User:Benjamin Linden/Office Hours/2007 May 01

Transcript of Benjamin Linden's office hours:

[10:04]	Benjamin Linden:	hi Christian
[10:04]	Benjamin Linden:	welcome
[10:04]	Christian Colville:	hello Benjamin
[10:05]	Christian Colville:	nice office! my first visit to an office hour...
[10:05]	Benjamin Linden:	thanks!
[10:05]	Benjamin Linden:	let's take a seat
[10:05]	Christian Colville:	sure
[10:06]	Christian Colville:	my interest is land search
[10:07]	Benjamin Linden:	ok great
[10:07]	Benjamin Linden:	what's on your mind?
[10:07]	Christian Colville:	I've set up a website that pulls land sales information off the servers using libsecondlife
[10:07]	Benjamin Linden:	oh cool
[10:08]	Christian Colville:	its a free facility.. it lets people do more detailed searches than the in-world tool
[10:08]	Benjamin Linden:	can I see it?
[10:09]	Christian Colville:	sure its at http://www.sllandlist.com
[10:09]	Benjamin Linden:	so this is in flahs
[10:09]	Benjamin Linden:	flash
[10:09]	Christian Colville:	yep it actually uses a development system called OpenLaszlo
[10:10]	Christian Colville:	which compiles to a flash object
[10:10]	Christian Colville:	so I wanted to let you guys know what I was up to
[10:11]	Christian Colville:	plus it occurred to me that you might well decide yourselves at some point to put land search on an external site
[10:11]	Benjamin Linden:	there's been a lot of discussion lately about what to do with Search
[10:11]	Benjamin Linden:	since what we have right now isn't that great
[10:11]	Benjamin Linden:	let me play with this for a sec
[10:11]	Christian Colville:	sure
[10:12]	Christian Colville:	it updates every 2 hours
[10:12]	Christian Colville:	plus the technology is unscrapable
[10:12]	Benjamin Linden:	because it's flash?
[10:13]	Christian Colville:	well yes there are flash decompilers but I think this OpenLaszlo system produces flash objects that are difficult to decompile
[10:13]	Benjamin Linden:	I see, cool
[10:13]	Benjamin Linden:	wow this is impressive
[10:13]	Christian Colville:	thanks
[10:13]	Benjamin Linden:	does it include land auctions as well?
[10:14]	Christian Colville:	no
[10:14]	Christian Colville:	I'm thinking of putting land rentals on it next
[10:14]	Christian Colville:	auctions would require me to write an HTML scraper to get the info off your site
[10:14]	Benjamin Linden:	ah I see
[10:15]	Benjamin Linden:	I like the way when you click a link it jumps straight to that spot on the map
[10:15]	Benjamin Linden:	that's really cool
[10:15]	Christian Colville:	great
[10:15]	Benjamin Linden:	it would be nice to see the preview image that you can see when you do land searches in-world
[10:16]	Benjamin Linden:	hey Christian I have to take a phone call real quick, can you hang on?
[10:16]	Christian Colville:	yes that was a little technically demanding and would use a lot of server space
[10:16]	Christian Colville:	sure
[10:16]	Benjamin Linden:	thanks brb
[10:21]	Benjamin Linden:	ok sorry about that
[10:21]	Christian Colville:	np
[10:21]	Benjamin Linden:	so when you said it would take a lot of server space, did you mean space on your webserver?
[10:21]	Christian Colville:	yeah
[10:22]	Benjamin Linden:	I see
[10:22]	Benjamin Linden:	there's no way to directly link to the image that's on our servers?
[10:22]	Christian Colville:	plus I'd have to work out how to translate the data in a packet into a jpg
[10:22]	Benjamin Linden:	oh I see
[10:22]	Benjamin Linden:	so theoretically it could be done dynamically
[10:22]	Christian Colville:	I don't know if a direct link is possible
[10:22]	Christian Colville:	that would be ideal
[10:23]	Christian Colville:	but no idea how to get a url from an image LLUUID
[10:23]	Benjamin Linden:	yes, I'm not sure if that's possible
[10:23]	Benjamin Linden:	I could ask some folks for you
[10:23]	Christian Colville:	in my experience most images are missing or standard landowner ones
[10:23]	Christian Colville:	that would be great
[10:24]	Christian Colville:	yeah so partly I wanted to talk to you out of concern that you might sometime soon put the land search on an external website which would of course make my site superfluous really
[10:25]	Christian Colville:	I mean of course you will do what you will do but maybe what I've done could help you in that circumstance
[10:25]	Benjamin Linden:	well I can't speak to specific initiatives that we have underway of course but there is an effort to make across-the-board improvements in search
[10:26]	Christian Colville:	sure
[10:27]	Benjamin Linden:	I will definitely show your site to the relevant people. it's possible there's something we could leverage in our new search tools
[10:27]	Benjamin Linden:	tell me more about your development group
[10:27]	Christian Colville:	good that would be great
[10:27]	Christian Colville:	oh its just me lol
[10:28]	Christian Colville:	In r/l I'm a programmer I do a lot of projects for small businesses
[10:28]	Benjamin Linden:	cool. what type of programming?
[10:29]	Christian Colville:	I do asp.net c# javascript mysql this openlaszlo tool etc
[10:29]	Benjamin Linden:	great! where are you located?
[10:29]	Christian Colville:	I'm in London UK
[10:30]	Benjamin Linden:	cool. Linden Lab is opening office in Brighton.
[10:30]	Christian Colville:	oh that's a great place
[10:30]	Revolution Perenti:	hi ben :)
[10:30]	Christian Colville:	very funky and alternative, by the sea. no beach though
[10:30]	Benjamin Linden:	hi Revolution
[10:30]	Benjamin Linden:	welcome!
[10:31]	Christian Colville:	hello Revolution
[10:31]	Revolution Perenti:	how are you today, not working too hard i hope :)
[10:31]	Revolution Perenti:	hi chris
[10:31]	Benjamin Linden:	nah, just chillin as you can see :-)
[10:31]	Christian Colville:	grins
[10:31]	Revolution Perenti:	dont blame you, thought i come over for a bit now i chillin instead of coding
[10:31]	Revolution Perenti:	met most of the lindens :)
[10:31]	Benjamin Linden:	is that c++ code I see scrolling on your screen :-)
[10:31]	Revolution Perenti:	hehe yea
[10:31]	Benjamin Linden:	cool
[10:32]	Revolution Perenti:	im a c++ and php coder myself
[10:32]	Benjamin Linden:	are you a developer too?
[10:32]	Benjamin Linden:	nice
[10:32]	Benjamin Linden:	do you know Christian?
[10:32]	Christian Colville:	its developer corner!
[10:32]	Benjamin Linden:	haha yeah, this is great
[10:32]	Revolution Perenti:	no never met him, also i really big opensource fan, everything i do goes out to the public
[10:32]	Revolution Perenti:	yopu mind if i sit down
[10:32]	Benjamin Linden:	excellent!
[10:33]	Benjamin Linden:	you may have seen my mail a few weeks ago to sldev
[10:33]	Benjamin Linden:	we'd love to get more people working on UI issues
[10:33]	Christian Colville:	ok
[10:33]	Revolution Perenti:	before i found sl , i use to develope alot of game toolkits
[10:33]	Christian Colville:	what's sldev?
[10:33]	Revolution Perenti:	from game engines, graphics libs, matrix and math engines
[10:33]	Benjamin Linden:	Christian, sldev is a mailing list for people interested in the open source project
[10:34]	Benjamin Linden:	you should sign up!
[10:34]	Christian Colville:	ok!
[10:34]	Revolution Perenti:	oh incase you cant tell im not a woman hehe just my av is :)
[10:34]	Benjamin Linden:	there's lots of general discussion about developing for SL
[10:34]	Christian Colville:	right
[10:34]	Benjamin Linden:	ok thanks for clarifying Revolution :-)
[10:34]	Revolution Perenti:	guys like to play female charactors :P
[10:34]	Christian Colville:	I've not done too much C++ tho
[10:34]	Benjamin Linden:	I've noticed that
[10:35]	Revolution Perenti:	even the lindins like torley
[10:35]	Benjamin Linden:	well if you know c# you should be able to pick it up Christian
[10:35]	Christian Colville:	is that so Ben?
[10:35]	Lower Deck Doors: Jeanluc Despres is at the door.
[10:35]	Christian Colville:	sure
[10:35]	Benjamin Linden:	actually Torley will probably be by later
[10:35]	Benjamin Linden:	we have a meeting at 11am
[10:35]	Revolution Perenti:	was digging around the viewer source last night , see if i can sort some the bugs myself, also been thinking of the idear of porting it to xbox
[10:36]	Christian Colville:	ok
[10:36]	Security Panel:	Jeanluc Despres, you are not authorized to use this console.
[10:36]	Christian Colville:	you'd get hoards of users from that..
[10:36]	Revolution Perenti:	there still alot to be done by the devs but i love how far you guys have come sofar
[10:36]	Security Panel:	Jeanluc Despres, you are not authorized to use this console.
[10:37]	Benjamin Linden:	thanks Revolution
[10:37]	Revolution Perenti:	filled out job app otherday with there Uk office
[10:37]	Benjamin Linden:	wow, an xbox port would be awesome!
[10:37]	Benjamin Linden:	oh cool are you in the UK too?
[10:37]	Revolution Perenti:	yea using the openxbox sdk
[10:37]	Benjamin Linden:	I was just telling Christian about the Brighton office
[10:37]	Camber Front Door: Jeanluc Despres is at the door.
[10:37]	Benjamin Linden:	should be a fun place to work
[10:37]	Revolution Perenti:	ported many things to the xbox
[10:37]	Camber Front Door: Jeanluc Despres is at the door.
[10:37]	Christian Colville:	yeah Im in London Revolution
[10:37]	Revolution Perenti:	as long its opensource i dont mind porting it
[10:37]	Revolution Perenti:	i live next to the beach :)
[10:38]	Benjamin Linden:	do you think it's doable?
[10:38]	Revolution Perenti:	broadstairs, kent
[10:38]	Christian Colville:	nice..
[10:38]	Benjamin Linden:	I worked in Richmond for several months back in 2001
[10:38]	Benjamin Linden:	cute town
[10:38]	Christian Colville:	yeah
[10:38]	Benjamin Linden:	but I had to move into the city, so I lived in Earls Court
[10:38]	Christian Colville:	its quite prety Richmond
[10:38]	Christian Colville:	Earls Court has toomuch traffic tho
[10:39]	Revolution Perenti:	you living in the UK now bed or lindens moved you out to the states
[10:39]	Revolution Perenti:	*ben
[10:39]	Revolution Perenti:	i was living in london for a while, but live away from london now most of my work comes from the internet
[10:39]	Benjamin Linden:	actually I live in Seattle
[10:39]	Revolution Perenti:	no need for an office, even i do get shipped out ot LA and NY alot
[10:39]	Benjamin Linden:	I was living here when i started working for LL
[10:40]	Christian Colville:	ok
[10:40]	Christian Colville:	there's a lot of Microsoft offices round there I've heard
[10:40]	Benjamin Linden:	haha yes
[10:40]	Benjamin Linden:	that was actually my previous employer :-)
[10:40]	Revolution Perenti:	lo ldont tell me about m$ im a linux user :P
[10:40]	Christian Colville:	ok grins
[10:41]	Benjamin Linden:	haha I was just up at LinuxfestNorthwest, north of Seattle last weekend
[10:41]	Benjamin Linden:	very different crowd than at my last job :-)
[10:41]	Revolution Perenti:	got sick of windows in the end, never really needed it for coding
[10:41]	Christian Colville:	yeah?
[10:41]	Benjamin Linden:	I worked on Visual Studio at Microsoft. it's a pretty good IDE
[10:41]	Revolution Perenti:	linux more sutiable
[10:41]	Christian Colville:	I love the VS IDE
[10:41]	Revolution Perenti:	yes i have that too , but rarely touch it now days
[10:42]	Benjamin Linden:	that's good to hear, Christian
[10:42]	Revolution Perenti:	only log into windows for games or when im doing windows ports and testing
[10:42]	Christian Colville:	lets you do immensely complex operations very easily
[10:42]	Benjamin Linden:	what do you code in Revolution?
[10:42]	Revolution Perenti:	c++ and php
[10:42]	Benjamin Linden:	I meant which IDE, sorry
[10:42]	Revolution Perenti:	started in basic , then got qulificed in c++
[10:42]	Christian Colville:	have you heard of OpenLaszlo Revolution?
[10:42]	Revolution Perenti:	oh vs 2003 in windows
[10:43]	Revolution Perenti:	but mostly coding php now days
[10:43]	Revolution Perenti:	using linux and zend
[10:43]	Suzanne Zeluco:	hi there
[10:43]	Benjamin Linden:	hi Suzanne, welcome!
[10:43]	Suzanne Zeluco:	thank you =)
[10:43]	Christian Colville:	Hi Suzanne
[10:43]	Suzanne Zeluco:	hi Christian, Revolution
[10:43]	Benjamin Linden:	I'm super excited you guys are potentially interested in open source
[10:43]	Revolution Perenti:	hi suzanne
[10:43]	Revolution Perenti:	i saw rob yesterday at his meeting
[10:44]	Benjamin Linden:	did you come for office hours Suzanne or are you just stopping by?
[10:44]	Benjamin Linden:	oh yeah, Rob sits right next to me
[10:44]	Revolution Perenti:	trying to see how sl involving community wise before i dig into opensource work for sl
[10:44]	Suzanne Zeluco:	i came for office hours yes ... i hope not with an inappropriate question
[10:44]	Benjamin Linden:	there are no inappropriate questions!
[10:44]	Benjamin Linden:	have a seat
[10:44]	Suzanne Zeluco:	ok thank you =)
[10:45]	Revolution Perenti:	are many community contribs going in sl atm Ben
[10:45]	Benjamin Linden:	yes, actually I have some stats right here, hang on
[10:46]	Revolution Perenti:	becuase its going to be prety big project making sl opensource
[10:46]	Benjamin Linden:	34 patches by 18 unique authors have been accepted into the Viewer code
[10:46]	Benjamin Linden:	hi wishmaster
[10:46]	Benjamin Linden:	welcome!
[10:46]	Christian Colville:	that's cool
[10:46]	Revolution Perenti:	prety much what i do now with phpnuke and phpbb
[10:46]	Suzanne Zeluco:	hi wishmaster
[10:47]	Wishmaster Delcon:	hi
[10:47]	Revolution Perenti:	becuase fixed, new features etc can be done by the community in code merged by the dev team
[10:47]	Revolution Perenti:	hi wish
[10:47]	Wishmaster Delcon:	hi rev
[10:47]	Christian Colville:	I think open source is the way to produce reliable projects with the kind of scale of SL
[10:47]	Suzanne Zeluco:	i didn't know where else to go ask, with the recent changes ... and i am sorry if this is not the right forum, Benjamin ... but i cannot get any feedback on any other channels at the moment
[10:47]	Revolution Perenti:	this is my friend Ben :) support of my work
[10:47]	Benjamin Linden:	nice bling Wishmaster :-)
[10:48]	Wishmaster Delcon:	and help when i can
[10:48]	Suzanne Zeluco:	have been living now almost 4 days in a sim with time dilation averaging 0.55, and there seems to be no cure to this, and can't get hold of anyone who can help
[10:48]	Christian Colville:	hi Wishmaster
[10:48]	Wishmaster Delcon:	thanks Ben
[10:48]	Benjamin Linden:	are you a developer too Wish?
[10:48]	Wishmaster Delcon:	hi christian
[10:48]	Benjamin Linden:	Suzanne, can you tell me what you mean by time dilation?
[10:48]	Revolution Perenti:	last year ben i was involved as lead developer of phpnuke , was involved making the first release of 8.x branch
[10:49]	Wishmaster Delcon:	very nice
[10:49]	Revolution Perenti:	but after that i had alot of commercial work ended up in america
[10:49]	Suzanne Zeluco:	sim time dilation .. varying between something like 0.4 - 0.6 .. averaging at about 0.55
[10:49]	Christian Colville:	cool
[10:49]	Revolution Perenti:	but trying to get more involved again opensource wise
[10:49]	Revolution Perenti:	and being a big c++ user and sl user love to start using the code thats available
[10:50]	Revolution Perenti:	and fix or improve in anyway i can
[10:50]	Wishmaster Delcon:	i have just been helping rev with testing of a couple of projects
[10:50]	Revolution Perenti:	take a seat wish, making the place look crowed hehe
[10:50]	Wishmaster Delcon:	i wouldnt call myself a developer as such
[10:50]	Benjamin Linden:	lol
[10:50]	Christian Colville:	have to say I had a look at the open source setup instructions it was a bit daunting
[10:51]	Benjamin Linden:	Suzanne, can you explain what you mean by time dilation, I haven't heard that term before
[10:51]	Revolution Perenti:	so how would someone like me Bed submit code to SL devs
[10:51]	Revolution Perenti:	ben
[10:51]	Benjamin Linden:	does someone else know what Suzanne is talking about
[10:51]	Revolution Perenti:	i should stop with the typos
[10:51]	Benjamin Linden:	lol np Revolution
[10:51]	Suzanne Zeluco:	time dilation means roughly how fast the sim is running or processing things, that is how i understood it
[10:52]	Suzanne Zeluco:	time dilation 0.55 means the sim is kind of running about half speed
[10:52]	Benjamin Linden:	hi Vent, welcome
[10:52]	Vent Sinatra:	(hello there)
[10:52]	Christian Colville:	I think time dilation is what happens when a sim cant make the standard FPS
[10:52]	Benjamin Linden:	oh I see, Suzanne, so your sim is running slowly. are you experiencing a lot of lag?
[10:52]	Suzanne Zeluco:	well yes, constantly and is the fourth day with no change
[10:52]	Revolution Perenti:	i noticed ever since 1.15.0 release there been alot of bw usage too like there memory leaks in the kernal , but its coming from the viewer
[10:53]	Revolution Perenti:	sometimes 70 - 80% cpu usage and im on dual core
[10:53]	Vent Sinatra:	Hmmm, I have a similar, related issue
[10:53]	Vent Sinatra:	not really related...
[10:53]	Revolution Perenti:	cant even run more then one viewer anymore
[10:53]	Revolution Perenti:	use to be able to log 2 accounts on my pc
[10:53]	Vent Sinatra:	There is something happened with memory
[10:53]	Revolution Perenti:	using dual core by giving each sl viewer its own cpu core
[10:54]	Christian Colville:	the viewer is single-threaded isn't it?
[10:54]	Revolution Perenti:	now if i run 2 its like a slide show
[10:54]	Vent Sinatra:	no no, that isnt it, i tried it.... MY guess would be something in the grpahics
[10:54]	Benjamin Linden:	interesting. I'll have to check with some people to see if there are any known memory issues
[10:54]	Vent Sinatra:	graphics
[10:54]	Vent Sinatra:	everything becomes slow, but not so much swapping....
[10:54]	Revolution Perenti:	well graphics are prety hi end, im using 2x sli nvidia 7900
[10:54]	Revolution Perenti:	there more then enough power
[10:55]	Wishmaster Delcon:	the only issue regarding memory i have found is that it call for more virtual memory but that has only happened once
[10:55]	Vent Sinatra:	Its fine when you start, but after a couple of hours
[10:55]	Vent Sinatra:	whichis nothing in SL :) everything becomes slow
[10:55]	Revolution Perenti:	only thing i can think of is start back tracing some of these issues in the viewer itself
[10:55]	Christian Colville:	1.15 runs ok on my system but SL has always been slow for me it taxes my little laptop too much
[10:56]	Suzanne Zeluco:	i would appreciate, Benjamin, if you could get a grid monkey to restart Cass region ... if that could be possible ... it seems to not be fixing itself on it's own
[10:56]	Vent Sinatra:	Benjamin, who is your network specialist, there is this one issue on jira which is bugging us for two weeks, and we are having such a hard time. SOmetimes Torley Linden is saying something
[10:56]	Vent Sinatra:	but we hear so little....
[10:57]	Benjamin Linden:	I'll see if I can make that happen Suzanne.
[10:57]	Vent Sinatra:	its related to internet routing issues.....ISPs....
[10:57]	Suzanne Zeluco:	ok, thank you very much .. i do appreciate =)
[10:57]	Vent Sinatra:	Basically it is making SL impossible to use on all Californian SIms
[10:58]	Revolution Perenti gave you Revolution Perenti Bear.
[10:58]	Revolution Perenti:	thanks Ben :)
[10:58]	Benjamin Linden:	Vent, which Jira issue are you referring to
[10:58]	Revolution Perenti:	building up quite a collection of linden bears
[10:58]	Vent Sinatra:	SVC-124
[10:59]	Torley Linden:	Wheeeeeee
[10:59]	Torley Linden:	Hello!!!
[10:59]	Wishmaster Delcon:	thanks Benjamin
[10:59]	Suzanne Zeluco:	hi Torley
[10:59]	Benjamin Linden:	hey Torley!
[10:59]	Christian Colville:	thanks Ben!
[10:59]	Vent Sinatra:	HEy! Torley :))) Just talking about you!
[10:59]	Christian Colville:	hello Torley
[10:59]	Torley Linden:	Hey Benjamin, Suzanne, Christian, Wishmaster, Vent, Revolution!
[10:59]	Torley Linden:	Nice to see you all here.
[10:59]	Torley Linden:	Oh kewl beans.
[10:59]	Vent Sinatra:	Hmmm didnt expect you to look like that
[10:59]	Revolution Perenti:	hi Torley
[10:59]	Wishmaster Delcon:	hi torly
[10:59]	Torley Linden:	I change shape a lot...
[10:59]	Torley Linden:	I'm a metamorph.
[10:59]	Vent Sinatra:	cool
[11:00]	Revolution Perenti:	hehe everytime i see you , your different
[11:00]	Suzanne Zeluco:	well i won't disturb any further now, thank you Ben if you can help ... take care all
[11:00]	Torley Linden:	:D
[11:00]	Revolution Perenti:	always colorfull :P
[11:00]	Christian Colville:	bye Suzanne
[11:00]	Vent Sinatra:	You must be having a great time over there! :)
[11:00]	Vent Sinatra:	Mmm, maybe i'll sit done then :)
[11:01]	Vent Sinatra:	down
[11:01]	Revolution Perenti:	my bear torley
[11:01]	Benjamin Linden:	Vent, Torley said we're working with our network partners to fix address the issues in that Jira
[11:01]	Christian Colville:	that's a great panda av Torley (assuming it IS a panda)
[11:01]	Torley Linden:	Yes it is.
[11:01]	Torley Linden:	PANDA STYLE!
[11:01]	Vent Sinatra:	Ok , thats good to hair. If there is anything I can do for you guys. I'm online A LOT
[11:02]	Christian Colville:	lol
[11:02]	Revolution Perenti:	Torley there still seems to be issue with logins in some cases and high memory issues when sl been on for a while
[11:02]	Torley Linden:	Vent, I'm going to keep posting updates to that issue as I get them.
[11:02]	Vent Sinatra:	Happy to test, trace routes whatever
[11:02]	Revolution Perenti:	im going to start backtracing some issues tonight nad bring these up with Rob
[11:02]	Torley Linden:	Revolution: Any specific Issue Tracker #s you can point me to, or ones you reported?
[11:02]	Torley Linden:	Specific causes should be determined. :)
[11:02]	Revolution Perenti:	well right now seems to be related to x586
[11:02]	Vent Sinatra:	Torley, I understand, Just wanted to say, a lot is posted on jira and the forum... and not everyone understands how internet works.
[11:03]	Revolution Perenti:	with dual cores , memory dumps are really cryitical since 1.15.0 release
[11:03]	Torley Linden:	*nod* Always good to learn more.
[11:03]	Revolution Perenti:	i not had a chance to look at bugs and reports , as that website kinda slow to naviagte
[11:03]	Torley Linden:	Revolution: I'm on a dual-core system, what do you mean by "memory dump"?
[11:03]	Torley Linden:	If it's a paging file (virtual memory) getting bloated...
[11:03]	Torley Linden:	Oh I know that one, that's in PJIRA.
[11:03]	Torley Linden:	Sec...
[11:03]	Revolution Perenti:	like its leaking
[11:04]	Torley Linden:	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-364
[11:04]	Torley Linden:	^ look at that
[11:04]	Revolution Perenti:	more memory being used and putting alot of strain on the cpu
[11:04]	Torley Linden:	Is that the one?
[11:04]	Revolution Perenti:	yes
[11:04]	Torley Linden:	Whenever possible, it's a good idea to search the Issue Tracker and file new issues if they're not already reported so at least there's a record out there.
[11:05]	Revolution Perenti:	that looks like it
[11:05]	Revolution Perenti:	i had the problem since this release, im going to backtrace this tonight and submit some fixes if i can
[11:05]	Torley Linden:	Cool, thanks!
[11:06]	Revolution Perenti:	also torley
[11:06]	Revolution Perenti:	ever since 1.15
[11:06]	Revolution Perenti:	there issue with cache
[11:06]	Revolution Perenti:	i having to delete it manually
[11:06]	Revolution Perenti:	seems inventry issues, also friends list issues
[11:06]	Revolution Perenti:	who online etc
[11:06]	Torley Linden:	Hrmmm some of those may already be in the Issue Tracker -- Friends List is for sure
[11:06]	Torley Linden:	that's SVC-85 :)
[11:06]	Torley Linden:	Top priority for us to fix soon.
[11:07]	Revolution Perenti:	also big issue with groups, when you close a group masses of messages still coming in reguarless
[11:07]	Christian Colville:	so is that Rolling Stone article right about there being database scaling issues above 40K concurrent users?
[11:07]	Torley Linden:	Yup that's also on there. :)
[11:07]	Wishmaster Delcon:	yes i have noticed that too rev
[11:07]	Torley Linden:	Feel free to search!
[11:08]	Revolution Perenti:	well i have a nice browe tonight, maybe start contributing to sl
[11:08]	Torley Linden:	Group IMs not working right - https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-513
[11:08]	Revolution Perenti:	prety much contrib everywhere else
[11:08]	Torley Linden:	That would be lovely... thanks.
[11:08]	Christian Colville:	hi Armin
[11:09]	Revolution Perenti:	oh torley im a guy by the way, just to clear things up :P
[11:09]	Benjamin Linden:	hi Armin. welcome
[11:09]	Torley Linden:	=)
[11:09]	Torley Linden:	Heya Armin!
[11:09]	Revolution Perenti:	even alot of guys have crushes on me
[11:09]	Benjamin Linden:	well guys, Torley and I have a meeting to go to so we need to wrap this up
[11:09]	Armin Karas:	Hy Tordley
[11:09]	Revolution Perenti:	was even offered everything you can imagine once , so i prefer to tell people now
[11:09]	Vent Sinatra:	yeah, guess you must be pretty busy..... :))
[11:10]	Vent Sinatra:	dont have too many meetings!:)
[11:10]	Torley Linden:	Hehe.
[11:10]	Christian Colville:	ok have a good meeting guys pleasure to meet you
[11:10]	Torley Linden:	Have a good day!
[11:10]	Revolution Perenti:	you off hun ...
[11:10]	Wishmaster Delcon:	yes have a good meeting pleased to meet you
[11:10]	Benjamin Linden:	thanks for coming everyone!
[11:10]	Vent Sinatra:	you too torley and Benjamin. !
[11:10]	Torley Linden:	Take care everyone, good to see you.
[11:10]	Christian Colville:	oh btw how do I get onto sldev?
[11:10]	Benjamin Linden:	feel free to stop by again, every Tues and Thurs
[11:10]	Revolution Perenti:	take care *hugs*
[11:10]	Benjamin Linden:	there are instructions on the open source site, Christian
[11:10]	Benjamin Linden:	or I'm sure Revolution can help you
[11:11]	Christian Colville:	great thanks Ben