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[13:58] Ricken Flow: hey Becky [13:58] You: Hey Becky, Ricken, Georgette. [13:58] Becky Pippen: Hi Jeremy [13:58] WidgetHUD v1.1: Becky Pippen has pinged you. [13:58] Ricken Flow: Hey Jeremy [13:58] WidgetHUD v1.1: Ricken Flow has pinged you. [13:58] Georgette Whitfield: Hi Jeremy [13:58] WidgetHUD v1.1: Georgette Whitfield has pinged you. [13:59] Georgette Whitfield: Poor chap probably has a ton of IMs lol [13:59] You: Welcome to Documentation Office Hours. Kate and Jon should be here shortly. [13:59] Georgette Whitfield: WooT WooT [13:59] You: Actually, I don't! I must be one of the lucky unpopular Lindens :-) [13:59] Georgette Whitfield: Hehhee [13:59] Georgette Whitfield: Well if it makes you feel more popular, I'd love a copy of your bear [14:00] You: Sure thing. [14:00] Georgette Whitfield: Yay! [14:00] Georgette Whitfield accepted your inventory offer. [14:00] Georgette Whitfield: WooT WooT [14:00] Ricken Flow: make sure you get knowledge bear too [14:00] Georgette Whitfield: Oh I got him a while ago [14:00] Georgette Whitfield: I've started a wee collection [14:00] You: Speak of the devils... [14:00] Georgette Whitfield: LOL [14:00] Jon Linden: the devils! [14:00] Georgette Whitfield: Hi Jon and Kate [14:01] Ricken Flow: I have about 20 linden bears [14:01] Georgette Whitfield: Jello LInden lol [14:01] Georgette Whitfield: Oh now that's a cool av [14:01] Becky Pippen: Hi Jon Hi Kate [14:01] Georgette Whitfield: What is it btw? [14:01] Kate Linden: Hi Becky [14:01] Georgette Whitfield: lol [14:01] Jon Linden: it's a giant jello mold of some sort [14:01] Ricken Flow: Howdy Kate, Jello Jon [14:01] Jon Linden: with fruit inside [14:02] Kate Linden: Hi Ricken [14:02] Georgette Whitfield: :-D [14:02] Jon Linden: how's it going, everybody! [14:02] You: And a Knowledge Bear. Because Jon absorbs knowledge. [14:02] Georgette Whitfield: lol [14:02] Georgette Whitfield: Great [14:02] Georgette Whitfield: Nice to meet you Kate [14:02] Jon Linden: there's also a Green Lantern ring embedded in there somewhere, from my previous avatar [14:02] Kate Linden: Hello Gerogette, nice to mee you too. [14:02] Georgette Whitfield: I got your bears a while ago at the I-World hunt [14:02] Kate Linden: *Georgette [14:03] You: Hi Arawn. Welcome back. [14:03] Kate Linden: Oh nice. How did you enjoy the hunt? [14:03] Georgette Whitfield: Hi Arawn [14:03] Georgette Whitfield: I did [14:03] Georgette Whitfield: Love hunts [14:03] Georgette Whitfield: But I nearly died when I saw the Phil bear [14:03] Kate Linden: Awesome [14:03] Georgette Whitfield: Then I realised it was no copy hahaha [14:03] Kate Linden: awww yes, that bear is part of the museum exhibit. [14:03] Georgette Whitfield: And just there to torment us [14:03] Georgette Whitfield: muahahaha! [14:03] Kate Linden: lol [14:03] Ricken Flow: NPC is having a weekend long scavenger hunt [14:04] Georgette Whitfield: Oooh [14:04] Ricken Flow: starts today [14:04] Georgette Whitfield: Yippee [14:04] Georgette Whitfield: What can you hunt? [14:04] Arawn Spitteler: Hunt for Scavengers? [14:04] Georgette Whitfield: lol [14:04] Ricken Flow: you follow clues to get information for different non-profits here in SL [14:05] Ricken Flow: let me find the info note [14:05] Ricken Flow: the grand prize is 25,000 lindens i believe [14:05] Georgette Whitfield: Thanks Ricken [14:05] Gellan Glenelg: hi [14:05] You: Hi Gellan. Welcome back! [14:05] Georgette Whitfield: Wow didn't know they had that many staff [14:05] Georgette Whitfield: Hi Gellan [14:06] Georgette Whitfield: Cheers Ricken [14:06] Jon Linden: so what's on everyone's mind today, documentation-wise? [14:06] Jon Linden: "not much" is a perfectly valid answer, btw [14:06] Jon Linden: ^__^ [14:06] Ricken Flow: not much [14:06] Georgette Whitfield: lol [14:07] Georgette Whitfield: Not much [14:07] Becky Pippen: Mono! [14:07] Georgette Whitfield: Although do you know of any project to translate the KB etc into French? [14:07] Ricken Flow: I need to do search on advanced SLurl techniques just finished the basics of SLURL notecards [14:07] Georgette Whitfield: I know there's a German SL site now [14:07] Jon Linden: georgette, plans are afoot for localization into many languages [14:07] Georgette Whitfield: Yay [14:07] Jon Linden: it's hard to say when exactly they'll launch, but the rocket is being built [14:07] Georgette Whitfield: C'est bien ça [14:08] Georgette Whitfield: Cool [14:08] Jon Linden: i published two articles about mono just a couple hours ago [14:08] Becky Pippen: oh cool! [14:08] Georgette Whitfield: I read [14:08] Georgette Whitfield: Very exciting [14:09] Gellan Glenelg: I'm seeing so much misinformation:( [14:09] You: http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=5482 [14:09] You: http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=5481 [14:09] Ricken Flow: I am excited about learning about opensim Microsoft.net is giving some classes [14:09] Gellan Glenelg: "mono uses less memory" "you need to learn a new scripting language" "mono canot cause lag" etc etc [14:09] Jon Linden: some of those assertions are true to an extent [14:09] Georgette Whitfield: The usual rumours [14:10] Jon Linden: the articles provide some explanation [14:10] Becky Pippen: that's an excellent article [14:12] Georgette Whitfield: A bit over my head lol [14:12] Jon Linden: heh [14:12] Jon Linden: hopefully the Mono article for non-scripters is less technical [14:12] Jon Linden: at least, that was the idea! [14:12] You: Yeah, I posted links to both... that wasn't a typo on my part :-) [14:13] You: Hi XLR8RRICK. Welcome to Documentation Office Hours. [14:13] Georgette Whitfield: Yes the first one you cited is ok on my brain [14:13] Georgette Whitfield: The second is scary [14:13] Georgette Whitfield: Hi XLR [14:13] XLR8RRICK Hudson: thank you Hello everyone [14:14] Kate Linden: Hello XLR8RRICK [14:14] Jon Linden: i'm glad we got our audiences right for those articles, or at least it sounds like we did ^__^ [14:14] XLR8RRICK Hudson: Hiya Kate [14:14] Georgette Whitfield: Hi Coyle [14:14] You: Hi Coyle. Welcome to Documentation Office Hours. [14:14] Coyle Brenmann: hey hey, ty [14:14] Georgette Whitfield: :-D yes Jon [14:14] Jon Linden: greetings, newcomers! [14:14] You: Hi Igel. Welcome to Documentation Office Hours! [14:15] Igel Hawks: Heya @all [14:15] Jeremy Linden should make a sign. [14:15] Georgette Whitfield: Hi Igel [14:15] Georgette Whitfield: That squeaky bear is so cute [14:15] Igel Hawks: I like it :D [14:15] Jon Linden: heh; you know, that's a good idea. a sign! [14:16] Coyle Brenmann: rez rez, don't wanna sit down yet, might sit on someone :P [14:16] Igel Hawks: Yeps. I big sign which rezzes first [14:16] Arawn Spitteler: Sit on the couches, and let them get out of your way [14:16] XLR8RRICK Hudson: oh man [14:16] You: Maybe I'll make a big DOCUMENTATION OFFICE HOURS sign, with a little neon "In Session" part that we can turn on and off :-P [14:17] Georgette Whitfield: Do one in ArtRage lol [14:17] Georgette Whitfield: With a jello on it [14:17] Igel Hawks: and turn on and off the glow effect [14:17] Arawn Spitteler: Floating Text [14:17] Ricken Flow: got to have a crab too [14:17] Arawn Spitteler: Over a Megaprim Jello [14:17] Georgette Whitfield: Ahahaha [14:17] Arawn Spitteler: Aspic [14:18] Georgette Whitfield: Hmmm [14:18] Georgette Whitfield: Gee that was quick [14:18] You: Nah, it's not serious. I used to use that for WindLight office hours. [14:18] Igel Hawks: hehe. Watched Torley's tutorial during work a lot? [14:18] XLR8RRICK Hudson: lol [14:19] You: You pick up a few tricks after 3+ years in SL :-) [14:19] Igel Hawks: ;-) [14:19] Coyle Brenmann: just a few? :P [14:19] XLR8RRICK Hudson: how big is your INV [14:20] Igel Hawks: How tomake squeeky bears? [14:20] Arawn Spitteler: Reality, by any other name, is unreal [14:20] You: Heh. That's one, Igel. [14:20] You: My Resident self had an inventory over 16,000 at one point. I think I cleaned it awhile ago, though. [14:20] Jon Linden: i get the feeling it would be unwise to challenge Jeremy to a match of Primtionary [14:20] WidgetHUD v1.1: Jon Linden has pinged you. [14:20] Igel Hawks: hehe. [14:21] XLR8RRICK Hudson: Thats me right now my wife is at 28000 [14:21] Georgette Whitfield: AHH!!!! [14:21] XLR8RRICK Hudson: I have heard of 50000 [14:21] Igel Hawks: Mine is at 17000 [14:21] XLR8RRICK Hudson: what is the limit [14:21] Jon Linden: good question [14:21] Georgette Whitfield: 7000 [14:21] Arawn Spitteler: Disk Space is Cheap, but so are the desert sands, until you have to build a railroad. [14:21] Igel Hawks: "Thanks" to the mental mentor's boxes [14:21] XLR8RRICK Hudson: lets clear cache [14:22] Georgette Whitfield: But I'm a RL librarian so love sorting inventory hehe [14:22] Igel Hawks: Hehe. [14:22] You: I don't think we currently enforce a hard limit, but we encourage you to keep your numbers down, in order to take it easy on our inventory servers :-) [14:22] XLR8RRICK Hudson: ah yes [14:22] Becky Pippen: but each pair of shoes takes three inventory items... and that adds up! [14:22] XLR8RRICK Hudson: the handshake too [14:22] Georgette Whitfield: lol yes Becky [14:22] Igel Hawks: I remember how scared I was when I reached the 5000 . I have heared that the inventory will clean itself then [14:23] Georgette Whitfield: And man SL shoes are collectable :)) [14:23] Georgette Whitfield: awww Igel lol [14:23] Multi Gadget v1.54.2 by Timeless Prototype [14:23] Igel Hawks: And I believed that in these days :D [14:23] You: A few KB tips on inventory management: [14:23] XLR8RRICK Hudson: lolIgel [14:23] Igel Hawks: That would be cool. [14:23] You: http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=3974 [14:23] Georgette Whitfield: WB Gellan [14:23] Gellan Glenelg: ty [14:23] You: http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4595 [14:23] You: http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4674 [14:24] Coyle Brenmann: Jeremy, do the economic statistics fall under relevant KB questions here? [14:24] WidgetHUD v1.1: Coyle Brenmann has pinged you. [14:25] Jon Linden: what sort of economic statistics? [14:25] You: I don't know much about the stats themselves, but you should at least be able to find a link to them in the KB... if not, that would be a relevant question :-) [14:25] You: If by "economic stats" you mean: the ones we publish. [14:25] You: Oh, jeez... I interrupted Torley's video tutorial in that link. [14:25] Coyle Brenmann: yes, the ones you publish [14:26] Coyle Brenmann: I'd like to make a suggestion first, then ask a follow up Q to it [14:26] Jon Linden: fire away [14:26] Igel Hawks whispers: HostHelper initialised! [14:26] You: Our existing article: http://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4775 [14:26] Coyle Brenmann: In RL, we have "SIC" codes, codes that identify industries by classification... [14:27] Georgette Whitfield: Yes [14:27] Coyle Brenmann: in SL, there is no way to track transactions by business classification.... [14:27] Georgette Whitfield: Hi ryann [14:27] Georgette Whitfield: Would be useful [14:27] Arawn Spitteler: Who'd hafe to maintain the classification? [14:27] Coyle Brenmann: I'm very interested in these numbers, but the downloadable data is very, well, "rolled up" [14:27] Georgette Whitfield: But that is more the job for a market research company no? [14:28] Arawn Spitteler: If I sell a Waterslide, is that indesutry or entertainment [14:28] Jon Linden: http://www.sec.gov/info/edgar/siccodes.htm [14:28] Jon Linden: interesting [14:28] Jon Linden: arawn asks the pertinent question here [14:28] Coyle Brenmann: SL has positions open for marketing and program managers, but I think without this data, it's much more "hit and miss" [14:28] Georgette Whitfield: Yes very subjective [14:28] Jon Linden: someone would have to create the registry, maintain it, and enforce it [14:29] Arawn Spitteler: It's a question asked at your tax office, if youre self employed, but we're international, and not everybody wants to talk to tax collectors [14:29] You: Coyle, are you referring to real-life companies that use Second Life, or businesses that run entirely inside Second Life? [14:29] Coyle Brenmann: I think the value in this data would not only be useful to SL, but to the businesses looking for statistical reference to transactions in-world. Jeremy, to both actually [14:29] WidgetHUD v1.1: Coyle Brenmann has pinged you. [14:29] Ricken Flow: it also depends if you are asking about the SIC code for Linden Lab's or for in-world businesses [14:30] Coyle Brenmann: in-world business [14:30] Coyle Brenmann: I have my assumptions as to where the breakdowns are, but I'd like to get my hands around real data [14:30] Georgette Whitfield: Also I think UK SIC codes differ from US ones [14:30] Coyle Brenmann: breakdowns, as in the categories of transactions [14:30] Igel Hawks: Georhette: I think, you are right. [14:31] Georgette Whitfield: Plus you would have to watch people didn't register under many sic codes [14:31] Georgette Whitfield: To game the system [14:31] Jon Linden: the problem comes back around to the creation, maintenance, and enforcement of the registry [14:31] Jon Linden: who would take on such a task? us? (LL?) [14:31] Igel Hawks: UK system is a bit different. But I am not very used in these Codes. [14:31] Ricken Flow: the way in-world businesses come and go there would not be accurate data just moderate estimations as far as data goes [14:31] You: Coyle, could you provide some examples of categories for different types of transactions? I'm still trying to understand the kind of information you're looking for. [14:31] Igel Hawks: Of course Jon *giggles+ [14:31] Arawn Spitteler: I was helping script a door, the other day. Would that be product or service? [14:32] Igel Hawks: It will be a job for all of your life [14:32] Georgette Whitfield: Service I think [14:32] Georgette Whitfield: But that's why you need one entity in charge of the registry [14:32] Georgette Whitfield: It's like the Dewey system [14:32] Georgette Whitfield: It only works because OCLC are in charge of it [14:32] Arawn Spitteler: A qualified answer has a problem at tax time, whichis what Industry Codes are for. [14:32] Georgette Whitfield: If it went open source everyone would use their own version and it'd be a mess [14:33] Jon Linden: my personal take is that it's a nice idea, but i can't see any way for it not to be an implementation nightmare [14:33] Georgette Whitfield: lol [14:33] Igel Hawks: Yeps. That's the point I think [14:33] Kate Linden: Please excuse me for a few minutes. I need to go afk. [14:34] Igel Hawks: Hb Kate :D [14:34] Georgette Whitfield: I guess one stat the lab could release [14:34] Coyle Brenmann: Jeremy, let's say in RL, I own a residential (home) building company, and I'm interested in knowing 1. How many other companies/competition in SL are there in my category, and the number of transactions in Lindens/month that occur through my business category [14:34] WidgetHUD v1.1: Coyle Brenmann has pinged you. [14:34] Georgette Whitfield: Would be the number of classifieds in each category [14:34] Arawn Spitteler: Ultimately, we'd be selling descriptions of things, be they sex acts, architecture or machinery, so what's the SIC for Art? [14:34] Georgette Whitfield: That could give some indication [14:34] You: I see... [14:35] Coyle Brenmann: I see the comments and concerns and admittedly, it would have to be more generic than in RL [14:35] You: That sounds like it would require businesses to register the type of business they're in... something we do not currently require. [14:35] Igel Hawks: Heya Talor [14:35] Talor Magic: hi [14:35] You: Although, if you wanted to create a voluntary registry of your own, there may be business to be had just in that :-) [14:35] Coyle Brenmann: Jeremy: point taken [14:35] WidgetHUD v1.1: Coyle Brenmann has pinged you. [14:35] Arawn Spitteler: It would involved figuring out what kind of business you're in, before you start [14:35] Georgette Whitfield: Hi Talor [14:36] Ricken Flow: you sure could sell the info to market companies [14:36] Georgette Whitfield: Coyle there are some market research reports available [14:36] Georgette Whitfield: But they are expensive and quickly outdated [14:36] Coyle Brenmann: The way I see it, is since LL controls the in-world transactions, each txn would include a SIC code of sorts [14:36] Jon Linden: welcome to Documentation Office Hours, Talor! [14:36] Talor Magic: thx,,may i sit down [14:37] Jon Linden: looks like there's room on the wavy red couch [14:37] Coyle Brenmann: ok, so maybe a pipe dream [14:37] Georgette Whitfield: Or a project for if you get bored :) [14:37] Coyle Brenmann: hah [14:37] Igel Hawks: The short term nature of a lot of the inworld businesses is a real nightmare for someone who wants to take the responibility for registering codes. [14:38] Ricken Flow: how much contol does LL really have over transactions beyond recording them [14:38] Georgette Whitfield: Yes Igel [14:38] Jon Linden: i think in coyle's theoretical universe, the work would need to be done on LL's side to include SIC-like metadata in all inworld transactions [14:38] Igel Hawks: Awww. my typos are getting worse [14:38] Georgette Whitfield: Plus how many stores are there that sell everything lol [14:38] You: There is a technical hurdle in detecting or determining SIC codes at all... I see the value, but I do not possess the expertise to comment intelligently on whether we are or will ever implement such a system. [14:38] Jon Linden: what jeremy said [14:38] WidgetHUD v1.1: Jon Linden has pinged you. [14:38] You: What we know best is Documentation-- how to find the information you're looking for, rather than the information itself :-) [14:38] Coyle Brenmann: Jon, that's right. And while I could put together a proposal/project describing such an enhancement, I'm not so sure it would be well received [14:39] You: Have you put together a project in PJIRA? [14:39] Coyle Brenmann: No, I haven't [14:39] Ricken Flow: yes some folks would not like people to know SL buying habits [14:39] Coyle Brenmann: and based on what Jeremy just said, I think I may be taking the discussion here in the wrong direction :) [14:39] WidgetHUD v1.1: Coyle Brenmann has pinged you. [14:39] Georgette Whitfield: Maybe when the whole web becomes 3D and like SL then the tax authorities will register all SL businesses anyway so it could happen eventually [14:40] XLR8RRICK Hudson: shh [14:40] Georgette Whitfield: Oh did I say the T word? [14:40] Georgette Whitfield: Sorry lol [14:40] Igel Hawks: Dont wake up the sleeping dogs! [14:40] Arawn Spitteler doesn't think Minimum Wage Law would impact SL very nicely [14:40] Georgette Whitfield: lol [14:40] XLR8RRICK Hudson: we all declare income [14:40] You: tacks authorities... hardware professionals, of course. [14:40] Georgette Whitfield: :)) [14:41] Arawn Spitteler: If we make U$20/mo in tips, we're suppposed to report them. [14:41] XLR8RRICK Hudson: yes add them to your RL income [14:41] Arawn Spitteler: I think there are about 300 people, who make meager livings, in world, and might even pay income taxes, which involves reporting. [14:42] Jeremy Linden cannot comment on anything resembling legal issues. [14:42] XLR8RRICK Hudson: and deduct the cost of doing business too [14:42] Coyle Brenmann: Yes, I was just looking at that data earlier [14:42] Jon Linden: me neither [14:42] Coyle Brenmann: approx 600 people make more than $2k USD/mo [14:43] Coyle Brenmann: and I'd really like to know what businesses they are in :) [14:43] Coyle Brenmann: hence, the SIC code comments [14:43] Georgette Whitfield: Clothes or skins or land [14:43] Georgette Whitfield: Or builds [14:43] Jon Linden: i wonder if the proprietors of those businesses might rather you not know? [14:43] Coyle Brenmann: But that's just best guesses [14:44] Georgette Whitfield: Mmm not so much a guess [14:44] Coyle Brenmann: Jon, that's my unspoken point :) [14:44] Georgette Whitfield: There's a good book out [14:44] Georgette Whitfield: Entrepreneurs Guide to SL [14:44] XLR8RRICK Hudson: look at what the top ads are worth [14:44] Coyle Brenmann: Jon, my guess as to what they do, may be taboo in public discussions [14:44] XLR8RRICK Hudson: 1000us /wk [14:44] Arawn Spitteler: Counselling and other consulting arts, more likely [14:44] Georgette Whitfield: It talks a bit about what each category of business can make [14:44] Coyle Brenmann: Georgette, but without relevant data, it's just the author's best guess no? [14:45] Georgette Whitfield: No they did a lot of research [14:45] Georgette Whitfield: It's written by people who run business in SL [14:45] XLR8RRICK Hudson: you have to know all the different ways to market yourself [14:45] Coyle Brenmann: ty for that resource, I will look into it [14:46] Coyle Brenmann: As was mentioned however, the quick turn over of SL businesses may make even a book outdated before it hits the shelf no? [14:46] Jon Linden: Residents helping Residents! [14:46] Georgette Whitfield: It's an interesting read anyhoo [14:46] Georgette Whitfield: Yes but still worth a look I think [14:46] XLR8RRICK Hudson: love that Jon [14:46] Georgette Whitfield: You can probably get a second-hand copy on Amazon now [14:47] Georgette Whitfield: Or ebay [14:47] Coyle Brenmann: probably ;) [14:47] Georgette Whitfield: Just don't buy L$ while you're there [14:47] Georgette Whitfield eeps. [14:47] Jon Linden: looks like you can get a used copy for US$5 [14:47] Jon Linden: http://www.amazon.com/Entrepreneurs-Guide-Second-Life-Metaverse/dp/0470179147 [14:47] Igel Hawks: Oh, GTeam Officehour is another day :D [14:47] Georgette Whitfield: Cool Jon [14:47] Arawn Spitteler: Is there a problem, of Ebay Linden$ [14:48] Ricken Flow: I have been thinking of starting a SL business selling amway/quixtar just because I am unemployed [14:48] Georgette Whitfield: What is that Ricken? [14:48] Igel Hawks: Arawn: Yes. [14:48] XLR8RRICK Hudson: everyone in business here should be advancing and growing [14:48] Igel Hawks: You never know, how the L$ on Ebay are earned. [14:48] Georgette Whitfield: LOL [14:48] Coyle Brenmann: XLR: should be, but such isn't the case based on the economic figures [14:48] Georgette Whitfield: Ewwww [14:48] Arawn Spitteler: I've run into a Catch 22, and can't sell Linden$ to Lindex [14:48] Ricken Flow: something like avon [14:49] XLR8RRICK Hudson: is there any Marketing stratigies in the KB [14:49] Georgette Whitfield: Ah ok [14:49] Jon Linden: it looks like there was a blog for a while too http://entrepreneursguidetosecondlife.blogspot.com/ [14:49] Jon Linden: XLR8RRICK: no [14:49] Igel Hawks: Does SLEX work for you? [14:49] You: Marketing is entirely too subjective a topic for the KB, at least the way we currently present it. [14:49] Jon Linden: the problem with trying to put information like that in the KB is that there's no one way to do it [14:49] Jon Linden: it's the kind of thing the wiki seems better suited for [14:50] You: There's not "marketing" button anywhere in the UI :-) [14:50] Coyle Brenmann: My marketing prof used to say, "Half of my marketing budget is wasted, I just don't know which half" [14:50] Igel Hawks: Yeps Jon, My point. [14:50] Ricken Flow: wiki wiki wiki wiki [14:50] Georgette Whitfield: OK this is OT but I really want to ask before the end of the hour: [14:50] XLR8RRICK Hudson: ah the wicked wiki [14:50] Georgette Whitfield: BTW do you guys know, is Elle Linden in Canada or something? I would like to talk to her but her hours are at a strange time for a Francophone [14:50] Arawn Spitteler: I've no on-line money, so no billing date. No Payment Info on File means we don't get to take our earnings home. [14:50] XLR8RRICK Hudson: wiki is tricky [14:50] Jon Linden: georgette, i actually have no idea [14:50] Jon Linden: sorry! [14:50] Igel Hawks: the Wiki gets better and better in general [14:50] Georgette Whitfield: No pb [14:51] You: Georgette, we can't really tell you because of our privacy policy... that would fall under "disclosure". You might try leaving her a message, though? [14:51] Ricken Flow: I can ask i go to her office hours [14:51] Georgette Whitfield: Do you know of other French-speaking Lindens [14:51] Ricken Flow: she is so much fun [14:51] Georgette Whitfield: I looked on the wiki but she was the only one I could find [14:51] Igel Hawks: XLR8RRICK: Just ask one of the Mentor Scribes to help you. [14:51] Georgette Whitfield: Yes I will Jeremy [14:51] WidgetHUD v1.1: Georgette Whitfield has pinged you. [14:51] Georgette Whitfield: Sorry didn't mean to pry lol [14:51] Georgette Whitfield: Ok thanks guys [14:52] Jon Linden: there might be other francophone Lindens, I just don't know who they are [14:52] Georgette Whitfield: OK thanks [14:52] Jon Linden: Lindens are weird that way -- they have a lot of hidden skills you'd never think of [14:53] Georgette Whitfield: :-D [14:53] Igel Hawks: As far as I know, Elle is the only "official" French speaking at LL. But you can ask her by a notecard maybe if the time is to weird for you [14:53] Georgette Whitfield: I will thanks Igel [14:53] Georgette Whitfield: Ah you are German Mentor Linguist? [14:53] Igel Hawks: I have done it with Lotte for the German speaking Lindens in the same way :D [14:53] Igel Hawks: Yes, I am [14:53] Georgette Whitfield: The German site is brilliant [14:54] Georgette Whitfield: I would like to see this for the French [14:54] Igel Hawks: Jean and Lotte have done a great work. [14:54] Georgette Whitfield: I have been trying to mentor for months but apps are still closed [14:54] Georgette Whitfield: Yes they have [14:54] Igel Hawks: I know. [14:54] Georgette Whitfield: Sorry straying OT again [14:54] XLR8RRICK Hudson: http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=c2g7djaua9j4he8c6d0iu7n7k8%40group.calendar.google.com [14:55] Ricken Flow: there are several mentor groups [14:55] Georgette Whitfield: Ty SLR [14:55] XLR8RRICK Hudson: I copy the SLURL into open chat and Paste [14:55] XLR8RRICK Hudson: then go from there [14:56] Georgette Whitfield: *XLR [14:56] XLR8RRICK Hudson: we all understand typonese [14:56] Georgette Whitfield: :)) [14:56] Georgette Whitfield: Da Lindens went all quiet! [14:56] XLR8RRICK Hudson: its true we all do [14:57] Arawn Spitteler: I think it's the algorythm of communications, wehre we only see what's been echoed, so it's laggy to use backspace [14:57] You: We were communicating amongst ourselves by using our collective consciousness. [14:57] Georgette Whitfield: Oooh another Linden power [14:57] You: Err... new feature. Shhh. [14:57] Georgette Whitfield: Heheh [14:57] Arawn Spitteler: IMS? [14:57] Jon Linden: heheheh [14:57] Kate Linden: lol [14:57] Igel Hawks: Shhh. TV? [14:58] XLR8RRICK Hudson: Olny srmat poelpe can raed tihs. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. [14:58] Igel Hawks: The feature for SL Viewer 1.30 maybe [14:58] Georgette Whitfield: Wow XLR that works! [14:58] Igel Hawks: (TV = Telepathic Voice) [14:58] You: That's a fun pyschology trick, XL. [14:58] XLR8RRICK Hudson: it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. [14:58] Georgette Whitfield: Wow lol [14:58] XLR8RRICK Hudson: Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! [14:59] Georgette Whitfield: I think I got an email like that round my office once [14:59] Jon Linden: i am going to stick to correct spelling in the KB for the future, though ^__^ [14:59] XLR8RRICK Hudson: sorry but having fun is a rule [14:59] Coyle Brenmann: hah [14:59] Georgette Whitfield: :-D [14:59] Georgette Whitfield: I wonder if that works for non-native speakers? [14:59] You: That's one of my old favorites. [14:59] Georgette Whitfield: Anyone? [14:59] Coyle Brenmann: Well, now I can tell my kids that spelling isn't as important as the meaning behind it :) [14:59] Jon Linden: good question [15:00] XLR8RRICK Hudson: lol Coyle [15:00] Igel Hawks: It works Georgette [15:00] Ricken Flow: I think we should let Jon take over the KB before Jeremy revers to his old favorites [15:00] WidgetHUD v1.1: Ricken Flow has pinged you. [15:00] Ricken Flow: lol [15:00] Becky Pippen: Bye all, have a great weekend! [15:00] Georgette Whitfield: Geil! [15:00] Jon Linden: indeed! [15:00] Georgette Whitfield: Bye Becky [15:00] Coyle Brenmann: ttfn [15:00] You: I think if you do that enough, your spelling checker will leave you a "Dear John" letter. [15:00] Jon Linden: that rounds out the hour, folks [15:00] Igel Hawks: Bye and enjoy your weekend [15:00] Georgette Whitfield: Awwwww [15:00] Jon Linden: everyone have a great one [15:00] Georgette Whitfield: Bye [15:00] Jon Linden: feel free to stop by again next week!