Adult Content User Group/04/16/2012

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Transcript for Monday April 16, 2012

[10:04]	Xiola Linden	I know it has been awhile - and I think the few items I have are around griefers and some house keeping stuff
[10:04]	Xiola Linden	Hello! :-))
[10:04]	Xiola Linden	Spencer
[10:04]	Innula Zenovka	Hi, Spencer
[10:04]	SpencerBlake	does anyone have voice chat turned on
[10:04]	SpencerBlake	does anyone do that here lol
[10:04]	Qie	I can hear it, but these meetings are usually in text
[10:05]	MartinRJ	hello
[10:05]	SpencerBlake	oh am i interrrupting a metting ><
[10:05]	SpencerBlake	meeting
[10:05]	Xiola Linden	Re: Griefing in the adult sandbox area in particular - we know that is a persistent problem and are looking into ways to improve tools for dealing with this type of issue
[10:05]	Vincent Nacon	yes you are! you must be jailed!
[10:05]	Xiola Linden	This is a meeting, Spencer - but you are more than welcome to stay
[10:06]	Qie	Spencer, we were waiting for you to arrive! :p
[10:06]	SpencerBlake	ooh ok lol ><
[10:06]	Vincent Nacon	welcome but jailed
[10:06]	Xiola Linden	We meet once a month here to discuss Adult content ssues
[10:06]	Xiola Linden	+i
[10:06]	Innula Zenovka	what sort of tools, Xiola, and who would be able to use them?
[10:06]	Xiola Linden	So we understand the frustrating of the griefing, and we are in communication with our support team to find better ways to handle this
[10:06]	SpencerBlake	wondered how they did that on here
[10:07]	Vincent Nacon	oh come on, Xiola, even I know that kind of answer
[10:07]	Vincent Nacon	there's no better way to address human's nature of being a "jerk"
[10:07]	Xiola Linden	in the meantime, it would be best to continue to send in tickets and work with support because it is important to get all the information that we can to better the tools
[10:08]	Zada Bury	Sorry for late ... office is hell
[10:08]	Qie	there was talk at one point of a scripting function to return objects from parcels... that would be useful, assuming the scripted object could be operated by responsible parties on the parcel.
[10:08]	Xiola Linden	hey Zada
[10:08]	Vincent Nacon	only if making another new account wasn't so easy
[10:08]	Innula Zenovka	hi, Zada
[10:09]	Xiola Linden	There is definately a lot of talk around ways to improve. Please send any specific ideas you have in!
[10:09]	Innula Zenovka	and will these tools be available to all the public sandboxes, or is this some special measure to assist the Vortex?
[10:09]	Vincent Nacon	without looking so evil?
[10:10]	Xiola Linden	It will be worked on with the whole grid in mind.
[10:10]	Innula Zenovka	thanks
[10:10]	Xiola Linden	Just seems to be quiet prominent in the vortex these days
[10:10]	Xiola Linden	sure, no problem :)
[10:10]	Vincent Nacon	stopping grieffing require a lot out of LL
[10:10]	Xiola Linden	Couple of house keeping items - we are still working with the product team on improving age verification
[10:11]	Xiola Linden	and the idea of having inworld age verification
[10:11]	Innula Zenovka	seems to me that most places that run classes and building contests solve the problem by using a group owned land
[10:11]	MartinRJ	Fayray: did you get my email about a request for a jira section for problems with adult filters and other adult related topics in the public JIRA?
[10:11]	Vincent Nacon	account creation control management with approval and more verification....
[10:11]	Vincent Nacon	and faster support
[10:11]	Vincent Nacon	so fast that soon as I press a button, a linden pop up at my request
[10:12]	Vincent Nacon	almost like it used to be back 6 years ago
[10:12]	Xiola Linden	we did receive your agenda item, Martin
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka	i don't know if this is related to the Age Verification issue, but how is the problem with traffic being misreported in the Destination Guide coming on?
[10:12]	Innula Zenovka	I saw the figures were all over the place this weekend.. and it is an issue for the Adult Hub, certainly
[10:13]	Xiola Linden	still in process, Innula. I wish I had more of an update for you on this. I do know that it is affeting all of DG, not just the adult content
[10:13]	Xiola Linden	but it is on the radar
[10:13]	Innula Zenovka	people see in the DG and it's reported as having no one there, no matter how many there are
[10:13]	Xiola Linden	and viale and I are bringing it up so it doesn't slide off the plate
[10:13]	Vincent Nacon	maybe you're picking up spirits?
[10:14]	Xiola Linden	ah - speak of viale - he may well be here in a minute
[10:14]	Zada Bury	btw ...are we in "small talk before the meeting" ... or just rushing tough the agenda-points?
[10:15]	Xiola Linden	we are going through the agenda items
[10:15]	Vincent Nacon	and I'm giving small talk
[10:15]	Xiola Linden	:)
[10:15]	Zada Bury	mmm-hmm.
[10:15]	Xiola Linden	i do have some of your iteams from Mach, Zada
[10:16]	Vincent Nacon	March?
[10:16]	Zada Bury	Yes ... I was be beaten by the day-light-saving-time differences
[10:16]	Xiola Linden	Yes, the last meeting we had
[10:16]	Zada Bury	Not only me, btw ... someone else was also 1 hour to late here.
[10:17]	Xiola Linden	one of your points was the age verification - which is a work in progress or WIP. :)
[10:17]	Marquette	i found out about this meeting on twitter, is there an in-world Group for notifications about meetings?
[10:17]	Vincent Nacon	no
[10:17]	Vincent Nacon	make time to show up on your own
[10:17]	Marquette	ah, kk
[10:18]	Vincent Nacon	it's a public meeting, meaning anyone can join.
[10:18]	MartinRJ	Fayray: you can join the advanced worlds group, there is a notification, I believe
[10:18]	Innula Zenovka	it was posted in the Adult Content Forum, and I bumped it up earlier today, but prolly not many people read that
[10:18]	MartinRJ	Fayray: but that's non-official!
[10:18]	Zada Bury	Here you can read also about: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group
[10:18]	Xiola Linden	There was also mention of the speed of the monorail - this is a land thing. We can send the feedback along. Zada - this was one of your items, I believe
[10:19]	Vincent Nacon	I use my own phone to remind me of meeting
[10:19]	Marquette	okies, i'll bookmark that, thanks!
[10:19]	Zada Bury	Yes
[10:20]	Zada Bury	the thing is that fast, I can guarantee a crash ... or see nothing.
[10:20]	Xiola Linden	zoom zoom
[10:20]	Vincent Nacon	or new grey world
[10:20]	Xiola Linden	crash
[10:20]	Vincent Nacon	and more group invite
[10:20]	Zada Bury	As "that" eye-catcher", it was announced before 2 years, I would suggest a little slower speed and more friendly sim-crossings and so on.
[10:20]	Vincent Nacon	and some other chat spam
[10:20]	Xiola Linden	thanks, Zada
[10:21]	Xiola Linden	I think the last one I have from you is about the Exploringzindra flickr-group
[10:21]	Zada Bury	Mmmm ... ok ... if we Residents see "Zoom-Zooom, crash" ... why not also LL?
[10:21]	Vincent Nacon	sim crossing should get better soon, as they got new codes in the work and might be rolling out soon in RC
[10:21]	Xiola Linden	That is an account we are still deciding what to do
[10:22]	Innula Zenovka	what's happened to Viale? he was on the roof a minute ago
[10:22]	Vincent Nacon	I banned him for being late
[10:22]	Zada Bury	Vincent ... my DSL-connection allow more connection speed than the LL-servers support ... but best you see "things" from the landscape ... try, then you will see.
[10:22]	Xiola Linden	We'll send the feedback along re: the monorail speed
[10:23]	Vincent Nacon	(no idea what happened to him)
[10:23]	Xiola Linden	he's still trying to get here
[10:23]	Zada Bury	smirks I gues he follow the landing-point I send ...
[10:23]	Innula Zenovka	there he is
[10:24]	Qie	Zada, it's not nice to TP Lindens to your dungeon. Unless they ask, of course.
[10:24]	Zada Bury	He's sitting in the "smoker edge" ... heya Viale ^_^
[10:24]	only in sl	hi
[10:24]	Innula Zenovka	hi
[10:24]	Xiola Linden	Hello! :-))
[10:24]	Xiola Linden	Viale
[10:24]	Qie	Hi Viale.
[10:24]	Zada Bury	Who say, I am nice, Qie?
[10:24]	Zada Bury	Also it's a Linden-builing with a seating place on the roof ...
[10:25]	Qie	Zada, I believe you... but then, I've never been to your dungeon. As far as you know, anyway. :p
[10:25]	Xiola Linden	we were just about to talk about martin's item
[10:25]	MartinRJ	Fayray: yes
[10:25]	MartinRJ	Fayray: :) great
[10:26]	Xiola Linden	RE: a Jira or support request type to submit problems with adult filters
[10:27]	only in sl	We did follow-up on that and adult events are enabled
[10:27]	only in sl	I see them all the time
[10:28]	only in sl	seems like a filter issue
[10:28]	only in sl	instead of JIRA - I recommend taking that up wityh support
[10:28]	MartinRJ	Fayray: well most support types are only available for premium members
[10:28]	MartinRJ	Fayray: and most members are non-premium, so these cases will still end up in the jira
[10:28]	MartinRJ	Fayray: and get closed, because LL sends them to support
[10:28]	Vincent Nacon	or maybe people are just not following the rules and working around that filter?
[10:28]	MartinRJ	Fayray: :D
[10:28]	only in sl	Support does handle all issues
[10:29]	Vincent Nacon	you gotta make sure it's not really broken as it seem
[10:29]	only in sl	and land owners and premiums get elevated support
[10:29]	MartinRJ	Fayray: basic support has only a very limited selection of support types
[10:29]	only in sl	we found no technical issues
[10:29]	MartinRJ	Fayray: like a sim-restart requesat.
[10:30]	only in sl	Copy on your support ticket Martin
[10:30]	MartinRJ	Fayray: I'm good with a support type, but you should make sure that it will be available for basic-members
[10:30]	only in sl	community@lindenlab.com
[10:30]	only in sl	thanks
[10:30]	Xiola Linden	cc: community
[10:30]	Vincent Nacon	maybe basic-member with some age
[10:30]	MartinRJ	Fayray: hehe
[10:30]	Xiola Linden	ok, I think we touched on the items I had on the agenda
[10:31]	Vincent Nacon	I don't mean RL age but SL account age
[10:31]	only in sl	waves to Innula
[10:31]	only in sl	Have not seen you in a bit
[10:31]	Marquette	do you guys have time for a question?
[10:31]	Innula Zenovka	/me waves to Viale.. long time no see
[10:32]	Innula Zenovka	you should come to the BDSM hub more, viale..
[10:32]	only in sl	Ok!
[10:32]	Marquette	is LL planning on doing any kind of advertising? it seems traffic is going down
[10:32]	only in sl	Not exactly true
[10:33]	Xiola Linden	This meeting is specifically for Adult Content related agenda items
[10:33]	only in sl	Active Ad campaigns continue
[10:33]	Vincent Nacon	better question is....
[10:33]	Vincent Nacon	where are you putting ads?
[10:33]	only in sl	How do you promote yourself @marquette?
[10:34]	Marquette	good answer viale!
[10:34]	only in sl	What is your twitter?
[10:34]	Vincent Nacon	/me sighs...
[10:34]	Marquette	@mastermarquette
[10:35]	Marquette	i'm just a concerned adult resi, i just concerned about SL is all
[10:35]	only in sl	Do you blog?
[10:35]	only in sl	In the affiliate program? Destination Guide?
[10:35]	Marquette	i been concentrating on having sex, but i can blog
[10:36]	only in sl	OK
[10:36]	only in sl	priorities
[10:36]	Marquette	rofl
[10:36]	only in sl	I will tell you this - Reg was up 50% in the 2nd half of last year
[10:36]	Marquette	awesom!
[10:36]	MartinRJ	Fayray: wow that's great:)
[10:36]	only in sl	we are currently running 20% up this year
[10:36]	only in sl	bringing the traffic
[10:37]	Innula Zenovka	that's up on what?
[10:37]	only in sl	you may have noticed at reg we have an age verfication email
[10:37]	only in sl	so the adult group is well represented
[10:37]	Innula Zenovka	i mean, 50% on the previous half year, or the half year of the previous year, or what?
[10:38]	Qie	It does seem that concurrency may be finally turning the corner, too. http://www.gridsurvey.com/charts/stl_concurrency.png -- although it's some heavy statistical manipulation behind that "underlying trend" curve.
[10:38]	only in sl	year over year
[10:38]	Innula Zenovka	thanks
[10:38]	only in sl	we continue to have issues with stickiness
[10:38]	only in sl	SL is hard for noobies
[10:38]	Innula Zenovka	/me refrains from making a vulgar remark
[10:38]	Marquette	i have a comment there
[10:38]	only in sl	and highly addictive for existing folks
[10:38]	Vincent Nacon	noobs or newbies?
[10:38]	only in sl	we all know this
[10:39]	MartinRJ	Fayray: a very high priority-issue: gmail blocked the email address that sends account verification email
[10:39]	only in sl	Thanks Martin
[10:39]	MartinRJ	Fayray: so 99% of users will never get their account verification email
[10:39]	Marquette	i noticed that there are vendors who sell and all-in-one AV: shape, skin, hair, clothes...
[10:39]	only in sl	we watch deliverability of all isps and across countries
[10:39]	Marquette	could be a lot easier for noobs to get started quick
[10:39]	only in sl	We send out seeds to all isps
[10:39]	MartinRJ	Fayray: SECONDLIFE@E.SECONDLIFE.COM is blocked by gmail as spam
[10:39]	only in sl	we will double check with Google postmaster
[10:40]	only in sl	cool
[10:40]	MartinRJ	Fayray: ok thank you viale
[10:40]	only in sl	we will fix that
[10:40]	only in sl	the 3 emails at registration have been very effective
[10:40]	only in sl	gues which one does the best?
[10:40]	Vincent Nacon	oh that reminds me....
[10:41]	Qie	oh, actually, speaking of making it easier to get started -- any word on another web-based viewer trial? The one before seemed promising, IMHO.
[10:41]	Vincent Nacon	I don't have the name or the URL but I've reported a punk gone around spamming group with a URL leading them to a fake SL login page
[10:41]	Vincent Nacon	it was yestorday
[10:41]	Zada Bury	not only yesterday ...
[10:41]	only in sl	Ok
[10:41]	Vincent Nacon	you too eh?
[10:42]	only in sl	I have been reminded that we are off agenda
[10:42]	Vincent Nacon	yup
[10:42]	Qie	(true)
[10:42]	Vincent Nacon	muhaha!
[10:42]	only in sl	I have to go
[10:42]	only in sl	miss you guys
[10:42]	Zada Bury	Take care, Viale
[10:42]	Qie	thanks Viale
[10:42]	Huntress Catteneo	there is a lot of spam scams going around in groups atm
[10:42]	Xiola Linden	Keep the agenda items coming in
[10:42]	Marquette	thanks!
[10:42]	Xiola Linden	community@lindenlab.com
[10:42]	Huntress Catteneo	worse than normal
[10:42]	only in sl	Thanks Marquette
[10:42]	only in sl	Huntress
[10:42]	only in sl	I was on vacay
[10:42]	only in sl	I am back
[10:43]	Huntress Catteneo	really?? not a ghost? lol
[10:43]	only in sl	as Xiola mentioned continue to report to support
[10:43]	Xiola Linden	I think we are on for the third monday of the month.
[10:43]	only in sl	the tickets need to show up
[10:43]	Marquette	ah cool
[10:43]	only in sl	I cannot help 24/7
[10:43]	Xiola Linden	thanks, all!
[10:43]	only in sl	bye
[10:43]	Qie	Thanks Xiola
[10:43]	only in sl	Bye Qie, innula, and Zada

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