Community Translation User Group/12-May-2011

Attendees List

• Catwise Yoshikawa (catwise.yoshikawa)(User's Wiki Page)
• Identity Euler (identity.euler)(User's Wiki Page)
• Irene Muni (irene.muni)(User's Wiki Page)
• Jewell Laryukov (jewell.laryukov)(User's Wiki Page)
• Karin Redgrave (karin.redgrave)(User's Wiki Page)
• Noelle Linden (noelle.linden)(User's Wiki Page)
• Rand Linden (rand.linden)(User's Wiki Page)
• Torben Trautman (torben.trautman)(User's Wiki Page)
• Youri Ashton (youri.ashton)(User's Wiki Page)

Summary

• Update from Lithium about the HTML problem: solution soon.
• New KB articles "ready for translation": soon.
• About the problem with TOC in Kb articles: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Generating_a_Lithium_TOC
• We need to know when a KB article is in edit phase or is finish: use JIRA in a future.
• About translation workflow: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Enhancing_Translation_Workflow
• About wiki articles with 0 content and/or nonsense content.
• About not translated sections of the Viewer Basic Mode: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25220 and https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25217
• About very olds JIRAs about the Spanish translation: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25534
• Sometimes it's difficult adjust the xml´s
• Next meeting Eli Linden will answer questions about Viewer translation.
• For content in English, we in Localization usually cannot grab everything there is to translate (last minute updates etc.) before a release. So we know that we do release international versions with some English.
• Working in JIR about Spanish web profiles: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3764
• Noelle is looking at the deferred from October 2010 JIRA requesting translate the Marketplace into Spanish: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-2358
• It'¡s important finish the articles about Marketplace. They need urgent translation.
• Labels translation review: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Knowledge_Base_Label_Translations
• Possible meeting with French volunteers.
• Don't forgive many Spanish articles (partially) translated: those articles in spanglish should be not visible for everyone. [Not answered, end of the meeting]

Transcript for Thursday May 12, 2011

[12:01]	Rand Linden	Hi
[12:01]	Irene Muni	hi Rand! :)
[12:01]	Torben Trautman	hi Rand
[12:01]	Youri Ashton	noelle told me today
[12:01]	Irene Muni	We are speaking bad thinks about Lindens XD
[12:01]	Rand Linden	Noelle said she's going to be 15 mins late
[12:01]	Irene Muni	things*
[12:02]	Torben Trautman	nah, we´re just making fun
[12:02]	Rand Linden	doh!
[12:02]	Rand Linden	:-)
[12:02]	Irene Muni	I love this benchs, it is impossible to sit LOL
[12:02]	Catwise Yoshikawa	heheh that just happened to me :p
[12:02]	Rand Linden	yeah, i seem to always end up sitting backward
[12:02]	Identity Euler	you need to stand et the front of the part
[12:02]	Identity Euler	on which you are going to sit
[12:03]	Irene Muni	Torben are free your knees? LOL
[12:03]	Torben Trautman	sure, hop on
[12:03]	Catwise Yoshikawa	that side is broke :p
[12:03]	Irene Muni	well, do you like my back? LOL
[12:04]	Torben Trautman	so Rand, should we start asking you embarassing questions?
[12:04]	Irene Muni	Rand, can we ask you about the KB?
[12:04]	Irene Muni	LOL Torben
[12:04]	Torben Trautman	hehe
[12:04]	Rand Linden	um...sure
[12:04]	Irene Muni	Spanish team needs more "Ready for translation" articles of the KB.
[12:04]	Rand Linden	but i have a quick update first
[12:04]	Irene Muni	ok, I wait
[12:04]	Rand Linden	This is from Lithium: "This email is to notify you that case (#00015622: Basic HTML Parameters) has been updated with the following comment:
[12:04]	Irene Muni	LOL
[12:04]	Rand Linden	So... we are still waiting on the full fix, but it looks like they made some progres
[12:05]	Torben Trautman	50 % *woot*
[12:05]	Youri Ashton	what did you feed the asset server rand? it's been upset for days now ;)
[12:05]	Irene Muni	no kudos for Lithium support.
[12:05]	Irene Muni	(((Torben, do you publih the chat log)))))
[12:05]	Irene Muni	publish*
[12:05]	Torben Trautman	sure can o :)
[12:05]	Irene Muni	Thanks :)
[12:06]	Rand Linden	ok so i just asked Jeremy if he has any more articles that are ready for trans.
[12:06]	Irene Muni	We need them :)
[12:06]	Rand Linden	He should have some stuff thats ready
[12:07]	Torben Trautman	Irene, how do you handle the broken table of content?
[12:07]	Torben Trautman	do you translate anyway?
[12:07]	Catwise Yoshikawa	would be nice to know when a KB article is in edit phase or is finish...
[12:07]	Catwise Yoshikawa	finished
[12:07]	Youri Ashton	noelle takes a long time to get here
[12:07]	Rand Linden	Catwise: yes, i agree
[12:08]	Rand Linden	Ideally, we could use Jira
[12:08]	Torben Trautman	she still has 8 minutes to be delayed in time :)
[12:08]	Rand Linden	but right now DOC project issues are not publicly visible
[12:08]	Rand Linden	i think we can change that...
[12:08]	Catwise Yoshikawa	I'm interested in marketplace articles, but they are changing them each month ^^'
[12:08]	Rand Linden	Yes, i know they are being actively revised this week
[12:08]	Irene Muni	the marketplace articles are ver imprtar for translation
[12:08]	Rand Linden	MAYBE done next week?
[12:08]	Torben Trautman	o.O Rand, did you have some time to read my tl/dr article about the workflow?
[12:09]	Rand Linden	Yes, Torben. I think your idea is good
[12:09]	Catwise Yoshikawa	so just would be nice to see a note or something when an article is going to be edited or not..
[12:09]	Torben Trautman	:)
[12:09]	Rand Linden	But we have to get the perms on DOC issues changed... .
[12:09]	Irene Muni	Rand, Perhaps we can send you (or wirte in wiki) suggestions for "ready for translation"artticles. or not?
[12:09]	Rand Linden	Irene: sure
[12:09]	Rand Linden	for the time being that is OK
[12:10]	Irene Muni	notecard or wiki?
[12:10]	Rand Linden	Torben's suggestion is to have a Jira issue for each article...
[12:10]	Rand Linden	and then we can track its status that way
[12:10]	Rand Linden	In fact, we do have Jiras for each KB article already (for most anyway)
[12:10]	Rand Linden	So, it would be easy to adapt that for L10N
[12:10]	Catwise Yoshikawa	also for reply in answer I'm lost cause they are changing thing from articles to other articles...is crazy
[12:10]	Torben Trautman	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Enhancing_Translation_Workflow
[12:11]	Rand Linden	Torben: great!
[12:11]	Rand Linden	Noelle would def. be interestd in that
[12:11]	Rand Linden	Also someone mentioned TOCs...
[12:11]	Irene Muni	interesting... when I can read it complete :)
[12:11]	Rand Linden	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Generating_a_Lithium_TOC
[12:12]	Rand Linden	They are a big pain with Lithium, esp. when you start rearranging sections
[12:12]	Rand Linden	SO, this is a little script that can make it a LITTLE easier
[12:12]	Irene Muni	oh!!!!
[12:12]	Torben Trautman	nice :)
[12:12]	Irene Muni	bookmarked
[12:12]	Torben Trautman	my question about toc was if the spanish team translates articles although the toc doesn´t work yet or if they are on hold
[12:13]	Torben Trautman	(just out of curiosity)
[12:13]	Irene Muni	We have not tried the TOC
[12:13]	Torben Trautman	ah ok
[12:14]	Irene Muni	In fact, the TOC of the spanish artcles are broken... as say the wiki page of translated articles LOL
[12:14]	Catwise Yoshikawa	I don't know what is TOC, so I have to read first :p
[12:14]	Torben Trautman	Cat: it´s "table of content"
[12:14]	Catwise Yoshikawa	heheh ^^'
[12:14]	Irene Muni	tabla de contebidos
[12:14]	Rand Linden	Right, wiki automatically generates them
[12:14]	Rand Linden	but Lithium doesnt
[12:14]	Irene Muni	ups, sorry for the spanish :)
[12:14]	Torben Trautman	<- loves wiki
[12:14]	Irene Muni	me to Torben :)
[12:14]	Rand Linden	So if you start moving sections around, then it gets all messedup and you have to edit HTML by hand
[12:14]	Catwise Yoshikawa	me not XD
[12:14]	Torben Trautman	:)
[12:14]	Irene Muni	And the Google search of the KB wiki
[12:15]	Rand Linden	Noelle should be joining us in a minute
[12:15]	Rand Linden	just got a Skype IM from her
[12:15]	Rand Linden	:-)
[12:15]	Irene Muni	No problem, Rand, we can shhot you XD
[12:15]	Youri Ashton	hey noelle
[12:15]	Irene Muni	shoot*
[12:15]	Youri Ashton	speaking of the devil :p
[12:15]	Torben Trautman	Rand, I noticed some wiki articles with 0 content and/or nonsense content
[12:15]	Rand Linden	lol
[12:15]	Noelle Linden	hi all
[12:15]	Irene Muni	LOLhi noelle
[12:15]	Rand Linden	Torben - please send me links to those articles
[12:15]	Catwise Yoshikawa	and be carefull cause Youri looks ready :p
[12:15]	Torben Trautman	should we use template:delete while you do your spring cleaning?
[12:15]	Torben Trautman	hi Noelle
[12:15]	Rand Linden	Sure
[12:15]	Youri Ashton	oh looking pretty today noelle!
[12:15]	Irene Muni	please, pay 10L$ to group by the delay Noelle
[12:15]	Catwise Yoshikawa	hi noelle
[12:15]	Torben Trautman	okies
[12:16]	Noelle Linden	ok I will :-)
[12:16]	Irene Muni	:)
[12:16]	Torben Trautman	Rand kept us entertained while we were waiting Noelle
[12:16]	Rand Linden	heh
[12:16]	Torben Trautman	You just missed him jumping through the burning tire ;)
[12:16]	Irene Muni	can we make more questions or is there agenda?
[12:16]	Noelle Linden	:)
[12:17]	Noelle Linden	please send your questions
[12:17]	Irene Muni	To date there have been five or six versions of the Viewer with Basic mode, but none of those versions have translated something as essential as the instructions (https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25220). It is not logical, it's a no sense if LL want retain new users.
[12:17]	Rand Linden	So Jeremy sez that we are not QUITE ready to hand off the articles we've been working on ...
[12:17]	Youri Ashton	you should get jeremy a tp, talks easier :)
[12:17]	Identity Euler	hi Noelle
[12:18]	Rand Linden	Why isnt that issue assigned to someone?
[12:18]	Irene Muni	who knows
[12:18]	Rand Linden	VWR-25220
[12:18]	Rand Linden	It will have a better chance of getting fixed if its assigned... Woudl that be Eli, Noelle?
[12:19]	Irene Muni	the majority og the spanish JIRASare unassigned: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25534
[12:19]	Rand Linden	Or someone in Viewer eng or UX perhaps
[12:19]	Rand Linden	hm
[12:19]	Irene Muni	from the BETA viewer 2 LOL
[12:19]	Torben Trautman	Eli said that new viewer strings come from translations agencies
[12:19]	Torben Trautman	at least the ones for german
[12:19]	Noelle Linden	this is correct Torben
[12:20]	Irene Muni	not in Spanish AFAIK
[12:20]	Torben Trautman	(which reminds me of the comment about their quality I recently made)
[12:20]	Noelle Linden	what is the issue with Spanish?
[12:20]	Irene Muni	see the "related to by" of this JIRA Noelle: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25534
[12:21]	Irene Muni	The majority of those JIRA came from the Viewer 2 BETA!
[12:21]	Noelle Linden	I see lots of issues with truncations
[12:21]	Rand Linden	Noelle - you will be interested in reading this from Torben: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Enhancing_Translation_Workflow
[12:21]	Noelle Linden	and some English
[12:21]	Noelle Linden	ok
[12:22]	Irene Muni	the mayority of that JIRAs can be fixed in only one day... as Torben knows :)
[12:22]	Irene Muni	those* JIRAS
[12:22]	Torben Trautman	maybe we can help Eli with some of them
[12:22]	Noelle Linden	not the truncations
[12:23]	Torben Trautman	Noelle: most truncations were pretty easy to fix when adjusting the xml´s
[12:23]	Noelle Linden	not the English content either
[12:23]	Irene Muni	well, we will wait, each new version fix 2 or 3 JIRAs, we can wait the 20th SLB :)
[12:23]	Noelle Linden	as for fixing the xml
[12:23]	Noelle Linden	I am no engineer, and I cannot speak for Eli
[12:24]	Noelle Linden	but I believe it is the US source xml that needs to accomodate text expansion in various languages
[12:24]	Noelle Linden	instead of us fixing each indicidual language
[12:24]	Noelle Linden	*individual
[12:24]	Torben Trautman	nods, we used to do local overrides but that didn´t do any *good* to the code :)
[12:24]	Noelle Linden	no we cannot do that
[12:25]	Noelle Linden	in does not solve the core issue anyway
[12:25]	Noelle Linden	*it
[12:25]	Noelle Linden	now, for meaning issues, that is translation errors, this is something else
[12:25]	Irene Muni	problems with Lithium, problems wiht the UI... aaahhh, I love SL XD
[12:26]	Noelle Linden	lol
[12:26]	Irene Muni	:)
[12:26]	Torben Trautman	it´s a work in progress :)
[12:26]	Irene Muni	LOL
[12:26]	Rand Linden	Well it keeps life 'interesting' :-)
[12:26]	Irene Muni	SL8B
[12:26]	Noelle Linden	for content in English, we in Localization usually cannot grab everything there is to translate (last minute updates etc.) before a release
[12:27]	Noelle Linden	so we know that we do release international versions with some English
[12:27]	Noelle Linden	it is an issue we have to live with
[12:27]	Torben Trautman	the basic viewer was in beta for something around 24 hours, hard to localize it in that time frame :)
[12:27]	Noelle Linden	there might also be some untranslatable contente (hard coded, coming from the server etc.)
[12:28]	Noelle Linden	exactly Torben
[12:28]	Youri Ashton	nothing is impossible noelle
[12:28]	Noelle Linden	it is impossible to localize at the same speed
[12:28]	Irene Muni	but we have now 5 or 6 versions of the Basic mode viewer
[12:29]	Noelle Linden	Irene, I will ask Eli to come to the next meeting
[12:29]	Irene Muni	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-25217
[12:29]	Noelle Linden	it seems like there are lots of questions for him
[12:29]	Irene Muni	yes :)
[12:29]	Noelle Linden	I will tell him to read the notes and to come next week
[12:29]	Irene Muni	we can write the answers in the agneda for Eli :)
[12:30]	Irene Muni	agenda*
[12:30]	Catwise Yoshikawa	^^
[12:30]	Irene Muni	the questions, sorry :)
[12:30]	Noelle Linden	Irene, I do have a questions
[12:30]	Irene Muni	esay, please
[12:30]	Noelle Linden	you remember that jira you opened for WebProfiles
[12:30]	Noelle Linden	about some translations issues
[12:30]	Irene Muni	eummmm. not :(
[12:30]	Noelle Linden	(I am looking for it now...)
[12:30]	Irene Muni	oh, yes
[12:30]	Torben Trautman	Eli said he doesn´t mind fixing xml´s and attaching them for implementation - so if he doesn´t mind we can fix truncations ourself while waiting for Lithium to work :)
[12:31]	Irene Muni	great Noelle
[12:32]	Noelle Linden	Torben, I cannot speak for Eli...
[12:32]	Noelle Linden	ask him directly if you do not mind
[12:32]	Torben Trautman	I just typed that for the transcript :)
[12:32]	Torben Trautman	so we can ask him next week :)
[12:32]	Youri Ashton	noelle, affraid you will ruin that pretty outfit? take a seat :p
[12:32]	Noelle Linden	so Irene, I asked our translator to look at those and he should have finxed some of them at leasr
[12:32]	Noelle Linden	*at least
[12:32]	Irene Muni	https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3764 ok Noelle :)
[12:33]	Noelle Linden	I hope most of those are fixed
[12:33]	Noelle Linden	thanks!
[12:33]	Irene Muni	and Any news about the "deferred" from October 2010 JIRA JIRA requesting translate the Marketplace into Spanish?: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-2358
[12:33]	Irene Muni	LOL
[12:33]	Noelle Linden	I am looking into that
[12:33]	Irene Muni	(last question abiout spanish, I opromise)
[12:33]	Noelle Linden	we might get Marketplace into Spanish
[12:33]	Irene Muni	ok :)
[12:33]	Noelle Linden	I will keep you posted
[12:34]	Youri Ashton	changing the language possibilities for the marketplace might be a good thing. it will for sure clearify a lot for many users
[12:34]	Irene Muni	about spanish translations of the web and others: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3819 (end)
[12:34]	Catwise Yoshikawa	I just wanted to know if they finish to edit marketplace articles
[12:34]	Catwise Yoshikawa	cause they change it lot of times, just tired of editing my work when I notice they did :p
[12:35]	Irene Muni	catqwise is translatin into spanish the marketplace articles, she is a merchant
[12:35]	Rand Linden	Catwise: we are actually reworking them right now
[12:35]	Rand Linden	and should be finished in a week or so
[12:35]	Torben Trautman	Rand/Noelle: would you mind sending a tp to Jewell Laryukov ?
[12:35]	Rand Linden	There was a lot of duplication, and poor organization... so this will improve them a lot
[12:35]	Noelle Linden	I will do that
[12:35]	Catwise Yoshikawa	but when I go to check something notice they change it again...that's why I said would be great to have something in KB articles that say when they are editing or when they finish :p
[12:36]	Catwise Yoshikawa	so still editing marketplace articles?
[12:36]	Rand Linden	yes still editing...
[12:36]	Jewell Laryukov	whoa force tp *woot*
[12:36]	Catwise Yoshikawa	ok, I'll wait then ^^
[12:36]	Noelle Linden	:-)
[12:36]	Irene Muni	youri please, use your gun against this change of the KB XD
[12:37]	Catwise Yoshikawa	could you tell us when is finished?
[12:37]	Rand Linden	I hope we can soon adopt Torben's suggestions re using Jira
[12:37]	Rand Linden	Yes, I will let you know, Catwise
[12:37]	Youri Ashton	lol
[12:37]	Catwise Yoshikawa	thanx ^^
[12:37]	Rand Linden	no problem... thank YOU
[12:37]	Irene Muni	hi jewell :)
[12:38]	Jewell Laryukov	ellow ?
[12:38]	Jewell Laryukov	don´t mind me, I´m just an alt ?
[12:38]	Irene Muni	:)
[12:38]	Youri Ashton	lol
[12:38]	Noelle Linden	hi Jewel
[12:39]	Irene Muni	have your main account problems with the new system of pays? LOL
[12:39]	Catwise Yoshikawa	lol
[12:39]	Irene Muni	I have been on hold 3 days LOL
[12:39]	Torben Trautman	hahaha
[12:39]	Irene Muni	4 years in SL with the same credit card and... your credit card is not valid LOL
[12:39]	Youri Ashton	lots of problems with the servers lately, so i wouldnt be surprised
[12:39]	Torben Trautman	no, I just wanted to look at the basic viewer and thought I could do that while we´re talking about it
[12:39]	Catwise Yoshikawa	hope they won't change my paypal ^^'
[12:40]	Irene Muni	when SL launch a new feature... the adventure begins!! LOL
[12:40]	Catwise Yoshikawa	and night mares ^^'
[12:41]	Irene Muni	LOL
[12:41]	Noelle Linden	I was wondering if you talked about labels with Rand
[12:41]	Noelle Linden	in the KB
[12:41]	Irene Muni	not today
[12:41]	Torben Trautman	hahaha, I just copied the url
[12:41]	Torben Trautman	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Knowledge_Base_Label_Translations
[12:42]	Irene Muni	why those new wiki pages cannot be announced in the private forum or similar?
[12:42]	Torben Trautman	Rand sent out a mail
[12:42]	Torben Trautman	or Noelle did
[12:42]	Irene Muni	a mail?
[12:42]	Torben Trautman	email
[12:42]	Rand Linden	Putting them in the forum is a good idea, though
[12:42]	Irene Muni	mail from the CT list?
[12:42]	Rand Linden	I need to get an update from Lexie on the label translation question
[12:42]	Torben Trautman	nods
[12:43]	Torben Trautman	but it was during easter
[12:43]	Irene Muni	well, i have no mail.... and I habe no SL in easter LOL
[12:43]	Noelle Linden	Looks like all the comments are for German ;-)
[12:43]	Torben Trautman	hehe, sorry about that
[12:43]	Noelle Linden	well its good to get 'disconnected" Irene
[12:43]	Irene Muni	:)
[12:43]	Noelle Linden	from time to time :-)
[12:44]	Irene Muni	it's the first time I have seen that wiki page :)
[12:44]	Rand Linden	Well, Irene, I trust we will soon see some comments in the Spanish section ;-)
[12:44]	Irene Muni	we
[12:44]	Irene Muni	LOL
[12:44]	Torben Trautman	hehe
[12:44]	Irene Muni	sure
[12:45]	Irene Muni	12 translators at work :)
[12:45]	Noelle Linden	I have the same feeling as Rand :-)
[12:45]	Irene Muni	http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Topics/Second-Life-CT-Project-group/m-p/868263
[12:46]	Irene Muni	Catwise, worg for the spanish team :)
[12:46]	Noelle Linden	we need to make sure that any label change that is made is also reflected in our Translation Memory for each language Rand
[12:46]	Irene Muni	Google Docs for the labels :)
[12:46]	Noelle Linden	if not we might have some discrepancies at one point
[12:46]	Catwise Yoshikawa	worg? I'm lost :p
[12:46]	Irene Muni	work* my fingers are sleeping LOL
[12:47]	Noelle Linden	anything else for today?
[12:47]	Rand Linden	So I would like to adopt the suggested changes to labels, pending Noelle's approval, but...
[12:47]	Irene Muni	ok
[12:47]	Rand Linden	I need to find out if we can just change the labels, or if we will need to go in and 'relabel' all the articles
[12:47]	Rand Linden	...which would be a hassle
[12:48]	Rand Linden	Also, minor comment re: "Linden dollar"
[12:48]	Rand Linden	I just corrected mistake in English style guide that implied it should be capitalized. the work 'dollar' should not.
[12:48]	Rand Linden	In German, of course, yes, since its a noun
[12:48]	Rand Linden	but not in English
[12:48]	Irene Muni	a question about translated articles publish by Jeremy. Many are incompletes. Must we wait or must be edit those articles?
[12:48]	Rand Linden	Very small point
[12:48]	Torben Trautman	:)
[12:48]	Rand Linden	Irene - i think you should wait
[12:49]	Rand Linden	because they are still in progress
[12:49]	Irene Muni	ok
[12:49]	Rand Linden	I have a few small ones that are ready, though
[12:49]	Rand Linden	i will post to the forum?
[12:49]	Rand Linden	Is that the best way to tell you about them>
[12:49]	Rand Linden	?
[12:49]	Youri Ashton	hey karin
[12:49]	Torben Trautman	hi Karin
[12:50]	Irene Muni	ok, but please, don't forgive those translated (partially) articles. They are the only KB that seeing many sepanish residents.
[12:50]	Catwise Yoshikawa	but those articles in spanglish should be not visible for everyone...is not good to see in that state :p
[12:50]	Karin Redgrave	hi sorry for being late
[12:50]	Noelle Linden	Irene/Torben, I would like to get some French volunteers involved in the KB translations, and I was wondering if you would like to meet with them next week
[12:50]	Noelle Linden	with me of course
[12:50]	Torben Trautman	sure
[12:50]	Noelle Linden	ok, great
[12:50]	Torben Trautman	but my french is pretty rusty
[12:50]	Youri Ashton	kom toch op dit ding zitten joh :p
[12:50]	Irene Muni	Noelle, there is a setep by step fuide for transte the KB in the wiki, But no problem :)
[12:50]	Noelle Linden	we will do that in English
[12:50]	Irene Muni	setp by step guide*
[12:51]	Torben Trautman	phew :)
[12:51]	Noelle Linden	just in case...
[12:51]	Noelle Linden	Hi Karin
[12:51]	Irene Muni	Catwise said: but those articles in spanglish should be not visible for everyone...is not good to see in that state :p
[12:51]	Irene Muni	:)
[12:51]	Catwise Yoshikawa	ask them to go to the meeting with homwroks made (step by step guide) :p
[12:52]	Catwise Yoshikawa	ohh, guess they don't read me XD thanx irene ^^
[12:52]	Irene Muni	ad irena said: ok, but please, don't forgive those translated (partially) articles. They are the only KB that seeing many sepanish residents.
[12:52]	Irene Muni	LOL
[12:52]	Noelle Linden	sure, will do
[12:52]	Noelle Linden	:-)
[12:52]	Irene Muni	will do... what?
[12:53]	Irene Muni	I agree with Cat: but those articles in spanglish should be not visible for everyone...is not good to see in that state
[12:53]	Noelle Linden	tell them to do some homework!
[12:53]	Catwise Yoshikawa	articles in spanglish in visible mode, is not nice
[12:53]	Torben Trautman	hehe
[12:53]	Irene Muni	mixed themes XD
[12:53]	Catwise Yoshikawa	hehe yes, she is late :p
[12:54]	Torben Trautman	if nobody minds I´ll post the transcript tomorrow after work
[12:54]	Noelle Linden	this is fine Torben, thank you
[12:54]	Catwise Yoshikawa	we were talking about those articles with half english -half spanish. Not serious to make them visible like they are now
[12:54]	Noelle Linden	and I will ask Eli to come next week
[12:54]	Noelle Linden	I will keep you posted about the French translators meeting as well
[12:55]	Irene Muni	LOL
[12:55]	Torben Trautman	any day but tuesday would work for me
[12:55]	Irene Muni	Catqise, another thread for the non readed agenda LOL
[12:55]	Noelle Linden	maybe next Wenesday
[12:55]	Torben Trautman	ok
[12:55]	Torben Trautman	now off to beaumont :)
[12:55]	Catwise Yoshikawa	yes lol
[12:55]	Youri Ashton	well see i guess :p
[12:56]	Noelle Linden	all right, thank you all for coming
[12:56]	Torben Trautman	bye bye all, have a great week(end)
[12:56]	Noelle Linden	and see you next week
[12:56]	Youri Ashton	bye bye all :)
[12:56]	Rand Linden	Well I am heading over there, too... cya!
[12:56]	Irene Muni	Bye all, greetings from Spain!
[12:56]	Noelle Linden	bye!
[12:56]	Karin Redgrave	see you all

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