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* LL developer news
* LL developer news
* Review premature closure of {{jira|BUG-10924|BUG-10924 llSubListFindList}}- it is a very simple function as llListFindList is already implemented, all that is required is to skip to the start index, and stop after the end index is reached. In essence only a single function implementation is required, as llListFindList would be equivalent to llSubListFindList(haystack, needle, 0, -1). With the woeful inefficiency of lists it's also a very important capability to have, if it can be strided at the same time (thus restricting which indices potential matches can start from) that would be even better. -- [[User:Haravikk Mistral|Haravikk]]
* Please review the premature closure of the following issues by Kyle Linden. I know he's not listed as a server/sim/scripting group member, but I have no idea who we're supposed to contact about closed issues as Lindens never seem to reply to IMs. I want to stress also that I am utterly sick of the pathetic canned responses that JIRA issues get when closed, because not only do they give no specific information, all they really do is link to a wiki page that is worse than useless at indicating valid reasons why an issue was closed, it's a deeply hostile process that makes me wonder why anyone bothers trying to improve SL. Anyway, sorry that these aren't all server/sim/scripting, but who the heck are we supposed to talk to about closed issues anymore? Reporters don't have any control over their own issues once closed. Anyway, these are the ones that I posted, I'm sure Kyle's closing-with-worthless-canned-text rampage has affected others as well. -- [[User:Haravikk Mistral|Haravikk]]
* Review premature closure of {{jira|BUG-10965|BUG-10965|BUG-10965}}- mainly because it isn't a server, simulator or scripting issue at all, since the drift occurs on the client-side. This particular issue is also specifically a viewer-side open-development issue that I'm hoping to either find someone willing to implement or, if I can ever find the time, implement myself; also, if {{jira|BUG-10964}} is accepted then this should be too, as they're essentially two aspects of the same thing (ensuring animations display with correct timing per-viewer, so future cross-viewer features can be implemented for synchronised timing). -- [[User:Haravikk Mistral|Haravikk]]
** {{jira|BUG-10924|BUG-10924 llSubListFindList}}- this clearly comes under the remit of server/sim/scripting, so I don't know who Kyle is representing while closing the issue. However, the proposed function is very simple, actually it's just a case of adding a loop to skip items till start index is reached, then a counter to exit the function if the end index is reached, both changes that can actually be added to the existing code, with llListFindList becoming an equivalent of llSubListFindList(haystack, needle, 0, -1).
* Review premature closure of {{jira|BUG-10931|BUG-10931 Add support Ctrl-A and Ctrl-E Mac keyboard shortcuts for start/end of line}}- in what way is this "unactionable"? I have to say I'm really sick of the pathetic canned responses that closed issues get, it provides no information whatsoever as to why this issue might be "unactionable" (the wiki page is worse than useless). This is a simple keyboard shortcut, it's clearly possible to have separate Mac and Windows shortcuts, and it's a very useful shortcut to have, it's also an issue with SL's generally poor native platform support, as these shortcuts are available in most Mac programs with text-fields, yet behave completely differently in SL. In fact, having every Ctrl-shortcut from the Windows client in the Mac client was just a bad idea to begin with, as that's just now how keyboard shortcuts are done on Macs. -- [[User:Haravikk Mistral|Haravikk]]
** {{jira|BUG-10965|BUG-10965|BUG-10965}}- this is a viewer-side only issue intended for open development which I'm still hoping to find someone to implement or, if I can ever find the time, will implement myself. I don't know why it should be closed, at all, and I actually added as a result of discussion at one of these meetings.
** {{jira|BUG-10931|BUG-10931 Add support Ctrl-A and Ctrl-E Mac keyboard shortcuts for start/end of line}}- another viewer-only issue intended for open development, but I don't know who Kyle Linden is representing (no mention anywhere that I can see). It's a fairly important one as duplicating all Ctrl-key combinations onto Command-key was never a good idea in the first place, as it limits the keyspace for Mac shortcuts, and actually results in shortcuts that behave very differently to other programs; as mentioned in the JIRA issue, Ctrl-E and Ctrl-A are commonly available in most Mac programs with text-fields, but behave very differently in SL.
* Open discussion
* Open discussion


Revision as of 13:47, 6 January 2016

The Server User Group exists to provide an opportunity for discussion about server technology, annoying bugs, and feature ideas.

Schedule

Meetings are at Denby/225/25/25

Also see the calendar of public user group meetings.


Agenda

Agenda for the next user group meeting is:

  • LL developer news
  • Please review the premature closure of the following issues by Kyle Linden. I know he's not listed as a server/sim/scripting group member, but I have no idea who we're supposed to contact about closed issues as Lindens never seem to reply to IMs. I want to stress also that I am utterly sick of the pathetic canned responses that JIRA issues get when closed, because not only do they give no specific information, all they really do is link to a wiki page that is worse than useless at indicating valid reasons why an issue was closed, it's a deeply hostile process that makes me wonder why anyone bothers trying to improve SL. Anyway, sorry that these aren't all server/sim/scripting, but who the heck are we supposed to talk to about closed issues anymore? Reporters don't have any control over their own issues once closed. Anyway, these are the ones that I posted, I'm sure Kyle's closing-with-worthless-canned-text rampage has affected others as well. -- Haravikk
    • BUG-10924 llSubListFindList- this clearly comes under the remit of server/sim/scripting, so I don't know who Kyle is representing while closing the issue. However, the proposed function is very simple, actually it's just a case of adding a loop to skip items till start index is reached, then a counter to exit the function if the end index is reached, both changes that can actually be added to the existing code, with llListFindList becoming an equivalent of llSubListFindList(haystack, needle, 0, -1).
    • BUG-10965- this is a viewer-side only issue intended for open development which I'm still hoping to find someone to implement or, if I can ever find the time, will implement myself. I don't know why it should be closed, at all, and I actually added as a result of discussion at one of these meetings.
    • BUG-10931 Add support Ctrl-A and Ctrl-E Mac keyboard shortcuts for start/end of line- another viewer-only issue intended for open development, but I don't know who Kyle Linden is representing (no mention anywhere that I can see). It's a fairly important one as duplicating all Ctrl-key combinations onto Command-key was never a good idea in the first place, as it limits the keyspace for Mac shortcuts, and actually results in shortcuts that behave very differently to other programs; as mentioned in the JIRA issue, Ctrl-E and Ctrl-A are commonly available in most Mac programs with text-fields, but behave very differently in SL.
  • Open discussion

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