Beta server office Hours/Minutes/2017-03-16

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[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): *** IF THE AO DOES NOT START IN 30 SECONDS PLEASE UNWEAR AND WEAR IT AGAIN ***
[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Loading notecard 'Default'...
[2017/03/16 15:05]  A&A Romeo Hair Darkbrown 1.1: Ready
[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Typing override: On
[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): 12 animation entries found in Notecard.
[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy's - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Finished reading notecard 'Default'.
[2017/03/16 15:06]  Theresa Tennyson: I just came back from there and found an anomaly with a navigation HUD I have.
[2017/03/16 15:06]  Mazidox Linden: Hey Caleb
[2017/03/16 15:06]  Caleb Linden: hey
[2017/03/16 15:06]  Mazidox Linden: Anyone else we're waiting for?
[2017/03/16 15:07]  NOPE (margithe): When you cross the sim border, whole terrain texturing "jumps" and retextures slightly, moving back of forth by about a foot or two. But i have to look with the default viewer too. And it's not a new issue, was the same on live mainland too. Just just happens to emphasize the rubberband effect on sim crossing extra much
[2017/03/16 15:08]  NOPE (margithe): i'll just jira it.
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Mazidox Linden: Not hearing any objections to starting, so let's get to the agenda.
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Mazidox Linden: Hi Whirly
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Whirly Fizzle: Hiya!
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Caleb Linden: hola
[2017/03/16 15:08]  NOPE (margithe): Hi WHirly!
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Whirly.
[2017/03/16 15:09]  Mazidox Linden: So, DRTSIM-323 is still going strong.
[2017/03/16 15:09]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Caleb.
[2017/03/16 15:09]  Mazidox Linden: Several of you mentioned testing it, for which we're appreciative.
[2017/03/16 15:10]  Theresa Tennyson: Is there a JIRA heading we should use for it?
[2017/03/16 15:10]  Mazidox Linden: We've found some issues, but the only one you'd see any impact from day to day was the inability to get into Morris last week.
[2017/03/16 15:10]  NOPE (margithe): I notified Casper about it, if he hasn't messaged you yet. So his ball is in his court.
[2017/03/16 15:11]  Whirly Fizzle: I failed to break it  :(
[2017/03/16 15:11]  NOPE (margithe): Well, Lucy nuked us out last week :P
[2017/03/16 15:11]  Mazidox Linden: By the way, if you find a region looks online on Aditi but you can't get into it, please bring it up here. If it says Failed to Grant Capabilities, an IM to myself or Caleb would probably not go amiss.
[2017/03/16 15:11]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): that wasn't me, btw
[2017/03/16 15:11]  NOPE (margithe): mhmm who else :P
[2017/03/16 15:11]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): idk, being serious
[2017/03/16 15:12]  Mazidox Linden: We're aware of that issue and have noted it for additional investigation and a sprinkle of pesticide.
[2017/03/16 15:12]  Kennylex Luckless: Hia
[2017/03/16 15:12]  Whirly Fizzle: Hey Kenny
[2017/03/16 15:13]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): place your bets arton or jenna will be here at the end of the meeting forgetting about DST, heh
[2017/03/16 15:13]  Caleb Linden: very likely
[2017/03/16 15:13]  Mazidox Linden: We mentioned DRTSIM-342 last week (which was entirely internal logging and fixes) and it has gone to Agni RCs.
[2017/03/16 15:14]  Mazidox Linden: Anyone seen/heard of any new issues with it so far?
[2017/03/16 15:14]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): that version I asked abotu goign to RC and was told not likely, went to RC, heh
[2017/03/16 15:14]  Whirly Fizzle: Not yet
[2017/03/16 15:16]  NOPE (margithe): (i need to bow out early today)
[2017/03/16 15:17]  Mazidox Linden: Hopefully you can stick around for at least a few more minutes
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): Oh, we're in the early testing phase of a new feature that aims to improve landowner experience and help premium members. We'll let you know when we have more to say about it.
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Whirly Fizzle: OMG tease
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): parcel windlight
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we are still figuring out the test plan, testing logistics and what have you
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): there did it for you, heh
[2017/03/16 15:19]  Whirly Fizzle: OOOh is it parcel windlight?
[2017/03/16 15:19]  NOPE (margithe): what kind of landowner, any, or just estate owners like usual?
[2017/03/16 15:19]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): would be nice, heh
[2017/03/16 15:19]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): idk
[2017/03/16 15:19]  Whirly Fizzle: Does this new shiny need a viewer change too?
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): possible
[2017/03/16 15:20]  NOPE (margithe): Parcel windlight, how about parcel ground texture controls ! That would be the cherry on my ice cream
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): if there wasn't such developer glory seeking, there'd be more shared info, heh
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Whirly Fizzle: Possible....  gah.
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I mean what is the risk of telling us what you're working on?
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you think your competitiors will have an edge on you if you do? heh
[2017/03/16 15:21]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): does anyone have the animation for the chicken dance from Arrested Development?
[2017/03/16 15:21]  Whirly Fizzle: You can tell us if it's parcel windlight.  Firestorm has had that for years  :P
[2017/03/16 15:21]  Kennylex Luckless: Parcel land texture? That would make mainland look very ugly.
[2017/03/16 15:21]  NOPE (margithe): The risk is that we say " No, you are going about it the wrong way " ;)
[2017/03/16 15:21]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): @Marg, yes that is also the problem
[2017/03/16 15:21]  NOPE (margithe): Mainland is not being made pretty by ground prims instead either.
[2017/03/16 15:22]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): once a feature interpretation is set in stone, there is little to no chance of correctings being made
[2017/03/16 15:22]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): ie, every major feature SL has gotten over the years
[2017/03/16 15:22]  NOPE (margithe): Also, lesser reason to participate in meetings.
[2017/03/16 15:22]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): slightly except bento since it had more involvement with creators
[2017/03/16 15:22]  Whirly Fizzle: Passed you 2 chicken dances caleb
[2017/03/16 15:23]  Kennylex Luckless: Well,  land color look nice, if folk can have parcel land texture it will just be a new way to land grief.
[2017/03/16 15:23]  NOPE (margithe): I've asked some competent people why they aren't here, and the answer has always been " not bothering to speak to deaf ears anymore" so that is a problem.
[2017/03/16 15:23]  Kennylex Luckless: We will see land with troll face all over :-)
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Whirly Fizzle: So this whatever it is will only be for premium members then?
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Whirly Fizzle: If so, doubt it's parcel WL.
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we'll do a pile-on when this thing shapes up
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): @Whirls, what if it is?
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Whirly Fizzle: No point in restricting that when TPV's can do it.
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Kennylex Luckless: More land for Premium users.
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Mazidox Linden: Obviously I'm new here, but where I'm from, QA is the voice of the users. We advocate in your best interest when you can't speak about something directly, and we gather your feedback so that we can make a compelling argument to stakeholders.
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Mazidox Linden: And I take that responsibility very seriously.
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): But for today, we are actually wanting to do a pile-on with the asset fetch from cdn
[2017/03/16 15:25]  NOPE (margithe): More land for premium users would be nice, but it doesn't solve the vast abandoned mainland anyhow.
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Mazidox Linden: This pile-on is gonna be a bit funky, because everyone will have to relog.
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Whirly Fizzle: OOh ok, so we need to hop on the asset http viewer?
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Mazidox Linden: Uhh, Caleb, thing I didn't think of
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Mazidox Linden: Before we have anyone download anything
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Mazidox Linden: Please verify the URL's are correct and paste them here.
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Mazidox Linden: Someone could edit the page to redirect folks :)
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group i put the links here
[2017/03/16 15:27]  Mazidox Linden: (The eternal problem with wikis...)
[2017/03/16 15:28]  Mazidox Linden: http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/asset-http/rev/324478/arch/CYGWIN/installer/Second_Life_Project_AssetHttp_5_0_3_324478_i686_Setup.exe and http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/asset-http/rev/324478/arch/Darwin/installer/Second_Life_Project_AssetHttp_5_0_3_324478_i386.dmg
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Mazidox Linden: Just to be sure you're getting actual SL binaries, and not some random BonzaiBuddy or something.
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Whirly Fizzle: Works
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Mazidox Linden: (Be right back)
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Whirly Fizzle: Ok installing
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): haven't heard that term in years
[2017/03/16 15:30]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): on that note I was going to make a clippy avatar back in the day for people to annoy each other with
[2017/03/16 15:31]  NOPE (margithe): Installer crashed my firestorm, so now i'm slightly worried
[2017/03/16 15:31]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): huh
[2017/03/16 15:31]  Mazidox Linden: Please save any logs you can regarding that.
[2017/03/16 15:32]  NOPE (margithe): got an error message that i couldn't install while running SL
[2017/03/16 15:32]  Mazidox Linden: Though, I know that if you're running secondlife.exe when the updater runs, it'll log you out cleanly.
[2017/03/16 15:32]  Whirly Fizzle: You cant install any SL viewer while another sl viewer is running
[2017/03/16 15:32]  NOPE (margithe): noes, it crashed, not logged.
[2017/03/16 15:32]  Mazidox Linden: /me nods
[2017/03/16 15:32]  Mazidox Linden: That's still cause for concern
[2017/03/16 15:32]  NOPE (margithe): should have paused the installer imo.
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Whirly Fizzle: Hmm that's fun.  I have a lot of missing objects here now
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): back on the kitten punch viewer, smh
[2017/03/16 15:34]  NOPE (margithe): i'm sorry, this viewer gives me a migraine >.<
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): another happy customer
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Mazidox Linden: Can you clarify Whirly?
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): no worries, so it crash FS while it was running and you tried to install it?
[2017/03/16 15:35]  Whirly Fizzle: Hang on, taking a screen shot
[2017/03/16 15:36]  Kennylex Luckless: I get no grid selection
[2017/03/16 15:36]  Mazidox Linden: But you're here?
[2017/03/16 15:36]  Whirly Fizzle: Mazidox: http://prnt.sc/ekvtk4
[2017/03/16 15:37]  Mazidox Linden: Goodness
[2017/03/16 15:37]  Whirly Fizzle: lol
[2017/03/16 15:37]  Whirly Fizzle: Let me relog....
[2017/03/16 15:37]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): what?!
[2017/03/16 15:38]  NOPE (margithe): so far so good for me at least.
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Mazidox Linden: Caleb, we have the capability here right?
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Mazidox Linden: IIRC 323 includes 341 includes 339?
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Mazidox Linden: (Sequential numbering is for squares)
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i think not yet
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): can't tell if thats the power of pinesol or LL cdn
[2017/03/16 15:39]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah, mazidox you are right
[2017/03/16 15:39]  Whirly Fizzle: Ok, all good after relog
[2017/03/16 15:39]  Mazidox Linden: Still, we should hang on to that screenshot
[2017/03/16 15:39]  Mazidox Linden: And the viewer logs if you have them please Whirly
[2017/03/16 15:40]  Whirly Fizzle: Yeah I'll pull out that session log
[2017/03/16 15:40]  Mazidox Linden: This is a very easy test to run at least.
[2017/03/16 15:40]  Mazidox Linden: "Can you log in? Do items appear?"
[2017/03/16 15:41]  Theresa Tennyson: I'm seeing things, and I'm using a dance HUD to shuffle animations.
[2017/03/16 15:41]  NOPE (margithe): Well, for me all rendered in instantly, but perhaps it's better to look at meshtest sim
[2017/03/16 15:41]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i recommend playing around with uploading and playing back your animation: "add sound, animation, gesture, landmark, clothing, and bodypart assets to the CDN" was the objective
[2017/03/16 15:42]  Mazidox Linden: Oh that's right, I forgot that was the other test case, was for new uploads.
[2017/03/16 15:42]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): any of the asset types
[2017/03/16 15:42]  NOPE (margithe): i seriously have absolutely nothing on this account >.<
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): you can create some new bodyparts at least
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Theresa Tennyson: Is this viewer safe for everyday use on Agni?
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Mazidox Linden: Uhhhhhh
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Mazidox Linden: It's a Project Viewer
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Whirly Fizzle: CDN change is live on all Agni now right?
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Theresa Tennyson: Is it NOT UNSAFE, I should say.
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): not it's no changed yet
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we need aditi
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh Vir aid it had
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Whirly Fizzle: At the TPV meeting
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i see
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Mazidox Linden: Only for Aditi, there's back end changes that need to be made to Agni, I think?
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Theresa Tennyson: The code might be there but turned off.
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Whirly Fizzle: Can check anyway, see if this viewer gets the new cap on Agni
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Mazidox Linden: The simulator understands how to serve assets, but nothing will offer them yet, I think?
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Whirly Fizzle: Mazidox, the session log where objects failed to load  http://pastebin.com/gSSWyKdN
[2017/03/16 15:45]  Mazidox Linden: (Please note, I'm not an Ops Linden, this is a guess.)
[2017/03/16 15:45]  Mazidox Linden: Some light reading for me tonight.
[2017/03/16 15:45]  Whirly Fizzle: Looks ok to me, but I'm not a Linden  :P
[2017/03/16 15:46]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): but you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once, right?
[2017/03/16 15:46]  Whirly Fizzle: All those "2017-03-16T22:34:33Z WARNING: LLSelectMgr::processObjectProperties: Couldn't find object 196675e5-c533-d64d-07bc-d3b6733a1317 selected." lines in the log - that's when I edit selected around the missing dance floor
[2017/03/16 15:47]  Mazidox Linden: Let's take a few more minutes to generate new assets and check that existing ones look okay, and in the mean time if anyone has questions or concerns they want to raise, let's move on to that portion as well.
[2017/03/16 15:47]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): whats coming down teh pipe?
[2017/03/16 15:48]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): not next week on wednesday i am afraid
[2017/03/16 15:48]  Mazidox Linden: Usually pipes carry liquids and gases. Unless you mean the development pipeline, in which case I'm afraid I can't say just yet.
[2017/03/16 15:48]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): boring
[2017/03/16 15:49]  Object: Hello, Avatar!
[2017/03/16 15:49]  Object: Hello, Avatar!
[2017/03/16 15:49]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY-WtRNIe9M
[2017/03/16 15:49]  Kennylex Luckless: Sadly, I need to go to bed.
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Mazidox Linden: Maybe next week you'll actually see me in that pony avatar I bought :)
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Kennylex Luckless: :-D
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Mazidox Linden: But at the same time, avatar beautification is time not spent testing [new-feature] so...
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): so you guys no likey the project viewer?
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): stop danglign that carrot, smh
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Kennylex Luckless: I need to log off, it is late here and I almost fall asleep over the keyboard
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): time not spent working on features, lol
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): all you Lindens say the same thing
[2017/03/16 15:51]  NOPE (margithe): Project viewer, or LL viewer in general?
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Simon, and Oz esp, lol
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): that's lindenist
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Mazidox Linden: I haven't been to any of Oz's meetings, and only one of Simon's, so I wouldn't know.
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Mazidox Linden: It was mostly a joke. But as always, humor doesn't work so well on the internet.
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Mazi, start by creating a profile pic
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Mazidox Linden: Oy, Linden Bears, Avatars, Profile pictures... It never ends! :D
[2017/03/16 15:52]  KennyLex: ni ni, now I also log out, sorry I can not stay.
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Mazidox Linden: Goodnight.
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): good night kenny, see you next week
[2017/03/16 15:52]  NOPE (margithe): it helps to use the software you are testing, fully ;)
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh yeah, is your bear ready yet?
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Mazidox Linden: Bear is in alpha on Agni
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Mazidox Linden: I'd say about v0.6a
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you can't be like Andrew and go your whole time at LL with a default avatar
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lol
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Whirly Fizzle: he has a proper avatar on Agni though
[2017/03/16 15:54]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i miss him
[2017/03/16 15:54]  Mazidox Linden: I will make sure to get you all a beta of my bear though, since you all help me so much with feedback and testing :)
[2017/03/16 15:54]  Mazidox Linden: Caleb, can we set aside 10 minutes next week to workshop my bear? :D
[2017/03/16 15:55]  Mazidox Linden: (Low priority, naturally)
[2017/03/16 15:55]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you're suppose to actually use SL on your free time
[2017/03/16 15:55]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): something that too many Lindens do nto bother with ...
[2017/03/16 15:56]  Mazidox Linden: You're assuming I don't!
[2017/03/16 15:56]  Whirly Fizzle: Some do though.  Probably a lot more do we don't know about using Resi accounts
[2017/03/16 15:56]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I don't see a pic in your profile, lol
[2017/03/16 15:56]  NOPE (margithe): If you have no avatar, you are hanging out with the wrong crowd.
[2017/03/16 15:58]  Whirly Fizzle: Your agni avi should be cloned over here actyually mazi
[2017/03/16 15:58]  Whirly Fizzle: Spray them... spray them all!
[2017/03/16 15:58]  Mazidox Linden: The system assumes I know what I'm doing because I'm a Linden, I think.
[2017/03/16 15:59]  Whirly Fizzle: Better hehe
[2017/03/16 15:59]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so this fetching is active on all aditi regions?
[2017/03/16 15:59]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah
[2017/03/16 16:00]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i'd do cross check between old viewer and this project viewer
[2017/03/16 16:00]  Whirly Fizzle: I only know one way to check it's active on a region.  be on the asset http viewer, dump caps to log and you'll see the new asset cap
[2017/03/16 16:00]  Whirly Fizzle: ViewerAsset URL is http://asset-cdn.glb.aditi.lindenlab.com
[2017/03/16 16:01]  Whirly Fizzle: Develop -> consoles -> capabilities to debug console
[2017/03/16 16:02]  Whirly Fizzle: So Im going tp presume, if the asset viewer gets that cap on Agni regions, it's pulling gestures etc from the CDN
[2017/03/16 16:02]  Mazidox Linden: I don't think that's correct Whirly.
[2017/03/16 16:02]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh
[2017/03/16 16:02]  Mazidox Linden: I think that's the simulator and the client handshaking the agreed upon set of things that could be sent.
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Whirly Fizzle: Hmm but the viewer requests that cap & the region sends it back.
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Whirly Fizzle: But I guess it doesn't mean it's being used?
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Mazidox Linden: Yeah, that.
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Jenna Felton: hello all :)
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Whirly Fizzle: Though in the viewer code, if the viewer has that cap it should be using it
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Mazidox Linden: Hi Jenna. Daylight Savings Time :(
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): lol
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): told you
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Whirly Fizzle: Hiya jenna
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): inb4 arton
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Whirly Fizzle: Hmm I guess can check with wireshark if it's actually pulling the "new" assets from the CDN?
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Jenna Felton: ahh
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Whirly Fizzle: I'm not sure if logs will show that
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Whirly Fizzle: Unless you make an assets that's busted to get an error?
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Mazidox Linden: You're now into the realm I won't even venture a guess, sorry.
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Whirly Fizzle: Maybe a mising from database shape
[2017/03/16 16:05]  Techwolf Lupindo: I use ngrep to look at HTTP on the network.
[2017/03/16 16:05]  Mazidox Linden: Jenna, we'll post the transcript on the Agenda page, along with the time for next week.
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Jenna Felton: thank you Mazidox
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Whirly Fizzle: Ok yeah that works
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Mazidox Linden: And, my apologies, I edited the agenda but didn't change the PST to PDT
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Whirly Fizzle: I just wore a shape that I know is missing from the database
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Whirly Fizzle: This spits in my log - I can see it's pulling it from the CDN
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Whirly Fizzle: 2017-03-16T23:05:59Z WARNING: #Wearable LLWearableList::processGetAssetReply: Wearable download failed: Asset request: failed 24dbed60-653b-5614-d578-3146f418032b
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): interesting
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): can you try it with the old viewer?
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Whirly Fizzle: It will show the old asset url
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Whirly Fizzle: I guess
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Whirly Fizzle: Lemme bring alt in...
[2017/03/16 16:08]  Jenna Felton: can you produce an asset and then delete it from the database? somehow, than it would force that error
[2017/03/16 16:08]  Whirly Fizzle: I made that shape broken on purpose to test.  I needed an error in the log to see where it was pulling the shape asset from
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: It doesn't log it othereise  lol
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: *otherwise
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Mazidox Linden: "Working As Intended"
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: So can try this on agni to see if it's pulling shapes from the CDN
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Jenna Felton: cool, than it is possible :)
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: Theres probably a much better way haha
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: But hey, that worked
[2017/03/16 16:10]  Mazidox Linden: And with that, I think we're about done. Any final questions for the week?
[2017/03/16 16:10]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): bring shineys
[2017/03/16 16:10]  Mazidox Linden: My hope is that we'll have more to share soon. No promises, mind, but hope.
[2017/03/16 16:10]  NOPE (margithe): Bring mirror shineys already. Wait, thats viewer too. Nm.
[2017/03/16 16:11]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): if Simms can have reflections then so can SL, smh
[2017/03/16 16:11]  Whirly Fizzle: Just logging alkt in to see what happens on old viewer
[2017/03/16 16:13]  中毒 (kippy.adored): Ok on non asset http viewer....
[2017/03/16 16:13]  中毒 (kippy.adored): 2017-03-16T23:12:29Z WARNING: #CoreHttp llcorehttp/_httppolicy.cpp(437) : LLCore::HttpPolicy::stageAfterCompletion: HTTP request 000001E65409E780 failed after 0 retries.  Reason:  Not Found (Http_404)
[2017/03/16 16:13]  NOPE (margithe): Also, congrats on getting the forums finally under control. Must have been a sweaty week for those in charge.
[2017/03/16 16:13]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): oh
[2017/03/16 16:13]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): reminds me
[2017/03/16 16:13]  Mazidox Linden: Thanks Margithe. :)
[2017/03/16 16:13]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i know!!!
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): what is the url I should be looking at to see what is going to be released during teh week
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i felt empty for not being reminded to post the deploy plans
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): because https://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/bd-p/SecondLifeServer is busted
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Mazidox Linden: You mean the deploy plan?
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): whatever you want to call it, heh
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Mazidox Linden: https://community.secondlife.com/forums/forum/310-second-life-server/
[2017/03/16 16:15]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): server releasesok, thanks
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Mazidox Linden: Oh! *I* have a last question
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Mazidox Linden: Did anyone ever use the region status tool from the wiki page?
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): url
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Mazidox Linden: It's super busted right now, but I was wondering if it'd be useful to you all.
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Jenna Felton: when i can not log in, sometimes, then i use the status page
[2017/03/16 16:16]  NOPE (margithe): what tool is that?
[2017/03/16 16:17]  NOPE (margithe): not sure what we are talking about
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Mazidox Linden: http://aditi.coreqa.net/gridtool.php
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Whirly Fizzle: Script that IM's you grid status reports you mean?
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Jenna Felton: when the grid status is meant http://status.secondlifegrid.net/
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh...
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Mazidox Linden: Okay, so no one has used this?
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Whirly Fizzle: OOooooh
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Whirly Fizzle: No, didn't know about it
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Jenna Felton: ah... never seen that one, actually
[2017/03/16 16:18]  NOPE (margithe): I don't believe anyone i know is using it. Aside maybe Tyche?
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh that would be super handy if it was working
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Jenna Felton: are that all the regions aditi holds?
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Mazidox Linden: I was going to maybe give it TLC if I get time, but I want to know how useful it'd be first.
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): would be handy if the regions were alphbetized too
[2017/03/16 16:18]  NOPE (margithe): Pair it together with the ability to restart a region from that page, after logging in and it will be pretty good.
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Mazidox Linden: Never going to happen :)
[2017/03/16 16:19]  Whirly Fizzle: Very useful.  Without bugging a Linden there's no easy way to find a region on a specific server version you may want to test something on
[2017/03/16 16:19]  Mazidox Linden: (The region restart thing)
[2017/03/16 16:20]  NOPE (margithe): Morris: access unknown
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): don't let it cut into your profile pic/avatar/bear creation though
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): priorities
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Whirly Fizzle: lol
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Jenna Felton: yes, knowing server version and where to find the one you need is always a good idea
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lol
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Jenna Felton: plus it should be at least one region for all released versions in one year or so
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Mazidox Linden: Hey, the bear is still a showstopper. Technically I can't ship... Me... Until it's fixed.
[2017/03/16 16:21]  NOPE (margithe): Well ok, put it this way instead- some web-based region controls would be pretty good for sim owners. As i've heard, it's not always exactly easy to log onto SL from a hospital, while a web page is slightly more managable.
[2017/03/16 16:21]  Jenna Felton: but that is about how many regions are in aditi and how many version are released :)
[2017/03/16 16:21]  Whirly Fizzle: You can already manage regions vuia a web page - resttart etc, but you need to have it set up with scripted object on it.  There's tools for sale to do just that
[2017/03/16 16:21]  NOPE (margithe): just commenting the 2never going to happen" part.
[2017/03/16 16:21]  Techwolf Lupindo: Not every internet access point support stream data well.
[2017/03/16 16:22]  Mazidox Linden: Because it's not hosted on secondlife.com I don't think we can have anything that would change the region. But if you had thoughts on things that would be useful to extract as data, I'd be interested to hear them.
[2017/03/16 16:22]  NOPE (margithe): hmm ok
[2017/03/16 16:22]  Mazidox Linden: At any rate, we'll talk more about it at a later date. After we workshop my bear (priorities!)
[2017/03/16 16:22]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): number of parcels, # of parcels that allow public rezzing and/or scriptign and/or entry, heh
[2017/03/16 16:23]  NOPE (margithe): HAHaha Lucy
[2017/03/16 16:23]  NOPE (margithe): jebus
[2017/03/16 16:23]  NOPE (margithe): and then give us that list for mainland, yes?
[2017/03/16 16:23]  Whirly Fizzle: griffs would love that  :P
[2017/03/16 16:23]  NOPE (margithe): I'm so , so so done cleaning up my neighbors parcels from graphics crashesrs since they apparently don't understand autoreturn.
[2017/03/16 16:23]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I didn't say, # of parcels with public rez and 0 return time, heh
[2017/03/16 16:24]  Whirly Fizzle: Ugh they leave crashers rezzed?
[2017/03/16 16:24]  NOPE (margithe): yeah but at least you'd have a list of places for a bot to skim quickly
[2017/03/16 16:24]  NOPE (margithe): Leave? They don't only leave, they turn on public rezzing for their "friends" and just go do something else.
[2017/03/16 16:25]  Whirly Fizzle: Nice....
[2017/03/16 16:25]  NOPE (margithe): yeah, only lucky that the object was 4 sims big, and we could catch a corner of it
[2017/03/16 16:25]  Whirly Fizzle: ...
[2017/03/16 16:25]  NOPE (margithe): ....repeatedly.
[2017/03/16 16:25]  Whirly Fizzle: ...
[2017/03/16 16:25]  Whirly Fizzle: Ok, so, need a plan to make them move!
[2017/03/16 16:26]  Jenna Felton: that is not easy to imagine :)
[2017/03/16 16:26]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Caleb, did your car get towed? heh
[2017/03/16 16:26]  Mazidox Linden: For now I have to go do Grid Necromancy :)
[2017/03/16 16:26]  NOPE (margithe): but data! data is still nice. Just not sure what we could handle without shannanigans.
[2017/03/16 16:27]  NOPE (margithe): shennanigans*
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): St. Patricks Day ref
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah, green day
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): drinks
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): beer
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I have to go
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): later all
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): see ya!
[2017/03/16 16:28]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Caleb.
[2017/03/16 16:28]  NOPE (margithe): i'm sad this meeting is so late :( always catch me on the dumbs. I have to go, bedtime