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[2014/03/06 15:02]  Jenna Felton: hi Caleb
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Caleb Linden: whispers: servus!
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Jenna Felton: and Maestro
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Jonathan Yap: hi caleb
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Inara Breen: Greetings, Caleb
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Rex Cronon: hi caleb
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Inara Breen: Hi, Meastro
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Maestro.
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Hi guys
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Rex Cronon: hi maestro
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Caleb.
[2014/03/06 15:02]  Doc (drfran.babcock): hi, Maestro
[2014/03/06 15:03]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, TankMaster.
[2014/03/06 15:03]  MartinRJ Fayray: hello Maestro
[2014/03/06 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): So, here's the agenda: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Agenda
[2014/03/06 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): in addition to the usual updates, we have a few other items
[2014/03/06 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): the big one is that group ban is ready to play with
[2014/03/06 15:04]  Inara Breen: :)
[2014/03/06 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): the wiki has viewer links, and morris is on a supporting server version right now
[2014/03/06 15:05]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): So I'm thinking.. we should go over the other items first, then dedicate the rest of the meeting to playing with group ban - sound fair?
[2014/03/06 15:05]  Rex Cronon: sure
[2014/03/06 15:05]  Doc (drfran.babcock): /me nods
[2014/03/06 15:06]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Okay!
[2014/03/06 15:06]  Rex Cronon: r u going to ban us first;)
[2014/03/06 15:06]  Jenna Felton: hehe
[2014/03/06 15:06]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Depends on how you behave, Rex :)
[2014/03/06 15:06]  Jonathan Yap: Cool news under "Interesting Stuff"
[2014/03/06 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Okay, let's start with the less interesting stuff
[2014/03/06 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): server updates
[2014/03/06 15:07]  Rex Cronon: :)
[2014/03/06 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): the main channel got the version that was on Bluesteel and Letigre
[2014/03/06 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): no functional changes for the simulator, with that deploy
[2014/03/06 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): so I would be surprised if any bugs appeared or became fixed with that update
[2014/03/06 15:08]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Magnum stayed on the AISv3 project
[2014/03/06 15:08]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): a bunch of us Lindens had a pile-on test with that yesterday
[2014/03/06 15:08]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): the new version does seem a lot faster when you change avatar outfits
[2014/03/06 15:08]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): as before, anybody can try out the feature on Magnum with the Sunshine project viewer
[2014/03/06 15:09]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Finally, bluesteel and letigre got a new maintenance project
[2014/03/06 15:09]  rcdsQueChatLog: BilugaDeCheetos Resident, you can read the log here:
[2014/03/06 15:09]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): It just has a few bug fixes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/14#
[2014/03/06 15:09]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I suspect the most visible fix should be about the server release notes field in 'about second life'
[2014/03/06 15:10]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): it would often show "error loading release notes" in the past;
[2014/03/06 15:10]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): with the fix, it should always point to the right wiki page
[2014/03/06 15:10]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): e.g.  https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/14  for BlueSteel channel sims  on version 14.x.y.z
[2014/03/06 15:11]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): there does seem to possibly be a rare inventory lost on magnum, btw...
[2014/03/06 15:11]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Are there any questions relating to this update?
[2014/03/06 15:11]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): oh?
[2014/03/06 15:11]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): theres a few jiras that poped up this week where people lost all this inventory
[2014/03/06 15:11]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): their*
[2014/03/06 15:12]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Oh, right.  Alexa mentioned that she's investigating that issue
[2014/03/06 15:12]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): not many, mind you
[2014/03/06 15:12]  Rex Cronon: can it restored?
[2014/03/06 15:12]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): the linden inventory tools didnt restore it
[2014/03/06 15:13]  Whirly Fizzle: 3 cases, but doesn't seem to be Magnum related...not sure. They have corrupt inventories and all their inventory disappeared and the All folder from aclling cards is in their main inventory folder & calling cards folder is gone
[2014/03/06 15:13]  Whirly Fizzle: *callin
[2014/03/06 15:13]  Whirly Fizzle: +g
[2014/03/06 15:14]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): FWIW, I heard that at least some of them had been running obscure 3rd party viewers.  I'm not sure if that can explain all the cases, but it's a possibility..
[2014/03/06 15:14]  Whirly Fizzle: & yeah repair script failed for all 3
[2014/03/06 15:14]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): it started with the ais3 enabling, so it was suspected early on by us, but its hard to twll really
[2014/03/06 15:14]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): tell*
[2014/03/06 15:14]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): yeah, I think the first step will be to figure out what operations lead up to the disappearance
[2014/03/06 15:14]  Rex Cronon: could it be a new grief mode?
[2014/03/06 15:15]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): well, one of them was using darkstorm in the past, so... :P
[2014/03/06 15:16]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Rex, if a step for griefing is, "hey, run my special hack viewer!", then they can just grab your password and do all sorts of bad things :-\
[2014/03/06 15:16]  Jenna Felton: when it was the wrong viewer .)
[2014/03/06 15:17]  Rex Cronon: maybe some of the tpv r using libraries with security holes?
[2014/03/06 15:17]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): but thats not to say its related or that the others had either...
[2014/03/06 15:17]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): darkstorm is a fork of firestorm, but with backdoors added to it
[2014/03/06 15:18]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): olbviously not tpv compliant
[2014/03/06 15:18]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Well, let's no jump to conclusions.. the inventory loss is still under investigation
[2014/03/06 15:19]  Jenna Felton: i think a viewer could esy corrupt the inventory, by sending a bad message telling the sim to wipe out all the inventory
[2014/03/06 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): not jump
[2014/03/06 15:19]  Rex Cronon: it seems only one person was using that and not the others that had lost their inventory
[2014/03/06 15:19]  Jenna Felton: which can hapen by mistake or intention
[2014/03/06 15:19]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): agreed, maestro
[2014/03/06 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): In other news, Jira BUG reports are now public: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Tools-and-Technology/Changes-to-Our-JIRA-Implementation/ba-p/2519371
[2014/03/06 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): new ones at least
[2014/03/06 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): the change happened about 30min ago
[2014/03/06 15:20]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): \io/
[2014/03/06 15:20]  Jonathan Yap: Is there a bug issue we can test against?
[2014/03/06 15:20]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): BUG-5295
[2014/03/06 15:20]  Jenna Felton: i read a blog post stating that all jira posts are now open
[2014/03/06 15:20]  Whirly Fizzle: Ooooooh! \o/
[2014/03/06 15:20]  Jonathan Yap: bug-5295 wants me to log in
[2014/03/06 15:20]  Jonathan Yap: more work is needed I think
[2014/03/06 15:20]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): once logged in, anybody should be able to view..
[2014/03/06 15:20]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): but yes, I'll ask if it's intended that people need to be logged in
[2014/03/06 15:21]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Oh, I can see https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-5295
[2014/03/06 15:21]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): lol 'Six fingers per hand'
[2014/03/06 15:21]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): ^ that particular BUG is of the new type
[2014/03/06 15:21]  Jonathan Yap: If you have to be logged in it could be confusing, since not everyone is going to do that
[2014/03/06 15:21]  Rex Cronon: is ok if 4 commenting u have 2 login, but for viewing ittoo?
[2014/03/06 15:21]  Jenna Felton: can you all see this one?
[2014/03/06 15:21]  Jenna Felton: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-5256?
[2014/03/06 15:22]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): dont ask me, i could se them anyway...
[2014/03/06 15:22]  Jenna Felton: btw thank you Maestor for checking :)
[2014/03/06 15:22]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): No, I can't see it..
[2014/03/06 15:22]  Jenna Felton: than only new are open
[2014/03/06 15:22]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): yes, I confirmed that the change is only for new BUG issues
[2014/03/06 15:22]  Rex Cronon: it doesn't like that i have cookies off
[2014/03/06 15:22]  Jonathan Yap: and you have to be logged in, that is intentional?
[2014/03/06 15:22]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): if you search 'BUG' (which goes to project=BUG in the search filter) you can browse
[2014/03/06 15:23]  Jonathan Yap: Because if I am not logged in and I search for bug I get OPEN issues :(
[2014/03/06 15:23]  Whirly Fizzle: You have to be logged into viewer even old VWR & SVR don't you?
[2014/03/06 15:23]  Rex Cronon: it alwo wants js
[2014/03/06 15:23]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Jonathan, I need to check on that
[2014/03/06 15:23]  Whirly Fizzle: *view
[2014/03/06 15:24]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): https://jira.secondlife.com/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20BUG
[2014/03/06 15:25]  Jonathan Yap: That gives me this (not logged in) The value 'BUG' does not exist for the field 'project'.
[2014/03/06 15:25]  Jonathan Yap: ok, enough quick testing, time to move on I think :)
[2014/03/06 15:26]  Whirly Fizzle: You need to login :D
[2014/03/06 15:26]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): hm, yeah that's a bit confusing.  It's not really that it doesn't exist, but that you don't have permission to view it as anonymous right now
[2014/03/06 15:26]  Jenna Felton: i do see almost only open by mine. somehow strange
[2014/03/06 15:26]  Jonathan Yap: My worry is most people trying to search will not know to log in
[2014/03/06 15:27]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Well, it's only affecting issues filed in the past 30min or so
[2014/03/06 15:27]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): hm, yaeh that's a good point Jonathan
[2014/03/06 15:27]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I'll bring that up if it's not a mistake
[2014/03/06 15:27]  Whirly Fizzle: Before this change though, you had to be logged in to see anything in VWR & SVC Im pretty sure
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Whirly Fizzle: Thats why all the JIRA link doolyflops broke
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Lucia Nightfire: idt I ever had to log in to see non-BUG issues
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I can browse STORM while logged out
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Whirly Fizzle: Yeah STORM is open
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Jonathan Yap: STORM and OPEN are not restricted
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I figure BUG should be the same
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Jonathan Yap: maybe SNOW too
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Whirly Fizzle: Is SNOW still used?
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): anyway, I'll follow up on that
[2014/03/06 15:28]  Jonathan Yap: No Whirly
[2014/03/06 15:29]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): some of the no longer used repos should be removed... :P
[2014/03/06 15:29]  Jonathan Yap: but if you are not logged in and you search for bug you end up with a list of SNOW issues
[2014/03/06 15:29]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): we have more topics!
[2014/03/06 15:29]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): or whatever jira calls them
[2014/03/06 15:29]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): The big one for today is that group ban is live in this region
[2014/03/06 15:29]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Interesting_Stuff
[2014/03/06 15:29]  Whirly Fizzle: o.O
[2014/03/06 15:30]  Whirly Fizzle: OOOh viewers!
[2014/03/06 15:30]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): however you (obviously) need a special viewer to have the UI to ban somebody with
[2014/03/06 15:30]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): lol whirly
[2014/03/06 15:30]  Lucia Nightfire: oh boy oh boy oh boy its bacon
[2014/03/06 15:30]  Lucia Nightfire: or hth that cm went
[2014/03/06 15:30]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): but once banned from a group, you shouldn't be able to join, regardless of what viewer you're using
[2014/03/06 15:31]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): (although the sim you're in will need to support group ban in order to enforce it..)
[2014/03/06 15:31]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): The https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Group_Ban_FAQ has basic usage info
[2014/03/06 15:31]  Lucia Nightfire: so don't depend on it until it is grid wide when rolled out on agni
[2014/03/06 15:32]  Lucia Nightfire: else the spam bots will go toa mc channel to rejoin, heh
[2014/03/06 15:32]  Whirly Fizzle: So, ban party after the UG then? :D
[2014/03/06 15:32]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): right.   Though if somebody joined your group while on a non-groupban  sim, you can always eject them later on
[2014/03/06 15:32]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): sure
[2014/03/06 15:32]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): We have a list of known issues, to save you time in case you spot problems: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Known_issues_for_group_ban
[2014/03/06 15:33]  Jonathan Yap: I have a question
[2014/03/06 15:33]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): The bugs there are all pretty minor or are purely viewer-side
[2014/03/06 15:33]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): go for it, Jonathan
[2014/03/06 15:33]  Jonathan Yap: What if the owner of a group sends you an invite to a group you are banned from?
[2014/03/06 15:33]  Jonathan Yap: Should it be like the case where you IM someone you have blocked?
[2014/03/06 15:34]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): sending an invitation is blocked if the recipient is on the ban list
[2014/03/06 15:34]  Jonathan Yap: That is, the block is cleared
[2014/03/06 15:34]  Jonathan Yap: Maybe that is too much of an edge case to worry over
[2014/03/06 15:34]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I'm pretty sure that the owner would see "Can't invite that person because they're banned",
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Whirly Fizzle: That would mean people without ban ability could unban someone just by sending an invite though
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Caleb Linden: that is true, sending invitation is blocked
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Lucia Nightfire: I would hope that accepting invitations also check if teh target is on the banlist
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): then the owner will want to manually remove them from the ban list
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I believe os
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Jonathan Yap: I only mentioned the Owner(s) of the group, but a manual action is fine
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): 1) send somebody an invitation to a group
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): 2) ban them from the group
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Lucia Nightfire: the same as it is with enrollment costs pre and post invite adn accept
[2014/03/06 15:35]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): 3) see if they can accept the invitation
[2014/03/06 15:35]  MartinRJ Fayray: when users rejoin a group now, while the feature is not yet on the whole grid, will they be automatically ejected whe the feature rolls out everywhere?
[2014/03/06 15:36]  Jonathan Yap: Or, can you be in the ban list and also in the group at the same time, depending on server versions?
[2014/03/06 15:36]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): No, not automatically; ejection upon ban is triggered by the viewer as though you also hit the 'eject' button
[2014/03/06 15:36]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Jonathan: yse
[2014/03/06 15:36]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): yes
[2014/03/06 15:36]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): which is a little awkward, of course
[2014/03/06 15:37]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): but if you eject them, they can't rejoin
[2014/03/06 15:37]  MartinRJ Fayray: so for group managers it would be better to wait with filling the banlist until the changes are rolled out gridwide?
[2014/03/06 15:37]  Lucia Nightfire: yeah, this will be weird between RC and grid wide, heh
[2014/03/06 15:37]  Baker Linden: Martin, yes
[2014/03/06 15:38]  Baker Linden: this will only be an issue during beta
[2014/03/06 15:38]  Jonathan Yap: welll, I guess if you are in an old server version your ban list will not populate
[2014/03/06 15:38]  Caleb Linden: correct
[2014/03/06 15:38]  Baker Linden: correct Jonathan
[2014/03/06 15:38]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I would only play with the ban list for testing purposes while it's in RC only ; the ban feature itself wont' have fangs
[2014/03/06 15:39]  Lucia Nightfire: fangs that suck maybe, heh
[2014/03/06 15:41]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Well, let's log back in with the ban viewer and run some casual tests
[2014/03/06 15:41]  Whirly Fizzle: Away to install
[2014/03/06 15:41]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): ad hoc tests
[2014/03/06 15:41]  Jonathan Yap: would soeone invite me to second life beta?
[2014/03/06 15:42]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): you appear to be a member already, Jonathan
[2014/03/06 15:42]  Jonathan Yap: ah ok
[2014/03/06 15:42]  Jonathan Yap: was looking in the wrong place :)

(At this point, most of the chat went to our test groups..)

[2014/03/06 15:45]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): /me wants to know where the repo for the group banz is :P
[2014/03/06 15:46]  Baker Linden: WINDOWS: http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/baker_viewer-voorhees-groupban/rev/287613/arch/CYGWIN/installer/Second_Life_Test_3_7_3_287613_i686_Setup.exe
[2014/03/06 15:46]  Baker Linden: OSX: http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/baker_viewer-voorhees-groupban/rev/287613/arch/Darwin/installer/Second_Life_Test_3_7_3_287613_i386.dmg
[2014/03/06 15:46]  Baker Linden: LINUX: http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/baker_viewer-voorhees-groupban/rev/287613/arch/Linux/installer/Second_Life_Test_3_7_3_287613_i686.tar.bz2
[2014/03/06 15:46]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): thats not the repository...
[2014/03/06 15:46]  Baker Linden: ugh
[2014/03/06 15:46]  Baker Linden: been a long day
[2014/03/06 15:46]  Baker Linden: sorry
[2014/03/06 15:46]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): hehe
[2014/03/06 15:47]  Baker Linden: I expertly broke a backend system that has caused me to scramble the last couple days figuring out how to make this work
[2014/03/06 15:47]  Baker Linden: this = group ban stuff today
[2014/03/06 15:47]  Jenna Felton: the link is on the wiki page
[2014/03/06 15:47]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): just one back end system?
[2014/03/06 15:47]  Jenna Felton: just click and download
[2014/03/06 15:47]  Jonathan Yap: Jenna, Tank wants the source files
[2014/03/06 15:47]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): i know someoen who broke then entire beta grid testing something...:P
[2014/03/06 15:48]  Jenna Felton: ah, ok
[2014/03/06 15:48]  Jenna Felton: sorry
[2014/03/06 15:48]  Inara Breen: relogging to install and run
[2014/03/06 15:49]  Whirly Fizzle: Hmm https://bitbucket.org/baker_linden/voorhees  ?
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Baker Linden: voorhees_groupban
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Baker Linden: voorhees is just a fork of viewer-release
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Whirly Fizzle: Its hidden  ..<
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Baker Linden: yeah
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Baker Linden: it is :P
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Whirly Fizzle: Boo
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Baker Linden: it won't be soon
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Maybe you're just banned from the repo, Whirly? :)
[2014/03/06 15:50]  Whirly Fizzle: >.<
[2014/03/06 15:51]  Baker Linden: you break too much stuff
[2014/03/06 15:51]  Baker Linden: can't have you breaking my stuff
[2014/03/06 15:51]  Baker Linden: :P
[2014/03/06 15:52]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): lol baker, you know whirly all to well
[2014/03/06 15:52]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): By the way, there's some chatter in group secondlife:///app/group/1da92eac-fa03-1ea3-fe39-acffb058c90b/about
[2014/03/06 15:52]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): in case some of you havent' joined
[2014/03/06 15:53]  Marybeth Oceanlane: hi
[2014/03/06 15:53]  Baker Linden: It's pretty much the coolest group ever imagined in SL
[2014/03/06 15:53]  Rex Cronon: hi
[2014/03/06 15:53]  Jenna Felton: hi Mary
[2014/03/06 15:53]  Rex Cronon: i am curious. if baker bans himself can he rejoin?
[2014/03/06 15:53]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): cant ban a founder
[2014/03/06 15:53]  Baker Linden: you are unable to ban yourself or owners from a group
[2014/03/06 15:54]  Baker Linden: I suppose it might be fun to allow you to ban yourself
[2014/03/06 15:54]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): why?
[2014/03/06 15:54]  Jonathan Yap: For a while you could mute yourself
[2014/03/06 15:54]  Baker Linden: because fun?
[2014/03/06 15:54]  Baker Linden: :)
[2014/03/06 15:54]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): lol
[2014/03/06 15:55]  Jenna Felton: welcome to abandoned groups then :)
[2014/03/06 15:57]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Okay tank, I banned you
[2014/03/06 15:57]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I presume it worked?
[2014/03/06 15:58]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): [15:57] Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): You have been ejected from 'Baker's Testing Group 2' by Maestro Linden.
[2014/03/06 15:58]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): and the group closed
[2014/03/06 15:58]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): as in, you got ejected and can't join secondlife:///app/group/1da92eac-fa03-1ea3-fe39-acffb058c90b/about now
[2014/03/06 15:58]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): cool.
[2014/03/06 15:58]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): now.. unban
[2014/03/06 15:58]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): [15:58] Second Life: This group has banned you from joining.
[2014/03/06 15:58]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): still band
[2014/03/06 15:58]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Oops, I didn't hit the button yet
[2014/03/06 15:59]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): lol
[2014/03/06 15:59]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): goof ball
[2014/03/06 15:59]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): oh, and im still on FS, so thats a good r=test
[2014/03/06 15:59]  Zenith Subchair final p: whispers: Hi Inara Breen! Touch me for Menu. Say /1a to Adjust.
[2014/03/06 15:59]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Oh, curiously the "remove ban(s)" button is disabled for me
[2014/03/06 16:00]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): huh
[2014/03/06 16:00]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): perhaps I do need to relog
[2014/03/06 16:00]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): but its' curious since I was able to hit 'ban'
[2014/03/06 16:00]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): is this region one you can edit the list on?
[2014/03/06 16:00]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Yes
[2014/03/06 16:00]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): ok
[2014/03/06 16:00]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): brb, relogging
[2014/03/06 16:01]  Rex Cronon: ig2g
[2014/03/06 16:01]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): wb
[2014/03/06 16:01]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Okay tankmaster
[2014/03/06 16:01]  Rex Cronon: bye everybody and have fun banning people:)
[2014/03/06 16:01]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): ~now~ you're clear
[2014/03/06 16:01]  rcdsQueChatLog: Rex Cronon, you can read the log here:
[2014/03/06 16:01]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): joined
[2014/03/06 16:01]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): excellent
[2014/03/06 16:02]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): so a relog to change permissions may be in order?
[2014/03/06 16:03]  Baker Linden: correct Tank
[2014/03/06 16:03]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): might not be a good then when revoking the capibility... but that may also be just how the viewer currently works
[2014/03/06 16:03]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): that's unfortunately a common thread with group permissions
[2014/03/06 16:04]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): ok
[2014/03/06 16:11]  Zenith Subchair final p: whispers: Hi Jenna Felton! Touch me for Menu. Say /1a to Adjust.
[2014/03/06 16:16]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Maestro and Baker. See you!
[2014/03/06 16:16]  Baker Linden: Cya around Yuzuru!
[2014/03/06 16:16]  Baker Linden: Have a great weekend!
[2014/03/06 16:18]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): says baker after he left... :P
[2014/03/06 16:19]  Baker Linden: yeah
[2014/03/06 16:19]  Baker Linden: late to respond as usual
[2014/03/06 16:24]  Zenith Subchair final p: whispers: Hi Jenna Felton! Touch me for Menu. Say /1a to Adjust.
[2014/03/06 16:25]  Zenith Subchair final p: whispers: Hi Jenna Felton! Touch me for Menu. Say /1a to Adjust.
[2014/03/06 16:30]  Marybeth Oceanlane: gotta go, sorry, rl calling
[2014/03/06 16:34]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): that worked
[2014/03/06 16:37]  Inara Breen: time for bed. Night, all
[2014/03/06 16:37]  Baker Linden: 'night Inara
[2014/03/06 16:41]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): See you later everybody - thanks for testing!
[2014/03/06 16:41]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): and if you find any other issues which don't appear in https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Known_issues_for_group_ban , please file a BUG jira