-openuser.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 - occasional issues
* Contact: [[User:Gareth Ellison | Gareth Nelson]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gareth@litesim.com Gareth Nelson]
* About 10 regions on the grid
* Can also now do TP into other random (non-OGP) grids and tested with OSGrid and central grid

== Gridrock Worlds ==
* closed for the next few months
* Blog info: http://www.in2orbit.net
* E-Mail: [mailto://whyroc@in2orbit.net whyroc Slade]

== Douggles Hangout ==
* Region URL http://club-panty.com:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact bonghit Schism_External
* Email [mailto:pantera.42069@yahoo.com]

== Pixelpark ==
* Region URL http://pixelpark.servegame.org:9000
* online ('''updated''' to OpenSim 0.6 as of 11/14/08 on Amazon EC2)
* Contact [[User:Bartholomew Kleiber | Bartholomew Kleiber ]]
* Email [mailto://dirk.krause@pixelpark.com Dirk Krause]

== Five Miles Out ==
* Region URL http://taurus.fivemile.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime 1 Gbps
* Contact [[User:Jim Kupferberg | Jim Kupferberg ]]
* Email [mailto:info@fivemile.net Jim Kupferberg]

== Whichway From Here ==
* Region URL http://ae6vk.harpsichordyet.com:9000
* 09:00-22:00 SLT, but down at my whim.
* Contact [[User:Whichway Janus | Whichway Janus ]]
* Email [mailto:Whichway.Janus@Yahoo.Com Whichway Janus]

== Dahlia Island ==
* Region URL http://thnk1.dyndns.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Dahlia Trimble | Dahlia Trimble]]
* Email [mailto:dahliaTrimble@gmail.com Dahlia Trimble]

== 3Di OGP Test ==
* Region URL http://210.188.235.138:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Kish Kas | Kish Kas]]

== Bit Island ==
* Region URL http://mark.bitlife.jp:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact [[User:Bit2zero Planer | Bit2zero Planer]]

== metaXLR8 ==
* Region URL http://metaxlr8.com:9000
* Uptime 24/7, down only for testing and updating
* See http://metafuturing.net/index.php/MetaXLR8_OpenSim
* Contact: Giulio Perhaps

== La Isla West ==
* http://24.30.54.84:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:m0rdred Veil | m0rdred Veil]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://m0rdredveil@yahoo.com m0rdred Veil]

== AUGrid-OGP Norgan ==
* http://66.197.247.222:9005 http://ogp.augrid.org:9005
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/OGP%20Plaza - OGP Plaza
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/nortopia - Nortopia
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/augrid.org%20ogp - Augrid.org OGP
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/jodyville - JodyVille
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/66.197.247.222 - Test Numerical Sim name
* All regions are on AUGrid.org and Beta Grid
* Online 24/7 - Info and custom objects with land shaped like Aust. more info http://www.augrid.org
* Contact: [[User:Norgan Torok|Norgan Torok]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://contact@augrid.org Norgan Torok (SL)/Norgan Crazys (AUGrid)]

== Berlinos ==
* 1. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos
* 2. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos2
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact: [[User:Easyfresh Auer]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://easyfresh.auer@easyfresh-auer.de Easyfresh Auer]

== Bulli's Land ==
* Region URL: http://83.247.63.174:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:Bulli Schumann]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://bulli.schumann@gmail.com Bulli Schumann]

== GCSE ==
* Region URL: http://gcse.ath.cx:9300
* 24/7 uptime (unless NAT loopback fails)
* Contact: [[User:Herfulnerful Holsworthy]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://herfulnerful@charter.net Herfulnerful Holsworthy]

== Radioactive World ==
* Region URL: '''http://ct1aic.dyndns.org:9000'''
* Up as much as possible
* Also with 14 SIM's @ OSGRID
* Contact: [[User:Radioactive Rosca]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://radioactive.rosca@gmail.com Radioactive Rosca]

== Bloob box Island ==
* Region URL: http://87.98.134.166:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:kaly Mayako]]

== Chandra ==
* http://surya.grids.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Armon Aeon|Armon Aeon]]

== Ciuso Prime ==
*http://128.177.27.217:9000 or http://prime.ciuso.com:9000 - Not available currently!
*intended to be up 24*7 except for maintenance and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Sered Woollahra|Sered Woollahra]], seredsecondlife at gmail.com

== Lexania ==
* 1. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000
* 2. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000/Lexania2
* Uptime: Quite a lot
* Status: Three trees and a puddle (per region!) :)
* Contact: Why not
* Which one: SL in-world IM, to [[User: Lexa Sands|Lexa Sands]]
* E-Mail: Yes, SL in-world IM (while offline)

* (No SSL port configured at the moment)

==Kurai's OpenSims==
*http://zeitenwerk.de:9128
*Uptime: 24/7 - 100 Mbits
*Contact: [[User: Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko Yoshikawa]]

== TicTacToe for Gridnauts ==
* This "opensim" (world) is a test for "minimum requirements". We are using a Dell Latitude D600 notebook having a Intel Centrino 2.0 Ghz, 512 Mb (RAM) and a broadband line having only 256 Kbps (for downloads)/100 Kbps (for uploads).
* 2 avatares can play the tic-tac-toe game clicking cubes, that will rotate.
* http://titactoe.ath.cx:9000/TicTacToe
* Our "opensim" is hooked to OSGrid. Region: TicTacToe.
* If you like to do a test or a demo, please contact me.
* Contact: [[User:Adamascj Aji|Americo Damasceno - Adamascj Aji]]

== Beta Technologies OpenSim (Mini-)Grid ==
* Micro-grid for [http://betatechnologies.info/ Beta Technologies].
* The first four regions are co-located in Phoenix, Arizona (ping times should be about the same as to LL's grids); the last four in Portugal, Europe. The purpose was to test running a common grid distributed among two data centres. Servers are quite different in performance: the European server has much more memory and performance, but the network access is poor. The Arizona regions are on a low-powered server which however boasts excellent connectivity. The experience of going from one to the other is quite intriguing.
* Open for now as we just test things out; some regions might be closed in the future as this Mini-Grid begins to be internally used for our own projects (mostly as a temporary sandbox before transferring content to LL's grid).
* Uptime: ought to be 99.7%, except for upgrades and the odd reconfiguration. Some sims or parcels might be closed as this is being used for some internal testing.
* No support web site for now (users are created manually)
* if you wish to add your region to our Mini-Grid for tests, and don't wish to go through the fuss of creating your set of central servers, you're welcome to do so at this stage. Just contact us!
* Available regions as follows:
** 3650/3650 - Beta Technologies - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3650/3651 - Theatron - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3650 - Terreiro do Paco - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9002/ (lots of content here)
** 3651/3651 - Beta Business Park - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9003/
** 3652/3650 - EggVille - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3652/3651 - Beta Sandbox - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 7000/7000 - Half Way - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 11000/11000 - Far Away - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9003/

These last two are required because this minigrid is Hypergrid-enabled. So to jump across LL's grid and any other Hypergrid, due to the weird 4096-jump-limit, you need to jump to Half Way and later to Far Away and back.

* Contact: [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn|Gwyneth Llewelyn]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Gwyneth.Llewelyn@BetaTechnologies.Info Gwyneth Llewelyn]

== eaglefx Binder ==

Sunred Beach Gridnaut

* http://gridnaut.sunredbeach.com:9008
* 24/7 - it may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:eaglefx Binder | eaglefx Binder]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://eaglefx99@yahoo.com eaglefx Binder]

[[category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:51:53 GMT

Whump Linden: /* In World Meetings */

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are back up. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewer has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://metanomics.net/archive080408 recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

{{Alert Box|If you have questions about the Preview Grid, see [[Preview_Grid#How_do_I_log_in_to_Aditi.3F| instructions for connecting to the Preview Grid]]. The OGP Beta is not the Preview Grid.}}

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* None scheduled at this time.
===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081029|29]]
* November:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081112|12]]
* December:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081203|3]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

User:Whump Linden/Office Hours

Whump Linden — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:50:57 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Office Hours
|Resident=Whump Linden
|location=[http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office Whump's Office]
|times=On Hold, Pending New OGP Beta Projects
|topics=Topic: [[Open Grid Public Beta]]
|voice=
|}}

User:Whump Linden/Office Hours

Whump Linden — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:49:31 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Office Hours
|Resident=Whump Linden
|location=[http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office Whump's Office]
|On Hold, Pending New OGP Beta Projects
|topics=Topic: [[Open Grid Public Beta]]
|voice=
|}}

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:18:24 GMT

Whump Linden: /* OGP Viewers */

= Please Read the Following Before Downloading =

These viewers are for the Open Grid Public Beta only. They should not be used if you want to connect to the Preview Grid.

If you want to connect to the Preview Grid, please follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page.

If you are looking for a '''release candidate viewer''' please go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page].

* The preview grid is also called the 'beta grid' or 'aditi'.
* If you insist on downloading one of the viewers below, you will not be able to login to the Preview Grid.
* If you see the message "You have to be a member of the Gridnauts inworld group to use the open Grid" then you have not followed the instructions above.
*# Go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page]
*# Follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page

= OGP Viewers =

{{Warning|'''These viewers are for the OGP Beta only'''. If you want to connect to the preview grid, see https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Preview_Grid. If you need a ''release candidate viewer'', please go to http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php. }}

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:18:06 GMT

Whump Linden: /* OGP Viewers */

= Please Read the Following Before Downloading =

These viewers are for the Open Grid Public Beta only. They should not be used if you want to connect to the Preview Grid.

If you want to connect to the Preview Grid, please follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page.

If you are looking for a '''release candidate viewer''' please go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page].

* The preview grid is also called the 'beta grid' or 'aditi'.
* If you insist on downloading one of the viewers below, you will not be able to login to the Preview Grid.
* If you see the message "You have to be a member of the Gridnauts inworld group to use the open Grid" then you have not followed the instructions above.
*# Go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page]
*# Follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page

= OGP Viewers =

{{ Warning | '''These viewers are for the OGP Beta only'''. If you want to connect to the preview grid, see https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Preview_Grid. If you need a ''release candidate viewer'', please go to http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php. }}

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:14:40 GMT

Whump Linden: /* How To Participate */

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are back up. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewer has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://metanomics.net/archive080408 recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

{{Alert Box|If you have questions about the Preview Grid, see [[Preview_Grid#How_do_I_log_in_to_Aditi.3F| instructions for connecting to the Preview Grid]]. The OGP Beta is not the Preview Grid.}}

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* '''Wednesday''', 1:30PM SLT, [[User:Whump_Linden| Whump Linden office hours]] @ [http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office ambleside office]

===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081029|29]]
* November:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081112|12]]
* December:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081203|3]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:14:15 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are back up. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewer has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://metanomics.net/archive080408 recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

{{Alert Box|If you have questions about the Preview Grid, see [[Preview_Grid#How_do_I_log_in_to_Aditi.3F| instructions for connecting to the Preview Grid]].}}

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* '''Wednesday''', 1:30PM SLT, [[User:Whump_Linden| Whump Linden office hours]] @ [http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office ambleside office]

===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081029|29]]
* November:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081112|12]]
* December:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081203|3]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:33:53 GMT

Whump Linden:

= Please Read the Following Before Downloading =

These viewers are for the Open Grid Public Beta only. They should not be used if you want to connect to the Preview Grid.

If you want to connect to the Preview Grid, please follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page.

If you are looking for a '''release candidate viewer''' please go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page].

* The preview grid is also called the 'beta grid' or 'aditi'.
* If you insist on downloading one of the viewers below, you will not be able to login to the Preview Grid.
* If you see the message "You have to be a member of the Gridnauts inworld group to use the open Grid" then you have not followed the instructions above.
*# Go to the [http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php downloads page]
*# Follow the instructions on the [[Preview_Grid | Preview Grid]] page

= OGP Viewers =

{{ Alert Box| '''READ THIS: These viewers are for the OGP Beta only'''. If you want to connect to the preview grid, see https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Preview_Grid. If you need a ''release candidate viewer'', please go to http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php. }}

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:58:18 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{ Alert Box| '''READ THIS: These viewers are for the OGP Beta only'''. If you want to connect to the preview grid, see https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Preview_Grid. If you need a ''release candidate viewer'', please go to http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php. }}

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Teleport How To

Whump Linden — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:43:10 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Log In */

{{Alert Box|Remember that you need to accept the invitation to the Gridnauts group on the Preview Grid (Aditi) before you attempt to teleport. See [[Preview_Grid#How_do_I_log_in_to_Aditi.3F|the preview grid login instructions]].}}

== Download and Install Open Grid Viewer ==

# Download the viewer from [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|here]].
# The viewer is named "Open Grid" so you can install it without conflict with your existing Second Life viewer.
# Launch the viewer.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_1.jpg]]

== Log In ==

# Note the new field, "Region URL" in the lower right hand pane of the splash/login screen.
# Enter "https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/8656050e-a1b4-81ad-70d3-ba94971599c3", without quotes and without a trailing slash (see [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8382 VWR-8382] ).
# Enter your user name and password, and press connect. (Your avatar must belong to the Gridnauts inworld group)

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_2.jpg]]

* When you login, you will be 'ruthed'.
* The system may also ask if you want your avatar to be male or female.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_3.jpg]]

* Note that you will not have access to your inventory.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_4.jpg]]

== Teleporting to an Open Sim Region ==

* From the "World" menu, select "Teleport Region".
** The teleport floater will only display if you originally logged in with a Region URL.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_5.jpg]]

# Enter the URL of your patched OpenSim region.
# Press teleport.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_6.jpg]]

* You will rez, once again, 'ruthed' on your OpenSim region.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_7.jpg]]

* You can check "Help" > "About" from the menu to confirm that you are on your OpenSim region.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_8.jpg]]

Congratulations! Gridnaut. You've Teleported Across The Grid!

A list of public regions to connect to is here: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|Public Regions]]

Send a screenshot of your avatar (with nametag) and the about screen to the gridnauts list for your special [[:Image:Open Grid Public Beta Gridnaut Linden Bear.jpg|Gridnaut bear]].

== Troubleshooting ==

* If you see the not in gridnauts message when logging into the Open Grid viewer, please check your account on the beta grid with a release viewer to confirm you are in the gridnauts group.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_9.jpg]]

* If you show up as a 'puffball' ruth on an externally hosted sim, right click on yourself and select 'Edit Appearance,' but don't save. (See [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763].)

* If you get an invalid region error when you attempt to teleport, check your OpenSim's bin/Regions/default.xml
** The attributes sim_location_x, and sim_location_y should not conflict with coordinates on the Second Life grid.
** Check the page [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Map_Locations]] and claim a non-conflicting set of coordinates.
** You might check and see if putting your region name in the "Start Location" helps
[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_11.jpg]]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Teleport How To

Whump Linden — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:42:47 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Log In */

{{Alert Box|Remember that you need to accept the invitation to the Gridnauts group on the Preview Grid (Aditi) before you attempt to teleport. See [[Preview_Grid#How_do_I_log_in_to_Aditi.3F|the preview grid login instructions]].}}

== Download and Install Open Grid Viewer ==

# Download the viewer from [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|here]].
# The viewer is named "Open Grid" so you can install it without conflict with your existing Second Life viewer.
# Launch the viewer.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_1.jpg]]

== Log In ==

# Note the new field, "Region URL" in the lower right hand pane of the splash/login screen.
# Enter "[https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/8656050e-a1b4-81ad-70d3-ba94971599c3]", without quotes and without a trailing slash (see [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8382 VWR-8382] ).
# Enter your user name and password, and press connect. (Your avatar must belong to the Gridnauts inworld group)

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_2.jpg]]

* When you login, you will be 'ruthed'.
* The system may also ask if you want your avatar to be male or female.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_3.jpg]]

* Note that you will not have access to your inventory.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_4.jpg]]

== Teleporting to an Open Sim Region ==

* From the "World" menu, select "Teleport Region".
** The teleport floater will only display if you originally logged in with a Region URL.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_5.jpg]]

# Enter the URL of your patched OpenSim region.
# Press teleport.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_6.jpg]]

* You will rez, once again, 'ruthed' on your OpenSim region.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_7.jpg]]

* You can check "Help" > "About" from the menu to confirm that you are on your OpenSim region.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_8.jpg]]

Congratulations! Gridnaut. You've Teleported Across The Grid!

A list of public regions to connect to is here: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|Public Regions]]

Send a screenshot of your avatar (with nametag) and the about screen to the gridnauts list for your special [[:Image:Open Grid Public Beta Gridnaut Linden Bear.jpg|Gridnaut bear]].

== Troubleshooting ==

* If you see the not in gridnauts message when logging into the Open Grid viewer, please check your account on the beta grid with a release viewer to confirm you are in the gridnauts group.

[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_9.jpg]]

* If you show up as a 'puffball' ruth on an externally hosted sim, right click on yourself and select 'Edit Appearance,' but don't save. (See [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763].)

* If you get an invalid region error when you attempt to teleport, check your OpenSim's bin/Regions/default.xml
** The attributes sim_location_x, and sim_location_y should not conflict with coordinates on the Second Life grid.
** Check the page [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Map_Locations]] and claim a non-conflicting set of coordinates.
** You might check and see if putting your region name in the "Start Location" helps
[[Image:Ogpb_teleport_howto_11.jpg]]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:15:04 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are back up. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewer has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://metanomics.net/archive080408 recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* '''Wednesday''', 1:30PM SLT, [[User:Whump_Linden| Whump Linden office hours]] @ [http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office ambleside office]

===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Public Regions

Whump Linden — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:11:28 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Linden Lab OGP Regions */

The following OpenSim regions supporting the Open Grid protocol are available for you to teleport to once you've authenticated to the agent domain:

This is value you enter into the region URL dialog on the login screen and the World >> Teleport Region command.

== Linden Lab OGP Regions ==

* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/05917fe9-3347-72d2-cb30-b19c995af1c6: Bonifacio
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/82d570ca-bc54-6c45-3e5c-86885fc24c54: Dore
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/bebb9435-8406-7925-8aab-f9bb7b00136d: Grignano
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/8656050e-a1b4-81ad-70d3-ba94971599c3: Vaak
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/aa1f3d29-62e6-0323-828b-b657b4b08e80: Ahern
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/0e6b6b40-0bb9-b40c-c673-523fa24c9f30: Ritch
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/7d55633f-df0e-0d82-1f59-ebd51de46bad: Miramare
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/720f8d50-617c-42c9-d5c3-2511a8ca2f26: Minna

== Whump Linden's OpenSim ==
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Interop%20Island
** Go here to get the key to exchange for your own Gridnaut Bear.
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Nomanisan%20Island
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Sinshan
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/The%20Bridge%20to%20Nowhere
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]

== Ugotrade ==

* http://ugotrade.net:9000
* 24/7 if it is down I will restart
* Contact: Tara5 Oh

== COM.lounge / Tao Takashi / mrtopf.de ==

* http://plonetv.de:9000
* currently offline due to awaiting new patch
* Contact: [http://mrtopf.de/blog Tao Takashi]

== BlueWall ==

* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300/BlueWall%20Isle
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300/Bay%20Side
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:BlueWall Slade | Bluewall Slade]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://BlueWall.Slade@gmail.com BlueWall Slade]

== SimlandMax ==

* Region URL: http://simland.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:creator Luna]]

== Elsewhere ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.nowherevirtual.com:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (except for maintenance)
* Contact: [[User:Emma Nowhere | Emma Nowhere ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://emma.nowhere@gmail.com Emma Nowhere]

== LJPOGP00 ==

* http://98.26.97.209:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:Julie Wasserstrom | Julie Wasserstrom]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Julie.Wasserstrom@gmail.com Julie Wasserstrom]

== Luskwood ==

* http://opengrid.luskwood.net:9000
* 24/7, Not built out yet though.
* Contact [[User:Michi Lumin | Michi Lumin]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://michi@luskwood.org Michi Lumin]

== Akina ==
* http://213.186.37.135:9000
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:EloiseJolie Capalini|EloiseJolie Capalini]]
* Email [mailto://artana34@gmail.com Artana]

== Planck and Kaku ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.vworlds.co.uk:9000
* Times Available: 0:800 23:00 UTC 24/7 when new server is ready
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== Dirac, Fermi, Bohr and Pauli ==

* Region URL: http://mainland.vworlds.co.uk:9000/
* Times Available: 24/7
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== BrackenLand ==

* http://
* Temporarily offline
* Contact: [[User:Gomez Bracken | Gomez Bracken]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gomez@temptations-club.com Gomez Bracken]

== Piper ==

* Region URL: http://primforge.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [http://primforge.com/ Torrid Luna]

== Zinnemann Grid ==

* Region URL: http://zinnemanngrid.com:9000
* [http://www.zinnemann.com/grid.asp Zinnemann Grid Webpage]
* Contact: [[User:Hans Zinnemann | Hans Zinnemann]]

== Lakewood / Ducatillon Group Project ==

* http://dgpexperimental.selfip.org:9000
* 24/7 - might be unavailable for short periods as far as we update/maintain the location
* Contact: [[User:McCoy Ducatillon | McCoy Ducatillon]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://ducatillongroup@gmail.com McCoy Ducatillon]

== Burning Life Test Open Sim ==

* Region URL: http://68.178.191.56:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (Unless Under Update)
* Contact: [[User:Vicero Lambert | Vicero Lambert ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://jakekukuk@gmail.com Vicero Lambert]

== Litesim Mainland ==

* http://lsmainland.ogs-openuser.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 - occasional issues
* Contact: [[User:Gareth Ellison | Gareth Nelson]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gareth@litesim.com Gareth Nelson]
* About 10 regions on the grid
* Can also now do TP into other random (non-OGP) grids and tested with OSGrid and central grid

== Gridrock Worlds ==
* closed for the next few months
* Blog info: http://www.in2orbit.net
* E-Mail: [mailto://whyroc@in2orbit.net whyroc Slade]

== Douggles Hangout ==
* Region URL http://club-panty.com:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact bonghit Schism_External
* Email [mailto:pantera.42069@yahoo.com]

== Pixelpark ==
* Region URL http://curious.servegame.org:9000
* online ('''updated''' to r6665 as of 10/04/08)
* Contact [[User:Bartholomew Kleiber | Bartholomew Kleiber ]]
* Email [mailto://dirk.krause@pixelpark.com Dirk Krause]

== Five Miles Out ==
* Region URL http://taurus.fivemile.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime 1 Gbps
* Contact [[User:Jim Kupferberg | Jim Kupferberg ]]
* Email [mailto:info@fivemile.net Jim Kupferberg]

== Whichway From Here ==
* Region URL http://ae6vk.harpsichordyet.com:9000
* 09:00-22:00 SLT, but down at my whim.
* Contact [[User:Whichway Janus | Whichway Janus ]]
* Email [mailto:Whichway.Janus@Yahoo.Com Whichway Janus]

== Dahlia Island ==
* Region URL http://thnk1.dyndns.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Dahlia Trimble | Dahlia Trimble]]
* Email [mailto:dahliaTrimble@gmail.com Dahlia Trimble]

== 3Di OGP Test ==
* Region URL http://210.188.235.138:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Kish Kas | Kish Kas]]

== Bit Island ==
* Region URL http://mark.bitlife.jp:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact [[User:Bit2zero Planer | Bit2zero Planer]]

== metaXLR8 ==
* Region URL http://metaxlr8.com:9000
* Uptime 24/7, down only for testing and updating
* See http://metafuturing.net/index.php/MetaXLR8_OpenSim
* Contact: Giulio Perhaps

== La Isla West ==
* http://24.30.54.84:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:m0rdred Veil | m0rdred Veil]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://m0rdredveil@yahoo.com m0rdred Veil]

== AUGrid-OGP Norgan ==
* http://66.197.247.222:9005 http://ogp.augrid.org:9005
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/OGP%20Plaza - OGP Plaza
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/nortopia - Nortopia
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/augrid.org%20ogp - Augrid.org OGP
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/jodyville - JodyVille
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/66.197.247.222 - Test Numerical Sim name
* All regions are on AUGrid.org and Beta Grid
* Online 24/7 - Info and custom objects with land shaped like Aust. more info http://www.augrid.org
* Contact: [[User:Norgan Torok|Norgan Torok]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://contact@augrid.org Norgan Torok (SL)/Norgan Crazys (AUGrid)]

== Berlinos ==
* 1. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos
* 2. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos2
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact: [[User:Easyfresh Auer]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://easyfresh.auer@easyfresh-auer.de Easyfresh Auer]

== Bulli's Land ==
* Region URL: http://83.247.63.174:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:Bulli Schumann]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://bulli.schumann@gmail.com Bulli Schumann]

== GCSE ==
* Region URL: http://gcse.ath.cx:9300
* 24/7 uptime (unless NAT loopback fails)
* Contact: [[User:Herfulnerful Holsworthy]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://herfulnerful@charter.net Herfulnerful Holsworthy]

== Laps Grid ==
* Experimental Sandbox on Physical and Mental Health
* GRID MIMIR OPENSIM FOR HEALTH: -loginuri http://grid.centromimir.it:8002 -loginpage http://grid.centromimir.it
* OGP: -loginuri http://grid.centromimir.it:9000 -loginpage http://grid.centromimir.it
* OGP REGIONS: Garda Lake Simulation, Caffe Freud, Centro Mimir, Suburbia
* 24/7
* Contact: [[User:Lapsus Weinstein]]

== Radioactive World ==
* Region URL: '''http://ct1aic.dyndns.org:9000'''
* Up as much as possible
* Also with 14 SIM's @ OSGRID
* Contact: [[User:Radioactive Rosca]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://radioactive.rosca@gmail.com Radioactive Rosca]

== Bloob box Island ==
* Region URL: http://87.98.134.166:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:kaly Mayako]]

== Chandra ==
* http://surya.grids.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Armon Aeon|Armon Aeon]]

== Ciuso Prime ==
*http://128.177.27.217:9000 or http://prime.ciuso.com:9000 - DNS unavailable due to hosting change; server being restored as we speak :)
*intended to be up 24*7 except for maintenance and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Sered Woollahra|Sered Woollahra]], seredsecondlife at gmail.com

== Lexania ==
* 1. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000
* 2. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000/Lexania2
* Uptime: Quite a lot
* Status: Three trees and a puddle (per region!) :)
* Contact: Why not
* Which one: SL in-world IM, to [[User: Lexa Sands|Lexa Sands]]
* E-Mail: Yes, SL in-world IM (while offline)

* (No SSL port configured at the moment)

== TicTacToe for Gridnauts ==
* This "opensim" (world) is a test for "minimum requirements". We are using a Dell Latitude D600 notebook having a Intel Centrino 2.0 Ghz, 512 Mb (RAM) and a broadband line having only 256 Kbps (for downloads)/100 Kbps (for uploads).
* 2 avatares can play the tic-tac-toe game clicking cubes, that will rotate.
* http://titactoe.ath.cx:9000/TicTacToe
* Our "opensim" is hooked to OSGrid. Region: TicTacToe.
* If you like to do a test or a demo, please contact me.
* Contact: [[User:Adamascj Aji|Americo Damasceno - Adamascj Aji]]

== Beta Technologies OpenSim (Mini-)Grid ==
* Micro-grid for [http://betatechnologies.info/ Beta Technologies].
* The first four regions are co-located in Phoenix, Arizona (ping times should be about the same as to LL's grids); the last four in Portugal, Europe. The purpose was to test running a common grid distributed among two data centres. Servers are quite different in performance: the European server has much more memory and performance, but the network access is poor. The Arizona regions are on a low-powered server which however boasts excellent connectivity. The experience of going from one to the other is quite intriguing.
* Open for now as we just test things out; some regions might be closed in the future as this Mini-Grid begins to be internally used for our own projects (mostly as a temporary sandbox before transferring content to LL's grid).
* Uptime: ought to be 99.7%, except for upgrades and the odd reconfiguration. Some sims or parcels might me closed as this is being used for some internal testing.
* No support web site for now (users are created manually)
* if you wish to add your region to our Mini-Grid for tests, and don't wish to go through the fuss of creating your set of central servers, you're welcome to do so at this stage. Just contact us!
* Available regions as follows:
** 3650/3650 - Beta Technologies - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3650/3651 - Beta Technologies1 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3650 - Beta Technologies2 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 3651/3651 - Beta Technologies3 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9003/
** 3652/3650 - EggVille - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3652/3651 - Beta Sandbox - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3652 - Terreiro do Paco - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 3652/3652 - Palacio Real - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9003/
* Contact: [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn|Gwyneth Llewelyn]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Gwyneth.Llewelyn@BetaTechnologies.Info Gwyneth Llewelyn]

[[category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Public Regions

Whump Linden — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:01:04 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Linden Lab OGP Regions */

The following OpenSim regions supporting the Open Grid protocol are available for you to teleport to once you've authenticated to the agent domain:

This is value you enter into the region URL dialog on the login screen and the World >> Teleport Region command.

== Linden Lab OGP Regions ==

* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/05917fe9-3347-72d2-cb30-b19c995af1c6: Bonifacio
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/82d570ca-bc54-6c45-3e5c-86885fc24c54: Dore
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/bebb9435-8406-7925-8aab-f9bb7b00136d: Grignano
* https://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/8656050e-a1b4-81ad-70d3-ba94971599c3: Vaak
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/720f8d50-617c-42c9-d5c3-2511a8ca2f26: Minna
* https://sim2.vaak.lindenlab.com:12043/cap/7c3488f7-91a2-9821-c50e-e27d1cbe7c7b: Miramare

== Whump Linden's OpenSim ==
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Interop%20Island
** Go here to get the key to exchange for your own Gridnaut Bear.
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Nomanisan%20Island
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Sinshan
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/The%20Bridge%20to%20Nowhere
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]

== Ugotrade ==

* http://ugotrade.net:9000
* 24/7 if it is down I will restart
* Contact: Tara5 Oh

== COM.lounge / Tao Takashi / mrtopf.de ==

* http://plonetv.de:9000
* currently offline due to awaiting new patch
* Contact: [http://mrtopf.de/blog Tao Takashi]

== BlueWall ==

* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300/BlueWall%20Isle
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300/Bay%20Side
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:BlueWall Slade | Bluewall Slade]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://BlueWall.Slade@gmail.com BlueWall Slade]

== SimlandMax ==

* Region URL: http://simland.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:creator Luna]]

== Elsewhere ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.nowherevirtual.com:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (except for maintenance)
* Contact: [[User:Emma Nowhere | Emma Nowhere ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://emma.nowhere@gmail.com Emma Nowhere]

== LJPOGP00 ==

* http://98.26.97.209:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:Julie Wasserstrom | Julie Wasserstrom]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Julie.Wasserstrom@gmail.com Julie Wasserstrom]

== Luskwood ==

* http://opengrid.luskwood.net:9000
* 24/7, Not built out yet though.
* Contact [[User:Michi Lumin | Michi Lumin]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://michi@luskwood.org Michi Lumin]

== Akina ==
* http://213.186.37.135:9000
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:EloiseJolie Capalini|EloiseJolie Capalini]]
* Email [mailto://artana34@gmail.com Artana]

== Planck and Kaku ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.vworlds.co.uk:9000
* Times Available: 0:800 23:00 UTC 24/7 when new server is ready
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== Dirac, Fermi, Bohr and Pauli ==

* Region URL: http://mainland.vworlds.co.uk:9000/
* Times Available: 24/7
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== BrackenLand ==

* http://
* Temporarily offline
* Contact: [[User:Gomez Bracken | Gomez Bracken]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gomez@temptations-club.com Gomez Bracken]

== Piper ==

* Region URL: http://primforge.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [http://primforge.com/ Torrid Luna]

== Zinnemann Grid ==

* Region URL: http://zinnemanngrid.com:9000
* [http://www.zinnemann.com/grid.asp Zinnemann Grid Webpage]
* Contact: [[User:Hans Zinnemann | Hans Zinnemann]]

== Lakewood / Ducatillon Group Project ==

* http://dgpexperimental.selfip.org:9000
* 24/7 - might be unavailable for short periods as far as we update/maintain the location
* Contact: [[User:McCoy Ducatillon | McCoy Ducatillon]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://ducatillongroup@gmail.com McCoy Ducatillon]

== Burning Life Test Open Sim ==

* Region URL: http://68.178.191.56:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (Unless Under Update)
* Contact: [[User:Vicero Lambert | Vicero Lambert ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://jakekukuk@gmail.com Vicero Lambert]

== Litesim Mainland ==

* http://lsmainland.ogs-openuser.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 - occasional issues
* Contact: [[User:Gareth Ellison | Gareth Nelson]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gareth@litesim.com Gareth Nelson]
* About 10 regions on the grid
* Can also now do TP into other random (non-OGP) grids and tested with OSGrid and central grid

== Gridrock Worlds ==
* closed for the next few months
* Blog info: http://www.in2orbit.net
* E-Mail: [mailto://whyroc@in2orbit.net whyroc Slade]

== Douggles Hangout ==
* Region URL http://club-panty.com:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact bonghit Schism_External
* Email [mailto:pantera.42069@yahoo.com]

== Pixelpark ==
* Region URL http://curious.servegame.org:9000
* online ('''updated''' to r6665 as of 10/04/08)
* Contact [[User:Bartholomew Kleiber | Bartholomew Kleiber ]]
* Email [mailto://dirk.krause@pixelpark.com Dirk Krause]

== Five Miles Out ==
* Region URL http://taurus.fivemile.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime 1 Gbps
* Contact [[User:Jim Kupferberg | Jim Kupferberg ]]
* Email [mailto:info@fivemile.net Jim Kupferberg]

== Whichway From Here ==
* Region URL http://ae6vk.harpsichordyet.com:9000
* 09:00-22:00 SLT, but down at my whim.
* Contact [[User:Whichway Janus | Whichway Janus ]]
* Email [mailto:Whichway.Janus@Yahoo.Com Whichway Janus]

== Dahlia Island ==
* Region URL http://thnk1.dyndns.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Dahlia Trimble | Dahlia Trimble]]
* Email [mailto:dahliaTrimble@gmail.com Dahlia Trimble]

== 3Di OGP Test ==
* Region URL http://210.188.235.138:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Kish Kas | Kish Kas]]

== Bit Island ==
* Region URL http://mark.bitlife.jp:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact [[User:Bit2zero Planer | Bit2zero Planer]]

== metaXLR8 ==
* Region URL http://metaxlr8.com:9000
* Uptime 24/7, down only for testing and updating
* See http://metafuturing.net/index.php/MetaXLR8_OpenSim
* Contact: Giulio Perhaps

== La Isla West ==
* http://24.30.54.84:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:m0rdred Veil | m0rdred Veil]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://m0rdredveil@yahoo.com m0rdred Veil]

== AUGrid-OGP Norgan ==
* http://66.197.247.222:9005 http://ogp.augrid.org:9005
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/OGP%20Plaza - OGP Plaza
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/nortopia - Nortopia
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/augrid.org%20ogp - Augrid.org OGP
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/jodyville - JodyVille
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/66.197.247.222 - Test Numerical Sim name
* All regions are on AUGrid.org and Beta Grid
* Online 24/7 - Info and custom objects with land shaped like Aust. more info http://www.augrid.org
* Contact: [[User:Norgan Torok|Norgan Torok]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://contact@augrid.org Norgan Torok (SL)/Norgan Crazys (AUGrid)]

== Berlinos ==
* 1. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos
* 2. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos2
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact: [[User:Easyfresh Auer]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://easyfresh.auer@easyfresh-auer.de Easyfresh Auer]

== Bulli's Land ==
* Region URL: http://83.247.63.174:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:Bulli Schumann]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://bulli.schumann@gmail.com Bulli Schumann]

== GCSE ==
* Region URL: http://gcse.ath.cx:9300
* 24/7 uptime (unless NAT loopback fails)
* Contact: [[User:Herfulnerful Holsworthy]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://herfulnerful@charter.net Herfulnerful Holsworthy]

== Laps Grid ==
* Experimental Sandbox on Physical and Mental Health
* GRID MIMIR OPENSIM FOR HEALTH: -loginuri http://grid.centromimir.it:8002 -loginpage http://grid.centromimir.it
* OGP: -loginuri http://grid.centromimir.it:9000 -loginpage http://grid.centromimir.it
* OGP REGIONS: Garda Lake Simulation, Caffe Freud, Centro Mimir, Suburbia
* 24/7
* Contact: [[User:Lapsus Weinstein]]

== Radioactive World ==
* Region URL: '''http://ct1aic.dyndns.org:9000'''
* Up as much as possible
* Also with 14 SIM's @ OSGRID
* Contact: [[User:Radioactive Rosca]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://radioactive.rosca@gmail.com Radioactive Rosca]

== Bloob box Island ==
* Region URL: http://87.98.134.166:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:kaly Mayako]]

== Chandra ==
* http://surya.grids.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Armon Aeon|Armon Aeon]]

== Ciuso Prime ==
*http://128.177.27.217:9000 or http://prime.ciuso.com:9000 - DNS unavailable due to hosting change; server being restored as we speak :)
*intended to be up 24*7 except for maintenance and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Sered Woollahra|Sered Woollahra]], seredsecondlife at gmail.com

== Lexania ==
* 1. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000
* 2. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000/Lexania2
* Uptime: Quite a lot
* Status: Three trees and a puddle (per region!) :)
* Contact: Why not
* Which one: SL in-world IM, to [[User: Lexa Sands|Lexa Sands]]
* E-Mail: Yes, SL in-world IM (while offline)

* (No SSL port configured at the moment)

== TicTacToe for Gridnauts ==
* This "opensim" (world) is a test for "minimum requirements". We are using a Dell Latitude D600 notebook having a Intel Centrino 2.0 Ghz, 512 Mb (RAM) and a broadband line having only 256 Kbps (for downloads)/100 Kbps (for uploads).
* 2 avatares can play the tic-tac-toe game clicking cubes, that will rotate.
* http://titactoe.ath.cx:9000/TicTacToe
* Our "opensim" is hooked to OSGrid. Region: TicTacToe.
* If you like to do a test or a demo, please contact me.
* Contact: [[User:Adamascj Aji|Americo Damasceno - Adamascj Aji]]

== Beta Technologies OpenSim (Mini-)Grid ==
* Micro-grid for [http://betatechnologies.info/ Beta Technologies].
* The first four regions are co-located in Phoenix, Arizona (ping times should be about the same as to LL's grids); the last four in Portugal, Europe. The purpose was to test running a common grid distributed among two data centres. Servers are quite different in performance: the European server has much more memory and performance, but the network access is poor. The Arizona regions are on a low-powered server which however boasts excellent connectivity. The experience of going from one to the other is quite intriguing.
* Open for now as we just test things out; some regions might be closed in the future as this Mini-Grid begins to be internally used for our own projects (mostly as a temporary sandbox before transferring content to LL's grid).
* Uptime: ought to be 99.7%, except for upgrades and the odd reconfiguration. Some sims or parcels might me closed as this is being used for some internal testing.
* No support web site for now (users are created manually)
* if you wish to add your region to our Mini-Grid for tests, and don't wish to go through the fuss of creating your set of central servers, you're welcome to do so at this stage. Just contact us!
* Available regions as follows:
** 3650/3650 - Beta Technologies - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3650/3651 - Beta Technologies1 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3650 - Beta Technologies2 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 3651/3651 - Beta Technologies3 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9003/
** 3652/3650 - EggVille - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3652/3651 - Beta Sandbox - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3652 - Terreiro do Paco - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 3652/3652 - Palacio Real - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9003/
* Contact: [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn|Gwyneth Llewelyn]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Gwyneth.Llewelyn@BetaTechnologies.Info Gwyneth Llewelyn]

[[category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

User:Zero Linden/Office Hours/2008 October 28

Whump Linden — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:17:52 GMT

Whump Linden: New page: Infinity Linden hosted today office hours. * [12:51] Zha Ewry: is the lucky Infinity, guest hosting * [12:51] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity L...

[[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]] hosted today office hours.

* [12:51] [[User:Zha Ewry|Zha Ewry]]: is the lucky Infinity, guest hosting
* [12:51] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: yup
* [12:51] [[User:Majong45Kikko Diavolo|Majong45Kikko Diavolo]]: ciao
* [12:51] [[User:Majong45Kikko Diavolo|Majong45Kikko Diavolo]]: hello
* [12:51] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: hola
* [12:52] [[User:Majong45Kikko Diavolo|Majong45Kikko Diavolo]]: ciao
* [12:54] [[User:Object: changedsim|Object: changedsim]]:
* [12:54] [[User:Object: simmap|Object: simmap]]:
* [12:56] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: hey Whump
* [12:56] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Pardon me while stumble about.
* [12:57] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: running over things that haven't rezzed yet.
* [12:57] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: hmm... do you suppose anyone notice the blog posting on open space sim changes?
* [12:57] [[User:gift Asp|gift Asp]]: Hey
* [12:57] [[User:Zha Ewry|Zha Ewry]]: Nah. I can't see any evidence of that ;-)
* [12:57] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: okay... i should probably start of by saying
* [12:58] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: that i'm happy to see people here with strong opinions about the recent open space changes
* [12:58] [[User:Zha Ewry|Zha Ewry]]: counts five tags, one flag, and 10.000 plurks
* [12:58] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: it means that there's still a dialog going on
* [12:58] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: yup
* [12:58] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: as judged by the comments at [http://forums.secondlife.com/forumdisplay.php?f=354]
* [12:58] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: it's clear that lotsa people have a lot of strong opinions
* [12:58] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: Halllooooo
* [12:59] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: awesum burning bush, btw
* [12:59] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: and we missed the Robin Linden hour
* [12:59] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: did Robin go to her hour?
* [12:59] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: and talk about it?
* [12:59] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: for what it's worth... i missed Robin's Hoffice Ours as well
* [12:59] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: so i'm not sure who's said what
* [12:59] [[User:Zha Ewry|Zha Ewry]]: Jensen, this is a text only office hour, and your mike is open
* [13:00] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: I sorry..
* [13:00] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: I'm Sorry!
* [13:00] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: but also... lemme warn you... i'm a technical resource at Linden...
* [13:01] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: just ametaphor
* [13:01] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: so i can't say anything authoritative about the recent free space changes
* [13:01] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: We need Technical Solutions not monetary ones
* [13:01] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: Infinity we need teh decisoon makers
* [13:01] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: and yes techn resources too
* [13:01] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: ah then you will probably be able to clear up questions about apropriat usage for openspaces
* [13:01] [[User:Tia Mokeev|Tia Mokeev]]: Deli ci sono sono qui davanti a te
* [13:01] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: simple just have a limit set on people allowed on the sims at any one time
* [13:01] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]: 'Afternoon
* [13:01] [[User:Barb Carson|Barb Carson]]: its insulting beyond believe forANYONE in LL to try to ram down our throats that the OS are being used in ways not intended/condoned
* [13:02] [[User:stormi Capalini|stormi Capalini]]: Hello everyone
* [13:02] [[User:Barb Carson|Barb Carson]]: belief
* [13:02] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: hey
* [13:02] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: well... let's get started... Agenda Items?
* [13:02] [[User:gift Asp|gift Asp]]: wb
* [13:02] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: lol
* [13:02] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Can you say why LL raised the prims on them ?
* [13:02] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: thx
* [13:02] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Alliez.. nope.. .that's beyond my pay grade
* [13:03] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: If so unstable was not to swift to do
* [13:03] [[User:Barb Carson|Barb Carson]]: this is a waste of time isnt it?
* [13:03] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: ok
* [13:03] [[User:Zha Ewry|Zha Ewry]]: We were tralking about the way Inventory holds asset permisinons, not assets this morning, which, proved interesting to chew on
* [13:03] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: yeah thats my confusion also how is 50$ going to fix this percieved problem
* [13:03] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: i love my OS
* [13:03] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Barb... this is usually a place for technical discussinos
* [13:03] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: sell it cheap get us hooked then up the tiers seems like a dirty practisce to me
* [13:03] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: statistical data on open space usage... max frame time before it affects others would be a help
* [13:03] [[User:SexyAnn Ashley|SexyAnn Ashley]]: shouts: I have a Group Open about the OS and the Prices ect with Patch and Spike in the Group as Well if anyone wants to Join
* [13:03] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: i dont have a club
* [13:03] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: just make tsuff
* [13:03] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: why is the openspace Mos Ansley have 1400 script running even tho it is openspace? and its owned by linden lab
* [13:03] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: Zero will tell us the technical changes that LL will do that requires the extra money ?
* [13:03] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: its already a recession economy, and u have increased prices to 125$ for trees and water ?
* [13:03] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: and it often wandered into the realm of the political 'cause Zero's one of the more senior lindens
* [13:04] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Limit avatars amount per sim to 20 or even less. / Limit script load / Warn those who are abusing OS sims.
* [13:04] [[User:Barb Carson|Barb Carson]]: @infinity i was referring to all the ones here obviously desiring to talk about the os fiasco
* [13:04] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: but a wast of time? nah..
* [13:04] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: well it shud be a democracy
* [13:04] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I have pics of that there were sent to me if anyone wants them
* [13:04] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: statistical data on open space usage... max frame time before it affects others would be a help
* [13:04] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: mine runs like a dream
* [13:04] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: yeah... i fear i have no great words of wisdom regardin the OS issue
* [13:04] [[User:Barb Carson|Barb Carson]]: yes.....again...waste of time no?
* [13:04] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: ive always felt that the move to OS was a great move and allowed more creativity
* [13:04] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: i dont have lag at my sims
* [13:04] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: ahh
* [13:04] [[User:stormi Capalini|stormi Capalini]]: Is there someone we can speak to that does please?
* [13:05] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: other than to state the obvious... lotsa peeps have strong opinions
* [13:05] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Well why are we having a meeting if no one can speak
* [13:05] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: o sorry
* [13:05] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: now it seems like exploitation
* [13:05] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: didnt know you where their
* [13:05] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: rezzing - blind - sorry for bumping
* [13:05] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: ahhh
* [13:05] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: sorry
* [13:05] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: because this isn't a meeting for the open space policy
* [13:05] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: it's a meeting to discuss technical interop issues
* [13:05] [[User:stormi Capalini|stormi Capalini]]: what is it on please?
* [13:05] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Why didn't LL forsee that users would try to get every ounce of creativity, use, and value from openspaces? Users have already done that with every single tool and feature in SL. Did they completely overlook the basic nature of SL?
* [13:05] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: well there isnt going to have one anyways
* [13:05] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: heh
* [13:05] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: still no Zero?
* [13:05] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: guys relax
* [13:05] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I didnt realize that Infinity if I had I would not be here
* [13:05] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: the only policy affecting your users right now is the openspace issue, face up to it
* [13:05] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: yup. Zero's out for a few weeks
* [13:06] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: oh
* [13:06] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @River... i think some people may have a different view on that
* [13:06] [[User:Barb Carson|Barb Carson]]: im going to go watch a sarah palin interview...will get more interesting answers
* [13:06] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: sorry its hard to keep up with chat if i missed you say it
* [13:06] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: not me i am with river
* [13:06] [[User:stormi Capalini|stormi Capalini]]: is there anyway we estate owners can have meetings with a linden(s)?
* [13:06] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: i see the sign now
* [13:06] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: well tell it to the 364 who have voted on the Jira
* [13:07] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: and the 80 who are protesting on nautilus
* [13:07] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: if you beleive the Open space sim issue is trivia and not of value , i think you need to refocus
* [13:07] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: got the link fem i will make 365
* [13:07] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: almost 500 voters
* [13:07] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: 496 voters now
* [13:07] [[User:Raff Magic|Raff Magic]]: Hello!
* [13:07] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: there are literaryly hundreds of avi complaining about the unfair price hike
* [13:07] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I have to agree with River also
* [13:07] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: it affects us all
* [13:07] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: not just a few technical users
* [13:07] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: hmm... okay... sure... lets chat about the open space thing then
* [13:07] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: sure
* [13:08] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: but... keep in mind...
* [13:08] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: lol
* [13:08] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: :D
* [13:08] [[User:stormi Capalini|stormi Capalini]]: thank you
* [13:08] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: i'm not the policy maker in charge
* [13:08] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: but
* [13:08] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: all sims in SL should be open space i think
* [13:08] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: you look hawt teravus
* [13:08] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: The open space thing has been sold to us as a needed uncrease in costs to cover engineering shortfalls
* [13:08] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: with this kind of resident turnout
* [13:08] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: seems you are telling us the open spaces have been abused
* [13:08] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Is it hard to limit avatars amount to 20? and limit script usage?
* [13:08] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: i'm thinking i would be seriously daft to ignore the issue
* [13:08] [[User:SexyAnn Ashley|SexyAnn Ashley]]: Comment anyone on this
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* Solve this Problem
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* 1) Offer Free Converssion to Full Sims from 4 Open Sims
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* 2) Offer a refund for those that have 3 or less
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* 3) Offer Open sims with less fuctionality for same Cost
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* 4) Offer Open Sims With better fuctionality at New Cost so they are worth the New cost
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* 5) take them off the Market completely ( Open Sims )
* [13:08] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: sorry rush I lost when sl logged me out again for the umpteenth time today
* [13:08] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: not to mention the grid-wide protests, and forum post with 1200+ comments on the openspace issue
* [13:08] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: copybot is bad
* [13:09] [[User:Arcadia Jonson|Arcadia Jonson]]: OMG...I have no idea whats going on...!!!!
* [13:09] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: hmm.. I appear to be on fire.
* [13:09] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: i second that lol
* [13:09] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: 3) What does less functionality means?
* [13:09] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Arcadia, open sime prices are being raised 66% from 1st Jan
* [13:09] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: I think that affects us all
* [13:09] [[User:Arcadia Jonson|Arcadia Jonson]]: Anarchy in Second Life....
* [13:09] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: and its linden driven
* [13:09] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: all right! practical suggestions... SexyAnn.. have you posted these on the forumsas well?
* [13:09] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: frame time limiters
* [13:10] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: Mos Ainsley (169, 152, 103) is by itself abused by the lindens i have evidence of that!
* [13:10] [[User:SexyAnn Ashley|SexyAnn Ashley]]: lol I put them all types of places
* [13:10] [[User:Arcadia Jonson|Arcadia Jonson]]: I'm gonna abandon my land soon anyways....economy sucks and SL is a waste of money for me...to be honest....
* [13:10] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: i checked forums over1000 posts and 1 linden reply
* [13:10] [[User:Tuhimata Homewood|Tuhimata Homewood]]: LL JUST WANT MORE MONEY
* [13:10] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: it's all about the frame time
* [13:10] [[User:SexyAnn Ashley|SexyAnn Ashley]]: I created a Group of estate Owners on this Subject
* [13:10] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: dont abandon give it away
* [13:10] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Impossible to contact lindens trough blogs.
* [13:10] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: i jsut started my business and now this
* [13:10] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: find a nice person to give it to
* [13:10] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: Infinity I doubt very much if any linden is going to be allowed to discuss anything other than the open space issuee until it is resolved
* [13:10] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: ok why did LL increase prims is sims so unstabe?
* [13:10] [[User:Arcadia Jonson|Arcadia Jonson]]: I tried to sell for L! but no one bought it....
* [13:10] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Practical suggestion is to completely backtrack on this issue. After this, users won't tolerate a "lesser" draconian measure.
* [13:10] [[User:Arcadia Jonson|Arcadia Jonson]]: sorry...ONE...L1....
* [13:10] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: it will cost you to give it away... payor to payor transfers come with a charge
* [13:11] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: okay... more practical suggestions... (i'm making a list)
* [13:11] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: 100usd for 1 to 4
* [13:11] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: oh yea
* [13:11] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: at the very least offer free conversions for a certain time frame
* [13:11] [[User:stormi Capalini|stormi Capalini]]: why not grandfather in what open spaces that have sold already?
* [13:11] [[User:SexyAnn Ashley|SexyAnn Ashley]]: Please People Im me if you would like to be added to the Group
* [13:11] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: leave it as it is we deserve what we signed up for and paid in good faith
* [13:12] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: price is okay till around 90$
* [13:12] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: and will definitely make sure the people up my management chain get the list of suggestinos and the transcript of this meeting.
* [13:12] [[User:MystiTool HUD|MystiTool HUD]]: 1.0.23 [script:MEAO core 2008-05-25a]: Script run-time error
* [13:12] [[User:MystiTool HUD|MystiTool HUD]]: 1.0.23 [script:MEAO core 2008-05-25a]: Stack-Heap Collision
* [13:12] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: so
* [13:12] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: anything more is bad
* [13:12] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: wow lag
* [13:12] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: its not free conversion s we want, thats a greedy approach, we need to be straight on this, Bait and Switch on prices of open sims is against the social code for everyone
* [13:12] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: and dont force those who have taken the odd two just for their own living space to have to make it up to 4
* [13:12] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: If the issue is REALLY resource use, then impliment server-side measures to limit scripts and maximum avatars on an openspace. However, I DO NOT think that is the real issue here. I believe the issue is that openspaces have become so popular that they have devalued mainland hugely, which is the REAL reason for this policy
* [13:12] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: /nods
* [13:12] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: it is more about nautilus like spacs
* [13:12] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: in which case, the "practical solution" is to improve mainland significantly, instead of devaluing another product to make it more attractive.
* [13:12] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: ur selling it for 105000 for 1024sqm
* [13:12] [[User:Ayesha Lytton|Ayesha Lytton]]: The problem is that people want space and PRIVACY, not mainlandd
* [13:13] [[User:stormi Capalini|stormi Capalini]]: yes
* [13:13] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: frankly linden has become greedy
* [13:13] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Look around you , these people are really very upset at the Linden Tactic of selling low only to raise the prices when sold.
* [13:13] [[User:Xavier Irwin|Xavier Irwin]]: If your making a list Infinity.. I just have one question.... How can a 67% price increase be justified in the current economic climate... and how can the community not see it as anything other than profit making on LL part. Thank you.
* [13:13] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: agree aminon
* [13:13] [[User:Ayesha Lytton|Ayesha Lytton]]: Mainland can never provide nature and beauty like an OS sim can
* [13:13] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: u know it unethical ?
* [13:13] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Aminom.. thx... i think we have some existing protections... clearly you're talking about more server-mediated restrictions to make it harder for OS sims to get misused
* [13:13] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: really at the end of the day linden lab opening nautilus on a user generated platfrom can be seen as further devaluing the content creator market
* [13:13] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: mainland dont even have EO rights
* [13:13] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Infinity, the Lindens are applying a process to the users that is uncalled for, badly described and morally wrong.
* [13:13] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: We helped LL grow to what it has become and why do we feel like he have again been blindsided
* [13:13] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: and Linden labs is being accused of Bait and Switch
* [13:13] [[User:Xavier Irwin|Xavier Irwin]]: Another question... if the policy was to NOT use openspaces for this use.... then why did they not monitor it far more effectively than has been done. Thank you.
* [13:14] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: by many people
* [13:14] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: Practical solution 1 : price hike with grandfathering and proper limits on usage of the openspaces (ie frame time limiters 4.5ms is probably a good target)
* [13:14] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Infinity: that would be the most obvious solution, if resource use were the actual problem.
* [13:14] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: mine dont ever go that high
* [13:14] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: practical solution 2: no price hike with limiters
* [13:14] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Infinity, we ask you make representation to the Mark Linden to stop this price rise and negotiate a solution before implementing it
* [13:14] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: i only have 50 to 100 people a week how can that be causing you a problem
* [13:14] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: okay... i've heard a couple people talk about grandfathering
* [13:14] [[User:Xavier Irwin|Xavier Irwin]]: Practical solution: Do not increase by 67%
* [13:14] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: users actually pay for hardware
* [13:14] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: prims need to be spead out over a larger area and opensims are perfect for that.. by having less object within draw range there should be less impact on servers
* [13:14] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: and LL said some landowners not good with them, well go after them
* [13:14] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: We are your customers, dont care what you think, without us there is No Linden labs
* [13:14] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: absolutiely
* [13:14] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: and Baronness.. you're talking about technical sim-based limiters?
* [13:14] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: right/
* [13:14] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I dont go after all renters if one is bad
* [13:14] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: ?
* [13:14] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: yes
* [13:15] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Limiters / Grandfathering
* [13:15] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: i get enough traffic to cover tier most of the day my sim is empty (OS) so how am i hogging resources?
* [13:15] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: i have 10-15 people on opensim even those re not regular
* [13:15] [[User:*KaS* Waist|*KaS* Waist]]: Corset ( stomach ): Imaze's waist is freed from its tight encasement.
* [13:15] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: however, I disagree with you framing it as "misuse." SL Users have always "misused" features to get every ounce of creativity and value from them. That's what I do with sculpts. That's what people do with megaprims. And so on.
* [13:15] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: ban the abusers
* [13:15] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: agreed
* [13:15] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: warn and ban
* [13:15] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: how is it misuse
* [13:15] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: yes
* [13:15] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: dont allow clubs or shops
* [13:15] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: you gave people the extra prims
* [13:15] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: Infinity... I think many landowners are concerned that his maneuver is only the tip of the iceberg....
* [13:15] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: make a comprehensive list of light use
* [13:15] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: allow houses
* [13:15] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: having too many people in a square is abusive
* [13:15] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: Aminom... i didn't say you wre misusing things...
* [13:15] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: you aloowed them to buy 1 at a time
* [13:16] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Infinity, you can promote and wrap it in anywords you like, the bottom line is the Linden Labs have upset the very people that pay your wages, they are your customers and deserve being treated like adults, not idiots
* [13:16] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: opensims shoudl be residential
* [13:16] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: it does not say that it is considered misuse when we buy open space sims
* [13:16] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: you should have to pay more to have more people in your square
* [13:16] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: the total usage can be measured by frame time... a full sim has 22ms before lag sets in.. 1/4 of that is 5.5 ms and 4.5 ms would be reasonable considering the extra overhead involved
* [13:16] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: allowl healthy competition
* [13:16] [[User:Arcadia Jonson|Arcadia Jonson]]: Screw this chaos......I'm gonna go play WoW...!!!!!
* [13:16] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: --> Limiters / Grandfathering / Warn abusers / Ban camp bots.
* [13:16] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: and you allowed them to put them anywhere on the grid
* [13:16] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: it just says you wont support performance issues
* [13:16] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: openspace sims are intended to support a "light" load
* [13:16] [[User:Ayesha Lytton|Ayesha Lytton]]: Yes, I just bought 2 $195/month tier sims, now I'm afraid they'll get increased too
* [13:16] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: you implied to people they could do what they wanted
* [13:16] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: definelight load
* [13:16] [[User:Favian Tigerpaw|Favian Tigerpaw]]: define light load please...
* [13:16] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I had a guy with bots, he is history
* [13:16] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Ok.. isnt this supposed to be a technical forum.. can we at least complain and offer / get technical solutions here?
* [13:16] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: Then why give them 3750 prims?
* [13:16] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: so why is there 2 linden public work sims fully built ?
* [13:16] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: The fact that there wasn't any actual rules about openspaces, but rather "suggestions" for light use (with statements that said no support would be given for non-light-use openspaces) shows that there is no abuse, as no rules were broken.
* [13:16] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: do a to the point list
* [13:17] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Infinity , No other business would survive this mindless price increase, especially at a time of rescession, its called price gouging and you are flying against the policy of the government with what you are doing
* [13:17] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: my opensims run at 1.8-3 ms in full use
* [13:17] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: a guide line is not a rule
* [13:17] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: scroll up... i didn't acuse anyone of "abusing their sim" or even violating the ToS
* [13:17] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: light use is not a rule
* [13:17] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: LLis welcome to visit any of mine
* [13:17] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: Jack did
* [13:17] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: just linit script usage and Agents
* [13:17] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: well peope do abuse it for clubs and shops
* [13:17] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: ok what do you consider low load
* [13:17] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we eject people lwho do that
* [13:17] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: its in the blog
* [13:17] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: anything beyond the 5.5 frame time would come off of someone elses sim at this point... a limiter would stop that
* [13:17] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: specifically said someone here was abusing the ToS?
* [13:17] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: it was said in the blog
* [13:17] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: are you sure?
* [13:18] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: you didn't infinity. But it is LL policy that openspace "abuse" by a nebulous group of "resource abusers" caused the current policy action
* [13:18] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: about SOME owners
* [13:18] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: It is time for you to understand, we are the addicted ones, we give you feedback and support every day and we put up with a lot of crap from Linden Labs, but this price hike at this time is the most incredible mistake you have mnade since you stopped gambloiing
* [13:18] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: Our OS sims are sold for single residential use... why are we being penalized?
* [13:18] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: abusing the sims
* [13:18] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: i have not been on 1 open sim ..residential.....that i felt was to laggy
* [13:18] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: There is a lot more to this
* [13:18] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: u shud ban companies who sell openspace sims are residentiual then
* [13:18] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: And we deserve to know what it is
* [13:19] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: my sim is lag free
* [13:19] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Look around you Infinitym do you think we are here for fun, its a major deal you guys have done and its hurting a great many users
* [13:19] [[User:Twistit Saiman|Twistit Saiman]]: *nods* agreed
* [13:19] [[User:Twistit Saiman|Twistit Saiman]]: Should have thought twice before releasing them, this is just non sense.
* [13:19] [[User:Christo Larsen|Christo Larsen]]: Hello all, thank you Infinity for listening to our concerns....
* [13:19] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: hehe.. i sell residential use open sims... they rarely go beyond 3ms frame time... i think the clubs go farther to abuse these things
* [13:19] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: the prices on openspace sims should be based on usage instead
* [13:19] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: River... i don't doubt your resolve.. .or your intentions
* [13:19] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: so if you exceed the happy low level dirt farm ll wants you to have there then you pay a penalty
* [13:20] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: i understand you've some very clear feelings about this
* [13:20] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: clubs are not for Os sims
* [13:20] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: You reduced their price, increased their prim count and allowed them to be placed anywhere and to be bought siingly, thats was an invitation, now you hike the price, that is called Fraud
* [13:20] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: yes, thank you Infinity for hearing our concerns. Let me make it clear that I don't blame you for this- but rather the company you work for.
* [13:20] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we eject peole who buy land for that
* [13:20] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: everyone is a criminal
* [13:20] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: all right... the vibe i'm getting here is
* [13:20] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: back
* [13:20] [[User:Alliez's translator|Alliez's translator]]: espalda
* [13:20] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: "some folks abused OpenSpace Sims"
* [13:20] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: yeah exactly, why would anyone have a disconected free floating os sim
* [13:20] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: "so we're all gonna get punished"
* [13:20] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Can we discuss some questions about how Linden labs intends to monitor openspaces.. do you use virtual machines yet? if so are you using VMware?.. if youre not.. do you have any technically simple ways to "contain" bad voids?
* [13:20] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: so they could have some trees?
* [13:20] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: lol
* [13:20] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: why is there no limit set in your software then this way there wont be abuse at all
* [13:20] [[User:Danica Palmer|Danica Palmer]]: a lot of people are walking away from there open space sims and are leaving game...your going to see a lot more doing this..there will be other games and then what will happen tsecond life...the people are what make sl...if we leave what then
* [13:21] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: how can you abuse something
* [13:21] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: on a purely political stage this is totally outrageous... but i thought we were looking for practical solutions
* [13:21] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: is that a fair definition of the zeitgiest?
* [13:21] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: Os sims shud be capped for scripts
* [13:21] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: so punish the abusers not everyone
* [13:21] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: and avatars
* [13:21] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: Lindens opened them up for people to do more
* [13:21] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: we want free stuff
* [13:21] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: then accuse people of abusing them
* [13:21] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: how abused ?
* [13:21] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we did not
* [13:21] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we just rent them to peole looking for houses
* [13:21] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: No one abused anything Infinity, they are ewncouraged for foree use or you would not have sold them in the way you do. You are directly to blame, and by you I mean Lindens
* [13:21] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: and we always keep 30% prims free
* [13:21] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: yes you dont have oversight then you blame people for doing what they are allowed to do
* [13:22] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: And just to throw in my 2 cents.. my personal collection of voids will close 1Jan.. and I believe the region i'm in will lose about 30 more
* [13:22] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: and us sim owners get caught in the middle
* [13:22] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: it's not right to make people pay for air
* [13:22] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: the only abuse going on is estate owners being shafted with more price rises
* [13:22] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: a lot of people use SL as a hobby and 300per month is just too much for entertainment, at the same time nobody wants mainland, not because of competition, but because its for the most part a crummy experience
* [13:22] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: LL had no clear rules about open spaces and how they should be used.. All there was is a warning that there would be no support for open spaces and they should be used for basic things
* [13:22] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Agrees with Femina, Pass the lube
* [13:22] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: i spent 600Us$ this month
* [13:22] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: I'd frame it as "LL, by not providing proper resource management for openspace use (limiting scripts, occupancy etc), they created a problem when they restructured how openspaces work. These problems were made much worse by their policy of increasing prim use on openspaces- which basically says, "Feel free to use these sims to a much more fuller extent"
* [13:22] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: until Jack can tell us exactly what constitutes an abuse we are tied.
* [13:22] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we are serious users here
* [13:22] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: i mean there was nothing saying what people cant do
* [13:22] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: u can check our transactions history
* [13:23] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: my mom is mad about this i will tell you that and in the end she will be really angry and i think i feel ill
* [13:23] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I have many sims ck and see what I pay per year
* [13:23] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: im stuck with 16 sims thaT I CANT SELL and cant rent so im out $4,000 US Dollars
* [13:23] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: a sim costs about US$295/mth in tier.
* [13:23] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: okay... and the suggestion is.. develop technical limits to prevent open space sims from being "abused"
* [13:23] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Yes.
* [13:23] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: a german chap has just given up 200 sims, that a lot of money to say goodbye too
* [13:23] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: instead of a price hike
* [13:24] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: and publish clear guidance for what constitutes "abuse"
* [13:24] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: only cost recovery for void owners is to combine them in to full sims and sell them
* [13:24] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: No Infinity first you have to define exactly what ABUSE is
* [13:24] [[User:Ayesha Lytton|Ayesha Lytton]]: People want nature, they want beauty...the spaces that are being destroyed in RL also by greedy companies. Personally I got my first sim because I wanted to create a beautiful beach, without floating plywood boxes and gaudy sex clubs next door
* [13:24] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: US$5900 a month.
* [13:24] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: There are ways to solve it with smarter coding.
* [13:24] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: You need to tell the users what is and what is not acceptable, as yet, there is no guidance
* [13:24] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: and not bigger servers wich implies more money
* [13:24] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: my owner ius thiking of leaving
* [13:24] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: hang on, I got my numbers wrong woozl!
* [13:24] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: i would say that abuse is when your open sim uses up the processing power of another one
* [13:24] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: that wont do any good infinity unless you all are willing to rollback the prices
* [13:24] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: she invested 20k Us$ here
* [13:24] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: arbitrarily raising everyone's rent is mean
* [13:24] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: no philip I have only two voids
* [13:24] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: US$3540 a year per sim in tier.
* [13:24] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: hmm... River... the problem with defining "precisely" what abuse is
* [13:24] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Infinity: yes, if resource use is actually the root issue behind LL's motivation.
* [13:24] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: right now under the new terms OS sims are worthless
* [13:24] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: createing changes like that could impact on many users happily paying you tier
* [13:24] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: one my owner lives on and one i live on
* [13:24] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: yes leave the openspace sims then make another inbetween size sim with more prims
* [13:24] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: over 200K a year
* [13:25] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: you do not want to lose those that make use of a sim responsibly
* [13:25] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: establish Software limits for openspace and dontraise the prices thats a fair resolution
* [13:25] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: why should I be forced to buy 2 more
* [13:25] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: if you define a limit that is 'abusive', people will always try to fly barely under that limit.
* [13:25] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: if my neighbor abuses the rules so now i have to pay
* [13:25] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: is that it's hard to predict every possible way that a system can be gamed
* [13:25] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: it is the human nature.
* [13:25] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: give us 100$ islands infinity
* [13:25] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: everyone is human
* [13:25] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: dont make us pay higher fee for your own mistake
* [13:25] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we are not saints
* [13:25] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: this is all because of ibm
* [13:25] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Hell, even us Woozls do it all the time.
* [13:25] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Oh where does that come from?
* [13:25] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: IBM gave u class 6 servers
* [13:25] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Dont talk about Gaming Infinity, we simply need you all to stop this price hike and start talking to user to define what is acceptable
* [13:25] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: why get the cost from us
* [13:25] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: but this word abuse is rediculous, how can you abuse a sim lol
* [13:26] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: yes but a no limit system which can "borrow" from it's neighbours resources is being abused
* [13:26] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Oh, it can be done.
* [13:26] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: lots of recursive ops, in a box.
* [13:26] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we didnt invited IBM ?
* [13:26] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: its like treating your user base like naughty school children
* [13:26] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: we are the one that drive the economy in SL why backstabing us
* [13:26] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: By framing the issue as being about resource abuse, LL comes off as disingenuous as they allow other forms of heavy resource usage in normal sims- for example, allowing entire private sims nearly filled with traffic-sucking bots.
* [13:26] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: yeah... i was hoping to use the term "misuse" or "use in a manner not completely consistent with the terms of service."
* [13:26] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: frankily the resource usage issue is a false argument. There is no issue from Lindens point of few because the people suffering the lag are the residents not the system. Now you have made it worse because im shutting down my 16 sims and the residents are out in the cold
* [13:26] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: The biggest issue is that since 2003, SL's userbase has tended to have a culture that encourages risk-approachment.
* [13:26] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: copybot is responsible for all of this
* [13:26] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: and using silly words to misinform and destract from the real issue which is you want to make more money
* [13:26] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: because patnab it looks like they dont want us anymore
* [13:26] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: simple as
* [13:26] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: keep piling on the bricks until the tower comes crashing down.
* [13:26] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: wow i cannot read fastenough
* [13:27] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: deadpans.
* [13:27] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: from 5000 to 22000 sims worth
* [13:27] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: u have to define light use Infinity
* [13:27] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: if were not here the lab will close then.
* [13:27] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: Zero is lucky to not have to do this Linden Office hour :)
* [13:27] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: GREAT MY OWNDER JUST CLSOED HER BUSINESS
* [13:27] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: SHE KNOWS 23 SIMS
* [13:27] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: OWNS*
* [13:27] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Why have no owners been informed you are abusing the sims?
* [13:27] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: We know that SecondLife is an Income Generation Vehicle for the Linden Shareholders. THis policy you are implementing will detroy a significant portion of your income
* [13:27] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Duke... respectfully... yes.. resource usage _IS_ a concern
* [13:28] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: People people, what's with all this "I'll stab me own throat" business?
* [13:28] [[User:Kristina Simon|Kristina Simon]]: hi jensen.. and the next one is going to do this too.. and i own more then 24
* [13:28] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: you should have told us about this before the day you decided to do it
* [13:28] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: then limit it !!
* [13:28] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: i would like to offer that misuse is any use that causes your sim to consistantly, for any length of time, borrow resources from another sim on the same CPU
* [13:28] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Alliez... sadly... we do perform software testing... some code does get injured in the QA process
* [13:28] [[User:Layla Fiertze|Layla Fiertze]]: it seems simple enough to set REASONABLE limits and price them REASONABLY for what the limits are how hard is that to do?
* [13:28] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: i wont bepaying the next tier when its due
* [13:28] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: you cant expect a resident to limit his action when they know nothing about usage of sim !
* [13:28] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Your Policy Infinity ( Mr Linden) is creating a lot of negative press, something not good for you
* [13:28] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: notice of a possible change in the rent is always done in the real world
* [13:28] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: onerous financial charges are in brach statutory implied terms of contract at least under EU law
* [13:29] [[User:Danica Palmer|Danica Palmer]]: all second life will have left are the free members, then see how you will do
* [13:29] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: breach*
* [13:29] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: LL came to me ans asked if they could test an OS of mine, was running very poorly with one a small house on it, I said sure and asked to be informed what they found out. this was a few months ago I never heard from anyone on it
* [13:29] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: typically if one wants to charge more one should offer more in return
* [13:29] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: for us if the sim is up then its FINE!
* [13:29] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: So I do know they check them out
* [13:29] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: 50000 people use SL every night and they will use resources reguardless of where they are. You need to make sure high traffic sims dont share servers with low traffic sims and sre there is a lot of emty sims
* [13:29] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: it is illgela anywhere in teh world
* [13:29] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: okay... what are the general thoguhts of how to handle situations where someone with a bazillion attachments rezzes into a sim that's 3 prims shy of its limit?
* [13:29] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: they should have to pay for how many prims they are using in their attachments
* [13:29] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: take it down and notify owner just why
* [13:29] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @River... er.. um.. that's Ms. Linden
* [13:29] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: so we have cg linden behind us
* [13:30] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Oh joy, now we're going back to 2003 again?
* [13:30] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: lets face it you guys are doing this because mainland is not selling. Has not got 1 thing to do with resource issues, except for a few complaints that you must handle from residents
* [13:30] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Infinity: easy: limit the maximum amount of prims per avatar, but keep the 255 limit per attachment.
* [13:30] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: by counting it's frame time... and using that to limit avatar entry, script speed and physics responses
* [13:30] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: if you have too much hair in SL you should have to pay a hair tier
* [13:30] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: thats rediculous that can happen on a regular sim as well
* [13:30] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Whump Linden is here too, how nice to meet you
* [13:30] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: lets face it you guys are doing this because mainland is not selling. Has not got 1 thing to do with resource issues, except for a few complaints that you must handle from residents
* [13:30] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: hmm.. FWord has an interesting suggestion
* [13:30] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Infinity.. I think you should be more worried abotu the script load of each avatar more than prims... Prims only affect the sim during transit..
* [13:30] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: and how can you tell if a prim is a hair or just an overly wrought balustrade?
* [13:30] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: Phillip... i htink you're on to something there
* [13:30] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: the sim owner can't control how many prims the visitors of the sim wears and shouldn't have to pay the fee
* [13:30] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: Infinity you place tiers on hair and every female in SL will be after M... lol
* [13:30] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: I agree. The real issue here is almost certainly about mainland being so low in price
* [13:30] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: are there hair prims in SL? no.
* [13:31] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: i dont everwantt to live on mainland again, the experience was negative
* [13:31] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: we need a script RC the same way we have an ARC..
* [13:31] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: so when you have nearly 600US$ per month including VAT for 4 voids how long before you charge the same prices fo a full sim?
* [13:31] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: yup... Zha recently noted the evolution of hair in-world.
* [13:31] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: script load is supposed to be comming down as ppl switch to mono... but there's not been enough time to get everyone changed over
* [13:31] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: any comments?
* [13:31] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: ok no one can get into this sim because it has reached its limit, do the same with attacxhments.
* [13:31] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Greetings to CG Linden as well
* [13:31] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: what was "high end" two years ago is now "common"
* [13:31] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: regular non-estat owners dont understand how much script time avatars use..
* [13:31] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: I'm very encouraged. the last thing my boss said to me before she collapsed in bed was "These guys are savaging people rather than policy. bakabakabakazzz..."
* [13:31] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: so limit the number of scripts
* [13:31] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: U cannot increase prices overnight
* [13:32] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: that too when we are under recession
* [13:32] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: lets face it you guys are doing this because mainland is not selling. Has not got 1 thing to do with resource issues, except for a few complaints that you must handle from residents
* [13:32] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: what concerns me is it's hard to say what the next "best practice" for any digital asset will be in the future
* [13:32] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: and why is Linden selling overpriced land
* [13:32] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: jensen they can and often do
* [13:32] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Jensen has a valid query.
* [13:32] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: as the inventor of hair tier i demand licensing rights for any and all hair tier fees
* [13:32] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: why is there NEW land when you cant sell the old you already have
* [13:32] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: well we need to develop systems to keep in check
* [13:32] [[User:Danica Palmer|Danica Palmer]]: i agree with Duke..mainland..nobody wants it
* [13:32] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: the limit is not prims, not scripts, not physics... it's CPU cycles
* [13:32] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: or they wipe out the value of your sims by reducing them overnight
* [13:32] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Infinity, would yo agree the price hike is justified and do you support it?
* [13:32] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Again, Jack Linden is responding to questions and comments about the policy change on the forum thread: [http://forums.secondlife.com/forumdisplay.php?f=354]
* [13:32] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: certain sims in the mainland are overpriced beyond any ostensibly sane measure.
* [13:32] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: Jensen... i'm not in charge of pricing policy
* [13:32] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: well i just completed my 1000 flexi prim hair
* [13:32] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: to sell of it in an new way
* [13:33] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: no he issnt whump hes spewing bs like alwaYS
* [13:33] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: i knwo ur not
* [13:33] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: (otherwise ther would be very reasonable pricing for people with unpronouncable irish names)
* [13:33] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: or they close gambling down with no warning when you have just furnished your club
* [13:33] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: right... jack is out of office for a week....
* [13:33] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: im just expressing
* [13:33] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: the limit is not prims, not scripts, not physics... it's CPU cycles... cpu cycles and bandwidth are the comodity...
* [13:33] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: thats it not just tech issues
* [13:33] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: in the future, you should have to pay for the number of sentences you expell throughout your lifetime and the bandwidth and processor power it consumes.
* [13:33] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Infinity.. the problem i have is jacks post is schitzophrenic... he says. "abuse" and the fix is higher prices.. that just doesnt make sense.. abuse is fixed by bans and warnings.. increased performance (2 voids to a simn) is a soltion that warrants an increase in price.. by increasing price with no performance gain, you dont solve a problem.. you just drive up mainland pricing..
* [13:33] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: its the competition in busenss
* [13:33] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: YOU GUYS DONT CARE unless it benefits you
* [13:33] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: DUKE WE DO TOO CARE
* [13:33] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: i am Sr. Proejct Manager Operation in real life
* [13:33] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: hahaha what a suprise, Jack has left :-))
* [13:33] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Duke... that's not true
* [13:33] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Its not Jacks fault and we all know or should know that
* [13:33] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: and i do understand Business practices
* [13:33] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Infinity do yo agree with increasiong the prices on Open sims by 66% and do you support that move
* [13:34] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: i am the princess of zumunda
* [13:34] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: if we didn't care, we wouldn't be having this conversation
* [13:34] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: This perception may not be true, but the existence of it is a potential cause of problems and should ideally be solved asap. woozl.
* [13:34] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: then why do you continue to approach problems liek this with a bulldozer instead of a real solution thats fair?
* [13:34] [[User:Danica Palmer|Danica Palmer]]: yes its true Infinity
* [13:34] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: I'm a lowly coder from Woozlstan, but never mind me.
* [13:34] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: @river, this is not about open sims, this is about open space sims, there's a difference between open sim and open space sims
* [13:34] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: and there lies the crux of the matter. fairness.
* [13:34] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: 60% increase over night, no waRNING
* [13:34] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: 66%
* [13:34] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: THATS CARING?
* [13:34] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Phillip: that, along with the disingenuous attempt to say that LL did not "forsee" users using openspaces in such ways, is the crux of the reasoning behind resource use not being the real issue.
* [13:35] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Well this is not first time LL has done it to us is it ????
* [13:35] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: you didnt want this conversation your were forced into it
* [13:35] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: but yeah... it's clear that amongst this audience we're all going to have to work very hard to regain some of the trust that appears lost
* [13:35] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: opensims are free except you have to have the hardware and the bandwidth. open space sims are not rent controlled environments
* [13:35] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: that is a sematic arguement and pointless we all know whgat she meant
* [13:35] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: some truyst try all trust
* [13:35] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: but first, someone get me a fireextinguisher, because the guy next to me is burning to death apparently.
* [13:35] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Open Space Sims are having their prices increased by 66% on jan 1st, I want to know if the lindens here support that price increase?
* [13:35] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: i think the loss will be more then just trust
* [13:35] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: we never trusted you, we know you are in league with the forces of darkness
* [13:35] [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]: Duke, as noted above, neither Infinity or I can change policy. We are engineers. The Linden Lab employee responding to those questions is doing in on the forum thread: [http://forums.secondlife.com/forumdisplay.php?f=354.]
* [13:35] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: still the best damn game in the history of the internet but your going to loose everything if you dont wake up
* [13:35] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: FWORD STOP ARGUING SEMANTICS
* [13:35] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: perhaps 3-5 months of "cracking down" on "abusers" and proper warnings before a major plan like the one on the blog
* [13:35] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Infinity.. there is also a real PR issue here.. if jack did this with less than M Lindens approval then thre's a need to look at process.. if M did approve then he neads to understand that the stockmarket was destroyed simply through loss of confidence.. the same thing LL is suffering here.. this will cost LL hard money wither way now.. PLEASE handlle these issues better next time
* [13:35] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: the user base makes linden lab
* [13:35] [[User:Danica Palmer|Danica Palmer]]: people that spent hard earned money invested in sl and to what fo lindens to do this...why would they let people just walk away without coming up with a solution and if they think raising prices is a solution then they are wrong
* [13:35] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Look at money many of us lost when LL sold sims for 1K instead of 1675
* [13:35] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Infinity: not just this audiance. Almost every user on the entire grid feels similarly. This is demonstrated now, and will be even moreso in the coming days.
* [13:36] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: you can make ur voices heard :)
* [13:36] [[User:Currency Calculator|Currency Calculator]]: HUD: Der aktuelle USD/SLL Mittelkurs ist jetzt 279.00 L$/US$ [https://www.virwox.com]
* [13:36] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: @whump why don't the management people get in-world and take the heat in stead of the developers
* [13:36] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: our*
* [13:36] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: there seems to be some agreement on that.
* [13:36] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we need decisions makers here
* [13:36] [[User:Lim Catteneo|Lim Catteneo]]: 125 * 16 = 2000 USD per server hosting opensims, that's making a killing ;)
* [13:36] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: not technical staff
* [13:36] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Linden management are still at Lunch
* [13:36] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: I also support M linden getting his ass in to the world he runs and explaining whats going on here
* [13:36] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: I fail to see the fairness of Lindens who have been tasked for matters other than making decisions taking the heat for those decisions when they fall over.
* [13:36] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: yes
* [13:36] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: "Open Space Sims"
* [13:36] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Thanks Infinity for listening to us. Even if you are not related with this economic policy. I know technical solutions can be found without the need of increasing the tier in a 60% of the original price.
* [13:36] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: out to lunch you mean river
* [13:36] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: please send the CEO infinity or the CFO or theCOO
* [13:37] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: get the person who made the "business decisision" (not a bad one from a bottom line perspective) to come in here and say HE/SHE Cars
* [13:37] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: cares
* [13:37] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: i don't know of any multitask operating system that can't allocate CPU cycles based on a formula... this can be done
* [13:37] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: okay... more actionable suggestions... cracking down on abusers
* [13:37] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: The golden standard for outrage in SL is "LL to close Second Life".
* [13:37] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: same with bandwidth
* [13:37] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Infinity, my colleague and I have thought about it a bit in the past hour.
* [13:37] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Yes.. Infinity.. define abuse.. give us time to comply
* [13:37] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: NO I still dont agree in this abuser label
* [13:37] [[User:Lim Catteneo|Lim Catteneo]]: Infinity, make opensims run 3 per cpu or something, to justify the price hike *and* help with the performance issues
* [13:37] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: the "ungrandfather" those that dont comply
* [13:37] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: Femina... who's been calling you an abuser?
* [13:38] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: but who are the abusers, are they the ones using 1400 script on a openspace? the one with more then 20 trees what are they! ???!
* [13:38] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: No Infinity, its nothing to do with abusers, its to do with unfair implemented price hikes, its gouging its bait and switch and you have made a big mistake, you have to agree with me there
* [13:38] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: Jack has
* [13:38] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: I think the solution the residents should demand is to enforce the lindens to live in the low-prim poverty that they try to enforce upon the renters. if the lindens want to claim hair tier, then they should be forced to be bald to reduce their impact on a world we pay to rent.
* [13:38] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: Lindens are only making people mad right now
* [13:38] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: but DO immediately put technical soluitions in place to limit cross contamination of voids
* [13:38] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: Lindens implied they could do what they liked by increasing prims and changing the qualifications
* [13:38] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: by making us talkj and do nothing
* [13:38] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: would it be possible to code some form or method for flagging sims that are consistently bursting in terms of resource use and monitor them for a period?
* [13:38] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: lets face it you guys are doing this because mainland is not selling. Has not got 1 thing to do with resource issues, except for a few complaints that you must handle from residents
* [13:38] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: where is Jack Linden
* [13:38] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Camping bots that's a grid wide issue. Some PPL is using camping bots in open space sims
* [13:38] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: jack is in hawaii
* [13:38] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we need terms of use for sims
* [13:38] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: Jensen... belive me... if i could find Jack... i would get him right now
* [13:38] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: a to the point list
* [13:39] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Way to get muted Duke
* [13:39] [[User:Patnad Babii|Patnad Babii]]: having a blast with our money
* [13:39] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: :(
* [13:39] [[User:Danica Palmer|Danica Palmer]]: we want jack, we want jac, we want jack
* [13:39] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: lol
* [13:39] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: Infinity no one has but I dont like this witch hunt against people who had no idea they were breaking any rulings
* [13:39] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: really? Jack's in Hawaii?
* [13:39] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: well Infinity this is not personal
* [13:39] [[User:Indira Matova|Indira Matova]]: o_0
* [13:39] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: get jack on the phone, its his business to be here, hell, we have that technology now, its not an excuse any longer to be not here
* [13:39] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: statistical data is what computers do best:) heck i could write a sim performance monitor in LSL
* [13:39] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Actionable suggestions? A major policy to all users of LL by Jack Linden, M Linden, and any other employee involved in formulating this policy, a complete retraction of the policy, and some sort of realignment in how LL works to make sure that policies like this which hurt so many customers are never proposed again.
* [13:39] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: yeah... i hear you Cati
* [13:39] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: well since no one answered its becaus eits true :)
* [13:39] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: i'm not taking it personally...
* [13:39] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: there should also be at least some form of notice that the sim is running above capacity. prolonged failure to fix this issue should be considered acceptance to convert the offending OpenSpace to a full sim and payment of the difference in tier and setup costs.
* [13:39] [[User:Duke McDonnagh|Duke McDonnagh]]: gl everyone and bless all lindens they work hard :)
* [13:39] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: but some management should be present and not let their employees deal with the shit
* [13:39] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: NOW IS THE TIME OF REVOLUTION AND WE ARE REVOLTING!
* [13:39] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Good, cause we sure dont mean it that way Infinity
* [13:39] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: and while i'm not the person who makes policy decisions for pricing
* [13:39] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: You boast that second life can bring people together but you cant get your managers on line, do me a favor, I dont beleive you
* [13:40] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: FWord, stop stirring the pot with an excrement-covered stick!
* [13:40] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: youve been most accomodating infinity thankyou for listening :D
* [13:40] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: The nutzo thing is if you had inroduced a "supervoid" we'd all cheer and upgrade where we could.. instead we get this.. NUTS
* [13:40] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: yes
* [13:40] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: i'm trying to help everyone here understand how you might get the best response from then what are responsible
* [13:40] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: This policy shows, at its core, that LL is BROKEN. To make such a policy turn only months after changing it, and the extreme disreguard for the negative PR and anger from its users, shows that LL is almost completely cut off from the desires of its customers.
* [13:40] [[User:Danica Palmer|Danica Palmer]]: no you dont...but hear us and go back and tell Jack since he wont come to us
* [13:40] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: I think you have some points already Infinity
* [13:41] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: i'm not feeling cutoff from our customers at this moment
* [13:41] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I dont understand how LL could keep pushing out the os sims if they were causing such problems
* [13:41] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: I think that LL is a cult and they are building a rocket ship to go into space and dominate humanity, and that this extra fee is a tax to make people pay for their gas.
* [13:41] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: inherent in this suggestion is that ways should be implemented to allow owners of openspace sims to better monitor OpenSpaces they own and determine more easily the causes of overuse.
* [13:41] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Oh for the love of...
* [13:41] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: Infinity, this is an important day . make or break.
* [13:41] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Infinity: maybe not you, and I know several Lindens who are very reponsive :) I'm talking about how the company operates as a whole.
* [13:41] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: One flaw in that premise fword; Gas is currently cheap :D
* [13:41] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: LOOK, I'm the one who's supposed to be an idiot, stop taking my spot!
* [13:42] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: WOOOOZL
* [13:42] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: and at a basic level Linden Labs needs to institute some thread controls to prevent voids exceeding more than 25% of a cpu
* [13:42] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: even tying them to a single core would help this instantly
* [13:42] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: ctrl shift 1.... click simulator.... scroll to the bottom... click time(ms)
* [13:42] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: Teravus, you are secretly in cahoots with the dark lord who makes us all wear pants.
* [13:42] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: facepalms.
* [13:42] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: actually infinity.. theres a NO COST fix for this whole mess.. bind Voids to specific cores
* [13:43] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: Well, my understanding is that they do tie sims to processors in a normal sim. But.. in an OpenSpace Sim, there are more sims then processors.
* [13:43] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: just a matter of smart coding no need of having 8 core cpus to solve every issue.
* [13:43] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: im from the UK,, we got VAT of 17.5%, extremely weak pound vs dollar at the moment and now they raise prices of open sims
* [13:43] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: Infinity you and the other Lindens we see here are the face of LInden Labs we see at this time we need you to stop what your doing before you sink the whole dam ship
* [13:43] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: okay.. before we jump to technical solutions...
* [13:43] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: is there a way to find the mono script time not the lsl one
* [13:43] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: theres a couple "problem domain" takeaways here
* [13:43] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: 1. residents are mad
* [13:43] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: hehe
* [13:43] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: yep if 4 are bound to one core and all 4 are owned by the same person; only that person will experience lag in their sims
* [13:43] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: my owner is closing all her sims
* [13:43] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: u want people to go bankrupt ?
* [13:43] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: (let's listen please)
* [13:43] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: understatement, but yes.
* [13:44] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: Infinity... perhaps before policies are put into place... obtain input form those of us who will be affected by them?
* [13:44] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: 1.a. "last minute" price changes
* [13:44] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: as usual
* [13:44] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: with the latest RC viewers, script events are measured in terms of mono instructions per second already in statistics, so it's all clear.
* [13:44] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: is there a way to find the mono script time not the lsl one
* [13:44] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Infinity, if you are finding this amusing, you are reminded that we pay your wages
* [13:44] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: 1.b. perception that everyone who bought an OS sim is getting tarred with the "abuser" brush
* [13:44] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: river chill.. infinity is summarising
* [13:44] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: River, I don't think that she's finding it amusing.
* [13:45] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @river... trust me... i would much rather be watching NetFlix at the moment
* [13:45] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: (please let us her to speak)
* [13:45] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: There is a difference between amusement and determining the problem.
* [13:45] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: .. River.. Technical people tend to write documentation and requirements...
* [13:45] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: I miss read 'residents are mad' for 'resident are angry'
* [13:45] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: and right..
* [13:45] [[User:SexyAnn Ashley|SexyAnn Ashley]]: Solve this Problem
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* 1) Offer Free Converssion to Full Sims from 4 Open Sims
*
* 2) Offer a refund for those that have 3 or less Open Sims
*
* 3) Offer Open sims with less functionality for same Cost
*
* 4) Offer Open Sims With better functionality at New Cost so they are worth the New cost
* a) allow them more resources I.E. if you charging 67% more then give them 67% more.
* b) put less on each CPU
*
* 5) take Open Sims off the Market completely.
*
* 6) Use a Meter to track Use and Misuse of open Sims on New Client you are Developing.
*
* Post to the Community what the Correct usage is and How to achieve this.
* 1) How many scripts one can use
* 2) how many textures
* 3) examples of Loads that are with-in reason. I.E. 250 scripts 250 Textures and 25 Avatars.
* [13:45] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: .. And infinity is defining the problem..
* [13:45] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: not only that Infinity, we feel we have been conned into buying so that LL can profiteer.
* [13:45] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: i would revise that to "a blanket policy creates the perception that everyone is painted with the abuser brush"
* [13:45] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: 2. residents want clearer definitions of resource consumption limits
* [13:45] [[User:Ayesha Lytton|Ayesha Lytton]]: Perception that you want this market/product to fail
* [13:45] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: The fact infinity is talking about it even though its not really the topic of this office hour is a good thing :)
* [13:46] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: i want what i paid for
* [13:46] [[User:Indira Matova|Indira Matova]]: >>>>> YES >>>> Use a Meter to track Use and Misuse of open Sims on New Client you are Developing.
* [13:46] [[User:Rush Gastel|Rush Gastel]]: not new limits that you decide on
* [13:46] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: You wanted solutions, Rush. Let Infinity try to feel a way out.
* [13:46] [[User:Indira Matova|Indira Matova]]: sinner should only pay :/
* [13:46] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: 3. punish sim operators who try to overload thier openspace sims (without hurting people who are trying to get close, but not over resource allocation limits)
* [13:46] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Infinty?
* [13:46] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: thx tomorrow
* [13:46] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: limit parcels per os to 2 or 3
* [13:46] [[User:Lady Sakai|Lady Sakai]]: (193.5 a-z Residents would love not waking up with knifes in their backs)
* [13:46] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: I propose a forced conversion to full sim for prolonged openspace abuse.
* [13:46] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: cube has another suggestion... that's a good on
* [13:46] [[User:Indira Matova|Indira Matova]]: mke only estate owner able to build:/
* [13:47] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: this includes payment of the difference in costs between an openspace and a fuill sim.
* [13:47] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: eg Mos Ainsley
* [13:47] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: I disagree with that World...
* [13:47] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: Why punish anyone, punish is a hard and unwanted worrd, guidance on assistance would be infinitly better to use
* [13:47] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: If a full sim can hold 60 avs an open sim should be limited to 15
* [13:47] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: Tomorrow... maybe like an auto-detect... where if an OS sim consistently goes over usage, it gets upgraded to a regular sim..
* [13:47] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: this is of course determinant on giving estate owners reasonable ways to detect, determine and delete such abuse.
* [13:47] [[User:SexyAnn Ashley|SexyAnn Ashley]]: Infinity Read my Statement I wonder
* [13:47] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: nods.
* [13:47] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: LL itself is misusing OS
* [13:48] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Miss Ping said that, yus.
* [13:48] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: kinda like Verizon does when i go over my monthly wireless minutes
* [13:48] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: and dont make those of us who have less than 4 os sims to have to buy more to make up the full 4
* [13:48] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: warning first, THEN upgrade
* [13:48] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: To get a measure of current Resident anger, look at the massive clusters of green dots in the Nautilus sims. That is from just a disorganized, spontaneous protest.
* [13:48] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: thats unfair I have no use for more
* [13:48] [[User:Danica Palmer|Danica Palmer]]: there has to be better solutions than gouging the sim owners
* [13:48] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: open grid uses VM ware to share sim loads
* [13:48] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: That is another possibility.
* [13:48] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: yup... @Taff... yup... we got that one
* [13:48] [[User:SexyAnn Ashley|SexyAnn Ashley]]: Solve this Problem
*
* 1) Offer Free Converssion to Full Sims from 4 Open Sims
*
* 2) Offer a refund for those that have 3 or less Open Sims
*
* 3) Offer Open sims with less functionality for same Cost
*
* 4) Offer Open Sims With better functionality at New Cost so they are worth the New cost
* a) allow them more resources I.E. if you charging 67% more then give them 67% more.
* b) put less on each CPU
*
* 5) take Open Sims off the Market completely.
*
* 6) Use a Meter to track Use and Misuse of open Sims on New Client you are Developing.
*
* Post to the Community what the Correct usage is and How to achieve this.
* 1) How many scripts one can use
* 2) how many textures
* 3) examples of Loads that are with-in reason. I.E. 250 scripts 250 Textures and 25 Avatars.
* [13:48] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: Infinity did you get what i said
* [13:48] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: in many recent sserver uses, there seems to be a trend towards some form of virtualization.
* [13:49] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: what about grandfather
* [13:49] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: right SexyAnn... got that in the transcript
* [13:49] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: ban sex beds
* [13:49] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: Infinity... I think it is also important to include grandfathering for those OS sims already in place...
* [13:49] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: lol
* [13:49] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Intel and AMD have even noted and adapted to this, with some recent server chips being capable of doing so right from the silcon level.
* [13:49] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: If a sim is attracting a lot of people that is a good thing for SL. You should be encouraging people to get people in their sims and not punishing them
* [13:49] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: the grandfather point is only usefull if there is a price hike
* [13:49] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: we're obviusly moving over to the "solution space" here
* [13:49] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: I appreciate it.
* [13:49] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Cube: that would destroy sl! ;)
* [13:49] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Grandfathering is not a techical issue here.
* [13:49] [[User:X-LANG 3.0|X-LANG 3.0]]: [script:trans]: Script run-time error
* [13:49] [[User:X-LANG 3.0|X-LANG 3.0]]: [script:trans]: Stack-Heap Collision
* [13:49] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: before she fell over, my colleague was fretting about the collision in here.
* [13:49] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: ok
* [13:50] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: But the more important is: Limit Stuff: Agents and scripts
* [13:50] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: I need to tell her to stop being so overly concerned about things.
* [13:50] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: the emotional investments which people have in their Sl homes and Sl lives is quite amazing
* [13:50] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Femina.. looks like you like the idea of an opensim.. you don't want to be forced into buying a regular sim
* [13:50] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: it has to be.
* [13:50] [[User:Cube Republic|Cube Republic]]: dont ruin it
* [13:50] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: s/opensim/open space sim/
* [13:50] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: the last time i checked the average sexgen bed in full use runs at 0.5-0.6 ms script time
* [13:50] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: no infinity I have 10 full sims
* [13:50] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: there is an inherent silliness in the fact that we insist on virtual beds, virtual houses, and even virtual sex.
* [13:50] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: yep.. 'open space sim'
* [13:51] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we need a rollback on prices
* [13:51] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: and yet... it has its comforting...
* [13:51] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: I dont want to have to buy 2 more open sims
* [13:51] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Kahiro... yup.. grandfathering is on thee list of "non-technical" solutions
* [13:51] [[User:Lady Sakai|Lady Sakai]]: we need to have at least one full to own OS
* [13:51] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: one physical sailboat is harder on the CPU than a house and a bed
* [13:51] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: (well.. it is now)
* [13:51] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: the key question is that from the side of the people supplying the lindens, can they support such a move too?
* [13:51] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: my manager lives on one and I live on the other
* [13:51] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I think communication is the key and we dont seem to have it
* [13:51] [[User:Layla Fiertze|Layla Fiertze]]: agree
* [13:51] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: i dont want to have to buy 2 more
* [13:51] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: yes
* [13:51] [[User:Jackson Rickenbacker|Jackson Rickenbacker]]: those words grandfathering is sweet music to me
* [13:51] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: i agree with Alliez
* [13:51] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: to make it up to 4
* [13:51] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: and for gods sake get M linden to say something on this.. I have panic in my renter population..
* [13:51] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: there has been no communication for months
* [13:52] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Taff is apparently a man who enjoys shouting "off my lawn" at young people.
* [13:52] [[User:BarronessSaphire Hausmann|BarronessSaphire Hausmann]]: i would agree that a physical sail boat is harsh on a sim... it generates lots of physics and script calls
* [13:52] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: None at all we just get hit out of the blue
* [13:52] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: Our residents are looking at bailing...
* [13:52] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: SL was built on communication.
* [13:52] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: we can't continue to sustain that kind of onslaught
* [13:52] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: to turn away from it, I was taught, invites failre.
* [13:52] [[User:Taff Nouvelle|Taff Nouvelle]]: SL IS communication :-)
* [13:52] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: It's also a good place to hide my favorite snug mattress and bag of kibble.
* [13:52] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: Woozl.
* [13:53] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]: greeting
* [13:53] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: SL is what america was just prior to the war of independence.. (which we brits LET you win BTW :P)
* [13:53] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Phillip... okay... i'll ping my SF minions... i hear ya... you wanna hear smoething from the exec staff
* [13:53] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: suuuure, Phillip.
* [13:53] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]: gritings*
* [13:53] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Well must be my fault Im not getting any
* [13:53] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: that was the gist of it.
* [13:53] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: interesting that a sailboat is script heavy but that is what open sims are supposed to be for
* [13:53] [[User:Femina Matahari|Femina Matahari]]: yes infinity
* [13:53] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: this is the end, no one will ever log on to the internet ever again
* [13:53] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: hopefully, a solution can be found that maximises resident happiness.
* [13:53] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: In other words, someone stop FWord, he's running away with my "Village Idiot" title.
* [13:53] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: Phillip: it is very fitting that the openspace JIRA, [http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1776] has the number 1776. That is the year the American revolution started :)
* [13:54] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: infinity.. if this is a minion overstepping his perogatives then M can solve it.. if not .. then M can use pr speak to calm the savage beasts
* [13:54] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @Pippen... i hear you... i'll make sure M, Jack, et al get a summary and the transcript of this meeting
* [13:54] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Thanks Infinity.
* [13:54] [[User:Pippen Sonnenblume|Pippen Sonnenblume]]: ty Infinity
* [13:54] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: without FWord pleasse. he makes me look good.
* [13:54] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: I am more than willing to work with anyone as I think most of us are but give us a clue, please
* [13:54] [[User:Eastland Newall|Eastland Newall]]: hehe
* [13:54] [[User:Aminom Marvin|Aminom Marvin]]: now that JIRA is at 642 votes. 150 votes added since the start of this discussion!
* [13:54] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: I'm not supposed to look good. it's not in my contract.
* [13:54] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: 1776.
* [13:54] [[User:River Ely|River Ely]]: a summary will be posted on my blog minutes after we leave, I assure you
* [13:54] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: we can help u find defaulting sim owners
* [13:54] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Aminom.. I'm voting for that just BECAUSE its 1776 :)
* [13:54] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: woah.
* [13:54] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: @everyone... wow.. it got late fast
* [13:55] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: i already have 2 names in my list
* [13:55] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: please deposit 25 cents to continue.
* [13:55] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: We appreciate the extra time you took to try to untangle this Gordian knot.
* [13:55] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: heres .50
* [13:55] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: Thanks
* [13:55] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: i gotta run to another meetign... let me just say thanks everynoe... we kept it pretty positive... i appreciate that
* [13:55] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: lol
* [13:55] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: so whats teh decisions
* [13:55] [[User:Teravus Ousley|Teravus Ousley]]: yep, this is just about the regular end of this meeting.
* [13:55] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: Congrats on surving infinity :)
* [13:55] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: ok. we're having a protest afterparty in open space sims throughout the grid
* [13:55] [[User:Phillip Vought|Phillip Vought]]: That'll cost you one bear please :)
* [13:55] [[User:Kahiro Watanabe|Kahiro Watanabe]]: See you.
* [13:55] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: i know there's a lot of feelings about this issue
* [13:55] [[User:Lady Sakai|Lady Sakai]]: Flips Fword a shiny dollar
* [13:55] [[User:Chaley May|Chaley May]]: bye infinity
* [13:55] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: bring your mega hair
* [13:55] [[User:Rex Cronon|Rex Cronon]]: bye
* [13:55] [[User:Christo Larsen|Christo Larsen]]: THANK YOU INFINITY!
* [13:55] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: There are yes.
* [13:56] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: and i hate to say it, but, io don't think the solutions are gonna come overnight
* [13:56] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: tc infinity. you are a business ninja
* [13:56] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: but they are an extension of the hopes and dreams so many of us have.
* [13:56] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: me?
* [13:56] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: lol fword
* [13:56] [[User:FWord Utorid|FWord Utorid]]: ;)
* [13:56] [[User:Christo Larsen|Christo Larsen]]: remembers the frog he has buried on one of his open sims and sobs....
* [13:56] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: We are used to waiting
* [13:56] [[User:TheWorldOf Tomorrow|TheWorldOf Tomorrow]]: thanks for the help.
* [13:56] [[User:Twistit Saiman|Twistit Saiman]]: Seeyou Infinity, held yourself well ;)
* [13:56] [[User:Cati Capalini|Cati Capalini]]: thnks
* [13:56] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: my friend has closed her sims
* [13:56] [[User:Alliez Mysterio|Alliez Mysterio]]: Appreciate your time, Infinity
* [13:56] [[User:Jensen Kranfel|Jensen Kranfel]]: she pays 11000US$ a month to u lindens
* [13:56] [[User:Alexandra Kavanagh|Alexandra Kavanagh]]: will there be any solutions? @infinitly
* [13:56] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: again... thanks... we'll get through this...
* [13:56] [[User:Alexandra Kavanagh|Alexandra Kavanagh]]: or only price hikes?
* [13:57] [[User:Infinity Linden|Infinity Linden]]: now.. if you'll pardno me... i'm gonna try to track down our execs

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:51:30 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{ Alert Box| '''These viewers are for the OGP Beta only'''. If you need a ''release candidate viewer'', please see http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php }}

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:51:14 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{ Alert Box| '''These viewers are for the OGP Beta only'''. If you need a release candidate viewer, please see http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php }}

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:50:56 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{ Alert Box| These viewers are for the OGP Beta only. If you need a release candidate viewer, please see http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php }}

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Public Regions

Whump Linden — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:18:24 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Linden Lab OGP Regions */

The following OpenSim regions supporting the Open Grid protocol are available for you to teleport to once you've authenticated to the agent domain:

This is value you enter into the region URL dialog on the login screen and the World >> Teleport Region command.

== Linden Lab OGP Regions ==

{{Alert Box | The regions on vaak are temporarily unavailable. }}

* http://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:13000/public_seed
* http://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:13001/public_seed

== Whump Linden's OpenSim ==
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Interop%20Island
** Go here to get the key to exchange for your own Gridnaut Bear.
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Nomanisan%20Island
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Sinshan
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/The%20Bridge%20to%20Nowhere
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]

== Ugotrade ==

* http://ugotrade.net:9000
* 24/7 if it is down I will restart
* Contact: Tara5 Oh

== COM.lounge / Tao Takashi / mrtopf.de ==

* http://plonetv.de:9000
* currently offline due to awaiting new patch
* Contact: [http://mrtopf.de/blog Tao Takashi]

== BlueWall ==

* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300/BlueWall%20Isle
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300/Bay%20Side
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:BlueWall Slade | Bluewall Slade]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://BlueWall.Slade@gmail.com BlueWall Slade]

== SimlandMax ==

* Region URL: http://simland.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:creator Luna]]

== Elsewhere ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.nowherevirtual.com:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (except for maintenance)
* Contact: [[User:Emma Nowhere | Emma Nowhere ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://emma.nowhere@gmail.com Emma Nowhere]

== LJPOGP00 ==

* http://98.26.97.209:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:Julie Wasserstrom | Julie Wasserstrom]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Julie.Wasserstrom@gmail.com Julie Wasserstrom]

== Luskwood ==

* http://opengrid.luskwood.net:9000
* 24/7, Not built out yet though.
* Contact [[User:Michi Lumin | Michi Lumin]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://michi@luskwood.org Michi Lumin]

== Akina ==
* http://213.186.37.135:9000
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:EloiseJolie Capalini|EloiseJolie Capalini]]
* Email [mailto://artana34@gmail.com Artana]

== Planck and Kaku ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.vworlds.co.uk:9000
* Times Available: 0:800 23:00 UTC 24/7 when new server is ready
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== Dirac, Fermi, Bohr and Pauli ==

* Region URL: http://mainland.vworlds.co.uk:9000/
* Times Available: 24/7
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== BrackenLand ==

* http://
* Temporarily offline
* Contact: [[User:Gomez Bracken | Gomez Bracken]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gomez@temptations-club.com Gomez Bracken]

== Piper ==

* Region URL: http://primforge.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [http://primforge.com/ Torrid Luna]

== Lakewood / Ducatillon Group Project ==

* http://dgpexperimental.selfip.org:9000
* 24/7 - might be unavailable for short periods as far as we update/maintain the location
* Contact: [[User:McCoy Ducatillon | McCoy Ducatillon]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://ducatillongroup@gmail.com McCoy Ducatillon]

== Burning Life Test Open Sim ==

* Region URL: http://68.178.191.56:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (Unless Under Update)
* Contact: [[User:Vicero Lambert | Vicero Lambert ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://jakekukuk@gmail.com Vicero Lambert]

== Litesim Mainland ==

* http://lsmainland.ogs-openuser.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 - occasional issues
* Contact: [[User:Gareth Ellison | Gareth Nelson]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gareth@litesim.com Gareth Nelson]
* About 10 regions on the grid
* Can also now do TP into other random (non-OGP) grids and tested with OSGrid and central grid

== Gridrock Worlds ==
* closed for the next few months
* Blog info: http://www.in2orbit.net
* E-Mail: [mailto://whyroc@in2orbit.net whyroc Slade]

== Douggles Hangout ==
* Region URL http://club-panty.com:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact bonghit Schism_External
* Email [mailto:pantera.42069@yahoo.com]

== Pixelpark ==
* Region URL http://curious.servegame.org:9000
* online ('''updated''' to r6665 as of 10/04/08)
* Contact [[User:Bartholomew Kleiber | Bartholomew Kleiber ]]
* Email [mailto://dirk.krause@pixelpark.com Dirk Krause]

== Five Miles Out ==
* Region URL http://taurus.fivemile.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime 1 Gbps
* Contact [[User:Jim Kupferberg | Jim Kupferberg ]]
* Email [mailto:info@fivemile.net Jim Kupferberg]

== Whichway From Here ==
* Region URL http://ae6vk.harpsichordyet.com:9000
* 09:00-22:00 SLT, but down at my whim.
* Contact [[User:Whichway Janus | Whichway Janus ]]
* Email [mailto:Whichway.Janus@Yahoo.Com Whichway Janus]

== Dahlia Island ==
* Region URL http://thnk1.dyndns.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Dahlia Trimble | Dahlia Trimble]]
* Email [mailto:dahliaTrimble@gmail.com Dahlia Trimble]

== 3Di OGP Test ==
* Region URL http://210.188.235.138:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Kish Kas | Kish Kas]]

== Bit Island ==
* Region URL http://mark.bitlife.jp:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact [[User:Bit2zero Planer | Bit2zero Planer]]

== metaXLR8 ==
* Region URL http://metaxlr8.com:9000
* Uptime 24/7, down only for testing and updating
* See http://metafuturing.net/index.php/MetaXLR8_OpenSim
* Contact: Giulio Perhaps

== La Isla West ==
* http://24.30.54.84:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:m0rdred Veil | m0rdred Veil]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://m0rdredveil@yahoo.com m0rdred Veil]

== AUGrid-OGP Norgan ==
* http://66.197.247.222:9005 http://ogp.augrid.org:9005
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/OGP%20Plaza - OGP Plaza
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/nortopia - Nortopia
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/augrid.org%20ogp - Augrid.org OGP
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/jodyville - JodyVille
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/66.197.247.222 - Test Numerical Sim name
* All regions are on AUGrid.org and Beta Grid
* Online 24/7 - Info and custom objects with land shaped like Aust. more info http://www.augrid.org
* Contact: [[User:Norgan Torok|Norgan Torok]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://contact@augrid.org Norgan Torok (SL)/Norgan Crazys (AUGrid)]

== Berlinos ==
* 1. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos
* 2. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos2
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact: [[User:Easyfresh Auer]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://easyfresh.auer@easyfresh-auer.de Easyfresh Auer]

== Bulli's Land ==
* Region URL: http://83.247.63.174:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:Bulli Schumann]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://bulli.schumann@gmail.com Bulli Schumann]

== GCSE ==
* Region URL: http://gcse.ath.cx:9300
* 24/7 uptime (unless NAT loopback fails)
* Contact: [[User:Herfulnerful Holsworthy]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://herfulnerful@charter.net Herfulnerful Holsworthy]

== Laps Grid ==
* Experimental Sandbox on Physical and Mental Health
* GRID MIMIR OPENSIM FOR HEALTH: -loginuri http://grid.centromimir.it:8002 -loginpage http://grid.centromimir.it
* OGP: -loginuri http://grid.centromimir.it:9000 -loginpage http://grid.centromimir.it
* OGP REGIONS: Garda Lake Simulation, Caffe Freud, Centro Mimir, Suburbia
* 24/7
* Contact: [[User:Lapsus Weinstein]]

== Radioactive World ==
* Region URL: '''http://ct1aic.dyndns.org:9000'''
* Up as much as possible
* Also with 14 SIM's @ OSGRID
* Contact: [[User:Radioactive Rosca]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://radioactive.rosca@gmail.com Radioactive Rosca]

== Bloob box Island ==
* Region URL: http://87.98.134.166:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:kaly Mayako]]

== Chandra ==
* http://surya.grids.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Armon Aeon|Armon Aeon]]

== Ciuso Prime ==
*http://85.214.71.94:9000 or http://prime.ciuso.com:9000 (currently teleporting works best using the ip address)
*intended to be up 24*7 except for maintenance and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Sered Woollahra|Sered Woollahra]], seredsecondlife at gmail.com

== Lexania ==
* 1. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000
* 2. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000/Lexania2
* Uptime: Quite a lot
* Status: Three trees and a puddle (per region!) :)
* Contact: Why not
* Which one: SL in-world IM, to [[User: Lexa Sands|Lexa Sands]]
* E-Mail: Yes, SL in-world IM (while offline)

* (No SSL port configured at the moment)

== TicTacToe for Gridnauts ==
* This "opensim" (world) is a test for "minimum requirements". We are using a Dell Latitude D600 notebook having a Intel Centrino 2.0 Ghz, 512 Mb (RAM) and a broadband line having only 256 Kbps (for downloads)/100 Kbps (for uploads).
* 2 avatares can play the tic-tac-toe game clicking cubes, that will rotate.
* http://titactoe.ath.cx:9000/TicTacToe
* Our "opensim" is hooked to OSGrid. Region: TicTacToe.
* If you like to do a test or a demo, please contact me.
* Contact: [[User:Adamascj Aji|Americo Damasceno - Adamascj Aji]]

== Beta Technologies OpenSim (Mini-)Grid ==
* Micro-grid for [http://betatechnologies.info/ Beta Technologies].
* The first four regions are co-located in Phoenix, Arizona (ping times should be about the same as to LL's grids); the last four in Portugal, Europe. The purpose was to test running a common grid distributed among two data centres. Servers are quite different in performance: the European server has much more memory and performance, but the network access is poor. The Arizona regions are on a low-powered server which however boasts excellent connectivity. The experience of going from one to the other is quite intriguing.
* Open for now as we just test things out; some regions might be closed in the future as this Mini-Grid begins to be internally used for our own projects (mostly as a temporary sandbox before transferring content to LL's grid).
* Uptime: ought to be 99.7%, except for upgrades and the odd reconfiguration. Some sims or parcels might me closed as this is being used for some internal testing.
* No support web site for now (users are created manually)
* if you wish to add your region to our Mini-Grid for tests, and don't wish to go through the fuss of creating your set of central servers, you're welcome to do so at this stage. Just contact us!
* Available regions as follows:
** 3650/3650 - Beta Technologies - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3650/3651 - Beta Technologies1 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3650 - Beta Technologies2 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 3651/3651 - Beta Technologies3 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9003/
** 3652/3650 - EggVille - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3652/3651 - Beta Sandbox - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3652 - Terreiro do Paco - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 3652/3652 - Palacio Real - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9003/
* Contact: [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn|Gwyneth Llewelyn]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Gwyneth.Llewelyn@BetaTechnologies.Info Gwyneth Llewelyn]

[[category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Public Regions

Whump Linden — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:17:40 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Linden Lab OGP Regions */

The following OpenSim regions supporting the Open Grid protocol are available for you to teleport to once you've authenticated to the agent domain:

This is value you enter into the region URL dialog on the login screen and the World >> Teleport Region command.

== Linden Lab OGP Regions ==

{{AlertBox | The regions on vaak are temporarily unavailable. }}

* http://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:13000/public_seed
* http://sim1.vaak.lindenlab.com:13001/public_seed

== Whump Linden's OpenSim ==
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Interop%20Island
** Go here to get the key to exchange for your own Gridnaut Bear.
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Nomanisan%20Island
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/Sinshan
* http://75.101.131.107:9000/The%20Bridge%20to%20Nowhere
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]]

== Ugotrade ==

* http://ugotrade.net:9000
* 24/7 if it is down I will restart
* Contact: Tara5 Oh

== COM.lounge / Tao Takashi / mrtopf.de ==

* http://plonetv.de:9000
* currently offline due to awaiting new patch
* Contact: [http://mrtopf.de/blog Tao Takashi]

== BlueWall ==

* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300/BlueWall%20Isle
* http://ascent.bluewallgroup.com:9300/Bay%20Side
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:BlueWall Slade | Bluewall Slade]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://BlueWall.Slade@gmail.com BlueWall Slade]

== SimlandMax ==

* Region URL: http://simland.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:creator Luna]]

== Elsewhere ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.nowherevirtual.com:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (except for maintenance)
* Contact: [[User:Emma Nowhere | Emma Nowhere ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://emma.nowhere@gmail.com Emma Nowhere]

== LJPOGP00 ==

* http://98.26.97.209:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:Julie Wasserstrom | Julie Wasserstrom]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Julie.Wasserstrom@gmail.com Julie Wasserstrom]

== Luskwood ==

* http://opengrid.luskwood.net:9000
* 24/7, Not built out yet though.
* Contact [[User:Michi Lumin | Michi Lumin]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://michi@luskwood.org Michi Lumin]

== Akina ==
* http://213.186.37.135:9000
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:EloiseJolie Capalini|EloiseJolie Capalini]]
* Email [mailto://artana34@gmail.com Artana]

== Planck and Kaku ==

* Region URL: http://opensim.vworlds.co.uk:9000
* Times Available: 0:800 23:00 UTC 24/7 when new server is ready
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== Dirac, Fermi, Bohr and Pauli ==

* Region URL: http://mainland.vworlds.co.uk:9000/
* Times Available: 24/7
* Contact [mailto://chris.samtanko@googlemail.com Chris Samtanko]

== BrackenLand ==

* http://
* Temporarily offline
* Contact: [[User:Gomez Bracken | Gomez Bracken]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gomez@temptations-club.com Gomez Bracken]

== Piper ==

* Region URL: http://primforge.org:9009
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [http://primforge.com/ Torrid Luna]

== Lakewood / Ducatillon Group Project ==

* http://dgpexperimental.selfip.org:9000
* 24/7 - might be unavailable for short periods as far as we update/maintain the location
* Contact: [[User:McCoy Ducatillon | McCoy Ducatillon]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://ducatillongroup@gmail.com McCoy Ducatillon]

== Burning Life Test Open Sim ==

* Region URL: http://68.178.191.56:9000
* Times Available: 24/7 (Unless Under Update)
* Contact: [[User:Vicero Lambert | Vicero Lambert ]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://jakekukuk@gmail.com Vicero Lambert]

== Litesim Mainland ==

* http://lsmainland.ogs-openuser.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 - occasional issues
* Contact: [[User:Gareth Ellison | Gareth Nelson]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://gareth@litesim.com Gareth Nelson]
* About 10 regions on the grid
* Can also now do TP into other random (non-OGP) grids and tested with OSGrid and central grid

== Gridrock Worlds ==
* closed for the next few months
* Blog info: http://www.in2orbit.net
* E-Mail: [mailto://whyroc@in2orbit.net whyroc Slade]

== Douggles Hangout ==
* Region URL http://club-panty.com:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact bonghit Schism_External
* Email [mailto:pantera.42069@yahoo.com]

== Pixelpark ==
* Region URL http://curious.servegame.org:9000
* online ('''updated''' to r6665 as of 10/04/08)
* Contact [[User:Bartholomew Kleiber | Bartholomew Kleiber ]]
* Email [mailto://dirk.krause@pixelpark.com Dirk Krause]

== Five Miles Out ==
* Region URL http://taurus.fivemile.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime 1 Gbps
* Contact [[User:Jim Kupferberg | Jim Kupferberg ]]
* Email [mailto:info@fivemile.net Jim Kupferberg]

== Whichway From Here ==
* Region URL http://ae6vk.harpsichordyet.com:9000
* 09:00-22:00 SLT, but down at my whim.
* Contact [[User:Whichway Janus | Whichway Janus ]]
* Email [mailto:Whichway.Janus@Yahoo.Com Whichway Janus]

== Dahlia Island ==
* Region URL http://thnk1.dyndns.org:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Dahlia Trimble | Dahlia Trimble]]
* Email [mailto:dahliaTrimble@gmail.com Dahlia Trimble]

== 3Di OGP Test ==
* Region URL http://210.188.235.138:9000
* 24/7 uptime, subject to outages for upgrades
* Contact [[User:Kish Kas | Kish Kas]]

== Bit Island ==
* Region URL http://mark.bitlife.jp:9000
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact [[User:Bit2zero Planer | Bit2zero Planer]]

== metaXLR8 ==
* Region URL http://metaxlr8.com:9000
* Uptime 24/7, down only for testing and updating
* See http://metafuturing.net/index.php/MetaXLR8_OpenSim
* Contact: Giulio Perhaps

== La Isla West ==
* http://24.30.54.84:9000
* 24/7 - may be unavailable for short periods for updates/maintenance
* Contact: [[User:m0rdred Veil | m0rdred Veil]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://m0rdredveil@yahoo.com m0rdred Veil]

== AUGrid-OGP Norgan ==
* http://66.197.247.222:9005 http://ogp.augrid.org:9005
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/OGP%20Plaza - OGP Plaza
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/nortopia - Nortopia
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/augrid.org%20ogp - Augrid.org OGP
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/jodyville - JodyVille
* http://ogp.augrid.org:9005/66.197.247.222 - Test Numerical Sim name
* All regions are on AUGrid.org and Beta Grid
* Online 24/7 - Info and custom objects with land shaped like Aust. more info http://www.augrid.org
* Contact: [[User:Norgan Torok|Norgan Torok]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://contact@augrid.org Norgan Torok (SL)/Norgan Crazys (AUGrid)]

== Berlinos ==
* 1. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos
* 2. Region URL: http://testgrid.de:9000/berlinos2
* 24/7 uptime
* Contact: [[User:Easyfresh Auer]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://easyfresh.auer@easyfresh-auer.de Easyfresh Auer]

== Bulli's Land ==
* Region URL: http://83.247.63.174:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:Bulli Schumann]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://bulli.schumann@gmail.com Bulli Schumann]

== GCSE ==
* Region URL: http://gcse.ath.cx:9300
* 24/7 uptime (unless NAT loopback fails)
* Contact: [[User:Herfulnerful Holsworthy]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://herfulnerful@charter.net Herfulnerful Holsworthy]

== Laps Grid ==
* Experimental Sandbox on Physical and Mental Health
* GRID MIMIR OPENSIM FOR HEALTH: -loginuri http://grid.centromimir.it:8002 -loginpage http://grid.centromimir.it
* OGP: -loginuri http://grid.centromimir.it:9000 -loginpage http://grid.centromimir.it
* OGP REGIONS: Garda Lake Simulation, Caffe Freud, Centro Mimir, Suburbia
* 24/7
* Contact: [[User:Lapsus Weinstein]]

== Radioactive World ==
* Region URL: '''http://ct1aic.dyndns.org:9000'''
* Up as much as possible
* Also with 14 SIM's @ OSGRID
* Contact: [[User:Radioactive Rosca]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://radioactive.rosca@gmail.com Radioactive Rosca]

== Bloob box Island ==
* Region URL: http://87.98.134.166:9000
* Up as much as possible
* Contact: [[User:kaly Mayako]]

== Chandra ==
* http://surya.grids.litesim.com:8000/ogp_listen
* 24/7 except for maint and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Armon Aeon|Armon Aeon]]

== Ciuso Prime ==
*http://85.214.71.94:9000 or http://prime.ciuso.com:9000 (currently teleporting works best using the ip address)
*intended to be up 24*7 except for maintenance and upgrades
* Contact: [[User:Sered Woollahra|Sered Woollahra]], seredsecondlife at gmail.com

== Lexania ==
* 1. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000
* 2. OGP Region URL: http://lexa.ath.cx:9000/Lexania2
* Uptime: Quite a lot
* Status: Three trees and a puddle (per region!) :)
* Contact: Why not
* Which one: SL in-world IM, to [[User: Lexa Sands|Lexa Sands]]
* E-Mail: Yes, SL in-world IM (while offline)

* (No SSL port configured at the moment)

== TicTacToe for Gridnauts ==
* This "opensim" (world) is a test for "minimum requirements". We are using a Dell Latitude D600 notebook having a Intel Centrino 2.0 Ghz, 512 Mb (RAM) and a broadband line having only 256 Kbps (for downloads)/100 Kbps (for uploads).
* 2 avatares can play the tic-tac-toe game clicking cubes, that will rotate.
* http://titactoe.ath.cx:9000/TicTacToe
* Our "opensim" is hooked to OSGrid. Region: TicTacToe.
* If you like to do a test or a demo, please contact me.
* Contact: [[User:Adamascj Aji|Americo Damasceno - Adamascj Aji]]

== Beta Technologies OpenSim (Mini-)Grid ==
* Micro-grid for [http://betatechnologies.info/ Beta Technologies].
* The first four regions are co-located in Phoenix, Arizona (ping times should be about the same as to LL's grids); the last four in Portugal, Europe. The purpose was to test running a common grid distributed among two data centres. Servers are quite different in performance: the European server has much more memory and performance, but the network access is poor. The Arizona regions are on a low-powered server which however boasts excellent connectivity. The experience of going from one to the other is quite intriguing.
* Open for now as we just test things out; some regions might be closed in the future as this Mini-Grid begins to be internally used for our own projects (mostly as a temporary sandbox before transferring content to LL's grid).
* Uptime: ought to be 99.7%, except for upgrades and the odd reconfiguration. Some sims or parcels might me closed as this is being used for some internal testing.
* No support web site for now (users are created manually)
* if you wish to add your region to our Mini-Grid for tests, and don't wish to go through the fuss of creating your set of central servers, you're welcome to do so at this stage. Just contact us!
* Available regions as follows:
** 3650/3650 - Beta Technologies - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3650/3651 - Beta Technologies1 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3650 - Beta Technologies2 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 3651/3651 - Beta Technologies3 - http://asimov.betatechnologies.info:9003/
** 3652/3650 - EggVille - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9000/
** 3652/3651 - Beta Sandbox - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9001/
** 3651/3652 - Terreiro do Paco - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9002/
** 3652/3652 - Palacio Real - http://bradbury.betatechnologies.info:9003/
* Contact: [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn|Gwyneth Llewelyn]]
* E-Mail: [mailto://Gwyneth.Llewelyn@BetaTechnologies.Info Gwyneth Llewelyn]

[[category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:16:38 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Alert Box| The LL OGP regions on the vaak grid are unavailable while we investigate a potential security issue. We are working to bring the OGP regions back as soon as possible. }}

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewer has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://metanomics.net/archive080408 recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* '''Wednesday''', 1:30PM SLT, [[User:Whump_Linden| Whump Linden office hours]] @ [http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office ambleside office]

===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:09:35 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewer has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://metanomics.net/archive080408 recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* '''Wednesday''', 1:30PM SLT, [[User:Whump_Linden| Whump Linden office hours]] @ [http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office ambleside office]

===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:09:15 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' Linux viewers has been updated as of 22 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://metanomics.net/archive080408 recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* '''Wednesday''', 1:30PM SLT, [[User:Whump_Linden| Whump Linden office hours]] @ [http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office ambleside office]

===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:08:32 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Current Release */

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux] (Updated 22-Oct-2008)

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:07:29 GMT

Whump Linden: /* Current Release */

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.6.100000.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

User:Infinity Linden/OGP Trust Phase 0

Whump Linden — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:32:13 GMT

Whump Linden: Undo revision 106912 by Infinity Linden (Talk)

=Introduction=

This page describes "near term" trust mechanisms for OGP protocol participants. The objective is not to define the ultimate trust or security system, or even to try to enumerate all trust issues; for that, please visit the [[User:Infinity_Linden/OGP_Trust_Model|OGP Trust Model Page]]. This page is intended to describe "near term" trust issues and how participants in the OGP Beta program may use features that currently exist to establish "trust" between region and agent domains. So.. the [[User:Infinity_Linden/OGP_Trust_Model|OGP Trust Model Page]] is where you will find information regarding Rights Expression Languages, revised permissions for in-world objects, distributed third-party authentication, integrating OpenID or SAML, etc. This page is where you'll find discussions regarding how client applications, agent domains and region domains establish a base level of trust through the use of X.509 certificates used in conjunction with TLS / HTTPS.

'''todo:''' continue fleshing out this section. maybe add links to "howtos" when we've reached agreement between LL, OpenSim, PyOGP

=How We Authenticate Protocol Actors=
[[Image:Sl2008 simplified trust 01.jpg|thumb|300px|simplified trust model]]

The diagram to the right shows how different protocol actors in OGP establish trust. The diagram shows the three major classes of protocol actors: client applications, agent domains and region domains. The objective of this section is to describe how actors establish trust in remote protocol participants. The concept of "trust" is intimately related to the authentication technology used by client and server software, but can be seen to be more than simple authentication. As we'll see in the section describing the proposed registration authority, authentication "reflects" trust, it does not create it.

==Authenticating Client Application Users to Agent Domain Servers==

Before an end user may enter the virtual world, they must authenticate themselves. This is just as true for automated systems as it is for human users. Three authentication techniques are described in the [[OGP_Authentication_Draft_3|authentication section of the OGP specification]]. When this document was written, only the hashed password authenticator was deployed on the OGP beta grid. It is also thought that for the "near term", Challenge Response and PKCS#5 PBKDF authenticators will not be deployed. It is important to note that the Second Life main grid and canonical Second Life viewer do not implement OGP at this time. Users will need to download the Open Grid Viewer from the [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Open Grid Beta Viewers page]].

Authentication begins with the user providing their password to the client application. The client application in turn constructs an agent_login message that it sends to the agent domain's LoginURI. The LoginURI for Linden Lab's OGP Beta is predefined as the default in the Open Grid Viewer. Users wishing to use a different Agent Domain may use the <code>--loginuri</code> option on the command line when invoking the viewer.

The details of how an avatar or account name and password are established between the end user and the agent domain is beyond the scope of this document. Linden Lab provides a web resource for account creation end users may access via a traditional web browser. Before Linden Lab will create an account, the end user must agree to a Terms of Service document and view any outstanding Critical Messages. Account Creation interactions take place over a HTTPS TLS-Encrypted transport. This is to ensure that eavesdroppers have a limited opportunity to intercept the new user's password.

Other Agent Domain operators are free to implement any policy they wish with respect to the security of agent credentials. But it should be noted that the use of HTTPS to transport agent_login requests is STRONGLY RECOMMENDED. Services deployed by Linden Lab will refuse to to agent_login requests that do not use HTTPS. As described later in this document, Linden Lab region domains may reject protocol messages from agent domains that do not require the use HTTPS for username/password establishment or for agent_login requests.

It is also important to note that the Open Grid Beta Viewer from Linden Lab will refuse to attempt to connect to non-https LoginURI. Agent domain operators who do not wish to use HTTPS based LoginURIs will need to distribute their own viewer application.

So... to recap. End users authenticate themselves to agent domains by using a username / password pair. How an agent domain establishes the trustworthiness of the end user is beyond the scope of this document. HTTPS is your friend. Linden Lab's servers may snub you if you don't like HTTPS.

==Authenticating Client Applications to Region Domain Servers==

Region domain servers SHOULD NOT make "sensitive" services available to unauthenticated clients.

Client Applications use the possession of a capability by the client as proof of authorization to perform a particular operation.

Ergo, if you operate a Region Domain, do not issue sensitive caps to a client directly. Give the sensitive cap to an agent domain and let it give the cap to the client.

==Authenticating Agent Domain Servers to Client Applications==

Hosts implementing the agent domain portion of OGP SHOULD make services available via HTTPS / TLS. As mentioned above, Linden Lab servers will reject some protocol interactions if they do not take place over HTTPS (or some other secure transport).

Before trusting an Agent Domain server, Client Applications SHOULD check the following to ensure that the server being communicated with is actually the Agent Domain server that it claims to be:

* if the server's server certificate uses an IP address as part of the X.509 Subject Name, is this the same IP address the peer is using? (i.e. - does the IP address of the server match the IP address in the X.509 Subject Name?)
* if the server's server certificate uses a DNS Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) as part of the X.509 Subject Name, does the IP address of the peer match the A record retrieved when doing a reverse DNS lookup?
* is the server's server certificate valid? (i.e. - is the current date between the validFrom and validTo dates in the server's certificate and every certificate in the chain up to a trusted certificate.
* is the server's server certificate explicitly trusted for authentication? (i.e. - is the server's certificate or a certificate in the server's certificate's chain explicitly trusted for authentication?)

It should be noted that these are all common options with most (if not all) TLS implementations, including OpenSSL.

It also implies that:

* the Client Application SHOULD maintain a list of "authentication trust-points" or certificates identifying organizations explicitly trusted by the Client Application for the purpose of authentication.
* <strike>the Client Application SHOULD NOT accept certificates that contain a wild-card in the Subject Name field of the certificate</strike>

==Authenticating Agent Domain Servers and Region Domain Servers to Each Other==

Sensitive communications between agent domain hosts and region domain hosts MUST be over a secure transport like TLS / HTTPS.

When an agent domain host initiates communication with a region domain host, it must verify the identity of the region domain via the region domain host's server certificate. The process listed in the Client Application to Agent Domain section above should be followed for agent to region communications.

<strike>To authenticate the agent domain to the region, the agent domain should provide its client certificate to the region domain host. The region domain may then authenticate the agent domain using the same process as above.

When a region domain host initiates communication with an agent domain host, the process is reversed. The Agent Domain's server certificate is validated first (by the region domain host), then the region domain's client certificate is validated (by the agent domain host).</strike>

Agent Domains should access sensitive resources ONLY via capabilities issued by the region domain.

Clever readers will note that this implies:

* the ability for both the agent domain and the region domain to generate server certificates for their systems.
* (and) the ability for both agent and region domains to manage a list of "authentication trust points" in a certificate chain.

Fortunately, this is a relatively well known process (though, administratively, it can be "less than easy" with existing open source tools.)

=Specific Issues With Linden Lab Software=

'''note:''' this section introduces ideas for discussion. no decision has yet been made to implement this proposal. no decision to do so is likely without community discussion.

==Linden Lab Self Signed Certificate For Agent and Region Domain Authentication==

Blergh. Okay, you caught us. We're using self-signed certificates.

In an environment where we were the only ones offering region hosting, agent hosting and making viewer software, this was not an unreasonable choice. But now we have to open this process up to allow interoperability with trusted agent and region domains.

In terms of the OGP Beta, this is likely not too onerous an administrative task. ['''note:''' the person who just wrote that is not, in fact, the person who would be fulfilling service requests, so your mileage may vary.] In the OGP Beta, we are not (yet) attempting to transer potentially sensitive assets and there are a relatively small number of region and agent domain operators.

So... the proposal is we (the community in general) move beyond Self-Signed Certs except for testing purposes.

The simplest way to meet the "move beyond self-signed certificates" requirement is for Linden Lab to operate a registration authority for the purpose of beginning the certification process for external agent and region domain operators.

Or we could use some set of common well-known CAs, like Verisign or somebody. Although they like charge money.

'''todo:''' fill out this section a touch more, maybe describing the process of registering a peer agent or region domain.

=Specific Issues With OpenSim Software=
'''note:''' Terevus, Zha, et al. do you want to add a few notes here?

'''Teravus:''' One thing to note here, however.. is you'll need to add your '''CA''' to the client's '''app_settings/CA.pem''' until the Linden/Verisign/Other CA process is worked out sufficiently. The directions for setting it up are in *svn*/share/junkCA

Certain things don't work in SSL mode now. For example: teleporting from Vaak to a SSL enabled OpenSimulator region fails because Vaak rejects self signed certificates and upon reading the response, it terminates the connection. (So in OpenSimulator, you'll see Vaak invoke the cap, but it'll still fail because vaak doesn't read the response)

==Self Signed Certificates for Agent and Region Domain Authentication==
==Proposed Registration Authority for OpenSim Operators==

=Specific Issues With PyOGP Software=
'''Note:''' ''Tao... Sai... I know we discussed this a bit... but i'm blanking on what we said... so feel free to add stuff here, otherwise i'm going to add my best guess regarding how we want to handle it''
=Discussions=
*Gridnauts IRC
**Sepember [[User:Infinity_Linden/Gridnauts_2080913|13]]

[[Category:AW Groupies]]
[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:AW Groupies User Pages]]

Open Grid Public Beta/FAQ

Whump Linden — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:22:23 GMT

Whump Linden: /* General Questions */

==General Questions==

Please see [http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/07/08/ibm-linden-lab-interoperability-announcement/ IBM/Linden Lab Interoperability Announcement ]

'''Who is the Beta Program intended for?'''

:Developers of virtual worlds who would like to enable their users to teleport between their platforms and regions on the Second Life Beta Grid.

'''How do I sign up?'''

:Please send a request to sign up for the [https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gridnauts beta mailing list].

'''I'm not a developer, should I sign up?'''

:No, the Beta Program is intended for developers. Teleport will be enabled only for a subset of regions on the Second Life Beta Grid and participating developers. Your inventory will not come with you, and you'll appear as the 'ruthed' or default avatar on external virtual world regions.

'''I'm an OpenSim developer, what should I do?'''

:OpenSim's SVN trunk has support for OGP. To start, bring up a standalone region and enable OGP in OpenSim.ini.

'''I've set up my OpenSim region, how do I teleport to it from the preview grid?'''

:See the [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To| teleport How_To ]].

'''I'm having problems teleporting from the preview grid to my OpenSim region. What should I do?'''
:See the [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To#Troubleshooting| troubleshooting instructions]].

'''I'm not able to connect to my hosted region localy.'''

:See the [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To#Troubleshooting| troubleshooting instructions]].

'''Can I teleport to an OpenSim running in grid mode?'''

:Yes, you will need to set the grid x/y coordinates so that they are consistent with both the grid to which your instance has attached, and the [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations| Open Grid Public Beta Map Locations]].

'''OpenSim is written in C#, so how can I run a region on a non-Windows computer?'''

:Install [http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html Mono]. There are binaries for most platforms, including Mac OS. On Linux, use apt-get.

'''What ports will I need to open to run OpenSim?'''

:To run OpenSim in standalone mode, the default port is 9000 which needs to be opened for both TCP and UDP traffic. Most of the TCP traffic will be HTTP requests.

'''What's OpenSim?'''

:See http://opensimulator.org/.

'''My question is not answered here, what do I do?'''

:This is a wiki! Edit this doc and add your question below. We monitor this page regularly and will answer your question.

'''What Hardware Should I Use To Run OpenSim?'''

:OpenSim is written in C# instead of C++, and is not the same as the Second Life simulators. Please check with the OpenSimulator community for their recommendations.

'''When Will I Be Able to Access My Inventory?'''

'''I Don't Want Items I Created in Second Life Going to Other Virtual Worlds, What Do I Do?'''

:At this time, the OGP beta does not support inventory, and any objects you created in Second Life will not be available to avatars rezzed on OGP enabled regions.

'''I'm having trouble with the OGP beta, where can I get support?'''

:Inworld, you can ask in the gridnauts group chat. Or irc://irc.freenode.net#gridnauts. Other gridnauts listen there and are willing to help with questions.

'''Will the Open Grid be able to access my Second Life login details?'''

:OGP does not reveal or send your password to third parties. You log into the Linden Lab-run Agent Domain, which in turn, instructs OGP-enabled regions to rez your avatar.

'''How is this different using a viewer that automates logging into one world, logging out, and logging into another?'''

:"With the gridnauts viewer, you are logging into an "AgentDomain" which then vouches for you to each region/grid you decide to visit. There are currently many dozens of test sims/grids that accept this authorization process so when you leave a sim or grid, you're not logging out of one sim/grid and logging into another." -- [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]] in email.

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/FAQ

Whump Linden — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:21:57 GMT

Whump Linden: /* General Questions */

Open Grid Public Beta/FAQ

Whump Linden — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:18:14 GMT

Whump Linden: /* General Questions */

File:OGP Draft 5 Teleport.png

Whump Linden — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:33:10 GMT

Whump Linden:

OGP Explained

Whump Linden — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:32:34 GMT

Whump Linden: /* OGP Draft 3 Teleport */

This document describes and explains the [[Open_Grid_Protocol]].
Note: Currently this is just a stub, with a few thrown together diagrams.

= Teleport Flow =

Here is the basic flow for current SL teleports:
[[Image:Old teleport.png]]

<b>Fine tuning the proposed protocol and cap names after discussion with AWG groupies resulted in a unified approach for Login, Teleport, and Logout, diagrammed below:</b>

== Authentication ==
Note: Although this diagram reflects what is deployed on the Beta Grid, the OGP Protocol is completely different. Please reference the spec for what it should be.
[[Image:Strawman-login-flowchart.png]]

== Login ==
[[Image:Open grid login.png]]

== Teleport ==

===OGP Draft 5 Teleport===

[[Image:OGP_Draft_5_Teleport.png | 760 px]]

===Previous===

[[Image:Open Grid Teleport.png | 760px]]

== Logout ==
[[Image:Open Grid Logout.png]]

[[Category:Grid_Interoperability]]
[[Category: Pyogp]]
[[Category:Pyogp_Kitchen_Sink]]

Open Grid Public Beta

Whump Linden — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:31:31 GMT

Whump Linden:

{{Alert Box| Please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta#30-Sept-2008_Update|Sept-30-2008]]. We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta program at this time.}}

{{Alert Box|'''Open Grid Beta''' viewers have been updated as of 14 October 2008.}}

The Open Grid Public Beta program is a Linden Lab sponsored opportunity for developers to make their virtual worlds interoperate with Second Life. Virtual world interoperability is enabled through the [[Open Grid Protocol]], under development by the [[AWG | Architecture Working Group]] of Second Life residents.

On June 30th, 2008, a group of Linden Lab and IBM "gridnauts" [http://torley.s3.amazonaws.com/Across-the-Metaverse.mp4 successfully launched from a Second Life developer grid and teleported over to an OpenSim grid running IBM's modified code]. They arrived without any of their attachments or inventory, since the protocol does not transfer assets between grids. Zero Linden of Linden Lab and Zha Ewry of IBM [http://metanomics.net/archive080408 recently gave an interview] on the Metanomics Second Life TV show to introduce the project.

==30-Sept-2008 Update==

{{Alert Box|This has been a successful couple of months:

* Working OGP teleports between Linden Lab's regions and OpenSim regions running in both grid and standalone mode
* Over 100 residents teleporting between OGP-enabled OpenSims and Linden Lab regions.
* Resolved 36 OGP-related JIRAs
* Released and implemented a new draft of the OGP teleport specification

Many thanks to the OpenSim developers for their help.

So next steps:

* We are no longer accepting requests to add residents to the Open Grid Public Beta at this time
* We will continue resolving JIRAs opened against the Beta Agent and Region domains
* We will continue running our agent domain and OGP-enabled regions
* The gridnauts list and inworld group will continue to be available

As the Open Protocol team prepares for the next steps in Grid Interoperability, I would like to get your input.

I've opened a new meta-issue, JIRA https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3156, for recommending next steps. Read the related JIRAs and vote for the ones you would like to see implemented in a future beta. If you don't see the idea you want to see implemented, then create a JIRA for it and link it as a child of the meta-issue. Use JIRA comments to discuss or detail proposals.}}

==Key Points ==

# Testing the ability to log in to Second Life and teleport between Second Life and other virtual worlds.
# Intended for developers, not residents at large.
# Demonstrates login and teleport only, no assets are transferred from Second Life to other virtual worlds.

==Participation==

Participation in the Open Grid Public Beta program is intended for the developers of virtual world viewer and simulator software.

Developers in the program implement the [[Open Grid Protocol]] in their software. The protocol provides a communication path between clients (Second Life Viewer), an [[Agent Domain]] (Second Life preview grid), and a simulator (Second Life, OpenSim). In particular, they implement the [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | teleport]] protocol.

Beta participants will have access to the Open Grid Protocol version of the Second Life viewer, which logs you into an agent domain running on the Second Life preview grid, and allows you to rez, without inventory, on a destination grid that understands the Open Grid Protocol.

In the first phase of the program Linden Lab will work with the developers of [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim] and OpenSim operators to login to our preview grid and teleport between the Second Life preview grid, and regions in OpenSim.

In the second phase of the beta, Linden Lab will open participation to other grid and virtual world operators and developers.

This beta is for adult residents of Second Life. We are currently exploring options for participation by TSL residents. TSL residents may now sign up to the email list (adult moderated, see below). Teens will be invited to join a TSL Gridnauts group which will be used to communicate details on the forthcoming teen beta.

==How To Participate==

# We are no longer accepting requests to join the beta at this time.
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Map_Locations|Claim a space on the map for your OpenSim region]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers|Download the Open Grid Beta Viewer]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Sim_OGP_How_To|Build an OpenSim region with OGP enabled]].
# [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To|Use the Open Grid Client to Teleport between Region Domains]]

Because the Beta will allow any external regions to connect to the grid, which may or may not provide adult content, the beta is limited to main grid users. We are looking into ways for safely involving Teen Grid residents later in the beta. Meanwhile we have obtained the go ahead to allow teens to subscribe to the email list. Please use an email address associated with your avatar. You will be admitted to the list, and invited to a TSL Gridnauts group on the teen grid. Group notices will communicate the status of the Teen effort.

If you have questions about the program, please contact [mailto:ogpb-info@lindenlab.com ogpb-info@lindenlab.com].

There is [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Public_Regions|a list of public OpenSim regions]] participating in the beta.

==In World Meetings==
* '''Wednesday''', 1:30PM SLT, [[User:Whump_Linden| Whump Linden office hours]] @ [http://slurl.com/secondlife/ambleside/228/244/25/?title=Whump%20Linden%27s%20Office ambleside office]

===Transcripts===
* [[:Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta_Transcripts|All relevant transcripts]]
* July:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080723|23]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080730|30]]
** Huddle transcripts
* August:
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080813|13]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080820|20]]
** Huddle transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080805|05]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080806|06]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080808|08]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080812|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080815|15]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080818|18]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080829|29]]
* September
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080910|10]] [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20080917|17]]
** Huddle Transcripts: [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080912|12]] [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Daily_Huddle_Transcripts/Transcript_20080915|15]]
* October
** Office Hours: [[User:Whump_Linden/Office_Hours/Transcript_20081008|08]]

===IRC===

irc://irc.freenode.net/#gridnauts

==Issue Tracking During the Beta Program==

Linden Lab has created new components in PJIRA to track OGPB issues, please read [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Issue_Tracking|the instructions on how to create OGPB issues in PJIRA]].

Status of OGPB issues will be reviewed during daily huddles.

A complete list of beta issues is in the umbrella issue {{Jira|SVC-2632}}.

==Beta Timeline==

* Beta launch -- July 31, 2008
* Interop testing with OpenSim (Phase 1) -- July 31, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Changes_20080822|Viewer, AD and RD Update 1]] --- August 22, 2008
* [[Open_Grid_Protocol|OGP Draft 3]] --- September 10, 2008
* Open to other virtual world platforms (Phase 2) -- TBD
* Beta period ends -- TBD

==FAQ==

See [[Open_Grid_Public_Beta/FAQ|Open Grid Public Beta FAQ]]

==Resources==

* Wiki pages
** Open Grid Protocol
*** [[Open Grid Protocol| Open Grid Protocol]] -- introduction
*** [[Agent Domain]]
*** [[Login Protocol]]
*** [[SLGOGP_Teleport_Strawman | Teleport Protcol]]
**[[AWG | Architecture Working Group]]
*** [[AW_Groupies | In-world discussion group]] -- for programmers and technically minded citizens
*** [[:Category:Grid_Interoperability_Chat_Logs|Relevant in-world discussion and office hours transcripts]]
*** [[Pyogp| Pyogp -- Python-based OGP test harness and client library]]
**** [[:Category:Pyogp_Transcripts|Pyogp discussion transcripts]]

* [http://www.opensimulator.org OpenSim]
** [http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chat+log OpenSim transcripts]

[[Category:Grid Interoperability]]
[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Public Beta/Open Grid Beta Viewers

Whump Linden — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:30:31 GMT

Whump Linden:

==Current Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-99280_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_99280_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.99280.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Previous Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-97416_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_97416_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.97416.tar.bz2 Linux]

==Third Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-21-0-95450_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_21_0_95836_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.21.0.95450.tar.bz2 Linux]

Fixes:

* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8539 VWR-8539: Viewer Crashes when attempting to save appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2763 SVC-2763: Ghosed Avatar Prevents Altering Appearance]
* [https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 SVC-2724: When OpenSim configured with external hostname instead of ip address, teleports to the sim fail.]

== Second Release==
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-20-15-94858_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife_1_20_15_94858_OPENGRID.dmg Mac ]
* [http://open-grid-beta.s3.amazonaws.com/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.94941.tar.bz2 Linux]

==First Release==
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/Second_Life_1-20-15-0_OpenGrid_Setup.exe Windows]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife_1_20_15_90615_OPENGRID.dmg Mac]
* [http://s3.amazonaws.com/open-grid-beta/SecondLife-i686-1.20.15.93188.tar.bz2 Linux]

[[Category:Open_Grid_Public_Beta]]

Open Grid Protocol

Whump Linden — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:20:20 GMT

Whump Linden:

'''Note:''' This page references the current draft of the Open Grid Protocol.

{{Alert Box|OGP Teleport was updated to Draft 5 --[[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]] 17:20, 14 October 2008 (PDT)}}

* [[OGP_Base|Introduction]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Base_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Base_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_LLSD|LLIDL, LLSD and Structured Data Serialization]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-LLSD_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_LLSD_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Authentication|Authentication]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Authentication_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_%20Authentication_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Teleport|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_5.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_5.pdf PDF]

==All Drafts==

* [[SLGOGP_Draft_1]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/SLGOGP-draft-1.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/SLGOGP-draft-1.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_2]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Draft_2.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Draft_2.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_3]]
** [[OGP_Base_Draft_3|Introduction]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Base_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Base_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_LLSD_Draft_3|LLIDL, LLSD and Structured Data Serialization]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-LLSD_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_LLSD_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_Authentication_Draft_3|Authentication]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Authentication_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_%20Authentication_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_3|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_4]]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_4|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_4.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_4.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_5]]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_5|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_5.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_5.pdf PDF]

[[Category:Architecture_Working_Group]]
[[Category:Grid_Interoperability]]
[[Category:Pyogp]]
[[Category:Pyogp_Kitchen_Sink]]

OGP Teleport

Whump Linden — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:19:51 GMT

Whump Linden:

Open Grid Protocol

Whump Linden — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:19:43 GMT

Whump Linden:

'''Note:''' This page references the current draft of the Open Grid Protocol.

{{Alert Box|OGP Teleport was updated to Draft 4 --[[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]] 19:18, 3 October 2008 (PDT)}}

* [[OGP_Base|Introduction]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Base_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Base_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_LLSD|LLIDL, LLSD and Structured Data Serialization]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-LLSD_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_LLSD_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Authentication|Authentication]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Authentication_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_%20Authentication_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Teleport|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_5.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_5.pdf PDF]

==All Drafts==

* [[SLGOGP_Draft_1]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/SLGOGP-draft-1.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/SLGOGP-draft-1.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_2]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Draft_2.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Draft_2.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_3]]
** [[OGP_Base_Draft_3|Introduction]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Base_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Base_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_LLSD_Draft_3|LLIDL, LLSD and Structured Data Serialization]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-LLSD_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_LLSD_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_Authentication_Draft_3|Authentication]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Authentication_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_%20Authentication_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_3|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_4]]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_4|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_4.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_4.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_5]]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_5|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_5.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_5.pdf PDF]

[[Category:Architecture_Working_Group]]
[[Category:Grid_Interoperability]]
[[Category:Pyogp]]
[[Category:Pyogp_Kitchen_Sink]]

Open Grid Protocol

Whump Linden — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:18:24 GMT

Whump Linden: /* All Drafts */

'''Note:''' This page references the current draft of the Open Grid Protocol.

{{Alert Box|OGP Teleport was updated to Draft 4 --[[User:Whump Linden|Whump Linden]] 19:18, 3 October 2008 (PDT)}}

* [[OGP_Base|Introduction]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Base_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Base_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_LLSD|LLIDL, LLSD and Structured Data Serialization]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-LLSD_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_LLSD_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Authentication|Authentication]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Authentication_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_%20Authentication_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Teleport|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_4.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_4.pdf PDF]

==All Drafts==

* [[SLGOGP_Draft_1]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/SLGOGP-draft-1.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/SLGOGP-draft-1.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_2]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Draft_2.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Draft_2.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_3]]
** [[OGP_Base_Draft_3|Introduction]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Base_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Base_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_LLSD_Draft_3|LLIDL, LLSD and Structured Data Serialization]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-LLSD_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_LLSD_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_Authentication_Draft_3|Authentication]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Authentication_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_%20Authentication_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_3|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_3.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_3.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_4]]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_4|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_4.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_4.pdf PDF]
* [[OGP_Draft_5]]
** [[OGP_Teleport_Draft_5|Teleport]] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP-Teleport_Draft_5.html HTML] [http://secondlifegrid.net.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/specs/OGP_Teleport_Draft_5.pdf PDF]

[[Category:Architecture_Working_Group]]
[[Category:Grid_Interoperability]]
[[Category:Pyogp]]
[[Category:Pyogp_Kitchen_Sink]]