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[15:02]  CG Linden: Hi Bridie

[15:02] Torley Linden: In tha hizzouse! =) [15:02] Bridie Linden: and a Pastrami? [15:02] Zen Linden is Online [15:02] Pastrami Linden: :) [15:02] Torley Linden: Heya Bridie, Alexa, Pastami, CG, Bambers, Gellan, Harleen! [15:02] Bridie Linden: and a CG... [15:02] Pastrami Linden: moved some things around, should be able to stick around for the first 30 mins [15:02] Bambers Linden: afternoon Torley [15:02] You: Smoking Volcano hats! It's Torley ^^ [15:02] Torley Linden: it's all rezzing in... wheee [15:02] Bridie Linden: yay! [15:02] Torley Linden: hahaha Alexa, this is a replica of Mount G'al! fit to wear and all that! [15:02] Bridie Linden: Great, thx all for coming... [15:03] Alexa Linden grins [15:03] Callum Linden is Online [15:03] Torley Linden: hey Infinity! [15:03] You: Welcome all [15:03] You: for those that just arrived [15:03] Infinity Linden: hola! [15:03] McCabe Maxsted waves [15:03] Bridie Linden: Alexa did you show off our new BSI sign up dispenser? [15:03] Claudia Linden is Offline [15:03] McCabe Maxsted: ahoy! [15:03] You: today's shcedule is here [15:03] You: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda [15:03] Bridie Linden: Hey Infinity, welcome! [15:03] You: nope [15:03] You: lol [15:03] You: only a fee were here [15:04] Bridie Linden: just a fee? :) [15:04] Maurice Linden is Offline [15:04] Siobhan Linden is Offline [15:04] Bridie Linden: Hiya Ellla! [15:04] You: Hi ellla! [15:04] Raymond Linden is Offline [15:04] Bridie Linden: Well, many of you are aware of our discussions about starting the "Battery Street Irregulars" to help us (even more) with testing... [15:04] Ellla McMahon: Hi Alexa, Bridie :) [15:04] Torley Linden: i like your title, Infinity [15:05] Infinity Linden: d'oh! I was trying not to wear that in public [15:05] Ellla McMahon: wow outnumbered by Lindens :) [15:05] Samuel Linden is Offline [15:05] Infinity Linden: so don't start nuthin' [15:05] Brad Linden is Online [15:05] Simon Kline: haha Ella I was just thinking that too... *bees good* [15:05] Bridie Linden: For those who are interested in helping us do pre-release-candidate testing, please take a note card from this dispenser and follow the instructions. [15:06] Object: Touched. [15:06] Samuel Linden is Online [15:06] Bridie Linden: If you have any questions, feel free to ping me or Alexa! (or Bambers just b/c) :) [15:06] You: lol [15:06] norritt Xi: Hello everyone. [15:06] Simon Kline: i'm lovin the new features in rc 8 guys... good work :) [15:06] Joe Linden is Online [15:06] Bambers Linden: hey... [15:06] Bridie Linden: We're looking for a few good Resis! ;) [15:06] Bridie Linden: Welcome Nya Linden [15:06] norritt Xi: The clouds are sweet =D [15:06] Bridie Linden: Let's get going with the triage then! [15:06] McCabe Maxsted: thanks bridie; I was hoping to attend cg's office hours yesterday to talk about it but couldn't make it [15:06] norritt Xi: (when avatars are loading) [15:06] You: if you are interested in joining, please drop a notecard that contains your name on the display [15:07] You: and I'll add you to the group [15:07] Bridie Linden nods [15:07] Object: Touched. [15:07] Bridie Linden: Today's agenda: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda [15:07] Vektor Linden is Online [15:07] Bridie Linden: First up... [15:07] Bridie Linden: VWR-7400[c] - Votes: 25 - Mac PPC 1.20.8: Unable to connect - [15:07] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7400 [15:07] Malbers Linden is Offline [15:07] Ekim Linden is Online [15:08] Bridie Linden: I haven't experienced this... [15:08] Bambers Linden: This no longer appears to be a problem with PPC I think [15:08] Esoteric Paine is Offline [15:08] Bambers Linden: I'm running a fixed version on a PPC machine now [15:08] Bridie Linden: So fixed in next RC, Bambers or ? [15:08] Bridie Linden: oh cool! [15:08] Bambers Linden: I believe so Bridie, yes [15:08] You: fix pending [15:08] Bridie Linden: let's mark as 'fix pending' then, thx [15:09] You: got it [15:09] Bridie Linden: beer! [15:09] Bambers Linden: cool [15:09] Michael Linden is Offline [15:09] Bridie Linden: Bambers, is this the same issue that I saw, but folks were able to login on 2nd try? [15:09] Bambers Linden: that one I don't know [15:09] Bridie Linden hmms [15:09] Bambers Linden: that may have been reported on other systems too [15:09] Bridie Linden: I'll check later... [15:09] Bambers Linden: ok [15:09] Bridie Linden: kk [15:09] Bridie Linden: ok, next up [15:10] Bridie Linden: VWR-7329[c] - Votes: 17 - 1.20 RC7 WatchDog forces crash on login if wait time is longer than 10 seconds [15:10] Gellan Glenelg: the "login on 2nd attempt" is VWR-7069 [15:10] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7329 [15:10] Bridie Linden: ty Gellan [15:10] Michael Linden is Online [15:10] Timeless Prototype is Offline [15:10] Ellla McMahon: the 2nd attempt issue, I have on Windows Vista [15:11] Bridie Linden: so with 7329, I know we tweaked the watchdog code for RC8 [15:11] Bridie Linden: thx Ellla for the info [15:11] Zen Linden is Offline [15:11] Durl Linden is Offline [15:11] Timeless Prototype is Online [15:12] Lucifer Baphomet is Online [15:12] George Linden is Offline [15:12] Bridie Linden: Are those last comments from RC8? [15:12] George Linden is Online [15:12] Bridie Linden: i am presuming so... [15:13] Garry Linden is Online [15:13] Ekim Linden is Offline [15:13] Aura Linden is Offline [15:13] Q Linden is Offline [15:13] Bridie Linden: I'll ping Mani and Steve about this one, but I don't know think we should import [15:14] Bridie Linden: Ok, moving right along... [15:14] Aura Linden is Online [15:14] Bridie Linden: VWR-7331[c] - Votes: 7 - llMapDestination can't TP to Skybox over 1000 meters, which was made possible in 1.20.6 [15:14] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7331 [15:14] You: Hey Garn :) [15:14] Gellan Glenelg: this is easy to repro... numbers on map seem capped at Z=1000 [15:14] Morpheus Linden is Offline [15:14] Garn Conover: allo :) [15:15] Bridie Linden: Hiya Garn, welcome [15:15] Bridie Linden is reading 6399 [15:15] Gellan Glenelg: and I suspect it's realted to the backing out of the previous fix (VWR- [15:15] Gellan Glenelg: 6399* [15:15] Bridie Linden: Qarl Linden - 22/May/08 07:09 AM¶i wouldn't say it's "broken functionality" - it's just gone back to the way it was before this work was ever done. (the map window doesn't allow >768 z-coordinates, while the parcel window does.)¶[ Show » ]¶Qarl Linden - 22/May/08 07:09 AM i wouldn't say it's "broken functionality" - it's just gone back to the way it was before this work was ever done. (the map window doesn't allow >768 z-coordinates, while the parcel window does.)¶ [15:15] Bridie Linden: sorry for the double paste [15:15] Bucket Linden is Online [15:15] Garn Conover tisks ;) [15:16] Bridie Linden: Let's import 7331 [15:16] Bridie Linden: agreed? [15:16] You: triage? [15:16] Bridie Linden: yup! [15:16] You: k [15:16] Torley Linden: sounds good [15:16] norritt Xi: Hi Garn ;) [15:16] Bridie Linden: Did everyone meet Nya Linden, BTW? [15:16] You: Sit boy! [15:16] You: lol [15:16] Torley Linden: *waves to Nya* :D [15:16] McCabe Maxsted: ahoy there nya! [15:16] Alexa Linden tosses Garn a biscuit [15:16] Lilly Zenovka: May I sit on ur knees Mc ? [15:17] You: HAHAHA [15:17] Garn Conover: Alexa click a head [15:17] McCabe Maxsted: go for it [15:17] Bridie Linden: Nya's a new Linden who'll be helping us squash bugs and cat herd the QA team :) [15:17] Nya Linden: Hi all.. [15:17] Garn Conover: allo Nya! [15:17] Lilly Zenovka: /sitOnMcKnees [15:17] Ellla McMahon: pleased to meet you Nya :) [15:17] Simon Kline: hi Nya :) [15:17] Harleen Gretzky: Hi Nya [15:17] You: nice! [15:17] Gellan Glenelg: hi nya [15:17] Bridie Linden: (amongst other things) [15:17] CG Linden: miaow [15:17] Garry Linden is Offline [15:17] Bridie Linden: Now back to our regularly scheduled program... :) [15:17] Bridie Linden grins [15:17] Bridie Linden: # VWR-5676[c] - Votes: 5 - Wind/flying sound plays even when master volume set to minimum - Alyx Jonson [15:17] Simon Kline gives Nya gumboots for jumping on bugs as a welcome present [15:17] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5676 [15:18] Garn Conover counts the Linden - Resident Ratio [15:18] Torley Linden: oh i think i noticed VWR-5676 before when doing a sound slider tutorial [15:18] Nya Linden: hah.. thanks Simon. [15:18] Bridie Linden wants gumboots [15:18] McCabe Maxsted: I've noticed this too; only way to change it is to mute it [15:18] Torley Linden: easy to repro, and it still repros for me right now [15:18] Garry Linden is Online [15:18] Torley Linden: *nods at McCabe* [15:18] Bambers Linden nods [15:18] Bridie Linden wonders if wind sound is a looping sound... [15:18] Colton Linden is Offline [15:18] Esoteric Paine is Online [15:18] Gellan Glenelg: didn't we triage this recently? [15:18] You: I don't remember this one [15:19] Gellan Glenelg: i suspect it's a dupe [15:19] McCabe Maxsted wonders if the openal work might fix this [15:19] You: so do I [15:19] norritt Xi: Well I recently read a discussion on the Dev Mailing list where ppl stated that the wind sound was randomly generated [15:19] Bambers Linden: we already have this open I recall [15:19] Torley Linden: no Bridie, wind is filtered white noise [15:19] Torley Linden: Philip sent me a great email about how the wind sound works AGES ago and Andrew recently shared internal details of how the wind fluid simulation works [15:20] Bridie Linden: oh [15:20] Gellan Glenelg: dupe of VWR-4371? [15:20] BigPapi Linden is Offline [15:20] norritt Xi: There was a discussion why to waste the performance for that calculations since most wouldn't prolly even realize a difference between that and a static looped sound [15:20] Ellla McMahon: # VWR-4371[c] - Votes: 1 - Ambient sound not governed by Master mix - Melchoir Tokhes¶¶ * Imported - Assigned to Triage ¶¶ [15:20] Torley Linden: but yeah, there's still that bug with looping sounds not decreasing in volume if you turn down Sounds and they're already played [15:20] Bridie Linden: Good call Gellan [15:20] norritt Xi: Good question IMO [15:20] Bambers Linden: Torley - would you forward me that mail if you get a chance? [15:20] Torley Linden: that looks the same Ellla [15:20] You: thanks Ellla [15:20] Torley Linden: thanks! [15:20] Ellla McMahon: sorry I was too slow Gellan :) [15:20] Torley Linden: Bambers, if i could find it i sure would... i was looking for it a few days ago but didn't :( i'd recommend asking Philip/Andrew [15:20] Torley Linden: they have some classic stories on that haha [15:20] Erica Linden is Offline [15:21] Bridie Linden: And 4371 is on Bambers plate internally! [15:21] Torley Linden: OH MY GOSH Bambers, you must be good luck, i JUST dug it up by trying slightly different keywords in Gmail, [15:21] Bridie Linden: Let's resolve 5676 as a dupe [15:21] Torley Linden: let me send that to you and Bridie ASAP [15:21] Bridie Linden: Ty Torley! [15:21] Bridie Linden: and Nya too (maybe Alexa as well) [15:22] Bridie Linden: Next up on the list: [15:22] Bridie Linden: VWR-7365[c] - Votes: 3 - Viewer camera is reset to default location when you open a notecard [15:22] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7365 [15:22] Garn Conover: is HI on fire? hehe i keep seein smoke [15:22] Torley Linden: sure! Info... wINdFO! [15:22] Prospero Linden is Offline [15:22] Torley Linden: VWR-7365 is an old bug that Dan reported years ago [15:22] Torley Linden: it exists internally somewhere [15:22] Esoteric Paine is Offline [15:22] Nya Linden accepted your inventory offer. [15:22] Garry Linden is Offline [15:23] Bridie Linden: Ok, I'll try and search for it later and dig it up...and then link them [15:23] Torley Linden: Bridie, couldn't find Dan's, but i did see one from Branka in SL-12683... old! [15:24] Torley Linden: every time i search JIRA it's like a walk down memory lane, i know that makes me sound old. XD [15:24] Bridie Linden: Some Resis have told me how they depend on this kind of behavior FWIW [15:24] You: hahahaha [15:24] Garn Conover: lol [15:24] Bridie Linden is old [15:24] McCabe Maxsted: hehe just reproduced it. Oh, I know how you feel torley! Especially seeing screenshots of old versions [15:24] Alexa Linden feels really old [15:24] Bridie Linden is old and getting older [15:24] Bridie Linden sighs [15:24] Bridie Linden: ok, next up... [15:24] Torley Linden: :D [15:25] Bridie Linden: VWR-7353[c] - Votes: 3 - Auto snapshot now tied to freeze frame (full screen preview) now when taking a picture?!!!!! [15:25] Guy Linden is Offline [15:25] Torley Linden: and also, some have complained that opening a notecard takes you out of Mouselook (different, but related) [15:25] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7353 [15:25] Timeless Prototype is Offline [15:25] Garn Conover closing eyes in bliss to the scritch [15:25] Torley Linden: snapshot bugs have been some of the most annoying; they're often "cosmetic" but deteriorate the quality of sharing Second Life with the outside world [15:25] Garn Conover: gah u typo'd :P [15:25] Bridie Linden nods to Torley [15:25] Lilly Zenovka: hey btw, I can't reproduce the previous one with RC8 [15:26] Jeff Linden is Offline [15:26] Garn Conover: https? dnt recognize that one [15:26] Bridie Linden: thx Lilly, pls add your comments [15:26] Bridie Linden: What's that Garn? [15:26] Torley Linden: see the comments, Coco Linden explained part of what's to come here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7353?focusedCommentId=61707#action_61707 [15:26] Garn Conover: ok now it works o.O [15:26] Bridie Linden: :) [15:27] Garn Conover: i clicked the link liek 5 times b4 it would open [15:27] Lexie Linden is Online [15:27] Torley Linden: i'm in favor of resolving this as won't finish due to the more elegant, upcoming changes [15:28] You: ok [15:28] McCabe Maxsted: how about fix pending instead? [15:28] Pastrami Linden: I'm a gummy bear [15:28] Bridie Linden: I'm not seeing the exact behavior described... [15:28] Kona Linden is Offline [15:28] Bridie Linden: I'm not getting prompted with filename dialog on mac [15:28] Torley Linden: i will disclaim usage of this feature depends on your photography style, however. [15:28] norritt Xi: Re, just crashed. Thats what I call timing [15:28] norritt Xi: Seems RC8 has a memory leak that causes a crash after some time [15:29] Bridie Linden: oh noes norritt! [15:29] McCabe Maxsted: yes, it has a major one [15:29] Bridie Linden: Next on the agenda... [15:29] Bridie Linden: VWR-7204[c] - Votes: 3 - Loading time of sculpts [15:29] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7204 [15:29] norritt Xi: Just made a screenshot I'll put it on the webserver in a second. [15:29] McCabe Maxsted: if I'm on for more than at least 6 hours and try to take a snapshot I crash [15:29] Torley Linden: this is a dupe [15:29] Bridie Linden: I think 7204 is a dupe [15:29] You: this one or other forms keep coming back [15:29] You: yup [15:29] Bridie Linden: 6772> [15:29] Bridie Linden: ? [15:30] MJ Linden is Offline [15:30] Torley Linden: yeah, should resolve this in favor of, ah, VWR-5785. FOCUS! [15:30] McCabe Maxsted: definite dupe [15:30] Torley Linden: i've seen this bug a lot recently; i was at this badass, very trippy gothic castle, and had to keep selecting sculpties to get them to load, exactly what's described in VWR-5785. [15:30] Bridie Linden: dupe of 6772 which is already imported and assigned to Qarl [15:31] You: k [15:31] Kona Linden is Online [15:31] Torley Linden: yeah, then VWR-5785 should be resolved in favor of 6772 since that's already imported. [15:31] Torley Linden: sometimes dupe-tracking can be a labyrinth. [15:31] You: yes [15:31] Torley Linden: or wait, hmmm VWR-5785 is already imported too and has more votes. spoke too soon. [15:31] You: that's why I have a master list of Common Pjiras :p [15:32] Torley Linden: nice one Alexa :) [15:32] Bridie Linden: ok, i linked up the internal issues [15:32] You: thanks Bridie [15:32] Torley Linden: thanks Alexa and Bridie [15:32] Bridie Linden: thx all [15:32] Morris Vig: Greetings all. Thanks for posting the Twitter on this, Torley. [15:32] Torley Linden: and for those of you who wanna visit a really creepy, awesome castle... http://www.flickr.com/photos/torley/2528629895/ [15:32] Torley Linden: you're welcome, Morris! [15:32] Siobhan OFlynn is Online [15:33] Bridie Linden: We talked about 6984 before...I know that Tofu is keeping an eye on it... [15:33] Tofu Linden is Online [15:33] norritt Xi: Okay thats what just happened to me: http://norritt.bytefortress.de/sl/1_20_rc8_memleak.jpg [15:33] Garn Conover: >.< linked names need to be hidden when not main screen [15:33] Garn Conover: Torley u got a lm of it? [15:33] Torley Linden: Garn, click VISIT link on the picture for SLURL. [15:33] Torley Linden: norritt, yes, that predates RC8... it's been a problem for awhile. i believe Steve was collating those awhile back. [15:34] norritt Xi: Though that seemd to be fine with RC7 or RC6 IIRC [15:34] Bridie Linden is looking @ the agenda [15:34] norritt Xi: So the leak was introduced with one of the latest cahnges again. [15:34] Guy Linden is Online [15:34] norritt Xi: changes even [15:34] Bridie Linden: We also talked about 7105 before...so let's keep moving [15:34] Torley Linden: norritt, i get that message often when i'm simply in Second Life for a long time. [15:35] Bridie Linden apologizes for not scrubbing agenda! [15:35] Red Linden is Online [15:35] Bridie Linden: Next [15:35] Bridie Linden: VWR-6839[c] - Votes: 2 - nvidia forceware 174 driver crashes with 1.19.1.4 and 1.20 RCs - [15:35] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6839 [15:35] Pastrami Linden: checking [15:35] Garn Conover: isn't it 164? [15:36] Garn Conover: i use that version i believe w/ no issues [15:36] norritt Xi: I've never ever had probs with that [15:36] Pastrami Linden: Nvidia's repsonse is interesting.. [15:36] norritt Xi: I'm running 174.74 [15:36] Garn Conover: Bridie thats an old 6343 link [15:37] Bridie Linden nods to Pastrami [15:37] Ellla McMahon: it was an issue relating to the HP version of 174 [15:37] Stella Linden is Online [15:37] Pastrami Linden: This one might be worth them trying the enxt release- [15:37] Ellla McMahon: I have updated again (I went back to old driver) [15:37] Pastrami Linden: if theyir beta 174.93 is working [15:37] Pastrami Linden: by release I meant NV's drivers [15:37] norritt Xi: Hmm then it might even be another HP / XP SP3 related bug [15:38] Ellla McMahon: it seems Ok so far (/me crosses fingers and toes !!! LOL) [15:38] McCabe Maxsted: they're on vista though [15:38] Bridie Linden: Garn is right, it's on the list of issues with VWR-6343 [15:38] Tofu Linden is Offline [15:38] Siobhan OFlynn is Offline [15:38] Bridie Linden: Let's leave it as such [15:38] Bridie Linden: Next up [15:38] Garn Conover: now i dunno when it was linked so it might be newer but there are no dates [15:39] Bridie Linden: VWR-6924[c] - Votes: 2 - Map slows viewer to a crawl, induces camera/avatar rotation [15:39] Dan Linden is Online [15:39] Garn Conover: nm there they are heh [15:39] Oreh Linden is Offline [15:39] Ellla McMahon: I would give it a few days and then may tha issue can be closed [15:39] Light: off [15:39] Guy Linden is Offline [15:39] Garn Conover: its a month old issue [15:39] Torley Linden: map doing this isn't an altogether new issue... [15:39] Torley Linden: we used to have more problems where opening World Map would disconnect you. [15:40] Flight Band: All Go [15:40] Torley Linden: i can't repro this one right now, even when trying to load many map tiles. [15:41] Bridie Linden can't repro either [15:41] Gellan Glenelg: nor me [15:41] Bridie Linden: anyone on XP and/or Nvidia? [15:41] Morris Vig: XP [15:41] Gellan Glenelg: i'm on XP [15:41] McCabe Maxsted: xp [15:41] Bridie Linden: can u repro 6924? [15:41] Torley Linden: i'm on XP with Nvidia [15:41] Garn Conover: only time i twirl is when something is against my spacenav lol [15:41] Blue Linden is Online [15:41] Torley Linden: 6924 isn't reproing for me... [15:41] norritt Xi: Yes I'm on XP / nVidia too [15:41] Blue Linden is Offline [15:41] Garn Conover: me 3! [15:41] McCabe Maxsted: I've had the slowness occasionally happen before, but don't see a repro for the rotating [15:41] Bridie Linden: kk, let's resolve as 'can't repro' [15:41] Torley Linden: these kind of "slows FPS" bugs i'd like to see more videos for... [15:41] Bridie Linden: thx all [15:41] You: ok [15:41] Blue Linden is Online [15:42] Garn Conover: i get steadsy 5 fps lmao [15:42] Bridie Linden: Dan Linden has been making some videos to show bugs - very helpful [15:42] Garn Conover: oof [15:42] Lilly Zenovka: ah, torley, the "slow fps" bugs are REALLY annoying.. [15:42] norritt Xi: I'll check - just JIRA is taking ages to load for me today [15:42] Torley Linden: yeah, Dan taught me about Camtasia way back... [15:42] Torley Linden: and i learned from him and started doing video tutorials... [15:42] Torley Linden: and now you know the rest of the story [15:42] Torley Linden: :D [15:42] Bridie Linden: over 150 videos now Torley?? [15:42] Flight Band: All Go [15:42] Torley Linden: yeah nearing 200, i have another 2-dozen or so in various stages Bridie [15:43] Bridie Linden: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Video_Tutorials [15:43] Torley Linden: and another 16 quick tips will appear on http://blog.secondlife.com today =) [15:43] Pastrami Linden: yeah Torley I'll soon have some cool gfx for you [15:43] Torley Linden: thanx! hehe easy link, http://secondlife.com/video [15:43] Torley Linden: wicked Pastrami [15:43] Morris Vig: wow - 2 viewer crashes since dropping in on you folks. This is rough. [15:43] Pastrami Linden: Bub and I are closing in on some finals [15:43] norritt Xi: Okay if I open both map and minimap viewer fps is reduced about 2 - 3 fps for me. [15:43] Torley Linden: cool beans, i <3 sweet design [15:43] You: its our mighty powar! [15:43] Pastrami Linden: :) [15:43] norritt Xi: So that I'm at 18 - 20 fps here - so for me no repro of that [15:44] Morris Vig: 11-13 fps [15:44] You: Hi Day :) [15:44] Lilly Zenovka: 6fps :( [15:44] Garn Conover: i need to find a way to boost my fps lol [15:44] Callum Linden is Offline [15:44] McCabe Maxsted: okay [15:44] Samuel Linden is Offline [15:44] norritt Xi: Might be related to the slower system of the person reporting [15:44] Tess Linden is Offline [15:44] McCabe Maxsted: try moving te map flaoter around [15:44] Bridie Linden nods [15:44] Garn Conover: 3.7 Lilly lol i win [15:44] McCabe Maxsted: every second of moving it is another drop in the fps [15:44] norritt Xi: Maybe the map impacts more with his hardware config [15:44] Lucifer Baphomet is Offline [15:44] Lilly Zenovka: but on my hardware it's insane [15:44] Torley Linden: we look so awesome here at night with WindLight... [15:44] Torley Linden: i remember a time before WL! that was quaint! [15:44] Bridie Linden: Did we talk about 6848 last week? it's already linked to meta issue [15:45] You: hahaha [15:45] Plexus Linden is Offline [15:45] Bridie Linden: Same for 6740, right Alexa? [15:45] Lucifer Baphomet is Online [15:45] McCabe Maxsted dropped down to 2 fps by doing that [15:45] Garn Conover: WL makes me look better [15:45] norritt Xi: Torley? I guess you're the SN expert here? [15:45] Dan Linden is Offline [15:45] You: I belive so [15:45] You: opening [15:46] Johan Linden is Offline [15:46] Torley Linden: norritt, i haven't tried to repro this myself [15:46] Bridie Linden: I'm skipping down to 7406 on the agenda [15:46] Bridie Linden: VWR-7406[c] - Votes: 2 - Strange camera behavior - [15:46] Morris Vig: Torley, Callipygian Christensen, one of SL's best photographers, can't use WL at all. Crashes her Mac every time. [15:46] Torley Linden: i DO have another game controller but didn't plug both in at same time (out of USB ports) [15:46] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7406 [15:46] Torley Linden: Morris: so SL runs with Atmospheric Shaders off for her, but not on? [15:46] Guy Linden is Online [15:46] Garn Conover: they never give u enought ports these days [15:47] Bridie Linden: 7406 with a whopping 2 votes... [15:47] Morris Vig: I'm not sure exactly, Torley. I just know that WL is toxic for her system. [15:47] Bridie Linden: I think 7406 needs more info [15:47] You: ok [15:47] Morris Vig is not a techie. Just wants a lag-free grid and a viewer that runs well. [15:47] McCabe Maxsted: I assume this is the camera bouncing off invisible textures etc; I'd resolve as needs more info [15:47] Gellan Glenelg: is this a change in camera behaveour, or a change to unsit? [15:47] Kona Linden is Offline [15:48] Bridie Linden: not sure [15:48] Garn Conover: 7406 is confusing [15:48] Torley Linden: yeah, this needs more info :| [15:48] Torley Linden: could be one of a number of things [15:48] Bridie Linden: It's a mystery! [15:48] Bridie Linden: Havok4? [15:48] Torley Linden: "strange camera behavior" bugs are PRIME candidates for doing videos [15:48] Joppa Linden is Offline [15:48] Torley Linden: it's hard to describe the path of a camera, let alone describe quaternions to a bystander [15:48] McCabe Maxsted: yeah, it's made after h4 hit the grid [15:48] Bridie Linden: Next up [15:48] Bridie Linden: # VWR-7413[c] - Votes: 2 - AV, Shape, Skin, Eyes, Cloths, Hair not loading all i see is a white ball and my bling nothing more. - romee georgia [15:48] McCabe Maxsted: ah, quaternions, grr! [15:49] Stella Linden is Offline [15:49] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7413 [15:49] McCabe Maxsted: so useful yet so frustrating [15:49] You: lol [15:49] Garn Conover: lol Ruth! [15:49] norritt Xi: I like the clouds =D [15:49] You: that Poof! [15:49] You: +1 [15:49] Bridie Linden: Ruth vs. Poof! [15:49] Garn Conover: i love the new Ruth [15:49] You: poof wins! [15:49] Gellan Glenelg: dupe of the original of VWR-7355 ? (ramzi changes it to a feature request) [15:49] Torley Linden: RUTH DIED AND WE ARE HAPPY [15:49] norritt Xi: Yes definitly [15:49] Torley Linden: hahaha [15:49] Bridie Linden: Resolve, pls [15:49] Garn Conover: defiantly [15:49] You: will do :) [15:49] Torley Linden: yeah, VWR-7413 should be resolved as a misunderstanding [15:49] Enus Linden is Offline [15:49] Pastrami Linden: hehe [15:49] McCabe Maxsted: another candidate for a "not a bug" resolution [15:49] Morris Vig misses Ruth in an instant nostalgia kinda way [15:49] Pastrami Linden: aren't all these bugs just one big miunderstanding [15:50] Pastrami Linden: ? [15:50] Torley Linden: "Misfiled" is the closest we have to that, McCabe. [15:50] Torley Linden: hahahaha Pastrami. [15:50] You: yup [15:50] Torley Linden: "you misunderstand me! i deserve to live! i am not a bug! i am a misunderstood feature!" [15:50] Bridie Linden: next [15:50] Garn Conover: ever since the new ruth i never noticed hiow many times u go into that form [15:50] McCabe Maxsted: me and lex have been wanting one for a while ;) [15:50] McCabe Maxsted laughs [15:50] Enus Linden is Online [15:50] Infinity Linden thinks we should have a jira tag called "NOSTALGIA" [15:50] norritt Xi: Ther could be a blog post about the new ruth: "When your spirit overtakes the asset server" ;) [15:50] Torley Linden: haha Infinity, like the days we wore BOXES on our heads! [15:50] Bridie Linden laughs [15:50] Torley Linden: norritt, i sense machinima potential [15:51] You: hahahaha [15:51] Kghia Gherardi: ghost in the machine [15:51] norritt Xi: *g* [15:51] Bridie Linden: ok, time for one more? [15:51] Bridie Linden: # VWR-7245[c] - Votes: 2 - Crash causes loss of object and group offers, IMs, group notices - Vex Streeter [15:51] You: yup [15:51] Pastrami Linden: I gotta run soon [15:51] Bridie Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7245 [15:51] McCabe Maxsted: machinima idea: a gang of ghostbuster avs hit a welcome area [15:51] McCabe Maxsted: oh, this is highly annoying [15:51] Garn Conover has a purple Werepoodle av? [15:51] You: yup [15:51] Plexus Linden is Online [15:52] norritt Xi: ybe pastrami [15:52] norritt Xi: Bye even [15:52] Morris Vig wants the smoke to be black like on LOST [15:52] McCabe Maxsted: is this part of mablers and q's project? [15:52] Garn Conover will have to remember to wear said av next week [15:52] McCabe Maxsted: *malbers [15:52] Torley Linden: there are workarounds for some of this... i agree crashes are generally frustrating but let's look at the specifics here... [15:52] Torley Linden: "unlogged IMs are lost" - which is why you should turn on chat logging to capture them! [15:52] Joppa Linden is Online [15:52] Torley Linden: unread group notices can be retrieved via the group archives [15:52] Bridie Linden: Could you post a comment Torley? [15:52] Torley Linden: suuuuure :D [15:53] Kona Linden is Online [15:53] Beast Linden is Online [15:53] Torley Linden: this doesn't sound very actionable, more like a "nice to have" imho [15:53] Bridie Linden: Is this more of a feature request? [15:53] Torley Linden: i would say so Bridie [15:53] Bridie Linden nods [15:53] Bridie Linden: Cool [15:53] Morris Vig: Is that really a customer-responsive answer? Is it the customer's obligation to take these steps? Or can the system be tweaked to address their concerns? [15:53] McCabe Maxsted: but you have to know they're there to look for them, and if you crash... [15:53] norritt Xi: Yeah though it might not bee too important. As torley said you can easily get the information back [15:53] McCabe Maxsted: I think you should forward it to malbers [15:53] Morris Vig: I mean, they didn't ask for the system to crash... [15:53] McCabe Maxsted: he's working on alert redesigning [15:54] Dore Linden is Online [15:54] norritt Xi: Plus the newer viewers show the log of the last IM session in grey when you open the contact in IM again. [15:54] Torley Linden: yes, true @ Morris and McCabe... but also, there are Residents who deliberately quit in order to avoid incoming onslaughts of offers and such -- that'd fall into Notifications too [15:54] Morris Vig: Gotta run, dinner time. Thanks for the chance to pipe in. [15:54] Torley Linden: norritt: yeah that bugged me for awhile :) [15:54] Bridie Linden: Morris, we want to give the Resi a work around... [15:54] McCabe Maxsted: take care morris [15:54] Torley Linden: have a good dinner Morris! [15:54] Infinity Linden: cheers! [15:54] norritt Xi: Bye Morris [15:54] Bridie Linden: Byee! [15:54] Bridie Linden: Ok, for late comers, be sure to check out the object I'm sitting on! [15:54] Infinity Linden thinks about logging friendship requests... [15:55] Lilly Zenovka: aww forgot to activate XP, had to go back to OSX [15:55] Bridie Linden: We're looking for folks to sign up to become Battery Street Irregulars and help us find/fix more issues further upstream by helping us test daily viewer builds! [15:56] Infinity Linden now worries she just volunteered to take a bug.. [15:56] Red Linden is Online [15:56] Bridie Linden: If you're willing/able/interested, take a copy of the info notecard and drop a notecard w/your name and system config and email on the object