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User talk:Torley Linden

2009-11-20T21:44:58Z

Saw this...:

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	Saw [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&diff=658892&oldid=658562 this] made you [[Template:TOC\|this]]. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka\|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka\|contribs]])</small></sup> 07:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)		Saw [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&diff=658892&oldid=658562 this] made you [[Template:TOC\|this]]. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka\|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka\|contribs]])</small></sup> 07:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
	* Sorcery! Seriously, thanks for your coding guruness. Oh! Can you provide some usage examples on that page, please? :) <font color="#ff0080">'''- [[Image:Torley-favicon.png]] [[User:Torley Linden\|Torley]] on 2009-11-18 @ 7:36 AM PST'''</font>		* Sorcery! Seriously, thanks for your coding guruness. Oh! Can you provide some usage examples on that page, please? :) <font color="#ff0080">'''- [[Image:Torley-favicon.png]] [[User:Torley Linden\|Torley]] on 2009-11-18 @ 7:36 AM PST'''</font>
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		+	:Sure but i can't show them in action (can't have multiple TOCs in an article). -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka\|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka\|contribs]])</small></sup> 21:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

	== Inworld policy on bots ==		== Inworld policy on bots ==

Sicherheit von Second Life - ein Überblick

2009-11-20T21:18:52Z

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-	Diese Seite wird momentan von unserem Community Translator-Team übersetzt. Den Original-Artikel finden Sie [~~hhttps~~://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:~~Inworld_policy_on_bots~~ hier]. Sobald die deutsche Übersetzung bereit ist, werden wir sie an dieser Stelle veröffentlichen. Bitte kommen Sie in ein paar Tagen wieder!	+	Diese Seite wird momentan von unserem Community Translator-Team übersetzt. Den Original-Artikel finden Sie [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:An_Overview_of_Second_Life_Security hier]. Sobald die deutsche Übersetzung bereit ist, werden wir sie an dieser Stelle veröffentlichen. Bitte kommen Sie in ein paar Tagen wieder!


	Falls Sie Spaß am Übersetzen haben, schauen Sie bitte beim [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Translation_Project#GERMAN Community Translation Projekt] vorbei. Wir freuen uns über neue Helfer!		Falls Sie Spaß am Übersetzen haben, schauen Sie bitte beim [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Community_Translation_Project#GERMAN Community Translation Projekt] vorbei. Wir freuen uns über neue Helfer!

User:Dzonatas Sol

2009-11-20T21:07:58Z

Snowglobe: Debian Squeeze AMD 64:

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	Issues:		Issues:

-	* {{JIRA\|SNOW-240}} At this time there is no jsoncpp debian package, so configure fails on this. Downloaded and compiled from sources noted in jira issue. Copied include files to /usr/local/include and libs to /usr/local/lib for temporary fix. ~~Maybe reopen issue?~~	+	* {{JIRA\|SNOW-240}} At this time there is no jsoncpp debian package, so configure fails on this. Downloaded and compiled from sources noted in jira issue. Copied include files to /usr/local/include and libs to /usr/local/lib for temporary fix.
	* {{JIRA\|SNOW-360}} build error: 'skip' is not a member of 'tut::test_result' (see jira for questions and recommended patch)		* {{JIRA\|SNOW-360}} build error: 'skip' is not a member of 'tut::test_result' (see jira for questions and recommended patch)
	* {{JIRA\|SNOW-285}} build error: llqtwebkit.h: No such file or directory -- Despite this being a dependency, it should have made the configure fail like above in {{JIRA\|SNOW-240}}. The configure failure message could point to a wiki page to resolve the dependency (like an extra deb package for Debian).		* {{JIRA\|SNOW-285}} build error: llqtwebkit.h: No such file or directory -- Despite this being a dependency, it should have made the configure fail like above in {{JIRA\|SNOW-240}}. The configure failure message could point to a wiki page to resolve the dependency (like an extra deb package for Debian).

		+	...to be continued.

	{{Jira Reporter}}		{{Jira Reporter}}

User:Baz Ceawlin

2009-11-20T21:05:57Z

Baz Ceawlin:

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	</li><li> <b>Languge:</b> English		</li><li> <b>Languge:</b> English
	</li><li> <b>Birthday/Rezzday:</b> 06/02/2007		</li><li> <b>Birthday/Rezzday:</b> 06/02/2007
-	</li><li> <b>Birthplace:</b> One of ~~these~~ many OIs (who knew there were so many)	+	</li><li> <b>Birthplace:</b> One of the many OIs (who knew there were so many)
-	</li><li> <b>Home:</b> ~~Currently~~ on ~~Ewalina, but looking to buy my own Sim Soon~~	+	</li><li> <b>Home:</b> Living on a private homestead sim
	</li><li> <b>In World Skills:</b> Builder, Photographer, Textures, Event Planning and of course.. Shopping!		</li><li> <b>In World Skills:</b> Builder, Photographer, Textures, Event Planning and of course.. Shopping!
	</li><li> <b>Real Life:</b> Marketing, Advertising & Promotions Professional, Graphic Designer		</li><li> <b>Real Life:</b> Marketing, Advertising & Promotions Professional, Graphic Designer
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	<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Jake's Club </span></h2>		<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Jake's Club </span></h2>
	<div style="padding: 0.5em">		<div style="padding: 0.5em">
		+	As owners of Jakes Club Reosrt, Jake and I strives to bring you the best retail, club, and over all experience in second life. This is not always easy to do; luckily we have a great staff to help us!
		+
		+	While the Jake's club resort caters to the GLBT community, everybody is welcome. We were built on a foundation of respect, inclusiveness, and fun, and we breathe these core values in to all we do.
		+
		+	If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact JakeC Hotshot or Baz Ceawlin.
		+

User:Dzonatas Sol

2009-11-20T21:03:41Z

Snowglobe: Debian Squeeze AMD 64:

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	__NOTOC__		__NOTOC__
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		+	== "Your Viewer; Your Imagination" ==
		+
	[http://jira.dzonux.net JIRA @ Dzonux.net] - Issue tracker for related open-source developments:		[http://jira.dzonux.net JIRA @ Dzonux.net] - Issue tracker for related open-source developments:
	* User-Scripted Metaverse Viewer:		* User-Scripted Metaverse Viewer:
-	** "Your Viewer; Your Imagination"
	** [http://jira.dzonux.net:8080/browse/MVS MonoVida Studio]		** [http://jira.dzonux.net:8080/browse/MVS MonoVida Studio]
		+	** [[Alternate_viewers#MonoVida_Studio\|Alternate Viewer]]
	* Client Script & Persistent Data Objects (prior ref:[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-98])		* Client Script & Persistent Data Objects (prior ref:[https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-98])
-	* ~~eCommerce~~	+
-	* OO-~~REST~~	+
-	* ...	+
		+	== Snowglobe: Debian Squeeze AMD 64 ==
		+
		+	Here are my notes about the compilation experience:
		+
		+	Squeeze comes with cmake 2.6.0, but the experimental version is required:
		+	sudo apt-get install -t sid cmake
		+
		+	Specific cmake builds wouldn't be needed if an universal binary was used, instead.
		+
		+	Downloaded and unpacked Snowglobe source (1.2.4.3008). Not gonna worry about git/hg/svn matters for this annotation.
		+
		+	Downloaded related files as specified in doc/asset_urls.txt: MD5, ART, LIBS_LINUXI386 (for any text/.h files, or cross-compilation to m32)
		+
		+	$ cd indra
		+	$ ./develop.py --standalone -m64 configure
		+	$ cd viewer-linux-x86_64-relwithdebinfo
		+	$ make
		+
		+	Issues:
		+
		+	* {{JIRA\|SNOW-240}} At this time there is no jsoncpp debian package, so configure fails on this. Downloaded and compiled from sources noted in jira issue. Copied include files to /usr/local/include and libs to /usr/local/lib for temporary fix. Maybe reopen issue?
		+	* {{JIRA\|SNOW-360}} build error: 'skip' is not a member of 'tut::test_result' (see jira for questions and recommended patch)
		+	* {{JIRA\|SNOW-285}} build error: llqtwebkit.h: No such file or directory -- Despite this being a dependency, it should have made the configure fail like above in {{JIRA\|SNOW-240}}. The configure failure message could point to a wiki page to resolve the dependency (like an extra deb package for Debian).
		+
		+
	{{Jira Reporter}}		{{Jira Reporter}}

User:Baz Ceawlin

2009-11-20T20:46:23Z

Baz Ceawlin:

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	This is a great link for basic resources and information:		This is a great link for basic resources and information:
-	~~http~~://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/~~Basic_Resource_Toolbox~~	+	https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Knowledge_Base

	<div id="box">		<div id="box">
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	<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Jake's Club </span></h2>		<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Jake's Club </span></h2>
	<div style="padding: 0.5em">		<div style="padding: 0.5em">
-	~~I am a new mentor and am just beginning this chapter of my Second Life. For now, I will say this... I find that helping people (especially those who want to learn) is truly rewarding.~~

-	Over the past year, I have come across a handful of new residents which I felt compelled to take under my wing. They were eager to learn and I was more that willing to patiently teach them all I could. These are the experiences that make Second Life so personally rewarding. I hope to find many more opportunities as a mentor.

	<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Being A Second Life Mentor </span></h2>		<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Being A Second Life Mentor </span></h2>
	<div style="padding: 0.5em">		<div style="padding: 0.5em">
-	~~I am a new mentor and am just beginning this chapter of my~~ Second Life. ~~For now~~, I ~~will say this... I find~~ that ~~helping~~ people ~~(especially those who want~~ to ~~learn) is truly rewarding~~.	+	Well, the official Second Life Mentor program has come to an end. As mentor, I found that I was far less involved in the activities of the official program as I was in just assisting people I came across that needed help. I will miss the afternoons when I log on to a complete free time and pop over to a help/ orientation Island to assisting New Residents in their first hours.

-	~~Over the past year,~~ I have come across a handful of new residents which I felt compelled to take under my wing. They were eager to learn and I was more that willing to patiently teach them all I could. These are the experiences that make Second Life so personally rewarding. I ~~hope to find many more opportunities as~~ a mentor.	+	I find that helping people (especially those who want to learn) is truly rewarding. I have come across a handful of new residents which I felt compelled to take under my wing. They were eager to learn and I was more that willing to patiently teach them all I could. These are the experiences that make Second Life so personally rewarding. Even though Linden Lab has disbanded the official mentor program, I will always be a mentor to those who need me.

User:Rockridge Constantine

2009-11-20T20:26:04Z

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	'''This is future web wiki presence for Rockridge Constantine (aka Rocky)'''		'''This is future web wiki presence for Rockridge Constantine (aka Rocky)'''

-	~~[[File:http://secondlife.com/app/image/c60116c2-83ac-7924-b485-a07a84384edc/1.jpg]]~~

	--[[User:Rockridge Constantine\|Rockridge Constantine]] 01:06, 11 September 2009 (UTC)		--[[User:Rockridge Constantine\|Rockridge Constantine]] 01:06, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Baz Ceawlin

2009-11-20T20:24:21Z

Baz Ceawlin:

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	\|}}		\|}}
		+	{{Plurker}}
		+	{{Tweeter}}
		+
		+	<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Stuff I do in Second Life </span></h2>
		+	<div style="padding: 0.5em">
		+
		+	<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Jake's Club </span></h2>
		+	<div style="padding: 0.5em">
		+	I am a new mentor and am just beginning this chapter of my Second Life. For now, I will say this... I find that helping people (especially those who want to learn) is truly rewarding.
		+
		+	Over the past year, I have come across a handful of new residents which I felt compelled to take under my wing. They were eager to learn and I was more that willing to patiently teach them all I could. These are the experiences that make Second Life so personally rewarding. I hope to find many more opportunities as a mentor.

	<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Being A Second Life Mentor </span></h2>		<h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Being A Second Life Mentor </span></h2>

User:Rockridge Constantine

2009-11-20T20:20:29Z

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	'''This is future web wiki presence for Rockridge Constantine (aka Rocky)'''		'''This is future web wiki presence for Rockridge Constantine (aka Rocky)'''
		+
		+	[[File:http://secondlife.com/app/image/c60116c2-83ac-7924-b485-a07a84384edc/1.jpg]]

	--[[User:Rockridge Constantine\|Rockridge Constantine]] 01:06, 11 September 2009 (UTC)		--[[User:Rockridge Constantine\|Rockridge Constantine]] 01:06, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Baz Ceawlin

2009-11-20T20:16:30Z

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-	<p>My name is Baz Ceawlin, ~~I'm 40 years old (OMG! how did that happen).~~	+	<p>My name is Baz Ceawlin,
	I live in California, USA. </p>		I live in California, USA. </p>

Linden Lab Official talk:What's Concierge service and how do I get it?

2009-11-20T19:59:54Z

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	The official answer does explain "How to get" concierge service, but it does not adequately explain what it is or what it is used for.		The official answer does explain "How to get" concierge service, but it does not adequately explain what it is or what it is used for.

-	A full list of what this service can be used for would be very helpful.	+	A full list of what this service can be used for would be very helpful. {{unsigned\|Arrehn Oberlander\|16:30, 20 November 2009}}
		+
		+	:Hey Arrehn :-)
		+	:I doubt that someone will read your suggestion here but there is a way to submit suggestions for articles. The header says:
		+	::''Have a suggestion to improve this page? '''[http://bit.ly/llowufoo Contact us.]'''''
		+	:I think the idea is good and would like to see it too :-) Could you send it via that box?
		+	:--[[File:Zai_signature.png\|45px\|link=User:Zai Lynch]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</small></sup> 19:59, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Enterprise Team/Office Hours/Tuesday

2009-11-20T19:55:13Z

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	Location: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Cirano/106/29/25		Location: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Cirano/106/29/25

-	So, the next one is Thursday, ~~Nov 19th~~ at ~~9am~~ PT. Mark your cals.	+	So, the next one is Thursday, Dec 3rd, at 4:30pm PT. Mark your cals.

	Also, we'll be doing special office hours over the coming weeks as we roll out "Nebraska" (aka: the behind the firewall version of SL). More on that topic soon!		Also, we'll be doing special office hours over the coming weeks as we roll out "Nebraska" (aka: the behind the firewall version of SL). More on that topic soon!

	}}		}}

User:Rika Linden/Office Hours

2009-11-20T19:51:36Z

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	<!-- See https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Template:Office_Hours/Documentation for a manual on how to change office hours -->		<!-- See https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Template:Office_Hours/Documentation for a manual on how to change office hours -->
	{{Office Hours/Userpage}}		{{Office Hours/Userpage}}
-	【お知らせ】 2009/10/~~31（日本時間）のオフィスアワーはお休みさせていただきます~~	+	【お知らせ】 2009/11/28（日本時間）のオフィスアワーはお休みさせていただきます

	== まとめリンク ==		== まとめリンク ==
	<div style="padding: 0.5em">		<div style="padding: 0.5em">
		+	*[[User:Rika_Linden/Office_Hours/2009_11_20_Transcript\|2009年11月20日]]　- CTメンバー向けの冬をテーマにしたスクリーンショット募集中
	*[[User:Rika_Linden/Office_Hours/2009_11_6_Transcript\|2009年11月6日]]　- [http://work.secondlife.com/ja-JP/products/server/ Second Life Enterpriseベータ版]が発表されました		*[[User:Rika_Linden/Office_Hours/2009_11_6_Transcript\|2009年11月6日]]　- [http://work.secondlife.com/ja-JP/products/server/ Second Life Enterpriseベータ版]が発表されました
	*[[User:Rika_Linden/Office_Hours/2009_10_23_Transcript\|2009年10月23日]]　- Viewer 2.0のテスト参加申込者向けアップデートと容姿変更画面の英語独特の言い回しの日本語訳		*[[User:Rika_Linden/Office_Hours/2009_10_23_Transcript\|2009年10月23日]]　- Viewer 2.0のテスト参加申込者向けアップデートと容姿変更画面の英語独特の言い回しの日本語訳

User:Rika Linden/Office Hours/2009 11 20 Transcript

2009-11-20T19:49:23Z

Created page with '<div id='box'> == 参加者一覧(敬称略アルファベット順) == <div style='padding: 0.5em'> *Fake Fitzgerald *[[User:Giorno Brando|Giorno Bran...'

New page

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== 参加者一覧(敬称略アルファベット順) ==
<div style='padding: 0.5em'>
*[[User:Fake Fitzgerald|Fake Fitzgerald]]
*[[User:Giorno Brando|Giorno Brando]]
*[[User:kensan Hotshot|kensan Hotshot]]
*[[User:Naoya Bellic|Naoya Bellic]]
*[[User:Nock Forager|Nock Forager]]
*[[User:Ramona Forcella|Ramona Forcella]]
*[[User:Rika Linden|Rika Linden]]
*[[User:Tomoneko Mayo|Tomoneko Mayo]]
*[[User:Youri Ashton|Youri Ashton]]
*[[User:yukichi Noel|yukichi Noel]]
</div></div>

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== 2009年11月20日（金）SLT　まとめ ==
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* 冬のスクリーンショットをCTメンバー専用Jiraで募集中です。
* Viewer 2.0のNDAに同意された方でGlossaryにアクセス希望の場合はお知らせください。Ramzi Lindenが招待送ります。
* ナレッジベースのURLが英語URL/jaと日本語URLの両方になりました。
* スペイン、イタリア、ポルトガル語の公式サイトがオープンしました。
* 感謝祭で来週のオフィスアワーはお休みです。

User:Tal Chernov

2009-11-20T17:34:00Z

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	* [[https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Second_Life_Furry_Mentor Second Life Furry Mentor]]		* [[https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Second_Life_Furry_Mentor Second Life Furry Mentor]]
	* [http://world.secondlife.com/group/f8f1fc63-f160-9abd-6fb2-3441653a2892 Robot Chicken]		* [http://world.secondlife.com/group/f8f1fc63-f160-9abd-6fb2-3441653a2892 Robot Chicken]
		+	* [http://world.secondlife.com/group/0eac42ec-24a9-a07c-bd50-5ca9d20f3902 Furries of Zindra]

	==Helpful Links==		==Helpful Links==
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	* [[http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Volunteer_Portal Volunteer Portal]]		* [[http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Volunteer_Portal Volunteer Portal]]
	* [https://secure-web10.secondlife.com/account/verification.php Second Life Age Verification]		* [https://secure-web10.secondlife.com/account/verification.php Second Life Age Verification]
-		+	* [https://xstreetsl.com/ XstreetSL]

	==Languages==		==Languages==

Volunteer Portal

2009-11-20T17:10:39Z

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	{{Help/Box\|Note!\|Linden Lab closed SL Mentor applications back in 2008. This wiki is a resource for Volunteers to both find and share knowledge in a centralized place. In the interest of transparency, it is also accessible to anyone. }}		{{Help/Box\|Note!\|Linden Lab closed SL Mentor applications back in 2008. This wiki is a resource for Volunteers to both find and share knowledge in a centralized place. In the interest of transparency, it is also accessible to anyone. }}

-	{{Help/Box\|~~Upcoming~~\|There ~~will be~~ a Mentor meeting Wednesday, Nov 18th at 9am PST. ~~There will be a blog post that day as well, for those Mentors who can~~ not make it.	+	{{Help/Box\|New!\|There has been a Mentor meeting Wednesday, Nov 18th at 9am PST. If you could not make it to the meeting, there is a [https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/volunteers/blog/2009/11/18/volunteering-in-second-life-now-and-in-the-future blog post] about the meeting.
-		+	}}
-	~~Location: SL Volunteer Islands Center Stage~~}}	+

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Registration API

2009-11-20T17:09:32Z

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	=== How to participate ===		=== How to participate ===
		+	Before applying, please read the section "Important limitations and conditions apply" above. In general, we only approve requests that involve: limit to estate, custom name, or registration of an organization's members behind their login or firewall. Public registration should use [[SLURL#If_the_person_doesn.27t_have_Second_Life\|DirectSLURL]].
		+
	To request participation in the beta Registration API program, submit the [http://secondlife.com/solution_providers/api/reg_form.php Registration API Request Form]. Linden Lab will contact you by email after reviewing your application. If you have had a RegAPI account that was recently closed, reapply via the [https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDVoWm5vOUVqeDdaelEzc0twZFJpX3c6MA RegAPI Renewal Form].		To request participation in the beta Registration API program, submit the [http://secondlife.com/solution_providers/api/reg_form.php Registration API Request Form]. Linden Lab will contact you by email after reviewing your application. If you have had a RegAPI account that was recently closed, reapply via the [https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDVoWm5vOUVqeDdaelEzc0twZFJpX3c6MA RegAPI Renewal Form].

Linden Lab Official talk:What's Concierge service and how do I get it?

2009-11-20T16:30:15Z

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The official answer does explain "How to get" concierge service, but it does not adequately explain what it is or what it is used for.

A full list of what this service can be used for would be very helpful.

Default Private Region RAW Files

2009-11-20T15:58:13Z

changing links

Talk:Default Private Region RAW Files

2009-11-20T15:52:58Z

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-	The download links on this page appear to be broken at the moment; clicking them results in a page with the message "Invalid deptID in URL. Please make sure you have the entire, correct URL."	+	The download links on this page appear to be broken at the moment; clicking them results in a page with the message "Invalid deptID in URL. Please make sure you have the entire, correct URL." {{unsigned\|Laurie Stilman\|15:32, 20 November 2009}}
		+	:Hi Laurie!
		+	:I'll do some research and forward to the problem to the mailing list. I hope it will be resolved soon. Thank you '''very much''' for reporting it!
		+	:--[[File:Zai_signature.png\|45px\|link=User:Zai Lynch]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</small></sup> 15:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	:It appears that this is one of the old Parature headaches... As a temporary workaround, please browse to [https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4022 the parature article] and download them from there. I'll poke the Doc Team to considder to upload the files elsewhere. --[[File:Zai_signature.png\|45px\|link=User:Zai Lynch]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</small></sup> 15:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Blondin Linden

2009-11-20T15:44:16Z

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	* When you open a tag in HTML (like the <code><nowiki><ul style="-moz-column-count:3; -webkit-column-count:3; column-count:3;"></nowiki></code>), you need to '''close''' that tag again somewhere (in this case with <code><nowiki></ul></nowiki></code>). Otherwise it might result in a pretty messed up output :-)		* When you open a tag in HTML (like the <code><nowiki><ul style="-moz-column-count:3; -webkit-column-count:3; column-count:3;"></nowiki></code>), you need to '''close''' that tag again somewhere (in this case with <code><nowiki></ul></nowiki></code>). Otherwise it might result in a pretty messed up output :-)
	I restored the log at [[User:Blondin Linden/3rd Party Viewer Brown Bag: Session 1 09 Nov 09]]. In case you removed it for another reason than it's look, then: '''sorry!''' and please delete it again. <br>Cheers :-) --[[File:Zai_signature.png\|45px\|link=User:Zai Lynch]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</small></sup> 14:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)		I restored the log at [[User:Blondin Linden/3rd Party Viewer Brown Bag: Session 1 09 Nov 09]]. In case you removed it for another reason than it's look, then: '''sorry!''' and please delete it again. <br>Cheers :-) --[[File:Zai_signature.png\|45px\|link=User:Zai Lynch]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</small></sup> 14:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== iFrames & LLO ==
		+
		+	Hi Blondin :-)<br>
		+	I'm not sure if these kinds of comments are appreciated or not. Please let me know when it bothers you...<br>
		+	I'm having two remarks on the most recent edits:
		+	*There's a rather huge difference between [[Linden Lab Official/Test]] & [[Linden Lab Official:Test]]. It seems to be only a colon vs. slash thing, but it is in fact a whole different namespace. Namespaces on MediaWiki's can hold their very own rules on how they treat content added to them. For example, the '''File:''' can store files (images, sounds, etc., depending on the settings), '''MediaWiki:''' namespace stores Wiki settings which can be edited by administrators (CSS files and such), etc. etc. The '''Linden Lab Official''' namespace is a custom namespace that is automatically write protected (only administrators can edit it) and it also automatically adds a header and footer with legal information. The article which Kate created and which you're editing, however, is '''not''' in that namespace. It ended up in the "main" namespace and everyone can sneak in and change it at their own will. (You can read [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces more about namespaces in the MediaWiki documentation].)
		+	*Like you already experiences, adding iFrames to the Wiki doesn't work with its current settings. You'll need something like [http://www.mediawikiwidgets.org/Widget:Iframe Widget:Iframe] to use iFrames in a wiki page (just copy and paste the widget code to [[Widget:Iframe]] and then use it like described in the related documentation). However, I could imagine that such a widget would ring some alarm bells for the more paranoid people (phishing). I'm almost sure that [[User:Rob Linden\|Rob]] wouldn't have liked it in case he'd still be in charge. But as we're seeing an influx on more exotic widgets lately, that policy might have changed.
		+	--[[File:Zai_signature.png\|45px\|link=User:Zai Lynch]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</small></sup> 15:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Default Private Region RAW Files

2009-11-20T15:32:05Z

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-	~~Doc Team Test Page~~	+

User:Azwaldo Villota

2009-11-20T13:06:21Z

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	Examining [http://instructionalalchemy.com/blog/usability/ usability] and effective instructional design.<br />		Examining [http://instructionalalchemy.com/blog/usability/ usability] and effective instructional design.<br />
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	==Wiki Entries of Interest==		==Wiki Entries of Interest==
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-	* [[Music streams]]	+	* [[User's Manual]]
		+	* [[Advanced_menu]]
		+	* [[Music streams]] List of Internet radio stations, for Parcel Music setting
	* [[LSL Portal]] \| [[LSL 101]] \| [[LSL 101/A Gentle Introduction]]		* [[LSL Portal]] \| [[LSL 101]] \| [[LSL 101/A Gentle Introduction]]
	* [[User Experience Interest Group]]		* [[User Experience Interest Group]]

Message of the Day

2009-11-20T12:09:32Z

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	== 2009-11-xx ==		== 2009-11-xx ==
		+	* Support Kiva.org by participating in the Winterfest Wreath Competition! End Monday, November 23rd at 12 PM (noon) PST. CLICK HERE: http://bit.ly/4atrQO
	* Support Kiva.org by participating in the Winterfest Wreath Competition! A Helpful Hand Makes a World of Difference - CLICK HERE: http://bit.ly/14uuHu		* Support Kiva.org by participating in the Winterfest Wreath Competition! A Helpful Hand Makes a World of Difference - CLICK HERE: http://bit.ly/14uuHu
	* Find and share fun winter-themed activities and events on Facebook! CLICK HERE: http://bit.ly/EuFQh		* Find and share fun winter-themed activities and events on Facebook! CLICK HERE: http://bit.ly/EuFQh

LlAllowInventoryDrop

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	.... Inventory dropping can still be done, but it is restricted only to people with modify permissions to that prim. Note that people with modify rights to your (modifiable) stuff can do this anyway, as can you, even without the presence of llAllowInventoryDrop. Note as well that even if you own the prim, but don't have modify rights to it, you cannot drop anything at all into it, ever, unless the creator put in it an llAllowInventoryDrop(TRUE) first before passing it to you.		.... Inventory dropping can still be done, but it is restricted only to people with modify permissions to that prim. Note that people with modify rights to your (modifiable) stuff can do this anyway, as can you, even without the presence of llAllowInventoryDrop. Note as well that even if you own the prim, but don't have modify rights to it, you cannot drop anything at all into it, ever, unless the creator put in it an llAllowInventoryDrop(TRUE) first before passing it to you.

-	(Note as well that if you have a prim that you don't have mod rights to, but that the creator did set an llAllowInventoryDrop(TRUE) in, that even though you can drop stuff in, you will never be able to ~~extract~~ it! You can~~'t even delete the stuff out of~~ it! )	+	(Note as well that if you have a prim that you don't have mod rights to, but that the creator did set an llAllowInventoryDrop(TRUE) in, that even though you can drop stuff in, you will never be able to delete it! You can however move it to your inventory.)

	When llAllowInventoryDrop is set to FALSE, the event that occurs is:		When llAllowInventoryDrop is set to FALSE, the event that occurs is:

Ex SL Mentors

2009-11-20T06:57:12Z

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On the 18th November 2009 SL Mentors were advised that they were being disbanded, this was a black day in the SL Mentor calendar and one that will go down in infamy. This is all I will say about the 18th November 2009. It is now time to move forward.

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As a result of this earth shattering news SL Mentors are splintering into small groups.

IMHO, Mentor strength lies in its unity, mentor strength lies in its accumulated knowledge. If one Mentor doesn't know the answer another will. Splintering is diluting our combined strengths.

Doc and I have created a group called '''Ex SL Mentors'''

And Yes I can use the word SL in the title, I checked with support to confirm that.
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Watch this space for more news

User:Andrew Linden/Office Hours/2009 11 19

2009-11-20T02:28:54Z

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{| cellspacing="2px" border=0 style="color: #434849;"
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #0099FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_0|[17:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Welcome to
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Linden office hours
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #003333;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_1|[17:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_2|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hi Andrew
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_3|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Cerdita Piek:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hello Andrew :)
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_4|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hey Andrew
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_5|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|hi everyone ㋡
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_6|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hi, Andrew, you beat Simon in, today
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_7|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hey Ardy, I was looking at my SLWiki office hours transcripts page today
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_8|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Uh oh.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_9|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|c.c
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_10|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|and realized that you had been adding transcripts of some of the recent hours
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_11|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I have.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_12|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'd like to thank you.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #CC9933;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_13|[17:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|JaneD DeCuir:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|rezzzing
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_14|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|You are welcome.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_15|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|does ardy get brownies?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_16|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ardy, you should be ashamed of yourself! :o
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_17|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I was wondering thoug... do you use a script to format them? Or do you do it by hand?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_18|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|If you want anything done right, at least make a start
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_19|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I found two different toos that each have their problems.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_20|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|tools
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_21|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|hello everybody
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_22|[17:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|grep?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_23|[17:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Two toos tricky?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_24|[17:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|uses grep.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_25|[17:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i hope i didn't shoot anybody
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_26|[17:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|This one looks nice but has problems when people paste in chat. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Kuraiko_Yoshikawa/SLog_Wikifier
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_27|[17:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|When it breaks I switch to this one. http://www.treekyomoon.com/wikifier.htm
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_28|[17:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ardy, were either of the tools written in python?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_29|[17:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|oh, that one is a web tool
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_30|[17:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_31|[17:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Both are web tools.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_32|[17:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I've got a script for formatting that is written in perl
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #CC9933;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_33|[17:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|JaneD DeCuir:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thats a good opportunity.... anyone around who is good in converting of asx streams to ip adresses?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_34|[17:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|however I lack enthusiasm for hacking and improving it
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_35|[17:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Thatt's why we have trainee devs
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_36|[17:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'd rather rewrite the thing in python than dig into perl
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #CC9933;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_37|[17:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|JaneD DeCuir:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|IM me if you can and like to do it... later
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #CC9933;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_38|[17:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|JaneD DeCuir:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thanks
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_39|[17:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hi, Jane
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_40|[17:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|wonders if it could be done with awk alone
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_41|[17:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|How is our little Squirt doing? :D
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_42|[17:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|And will we get a chance to meet him?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_43|[17:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I didn't make it to all the meetings. I think I have filled in all of them I did catch.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_44|[17:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Simon says he'll be late to this meeting.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_45|[17:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I have the missing transcripts.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_46|[17:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I kinda liked your formatting better than the old one... more terse formatting
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_47|[17:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|although, what I would really like is per-speaker colorization
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_48|[17:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|which is why I was wondering if you had a script or not
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_49|[17:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Someone had that for Babbage's hours.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_50|[17:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|u will end up with a rainbow:)
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_51|[17:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Yes.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_52|[17:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Would it create links to the user:s?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_53|[17:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yes, i used some web tool
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_54|[17:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|And we'll put your words in purple :)
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_55|[17:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|If we had persistant colors per speaker maybe we could coordinate our chats to make special patterns.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_56|[17:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Put Andrew's words in red, that he may speak like Jesus
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_57|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Aww, I was looking forward to purple.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_58|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I claim Navy.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_59|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|in this client lindens speak with a different colour by default
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_60|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think I'll put mine in a separate FoNt
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_61|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(radegast)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_62|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|so, if my words come out in read i speak like jesus? really?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_63|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|out inred*
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_64|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|any idea when this issue will be resolved its been open for a long time: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-12395
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #00CCCC;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_65|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Paid Classifieds
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|are not showing up in the right frame in ALL search
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_66|[17:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|There are bibles, with the words of Jesus Red, not Read, I'm afraid
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_67|[17:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|read was atypo:)
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_68|[17:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That looks like a viewer issue Patnad - we deal with the server here :)
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_69|[17:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ok, so I finally assigned MISC-3077 to me. I've got a branch and there will be three of us LL devs working on bits of it on the side, for the next few weeks.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #CC00CC;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_70|[17:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|List of
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Linden-Confirmed Easy Changes/Additions With Large Returns
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_71|[17:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|cheers
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_72|[17:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|the meeting mention technicals issues as well....
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_73|[17:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I won't get all of the linked issues, but we'll each pick a few and then close the project in time for server-1.36.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_75|[17:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|suspects SVC-93 will be easier than svc-22
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #990000;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_76|[17:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|ROTATION and
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|llSetRot incorrectly implemented for child prims
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #CC6600;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_77|[17:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Vehicles crossing
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|region borders aren't always treated as vehicles and can get incorrectly returned if the destination parcel is no-entry or parcel-full
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_78|[17:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That's fine with me Andrew. I believe I mentioned my votes last time.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_80|[17:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Not all of the ones on there are issues I would consider "top priority."
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_81|[17:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Go ahead and change the priorities on the list. That might be helpful.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_82|[17:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|What priority would you prefer them be set to?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_83|[17:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well, the ones you really want set higher than "normal"
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_84|[17:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|mmmm
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_85|[17:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|issue with snow
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_86|[17:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|media plugin missing
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_87|[17:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|We'll also be selecting them based on how easy they are, but they're all supposed to be pretty easy, as per the title.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_88|[17:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Fury, I know. Working on it.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_89|[17:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Any that turn out to be much harder than we expected we'll unlink.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_90|[17:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|okie
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_91|[17:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I don't think much has changed since you last audited it. The changes that have been made have been passed through you first, to my knowledge.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_92|[17:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Just keep going. It reloads the plugin manager.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_93|[17:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That is, if they are too hard for the project.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_94|[17:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|A sepeate Meta, for not so easy changes?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_95|[17:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Yes, just saying that things aren't alwasy as easy as we expect. However I'm pretty sure these are all easy.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_96|[17:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|No problem Andrew - I'm ecstatic that it'll be worked on.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_97|[17:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Arawn, leave that separate meta for later. Don't create it now.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #996666;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_98|[17:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Saijanai Kuhn:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I missed the context of the discussion... what are easy?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_99|[17:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|MISC-3077
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_100|[17:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Saijanai, we're talking about MISC-3077
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #996666;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_101|[17:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Saijanai Kuhn:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thanks
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_102|[17:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-3077
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #CC00CC;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_103|[17:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|List of
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Linden-Confirmed Easy Changes/Additions With Large Returns
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_104|[17:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Enticingly easy until you find why they were borked in the first place
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_105|[17:17]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well, MISC-3077 is supposed to include features, and mabye new features that are really just workarounds for bad LSL API's that cannot be changed -- for fear of breaking content.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_106|[17:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|So yeah, some of them are "borked in the first place" but the mode of fixing them is to add new calls that do what the old ones should have done in the first place.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_107|[17:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|SVC-93 as an example
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_108|[17:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ok, that's all the announcements I've got.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0000;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_109|[17:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Papa Popinjay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Anything good coming in 1.34?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_110|[17:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think we're going to link SVC-3306 to MISC-3077, or at least it will be in the same project.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #009966;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_111|[17:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Add enumeration
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|to llPassCollisions() to provide ALWAYS_PASS, PASS_IF_NOT_HANDLED, and NEVER_PASS as explicit options
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0000;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_112|[17:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Papa Popinjay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|good = new
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_113|[17:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Is simon able to talk about his secret project? :)
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_114|[17:19]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Nothing interesting in 1.34 that I know about.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_115|[17:20]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|1.34 has some internal project that is high priority from LL's perspective
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0000;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_116|[17:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Papa Popinjay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I liked the old days where new servers meant new features. :(
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_117|[17:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|SEC issues?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_118|[17:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|although, I suspect many here would find it uninteresting. That's about all I can say about it. It is some project that we're not supposed to talk about yet.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_119|[17:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I mention it, not to build up your curiosity, but just to explain why server-1.34 is a kind of an odd release.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_120|[17:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Odd?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_121|[17:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Nothing much will be said about what's in it, you mean?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_122|[17:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The project is important enough that server-1.34 will be branching off of 1.34, rather than the trunk codebase.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_123|[17:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Branching off 1.34?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_124|[17:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The reason for that is trunk has picked up some smaller projects and changes that they don't want to delay the improtant project.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_125|[17:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|hence they are avoiding those changes, leaving them for 1.36
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0000;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_126|[17:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Papa Popinjay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'm sorry for the rearrange, but i must go.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_127|[17:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|er... I meant branching off of 1.32
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_128|[17:23]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well, if it's important, Isuppose that's a good thing.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_129|[17:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|If we find 1.34 in Aditi, wo't that spill beans?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_130|[17:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|tc
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_131|[17:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Psi Merlin:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Which makes it tricky to help test on Aditi without some clues as to what to look for.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_132|[17:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yes Arawn, it might spill the beans. Dunno what they are going to do about that.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_133|[17:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Will the change be that noticeable?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_134|[17:24]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Or is it more just something we'll notice if things go wrong?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_135|[17:25]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Not really. It isn't anything I find very interesting.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_136|[17:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|and I think it is geared more for new residents rather than long-time residents
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_137|[17:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|nods
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_138|[17:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I've got some important bugs to fix -- some perms problems and some linkability bug.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_139|[17:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Oh
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_140|[17:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That's what I wanted to metnion.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF33CC;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_141|[17:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|You decline
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Club Zero Gravity from A group member named Ranchan Weidman.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_142|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|should I find fixes for those they would go into 1.34
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_143|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Disintegrating ball rookms?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_144|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Linking is broken, yes :
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_145|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Is that SVC-5002?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #999966;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_146|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Linking rules
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|for large objects broken under server 1.32
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_147|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That's it I think.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_148|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah, that one
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #663366;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_149|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|s amazed
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|that he rememberred it
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_150|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I was able to link things at a max distance of 30m
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_151|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'm going to try to look into it tomorrow morning.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_152|[17:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|it was on my list for today but I got sidetracked by something else
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_153|[17:28]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I believe, the max distance is supposed to be soemwhere around 52m
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_154|[17:28]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Is it 30*sqrt(2)?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_155|[17:28]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I can't remember.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_156|[17:28]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Yeah, that 52m sounds right
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_157|[17:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Greetings evryone
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_158|[17:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Oskar Linden has expressed disappointment in the low lever of usage on Aditi.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_159|[17:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|hi
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_160|[17:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hi, Topolina, got any commissions, yet?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_162|[17:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|not yet still looking
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_163|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Low level meaning it's apparent that very little content testing is taking place.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_164|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i just need one
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_165|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Anyway, it's like the 30m limit isn't being multiplied by the modifier.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_166|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|it is actually something like 30 * sqrt(3) + 2
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_167|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|at least
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_168|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That may be it.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_169|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|er... that is what it is supposed to be
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_170|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i guess people need incetives to go to beta
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_171|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|incentives*
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #CC66FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_172|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|office hours
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|is half over
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_173|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|it would help if people did not have to recreate their content there
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_174|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Nah, that comes out to 111m -- but I'll be happy to take that :D
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_175|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|There should be a sim crash party, each release, to test for loading
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_176|[17:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|could it be possible to aquire some land on the beta grid ?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_177|[17:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|if they had access to current inventories, then it might be used more
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_178|[17:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|also, now that emerald has temp uplaods, that would stop even more ppl from going
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_179|[17:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|There are sandboxes everywhere Patnad - you probably wouldn't need to purchase land unless you were testing a bug.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_180|[17:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|not only u have to reacreate it there, but once u make it work to have to recrate it when u come boack to the manin
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_181|[17:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|lonetorus Habilis, contact Oskar to get updated.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_182|[17:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Dan Linden had to change the name of the "Crash Me" region to "Don't Crash Me".
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_183|[17:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|well i might like to get some land for private purpose testing.. some place to keep some object i have
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_184|[17:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|on aditi?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_185|[17:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|^andrew
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_186|[17:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|People were crashing it and our #support and #grid_maintenance teams have some automated tools that were figuring out who was crashing regions and kicking them.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_187|[17:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i was wondering where crash me went on agni
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_188|[17:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ooops
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_189|[17:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|also on beta if u run out of funds u r introuble
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_190|[17:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think "Crash Me" on agni (main grid) was moved. On aditi (preview) it is still available.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_191|[17:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think... gotta doublecheck my email.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_192|[17:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|moved?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_193|[17:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Don't we get BL$5000 added to our accounts at snapsnot?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_194|[17:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|and are we not supposed to crash it any more, kinda thought that was the whole purpose
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_195|[17:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah, according to the email I got "Crash Me" has been moved to aditi (Preview grid)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_196|[17:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ah ok
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_197|[17:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Longer return times, on the Sandboxes, would be nice, for Aditi
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_198|[17:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ANY problems you have with using Adidi, take to Oskare Linden. He is asking for help making it more useful.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_199|[17:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Oskar Linden
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_200|[17:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think you can crash the one on aditi. We don't have as much automated scrutiny on aditi.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_201|[17:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The scutiny should still be automated, but unenforced, like volumedetect does for collisisons
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_202|[17:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yes, you're supposed to get L$5000 on aditi
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_203|[17:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|some people didn't go to crashme to crash it, they were going there to test some thing that they were not sure if it would crash the sim or not. me included
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_204|[17:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|however, we no longer take big snapshots I think... they are taking too long
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_205|[17:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|we now have tools for migrating individuals to aditi
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_206|[17:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Right.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_207|[17:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Again, if you need updated, tell Oskar.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_208|[17:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I don't know the channel for getting your aditi account/inventory updated
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_209|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Oskar Linden would probably be happy to help you.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_210|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|woners if Oskar might automate that, to update without actually reading
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_211|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Andrew, I've updated the MISC-3077 JIRA. I put the "important" ones at critical, because there were one or two "major" ones I wasn't comfortable with putting down a grade. People tend to complain more about downgrading a JIRA than they do about upgrading it, hehe.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_212|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|try talkig to vektor linden
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_213|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|If he gets enough IMs asking for updates he will work with Lil to automate.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_214|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ha
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_215|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hey there Fisher
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_216|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hey
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_217|[17:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Alternatively, if anyone really wanted to get to aditi you can send me email -- I can do it, but no gaurantees on how fast I'll be
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_218|[17:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Aren't most of those really showstoppers?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_219|[17:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|if it is during the weekday I can probably do it within a few hours
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_220|[17:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I can also do it
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_221|[17:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Of the MISC-3077s? Maybe, but I think critical is clear enough.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_222|[17:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|But, Oskar is the guy
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_223|[17:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ok Sebastian, thanks for the prioritization
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_224|[17:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Fisher can also update your aditi account.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_225|[17:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|wondersif Oskar is Bald and golden
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_226|[17:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|What does Fisher do, during working hours?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_227|[17:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Psi Merlin:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|We discussed inventory updates at beta hours today - as Ardy says ask Oskar . He was goting to discuss automation options with Lil .
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_228|[17:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'm never sure
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_229|[17:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|:-)
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_230|[17:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Do you still get paid, if it's fun?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_231|[17:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|It's a perq
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_232|[17:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah there's an idea... always ask Oskar to update your aditi accounts. If he gets a flood of requests he'll automate it sooner.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_233|[17:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hehe
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_234|[17:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yep
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_235|[17:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That's what he said.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_236|[17:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|we tried that to get nyx to make a bear, but so far, no bear
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_237|[17:41]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'm too busy to automate it... I'll just start ignoring requests if they flood too high ;-)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_238|[17:41]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Psi Merlin:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|As Adry said Oskar's looking for people to test their content on Aditi and wants to help.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_239|[17:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|it could be nice if could become sim owners on beta at least for one hour
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_240|[17:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|that is in case we need to test some terraforming:)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_241|[17:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Rex, there is a spon on Here that you can terraform.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_242|[17:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|-spon + spot
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_243|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i did say "sim" owner
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_244|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hi Simon
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_245|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hello everyone ... finally out of the meeting marathon
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_246|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|hi simon
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_247|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|You want to be a land owner?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_248|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|for testing raw files?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_249|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Psi Merlin:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hi Simon
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_250|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Just in time for anothe meeting.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_251|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|what do u know. u just got to another one:)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_252|[17:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|hello
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_253|[17:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|and for other things:)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_254|[17:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hi, Simon, we were just hearing about the big changes in 1.34
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_255|[17:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|u don't really need a raw file to terraform:)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_256|[17:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|beeing sim owner give you also access to the top script feature which could be handy to test in aditi
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_257|[17:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Oh, you mean "estate owner"
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_258|[17:45]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Isn't Terraform Me just beyohnd Jack's Island?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_260|[17:45]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hmm, Falcon Linden linked an issue to 3077 - I guess I'll go ahead and up the priority on that one too.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_261|[17:45]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah or just manager actually would do
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_262|[17:45]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|right for top scripts:)
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_263|[17:45]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Don't worry about that one Sebastian, it will get done regardless.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_264|[17:45]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|All righty
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_265|[17:45]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|there is a terraforme sim on beta?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_266|[17:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Maybe a pillar, in Crash Me, for anyone who wants to be an estate manager, for an hour?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_267|[17:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Rex, I don't know but again, tell Oskar what you are seting and he will take care of it.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_268|[17:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|There's a simnext to estate services, that can be terraformed, but I don't know the rules
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_269|[17:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|it's in this grid
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_270|[17:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i don't need it right now, but sometimes in the not too far away future:)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_271|[17:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Terraforming Sandbox? Is that new?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_272|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Here's a topic for discussion... one that has been kicked around in the lab over the years...
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_273|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|megaprim revolution:)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_274|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|hehe
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_275|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|We've got this "Premium Account" service. Some people opt into it, and others just use the service for free.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_276|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Who here, if anyone, is Premium?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_277|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I am.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_278|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i am not:(
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_279|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Fury is.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_280|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i am
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_281|[17:48]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I am with my alt zeusdinne
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_282|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'm not, I'd not really be able to afford it.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF0066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_283|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Psi Merlin:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I am
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_284|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|For those who are, I'm curious to know what features of Premium made you opt for it?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_285|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|im premium
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_286|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i am
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_287|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i wanted money, and i donated my tier to lusk
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_288|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I was a land owner until recently.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_289|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i had to buy land for my store..
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_290|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|well you have acces to submit tickets and forums
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_291|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|helps with land ownership
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_292|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|It's required for direct land ownership, I think
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_293|[17:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|and buy land
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_294|[17:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i also own some sim but its not required to have premium for that
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_295|[17:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ok, so land ownership, some better support options.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_296|[17:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|but now you can rent land without it in any places
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_297|[17:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Your sim is probably owned by someone else, not LL Patnad
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_298|[17:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|no i own 3 sim myself
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_299|[17:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The stipend is nice too.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_300|[17:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|u mean like being able to IM an linden and have him/her come right away to help u:)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_301|[17:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Do you pay LL for them, Patnad?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_302|[17:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The question that has been kicked around the lab over the years is: "What extra services should we add that would help people choose the premium service?"
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_303|[17:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|at one office hour at qarl's my av ghost stuck in the sim, so i could not log in again, and i was not looking into the prospect of waiting a week or two for support to handle my ticket, so i became premium to get on live support, 5 minutes later jason linden swooped in and restarted the sim
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_304|[17:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|the stipend is pretty useless i mean you pay LL top dollar to get 300L$ in exchange..
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_305|[17:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|There are lots of throttles and limits on features in SL. Mostly to balance resources.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_306|[17:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Rex, no, you don't IM a Linden for personal service. Use the support portal on the web site.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_307|[17:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|But perhaps some of those limits could be lifted for Premium. That's one idea that has been kicked around.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_308|[17:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|maybe less inventory space for non-premium ?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_309|[17:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ouch
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_310|[17:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|or more groups for premium ^^
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_311|[17:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I don't have a list of stuff on hand, but that's just an example of how capabilities could be added to make Premium more attractive.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_312|[17:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I would rather pay LL $10 to open a free account, than that, personall.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_313|[17:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|personally*
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_314|[17:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|perhaps a parcel of free land rather than just the entitlement to purchase it
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_315|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I was wondering if anyone here had ideas of things that you would like to have, and might be willing to pay premium for.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_316|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|well becoming premium give you 512sq free
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_317|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i mean you have free tier on 512sq
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_318|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|still have to buy the land though patnad
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_319|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Right, you get tier but not the land itself
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_320|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i mean actual free land
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_321|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Right, there is currently some free land, and a L$ stipend.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_322|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|If there was one thing that would entice me to become premium, it'd be the ability to purchase a homestead without having to own a full sim prior, but that's already a requirement for those who are premium.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_323|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Free lnd?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_324|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|what about having avaline for free with premium ehe
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_325|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|oh right, free tier
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_326|[17:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|andrew if u did a blog asking this question u would get a much better sampling than u can get from those present here and now:)
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_327|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Right, better voice features
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_328|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|anyone uses avaline?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_329|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|True Rex.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF0066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_330|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Psi Merlin:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Hight group limit is often mentioned
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_331|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|or free charges on xstreet as it been announced we'll have to pay for every item features
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_332|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i just use the tier to donate to a group, and it works perfectly for my needs
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_333|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i agree on better features on xstreet
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_334|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Some of these ideas have already been mentioned internally.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_335|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think the Xstreet charge one is new to me.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_336|[17:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|high group sounds good
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_337|[17:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|well deeding land to a group has its pros and cons
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #CC66FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_338|[17:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|office hours
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|is almost over
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_339|[17:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|if premium would have simpler/easier/faster way to change L$ to monies and RL currency it might help some switch to premium
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_340|[17:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|groupd need to be fixed before they're rationed.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_341|[17:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|groups*
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_342|[17:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Like, having service-dedicated groups.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_343|[17:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Groups for chat, groups for land rights, groups for notifications, etc.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_344|[17:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah why does it take 8 days to send money back to paypal its still hard for me to understand :/
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_345|[17:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Have services be opt-in.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_346|[17:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Personally, I'm not interested in nickle-and-diming the residents --> premium features should be ones that actually cost more to support
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_347|[17:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I agree with that wholeheartedly.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_348|[17:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|agreed
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_349|[17:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Frankly, I come here to pay my bills, not generate more of them.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_350|[17:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|if a change makes the whole system more efficient and the system easier to use then it should be made available to everyone
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_351|[17:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|so simpler/easier ways to to change L$ to monies should be a global improvement
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_352|[17:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|deeing land to a group has pros and cons
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_353|[17:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Definitely
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_354|[17:58]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i heard that some people get on their bank statements that they r making payments to a game site:)
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_355|[17:58]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|how terrible :)
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_356|[17:59]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|For example... script resources. Suppose we had smarter script resource balancing. Premium might give people are larger relative pecentage of the pie, or slightly better prioritization.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_357|[17:59]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Because script resources are something that cost real CPU cycles.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_358|[17:59]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Send the bank E-Mail, advising htem how profitable this game-site is, as soon as refer-A-Friend is replaced
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_359|[17:59]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yes i tend to agree with that it make sense
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_360|[17:59]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well, the problem I have with that is, say, you have X person who is a premium account, develop a script.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_361|[17:59]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|but.. you know some ppl leaving in europe by example, they live on estate sims.. where they might have tons of scripts..
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_362|[17:59]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|They sell that script, and someone on a basic account uses it, and it breaks.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_363|[18:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|u mean that everybody that is not premium will be lagged to death:(
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_364|[18:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|good point Sebastian
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_365|[18:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The person who developed it is expecting it to work, so is the person on the basic account.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_366|[18:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|that might make them change their mind and opt for a premium account
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660000;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_367|[18:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Thank you
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|for coming to Linden office hours
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_368|[18:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|and i think one of the great things about SL is that a free user can enjoy sl almost exactly the same way as a premium account, without being throttled in any way
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_369|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|No, we'd all share the lag as usual ... but if we actually allocated script/cpu resources on a per-avatar basis, we could offer a bigger slice for premium accounts
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_370|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|So you could wear more bling
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_371|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|lol
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_372|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well... lack of throttles in some places is a cause of lag and problems.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_373|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|how r newbies going to learn scripting if all their scripts r lagging:(
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_374|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|But we do really need the tools so developers can see the cost of what they make
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_375|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Yes, the possibility space is large, even for free accounts.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_376|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think Richard makes a good point.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_377|[18:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|PEople aren't going to want to stay if their first experience as a free user is a bad one.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_378|[18:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Can Parcel Owners see Top Scripts?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_379|[18:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|also i think that if tier would be lower, on mainland this would bring more ppl to get premium as well
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_380|[18:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|fwiw all the suggestions I've heard so far are boosting abilities of premium acconnts, not dropping limits on free ones
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_381|[18:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|There's an idea, allow estate holders to limit scripts to premium users only
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_382|[18:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ok, well thanks for the discussion. There aren't any serious clamping-down on free accounts in the pipeline. I was just curious about any ideas you all might have.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_383|[18:02]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Uh . . .
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_385|[18:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i think you can see if some scripts are causing lag troubles as far as i remember
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_386|[18:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|exectp the part that restricts cpu access time:(
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_387|[18:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I would wholeheartedly disagree with that one. Being able to limit scripts to premium accounts only.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_388|[18:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That's probably going to happen regardless of the premium benefits, as we've seen things get really unbalanced for parcel owners and people in a region
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_390|[18:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|How about some LSL calls that only premium accounts can compile (their compiled scripts still work for all owners)?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_391|[18:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i suppose the ultimate one would be content creation only for premium accounts but i wouldn't really support that
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_392|[18:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|uhm like which calls? llHttp and http-in by example or email ?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_393|[18:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|What kinds of calls do you refer to?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_394|[18:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I don't think we'd want to cut back on the current ability to build now for free accounts
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_395|[18:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|We have Pseudo Premies, now, who rent from other estates than mainland
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_396|[18:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|no
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_397|[18:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|andrew how r custom scripters going to be able to do cutom works if they don't have access to all the lsl functions?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_398|[18:04]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|that could make sense.. but limit some user too
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_399|[18:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That "premium only LSL calls" idea is a sort of bifurcation of the content creation set -- some get access and others do not.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_400|[18:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Longer Sandbox times?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_401|[18:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Right Rex, they'd have to go Premium to get access to the whole set under that idea.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF6699;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_402|[18:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|lonetorus Habilis:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|or how are basic accounts supposed to do advanced volunteer script work for things like burning life
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_403|[18:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Premium Users don't need sandboxes at all, though
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_404|[18:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Heh, estate side windlight for premium accounts :P
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_405|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|No, estate windlight should work for all estate owners, and the effects should be visible to all.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_406|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I have to run ... thanks for all the ideas.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_407|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Oh, I was talking about the ability to control it.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000099;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_408|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Ardy Lay:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Premium account holders do not all own land.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_409|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|How about, Estate Side Windlight for anybody, but only adjustable by estate managers?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_410|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Simon Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|See you next time folks
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_411|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thanks Simon
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_412|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ok see you Simon ㋡
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_413|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Cerdita Piek:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Thanks, Simon, take care
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_414|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Right Arawn, thats how it should work.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_415|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|sometimes is fun use them to meet people to help you sort building questions
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_416|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fury Rosewood:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|seeya simon
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_417|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i kind have a bad feeling that restricting access to specific lsl functions will become true:(
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_418|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|tc simon
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_419|[18:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I don't knw rex
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_420|[18:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yes is sad
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_421|[18:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|having more groups can make more ppl opt in also
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_422|[18:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I personally would be leerie of that one.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_423|[18:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Possibly Rex, but there are no plans for that yet.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_424|[18:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i know there is a huge list of ppl who would like that
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_425|[18:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I don't even have a good idea on what specific example calls would be in that pool.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_426|[18:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|More Groups would be good for Premium Sales, and for Lindens who hold Office Hours
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_427|[18:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Presumeably it would be "expensive" or "powerful" calls.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_428|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|WEll, Andrew, there's a problem with that too.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_429|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Let's say a premium scripter creates a script and sells a lot of them to people.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_430|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|also removing fee of xstreet listing when your premium.. can be nice idea to make ppl opt-in
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #660033;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_431|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|topolina Verino
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|waves farewell and poofes
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_432|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|the things is that scripters for higher will become a thing of the past
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_433|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah, I've got to run.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_434|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|You said that the compiled script would work regardless of owner.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_435|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Andrew Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Thanks for the discussion.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_436|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|So you could have a lot of people running around using those expensive calls.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #993300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_437|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Richard Untermeyer:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thanks Andrew
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_438|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Fisher Linden:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thanks
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_439|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thank you Andrew have a good night
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_440|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|tc andrew
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #000066;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_441|[18:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Cerdita Piek:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Thanks, Andrew, take care
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #9900FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_442|[18:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Sebastean Steamweaver:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Thanks andrew
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_443|[18:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thanks Fisher ㋡
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #6666FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_444|[18:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Arawn Spitteler:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|TeleportAgent might only be callable by parcel owner
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4; color: #FF3300;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_445|[18:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Patnad Babii:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|take care everyone, good night !
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7; color: #3300FF;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_446|[18:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|Rex Cronon:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|tc patnad
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New Citizens Incorporated

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Board of Directors:

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-	* ~~Chairman of the Board~~ - Tateru Nino	+	* Owner/Trustee - Tateru Nino
-	* Vice Chairman - Afon Shepherd	+
-	* Vice Chairman - Garn Conover	+
	* Freebies Director - Blu Laszlo		* Freebies Director - Blu Laszlo
	* Ad-node Director - Vacant		* Ad-node Director - Vacant
	* Sales & Service Officer - Vacant		* Sales & Service Officer - Vacant
	* Education Director - Afon Shepherd		* Education Director - Afon Shepherd
-	* Events Director - ~~Gramma Fiddlesticks~~	+	* Events Director - Airmid Morgwain
-	* Chief Financial Officer - ~~Kaine Lowenstark~~	+	* Chief Financial Officer - (temp) Wellington Beam
	* Infodnode Director - Garn Conover		* Infodnode Director - Garn Conover
	* Web Services Officer - Lethe Naumova		* Web Services Officer - Lethe Naumova

Beta Server Office Hours

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Date of Next Meeting

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	This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Oskar Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the '''Second Life Beta''' group for updates.		This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Oskar Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the '''Second Life Beta''' group for updates.

-	'''The next meeting is Thursday, November ~~19th~~, 3PM SLT at {{SLurl\|region=Morris\|x=210\|y=250\|z=35\|title=Morris}} on the preview grid, [[Preview_Grid \| ADITI]].'''	+	'''The next meeting is Thursday, November 26th, 3PM SLT at {{SLurl\|region=Morris\|x=210\|y=250\|z=35\|title=Morris}} on the preview grid, [[Preview_Grid \| ADITI]].'''

	= Agenda =		= Agenda =

Base conoscenza italiano

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User Experience Interest Group/Transcripts/2009-11-19

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	* Reducing UI presence to improve immersion.		* Reducing UI presence to improve immersion.
	* "Beyond SL": in what ways would viewers evolve if they weren't tied to SL?		* "Beyond SL": in what ways would viewers evolve if they weren't tied to SL?
-	* Integration with external services (Twitter, Flickr, online marketplaces, etc.).	+	* Integration with external services (Twitter, Flickr, online marketplaces, [[llPizza]], etc.).
	* Improving usability of online marketplaces, integrating them in the viewer.		* Improving usability of online marketplaces, integrating them in the viewer.
	* Reducing the viewer's footprint / improving performance and usability on lower-end hardware.		* Reducing the viewer's footprint / improving performance and usability on lower-end hardware.
	* Bugs / issues that affect a specific use case or demographic (builders, clothing creators, animators, models, shoppers, etc.).		* Bugs / issues that affect a specific use case or demographic (builders, clothing creators, animators, models, shoppers, etc.).
		+	* Hands-on interface discussion for third-party viewers

	== Transcript ==		== Transcript ==

User Experience Interest Group/Transcripts

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	== 2009 ==		== 2009 ==
		+	* [[User Experience Interest Group/Transcripts/2009-11-19\|November 19]] - Future meeting topics
	* [[User Experience Interest Group/Transcripts/2009-11-12\|November 12]] - Leaked SL 2.0 Email		* [[User Experience Interest Group/Transcripts/2009-11-12\|November 12]] - Leaked SL 2.0 Email
	* [[User Experience Interest Group/Transcripts/2009-11-05\|November 5]] - Open Topic: Random Ramblings		* [[User Experience Interest Group/Transcripts/2009-11-05\|November 5]] - Open Topic: Random Ramblings

Release Notes/Second Life Server/1.32

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-	==1.32.0==	+	==1.32.1==
		+	===1.32.1.138516 (2009-11-17) ===
		+	* Several simulator crash scenarios fixed
		+	* {{jira\|SVC-4984}} - PosJump broken in some server 1.32 regions
		+	* Fixed: 'Teleport home' function treats all homeless users as Mature
		+	* Fixed: Feeding llSetBuoyancy a nonexistent number ''seriously'' breaks physics

		+	==1.32.0==
	===1.32.0.136920 (2009-10-21)===		===1.32.0.136920 (2009-10-21)===
	* {{jira\|SVC-4910}} - Cannot adjust positioning of attached prims		* {{jira\|SVC-4910}} - Cannot adjust positioning of attached prims

User Experience Interest Group/Transcripts/2009-11-19

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Transcript and summary

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== Topic ==

[[User Experience Interest Group]] Discussion for November 19, 2009.

'''Topic: Future Topic Brainstorming.'''

== Summary ==

We brainstormed topics for future UXIG discussions:

* Reducing perceived lag (especially avatar movement).
* Meet on OSGrid to inspire discussion about interop/cross-grid issues.
* What OpenSim creators want in a viewer.
* Reducing UI presence to improve immersion.
* "Beyond SL": in what ways would viewers evolve if they weren't tied to SL?
* Integration with external services (Twitter, Flickr, online marketplaces, etc.).
* Improving usability of online marketplaces, integrating them in the viewer.
* Reducing the viewer's footprint / improving performance and usability on lower-end hardware.
* Bugs / issues that affect a specific use case or demographic (builders, clothing creators, animators, models, shoppers, etc.).

== Transcript ==

{|
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:11]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We're brainstorming topics for future meetings today, so if either of you have any ideas, go ahead :)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:11]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I've got none.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:11]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Well, almost none.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:11]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I have one.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:12]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Go ahead.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:12]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Don't have it yet? I'll go then.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:12]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|back to the conversation on the SLUX mailing lsit about laggy movement.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah. The client doesn't predict movement, it just takes what server gives it and trys to smooth it.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:13]
| colspan="2"|''McCabe Maxsted waves''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm sure there's a way to improve it by chaning the way the viewer works, but I'm not sure what.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Ahoy McCabe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|/changing/
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Prediction routines inside the network layer.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hey Morgaine
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hiya Jacek :-)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hello
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:13]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hi all
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:14]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We're brainstorming topics for future meetings today
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:14]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|If I hold down the W key for T seconds, I should move S*T meters forward.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:14]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|barring obsticals.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:15]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|(S is speed)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:15]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:15]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm looking for a nice way to state it as a bug.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:16]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Well, I think it is a feature...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:17]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Does anyone know what's really happening when your walkign speed slws down?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:17]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hrm. The viewer could assume that you start moving forward immediately, but it would be hard to sync that up with the server. There would probably be a lot of "rubber banding" (bouncing back to where the sim says you really are)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:17]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|The server sends an object update packet for your avatar with a slower velocity.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:17]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|But why is your velocity slower?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Becasue information got lost about your keystrokes?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|How do you mean, when you slow down?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Because you bumped into something?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|no obsticals. a flat floor.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Because an object is execreting a force over you?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Uphills?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|ooga boog
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|a
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lots of avatrs nearby, but not in your way.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:18]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|For the topic brainstorm ... a sort of meta-topic: "Hold a meeting in OSgrid, as a prompt for ideas about interop and about grid cross-over issues."
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:19]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Just give one second of tweening between what we think is the right position and the server's position then. Nobody will notice!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:19]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Sometimes the time dilation on the sim drops when there're too much physics stuff going on
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:19]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|And what OpenSim devs want to see in viewers!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:19]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|In which case all movement slows down on the sim
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:19]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah, in that way the avatar rubber-bands, don't want to see that.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:19]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hi Garn
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:20]
| colspan="2"|''Garn Conover woofs''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:20]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|when rubberbanding happens, can't the viewer keep moving you towards where it knows you WANT to be?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:20]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Anyway. We could make that a topic for a future meeting, if you'd like? "Ways to reduce perceived lag", or something like that
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:20]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|That would be further away to the truth..
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:20]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Preceived performance is important.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:21]
| colspan="2"|''Jacek Antonelli earskritches Garn. Hi there''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:21]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|exactly!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:21]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Firefox developers apprantly think it's more important than real performance..
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:21]
| colspan="2"|''Garn Conover tilts head and thumps foot softly''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Okay. And Morgaine suggested we have a meeting on OSGrid to inspire discussion about interop issues.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Anyway as I was'nt saying for the UXIG we could do stuff the UX lindens would do.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Alright.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|heya Tech
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Go ahead, gen
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Do stuff like discussing mockups for Imprudence.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Techwolf Lupindo:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hi garn
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:22]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Waht is Imprudence?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:23]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Techwolf Lupindo:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Third pary viewers
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:23]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|New features and featurettes.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:23]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Techwolf Lupindo:
| style="white-space:normal;"|party
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:23]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Not just any third party viewer!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:23]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Techwolf Lupindo:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I got Imprudence to work in my overaly for gentoo users.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:23]
| colspan="2"|''Geneko Nemeth looks at Jacek's general direction.''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:23]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|McCabe Maxsted:
| style="white-space:normal;"|http://imprudenceviewer.org/ hax
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:23]
| colspan="2"|''Morgaine Dinova refreshes Tech's overlay''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:23]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Techwolf Lupindo:
| style="white-space:normal;"|But be forwarn, it based on 1.22.11 code, not 1.23.5.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:24]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Although that would probably change in two months...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:24]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Tech: that's a *good* think is some cases. It's made Imprudence very stable in Opensim!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:24]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|thing*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:24]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm intentionally trying to keep UXIG from turning into "Imprudence Favoritism Hour", but we could have discussions about potential UI mockups for viewers in general
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:25]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I don't see why it couldn't be "Imprudence Favoritism Hour" as long as the things discussed can be merged into other viewers as well.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:26]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Maybe once in a while. What are some other topic ideas?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:27]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Maybe more than once in a while.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:27]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Twice in a while?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:27]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Take a look at the past meetings for inspiration, maybe: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User_Experience_Interest_Group/Transcripts
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:27]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Let the meetings have some actual work produced from it... even if just a little.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:27]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|How about an art jam?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:28]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I think that's a really impressive transcripts list.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:28]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We could have discussions like the machinima ones, but for other aspects -- building, clothing design, animation, etc. Invite some representatives and talk about bugs and issues that affect them
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:28]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It's been one year! Woot!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:28]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It has!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:28]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|getting 1.2 silly rss didn't notify me
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:28]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Happy Birthday, UXIG!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:29]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Wahoo!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:29]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Garn: We haven't blogged about it yet
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:30]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|... and in the other direction maybe Imprudence could favour UXIG. Like, post some notices on the front page or something.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:31]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|What are some other topics?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:31]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Anything in the UI bugging you lately? Anything you wish it could do?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:32]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|true fullscreen.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:32]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|get rid of the menu bar and everything.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:32]
| colspan="2"|''Geneko Nemeth has one of those bugs swatted... but there are still lots. Not to mention he's also bugged in real life by blood-sucking bugs.''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|More immersive experience... Yeah.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|do you know how to do fullscreen in Gnome?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Alt+Enter?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|wb Garn
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|still popups :(
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:33]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Aw
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:34]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It's the /apps/metacity/window_keybindings/toggle_fullscreen keybinding.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:34]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|so whats new on here *sniffs*
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:34]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|here?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:35]
| colspan="2"|''Geneko Nemeth has never smelled more catty before.''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:35]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|How about revisiting some of the earlier topics?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:35]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Any in particular that look interesting to revisit?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:36]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Not much. Sigh.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:36]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|on 1.2
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:36]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm thinking about stuff that have been improved like minimap and radar.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:37]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Or things that when revisited could give a bit of different perspective...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:37]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Right
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:37]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|"Beyond SL" would be an interesting topic. Ie. cutting the bond with LL on viewers, and evolving viewers independently.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:38]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Interesting
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:38]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|booo the minimap arrow is yellow lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:39]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i haz a skelly in this guy now lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:39]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Baww... I'm hungry.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:39]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Maybe llGetPizza();?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:39]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hehe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:39]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlPizza
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:40]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|McCabe's fallen asleep. I'm about to as well
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:40]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hmm... so about llPizza()... intergration with outside the metaverse could be a topic?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:40]
| colspan="2"|''Garn Conover facewashes''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:40]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hehe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:40]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|What are you doing Garn Mweh Mweh! :O
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:40]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lol Garn, ew
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:40]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|tryin to wale him up!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:41]
| colspan="2"|''Techwolf Lupindo lol''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:41]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|McCabe Maxsted:
| style="white-space:normal;"|actually gotta run
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:41]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Cya McCabe, tc :-)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:41]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Take care McCabe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:41]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|cya McCabe
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:41]
| colspan="2"|''McCabe Maxsted calls llGetRL()''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:41]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|lol
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:41]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Okay, integration outside SL... that could be stuff like Twitter and Flickr as well
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|And SLX? (Of course, SLX sux.)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|SLuX
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|heh
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|;)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|UXIG was almost going to be called SLUX
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|>.<
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:42]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|let you crop and scale screenshots from inside SL.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:43]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Ew
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:43]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Things like that. And also, like web frontends. Like, who's online...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:43]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Actually, the mailing list *is* called SL-UX
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:43]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|maps... that kind of stuff. Things relating to your avatar when it's not online.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:43]
| colspan="2"|''Garn Conover wonders if the arrow on the minimap is a new colour file line''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:44]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Garn: Nah, for some reason LL decided to color that one arrow, out of all of them.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:44]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|well its the one just added, they used to all be yellow
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:44]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or some of em did
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:44]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Is there a way to make it always 9:00 inthe morning?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:45]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It's called the WindLight editor...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:45]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Hal: In SL? You can use World > Environment Settings > Environment Editor
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:45]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Then slide the time slider
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:46]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|But doesn't it reset when you log off?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:46]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:46]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I don't think there's any way to make it stick permanently
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:46]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|that should be an option.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:47]
| colspan="2"|''Geneko Nemeth wants to expose more of Second Life's rendering options into that place, like glow, shadows, WindLight postproc, and such...''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:47]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Any other topic ideas? How about non-UI things? Other aspects of the total user experience?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:48]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|There is user experience outside the UI?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:48]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yep
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:48]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|AO built into the viewer.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:48]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Built-in AO is a popular idea, yep
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:48]
| colspan="2"|''Garn Conover reads up''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|If it's popular, why hasn't it happened?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It has.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Emerald.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Really? I can't get that one workign.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|because it needs 3rd party before LL does anything these days
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|u guys hear about SL Mentors?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It hasn't happened in mainline SL because LL has other priorities. -_-
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah so what does that have to d-
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:49]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah, bet that's really damaging to the first hour experience.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:50]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|They ought to just send newbies straight to NCI, heh. And start paying NCI's operational costs
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:51]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|hehe well they are gonna start RHN again hopefully this time they keep it
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:51]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I hope so
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:52]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|How about things on the web site? Account information, transaction history, whatever. Anything there that needs some UX love?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:52]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Blog, forums, anything
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:52]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Search
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:52]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|why can't we get transaction history from inside the viewer?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:52]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Good question
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:52]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|At least for the current session.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:52]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Second Life? Not much we can do about that... but maybe about OpenSim grids?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:53]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|How does that work on opensim? Do you use any currency?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:53]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We can talk about things we can't improve ourselves. Build up some recommendations for LL to ignore.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:53]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|No, I'm talking about blogs, forums, searches, online friend lists, that kind of stuffs...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:54]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Build up some recommendations for OpemSim grids to take.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We could even talk about the usability issues with SLX and other marketplaces, and how those could be improved to make the overall experience better
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:55]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Although they will probably cite that inexistant license incompability and ignore us too.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|SLX needs a better wayt ot make a single payment.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|/way to/
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|without teleporting soemwhere.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:55]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|You could just Pay Exchange Street...
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|can't I pay a fake avatar directly?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:55]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Who?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Exchange Street.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:56]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Oh....
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:56]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|And I can pay him directly?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|UUID dcdf9a20-6175-45aa-ba0d-118ba0a975ba.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:56]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yes, you can pay him directly.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:57]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I never knew.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:57]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Although maybe it could get more direct than this?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:57]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Seriously. LL brought SLX and they still behave as if they are indie.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:57]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Are they afraid to integrate the accounts for security reasons?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:57]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Not that we are going to help them of course.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:58]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It's nto a first-hour usability issue.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:58]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|/not/
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:58]
| colspan="2"|''Geneko Nemeth liked OnRez shop better.''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:58]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Garn Conover:
| style="white-space:normal;"|i wonder if SLX can deduct from your sl account directly
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Not yet.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Mmkay, I'm gonna add SLX/marketplace usability as a future topic
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|What else?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Uh, please don't.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|We don't want to help SLX.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Okay, I don't.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Think of it as "what other marketplaces should avoid doing" then
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'd rather see some third-party marketplace go up.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|It's reallt LL's business.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [15:59]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|So it's like talking about CVS?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:00]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Oh man, anachroistic chat.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:00]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Other topic ideas?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:00]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Pizza?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:01]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|is the devil.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:01]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|You already said pizza
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:02]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I've gort a question.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:02]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Go ahead
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:02]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|A bit off topic, but, what kind of hardware are you guys using to get the best user experience?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|I'm running a Linux box with an AMD quad-core Phenom, 4GB memory, and dual Geforce 8600 graphics cards.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:04]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|For instance, my CPU is at 100% right now and nobody is moving at all.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah, SL pretty much sucks up as much of your resources as it can
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|That seems wrong.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|No matter how good your hardware is
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:05]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|wasteful.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:06]
| colspan="2"|''Geneko Nemeth is watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UspmcTUmPZ4#t=1m09 (Skipping the more irrevelant part)''
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Hal Klaxon:
| style="white-space:normal;"|or very frugal.
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:06]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Yeah, it is
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:07]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Mmmkay, I think that's all for this week. One last time -- any other topics?
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Geneko Nemeth:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Pizza!
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Sleep :-)
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#F0F0F0;"
| [16:08]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Morgaine Dinova:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Thanks for meeting Jacek
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:09]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|Take care, all! Thanks for coming
|- style="vertical-align:top;background-color:#FFFFFF;"
| [16:09]
| style="white-space:nowrap;"|Jacek Antonelli:
| style="white-space:normal;"|See you next week
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