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Talk:Mesh/Technical Overview

Drongle McMahon — Sat, 18 May 2013 18:36:10 GMT

Created page with "Concerning the 21844/174752 triangle limit... (1)It may change if the bug is fixed..could add "presently" to indicate possible volatility there. (2)The 174752 limit is when you …"

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Concerning the 21844/174752 triangle limit...
(1)It may change if the bug is fixed..could add "presently" to indicate possible volatility there.
(2)The 174752 limit is when you have only one material. The ninth material can get started, and leave holes, before that if there are already explicit materials with less than 21844 faces. Perhaps add "(or fewer, if there are multiple explicitly assigned materials)"
(3)You could add the symptom of reaching the limit - that there will be holes in the uploaded mesh. That might make it easier for people to recognize.
[[User:Drongle McMahon|Drongle McMahon]] 11:36, 18 May 2013 (PDT)

How to Earn Linden Dollars in Second Life

Bikikims Resident — Sat, 18 May 2013 17:47:12 GMT

Added regulatory warnings for investments, created a new Activity Devices section submerging in itself Sploders and an expanded Sitting Chairs sections.

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		+	{{KBcaution\|The majority of this wiki's content (like SL itself) is Resident-created and while it may be helpful, Linden Labs won't vouch for its accuracy. For official documentation, see the '''[http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/tkb-p/English_KB%40tkb Second Life Knowledge Base]'''.}}

	[[File:lindenrealms.png\|frame\|alt=linden realms\|The [http://secondlife.com/destinations/realms Linden Realms] are a great way to earn linden while having fun exploring some beautiful fantasy sims.]]		[[File:lindenrealms.png\|frame\|alt=linden realms\|The [http://secondlife.com/destinations/realms Linden Realms] are a great way to earn linden while having fun exploring some beautiful fantasy sims.]]
	[[File:goldhunt.png\|frame\|alt=gold hunt\|The [http://www.goldtokens.net/games/gold-hunt Gold Hunt] game allows you to earn linden by searching for coins around the grid. It's a great way to explore the grid and take you to new places.]]		[[File:goldhunt.png\|frame\|alt=gold hunt\|The [http://www.goldtokens.net/games/gold-hunt Gold Hunt] game allows you to earn linden by searching for coins around the grid. It's a great way to explore the grid and take you to new places.]]
-	[[File:fishhunt.png\|frame\|alt=fish hunt\|The [http://www.goldtokens.net/games/fish-hunt Fish Hunt] game ~~allows you to earn linden by fishing at one of hundreds of locations across the grid. It's~~ a great way to meet other players and compete. It's also really popular with players with disabilities as its very easy to play.]]	+	[[File:fishhunt.png\|frame\|alt=fish hunt\|The [http://www.goldtokens.net/games/fish-hunt Fish Hunt] game is a great way to meet other players and compete. It's also really popular with players with disabilities as its very easy to play.]]
	[[File:moneytrees.png\|frame\|alt=money trees\|[http://moneytree.wolfhavenproductions.com Money Trees] are a great way for new players to earn linden by picking linden from trees around the grid. Older players aren't allowed to use Money Trees.]]		[[File:moneytrees.png\|frame\|alt=money trees\|[http://moneytree.wolfhavenproductions.com Money Trees] are a great way for new players to earn linden by picking linden from trees around the grid. Older players aren't allowed to use Money Trees.]]
-	[[File:capexhq.png\|frame\|alt=capital exchange\|The [http://www.slcapex.com/ Capital Exchange] allows you to ~~earn linden by investing~~ and ~~speculating~~ on virtual companies in Second Life.]]	+	[[File:capexhq.png\|frame\|alt=capital exchange\|The [http://www.slcapex.com/ Capital Exchange] allows you to invest and speculate on virtual companies in Second Life.]]
-	[[File:sploders.png\|frame\|alt=sploders\|Sploders are ~~quite popular as~~ a way of earning small amounts of linden when out at a club or party. They are a good way to meet other players and get chatting.]]	+	[[File:sploders.png\|frame\|alt=sploders\|Sploders are a way of earning small amounts of linden when out at a club or party. They are a good way to meet other players and get chatting.]]

	Second Life is full of opportunities to earn Linden Dollars, but it is also important to [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/How_to_Have_Fun_in_Second_Life have fun] while earning. Some players make the mistake of thinking that they have to do something they don't enjoy to make money in Second Life. That's simply is not the case.		Second Life is full of opportunities to earn Linden Dollars, but it is also important to [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/How_to_Have_Fun_in_Second_Life have fun] while earning. Some players make the mistake of thinking that they have to do something they don't enjoy to make money in Second Life. That's simply is not the case.
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	Players who upgrade their account to be a [http://secondlife.com/premium/ Premium Account] are paid a stipend to their account on a weekly basis.		Players who upgrade their account to be a [http://secondlife.com/premium/ Premium Account] are paid a stipend to their account on a weekly basis.

-	= Buy Linden on the ~~Lindex~~ =	+	= Buy Linden on the LindeX =

	You can buy linden whenever you want on the [https://secondlife.com/my/lindex/market.php LindeX] exchange. However, there are [https://secondlife.com/my/lindex/describe-limits.php billing and trading] limits.		You can buy linden whenever you want on the [https://secondlife.com/my/lindex/market.php LindeX] exchange. However, there are [https://secondlife.com/my/lindex/describe-limits.php billing and trading] limits.
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	The [http://www.goldtokens.net/games/fish-hunt Fish Hunt] allows players to earn Linden and win Random Gifts by fishing. There are literally 1,000s of lands with fish buoys available right across the grid, which can be discovered by using the player HUD. You'll also need to get a free beginner fishing rod too.		The [http://www.goldtokens.net/games/fish-hunt Fish Hunt] allows players to earn Linden and win Random Gifts by fishing. There are literally 1,000s of lands with fish buoys available right across the grid, which can be discovered by using the player HUD. You'll also need to get a free beginner fishing rod too.
		+
		+	'''Regulatory warning.''' For an active participation in this activity, it is necessary to make an upfront investment of Linden on a continued basis into virtual items, specifically worms bait. It is also possible to invest into virtual items that can enhance your performance in this activity either temporarily (e.g. premium worms bait, potions, etc.) or permanently (e.g. premium fishing rods; so called "Snubbies" etc.). You may get back less than what you invested.

	'''Farm Frenzy'''		'''Farm Frenzy'''

	[http://www.goldtokens.net/games/farm-frenzy Farm Frenzy] gives land owners the opportunity to earn linden by farming worms for use in the [http://www.goldtokens.net/games/fish-hunt Fish Hunt]. It takes time to develop your Farming Experience, but eventually you'll be able to dominate the farming industry and sell your produce to the masses. Fortunes have been made in the farming industry!		[http://www.goldtokens.net/games/farm-frenzy Farm Frenzy] gives land owners the opportunity to earn linden by farming worms for use in the [http://www.goldtokens.net/games/fish-hunt Fish Hunt]. It takes time to develop your Farming Experience, but eventually you'll be able to dominate the farming industry and sell your produce to the masses. Fortunes have been made in the farming industry!
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		+	'''Regulatory warning.''' It is mandatory to make an upfront investment of Linden into virtual items, specifically worm farms, worm packs and clean water to participate in this activity, and you may get back less than what you invested.

	'''Noob Hunt'''		'''Noob Hunt'''
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	A large proportion of players have some form of [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Guide_to_Jobs_in_Second_Life Second Life Job] as a means to earn linden. This can be a rewarding way to earn linden and if you have the right ideas you can even become an entrepreneur and start your own business.		A large proportion of players have some form of [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Guide_to_Jobs_in_Second_Life Second Life Job] as a means to earn linden. This can be a rewarding way to earn linden and if you have the right ideas you can even become an entrepreneur and start your own business.

-	= ~~Sploders~~ =	+	= Activity Devices =

-	There are a wide range of ~~Sploders such as the ever popular [http://www.secondads.com/chatsploder.php Chatsploder Network] available in various clubs and other areas. These~~ allow you to ~~earn linden by waiting for the 'explosion' which may take quite some time~~. In the ~~mean time you can chat and make new friends.~~	+	There are a wide range of devices that allow you to make money via certain activities. In the order of decreasing interactivity these are:

-	= ~~Investing~~ =	+	== Skill Games ==

-	~~If you have some capital to invest you~~ can ~~simply invest~~ in ~~one of the many successful companies listed on the [http://www.slcapex.com/ Capital Exchange]~~ and ~~then earn dividends over time. You can either earn linden by making a long term investment, or you can speculate on daily market movements~~.	+	There are a wide range of skill game machines where Linden can be earned. While these games may resemble real-world casino game machines, they should all comply with {{LLOlink\|Policy Regarding Wagering in Second Life\|Wagering policy}} and {{LLOlink\|Skill Game Compliance}}.

-	~~However, this~~ is ~~not for the faint~~ of ~~heart~~, as you ~~can lose your~~ investment ~~as well as add~~ to ~~it if~~ you ~~make unwise decisions~~.	+	'''Regulatory warning.''' It is mandatory to make an upfront investment of Linden into many of these game machines to play the skill game, and you may get back less than what you invested. The only exception is machines in 'free-play' mode, where an investment is either not required, or is guaranteed to be paid back to you, however no earnings can be achieved from machines operating in this mode.

-	= ~~Sitting Chairs~~ =	+	== Chatting ==

-	There are a ~~number~~ of ~~sitting chair devices that~~ allow you to earn linden ~~simply~~ by ~~camping on them~~. ~~Unfortunately it~~'~~s likely~~ that you ~~will~~ earn a ~~very small amount considering~~ the ~~time that~~ you ~~will be required~~ to sit on them. ~~Probably~~ the least fun way to earn ~~linden~~ ever invented.	+	There are a wide range of Chat Sploders such as the ever popular [http://www.secondads.com/chatsploder.php Chatsploder Network] available in various clubs and other areas. These allow you to earn linden by waiting for the 'explosion' which may take quite some time. In the mean time you can chat and make new friends.
		+
		+	== Lotteries ==
		+
		+	These are devices where players first make contributions to an aggregated pot. Once the pot exceeds a threshold, a countdown to an 'explosion' begins (such as 3 mins) during which further contributions are typically still accepted. At the 'explosion' the pot is randomly distributed between contributors.
		+
		+	'''Regulatory warning.''' It is mandatory to make an upfront investment of Linden into the aggregated pot to participate in this activity, and generally you may get back less than what you invested. However there are some devices that guarantee a minimum payout that is equal to the minimum contribution, please check device-generated chat messages.
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		+	== Camping ==
		+
		+	These allow you to earn Linden or prizes for camping, e.g. sitting chairs or touch Sploders, which you have to touch to begin a countdown to an 'explosion' at the end of which a landowner's pot of money is randomly distributed between touchers. Some of these devices have you earn Linden, others have you earning other things such as new skins, clothes or other virtual game items. All you have to do touch them or sit on them, then continue camping on them (or reasonably close to some others) for the required amount of time to earn your prize. While some opine it is the least fun way to earn Linden ever invented due to lack of interaction with these devices during the camping time, others argue that it is just as much fun as any other activity, because while camping you are still free to chat and make new friends. A further advantage is that it is a relatively simpler way that does not require much time or physical input, and is therefore quite suitable for people with disabilities.
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		+	== Area Camping ==
		+
		+	These are similar to camping devices above, except that you simply need to be present on the land within a certain proximity of the device for the required amount of time to earn your prize, which is typically awarded to a resident chosen at random. These include Random Money Givers, and sometimes require that you become a member of the group owning the land, or add the land to the list of your SL Picks in order to be considered for an award.

	= Completing Surveys, Surfing Sites & Web Offers =		= Completing Surveys, Surfing Sites & Web Offers =

	It is possible to earn linden by completing surveys, surfing websites or filling web offers. Unfortunately this can be very haphazard and you may not receive payment if you don't fit the demographic that the company is looking for.		It is possible to earn linden by completing surveys, surfing websites or filling web offers. Unfortunately this can be very haphazard and you may not receive payment if you don't fit the demographic that the company is looking for.
		+
		+	= Investing =
		+
		+	If you have some capital to invest you can simply invest in one of the companies listed on the [http://www.slcapex.com/ Capital Exchange] and then hope to earn dividends over time. You can either try to earn Linden by making a long term investment, or you can speculate on daily market movements.
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		+	'''Regulatory warning.''' The value of investments and the income from them can fall as well as rise, and you may get back less than what you invested.

	= External Articles & Sites=		= External Articles & Sites=
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	== Sites ==		== Sites ==

-	* [http://www.goldtokens.net Goldtokens] - Earn linden playing fun games
	* [http://bletaverse.com/ Bletaverse] - Earn linden while exploring SL without having to make an investment.		* [http://bletaverse.com/ Bletaverse] - Earn linden while exploring SL without having to make an investment.
-	* [http://www.e2l-net.com/ Earn2life ] - Earn linden on earning programs	+	* [http://www.goldtokens.net Goldtokens] - Earn linden playing fun games (some games require an upfront investment).
		+	* [http://www.e2l-net.com/ Earn2life] - Earn linden on earning programs
	* [http://wolfhavenproductions.com Wolfhaven Productions] - The creators of money trees		* [http://wolfhavenproductions.com Wolfhaven Productions] - The creators of money trees

User:Bikikims Resident

Bikikims Resident — Sat, 18 May 2013 17:20:10 GMT

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Mesh/Technical Overview

Gaia Clary — Sat, 18 May 2013 17:16:02 GMT

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	\|colspan="2"\|Fact Sheet		\|colspan="2"\|Fact Sheet
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-	~~\|width=150\|Vertices & Faces~~
-	~~\|65536 vertices per LOD for each Prim.~~
-	~~Note: the limitting values is the vertex count. The face count could be much bigger!~~
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		+	\|width=150\|Vertices & Triangles
		+	\|65536 vertices per texture Face
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		+	21844 triangles per Texture Face.
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		+	'''Note: there is a caveat here:'''
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		+	Whenever the triangle count of a Texture Face exceeds the limit of 21844 triangles, then the SL Importer automatically creates a new texture face, thus it automatically fixes your mesh when the triangle count per face gets too high. Actually the Importer creates as many texture faces in chunks of of up to 21844 triangles as needed for your model.
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		+	Thus when your triangle count per Texture face (in Blender triangle count per material) exceeds the limits, you will have more Texture faces in your Second Life Object than you specified in your 3D tool. But due to the limit of 8 allowed Texture Faces per Object (see above) your mesh can not have more than 8*21844 = 174752 triangles. The SL Importer will cap the exceeding amount of triangles and force this upper triangle limit on your mesh.
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Downloads

Henri Beauchamp — Sat, 18 May 2013 13:24:56 GMT

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	''' Version and timestamp '''		''' Version and timestamp '''

-	* Legacy stable version (v2.6 renderer): 1.26.4.68 Date: 11 May 2013	+	* Legacy stable version (v2.6 renderer): 1.26.4.69 Date: 18 May 2013
-	* Current stable version (v3.5 renderer): 1.26.8.4 Date: 11 May 2013	+	* Current stable version (v3.5 renderer): 1.26.8.5 Date: 18 May 2013
-	* Experimental version (mesh deformer and materials support): 1.26.9.4 Date: 11 May 2013	+	* Experimental version (mesh deformer and materials support): 1.26.9.5 Date: 18 May 2013
	* Status: Active.		* Status: Active.

User:Bikikims Resident

Bikikims Resident — Sat, 18 May 2013 13:15:45 GMT

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A Second Life resident living First Life in England, UK.

LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Relay/Comparison

Dahlia Orfan — Sat, 18 May 2013 10:28:23 GMT

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Simulator User Group/Transcripts/2013.05.14

Andrew Linden — Fri, 17 May 2013 23:35:18 GMT

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{|
| [[Simulator_User_Group/Transcripts/2013.05.07|Prev 2013.05.07]]
| [[Simulator_User_Group/Transcripts/2013.05.21|Next 2013.05.21]]
|}

== List of Speakers ==
{|
|Adamburp Adamczyk
|Duckie Dickins
|Fadeout Razorfen
|-
|Jonathan Yap
|Kelly Linden
|Kitto Flora
|-
|Levio Serenity
|Lexbot Sinister
|Lucia Nightfire
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|Martinrj Fayray
|Nalates Urriah
|Qie Niangao
|-
|Rex Cronon
|Simon Linden
|Sovereign Engineer
|-
|Tankmaster Finesmith
|Whirly Fizzle
|}

== Transcript ==
[12:03] Simon Linden<nowiki>: Let's see, I can get things rolling with news ... we updated the main channel this morning with code that was on the RC channels</nowiki>

[12:03] Lexbot Sinister<nowiki>: love mesh... Whirly still got the pants on her head for me...</nowiki>

[12:03] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: hello yuzuru</nowiki>

[12:03] Simon Linden<nowiki>: The forums are here for all the read-me info and such : </nowiki>http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/Deploys-for-the-week-of-2013-05-13/td-p/2006485

[12:04] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: Yay! I hope Im wearing the alpha....... er yes..phew</nowiki>

[12:04] Simon Linden<nowiki>: The experience permissions project mentioned there isn't still open for everyone, but at least now the code's getting out there</nowiki>

[12:04] Simon Linden<nowiki>: err, make that "anyone"</nowiki>

[12:05] Simon Linden<nowiki>: There will be new server code going into the RC channels tomorrow, barring any last-minute issues. We're down to the wire testing this one but so far it all looks good</nowiki>

[12:06] Simon Linden<nowiki>: The interesting new stuff in that release is a set of LSL functions to process JSON data</nowiki>

[12:06] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: Nice!</nowiki>

[12:06] Simon Linden<nowiki>: That should make it a bit easier to talk to some external data sources and web services to hopefully do something new and interesting</nowiki>

[12:07] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: is the "advanced creator tools notification" group started by charlar linden still active? i haven't heard a peep in there about the new upcoming exp. changes.</nowiki>

[12:07] Simon Linden<nowiki>: I don't know the answer to that, Tiger</nowiki>

[12:07] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: I'm still in that group but chat has never been enabled</nowiki>

[12:08] Simon Linden<nowiki>: If you're in the group and haven't heard anything, it's somewhere between dormant and dead</nowiki>

[12:08] Adamburp Adamczyk<nowiki>: charlar left ll i think?</nowiki>

[12:08] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: that was the group started for those of us interested in testing/using the new exp. functions. i was lead to believe we would get early access to the new functions.</nowiki>

[12:09] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: What are prospects of getting some more info about experience permissions? There's all kinds of speculation about it (as in, whether or not it will work on Mainland), so it would be very helpful to know a bit more when that's possible.</nowiki>

[12:09] Nalates Urriah<nowiki>: Well, the leader there is no longer with us...</nowiki>

[12:09] Simon Linden<nowiki>: I wasn't involved with that project or program, but the product guys are sorting out what happens next</nowiki>

[12:09] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: some linden should use some database kung fu and take over that group since it's already established</nowiki>

[12:10] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: Its going to need viewer changes too right?</nowiki>

[12:10] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: There is no wiki page about experience tools, btw. : )</nowiki>

[12:10] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: (At least I couldn't find one)</nowiki>

[12:10] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: just was wondering if there was a new group i should be instead of that one that that the project is moving forward again : )</nowiki>

[12:10] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: *now that</nowiki>

[12:11] Simon Linden<nowiki>: Whirly -- I'm not sure about that. I don't think it needs anything new to use that functionality, as that's now in Linden Realms</nowiki>

[12:11] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: ahh right</nowiki>

[12:12] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: It'll probably be like alot of major changes that were handled by third parties. We'll get it, find a ton of flaws or lackings, but it'll be too late to change anything, lol.</nowiki>

[12:12] Simon Linden<nowiki>: I'm not sure about owning and implementing it, however ... and those are the fuzzy details still being sorted out</nowiki>

[12:13] Simon Linden<nowiki>: That's it for server news, so I guess the floor is open for questions or topics</nowiki>

[12:14] Lexbot Sinister<nowiki>: Has the work on new particles halted for the time being?</nowiki>

[12:15] Simon Linden<nowiki>: yes, in that we're not adding more new particles than what was recently added. The next step is getting that viewer code out the door, and that has been making small steps in the right direction</nowiki>

[12:15] Simon Linden<nowiki>: There was a blog about a new viewer release process, which is the fastest route for this to be released</nowiki>

[12:17] Simon Linden<nowiki>: I can't promise any dates but I personally would like to make a bug-fix version of the viewer available, which has some changes we put in earlier this year but hasn't been released as other things were in line</nowiki>

[12:17] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: r there going to be any ducks on the menu;)</nowiki>

[12:17] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: I made an update to </nowiki>https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SEC-1247<nowiki> & also I have a repro for </nowiki>https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SEC-1264<nowiki> if you want the details.</nowiki>

[12:17] Simon Linden<nowiki>: Once we've got that setup, and it looks stable, we can get the other stuff moving too</nowiki>

[12:18] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: what is the best avenue to request new features? ask while here? file a jira?</nowiki>

[12:18] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: Will the new Sunshine code be going into beta viewer or will that have its own RC viewer under the new release process?</nowiki>

[12:18] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: any word wet on when the new region handshake code will be available for sending interest list stuff?</nowiki>

[12:18] Simon Linden<nowiki>: yes and yes, Tiger</nowiki>

[12:19] Simon Linden<nowiki>: .. and I assume you mean a server feature, not something viewer-only. The developers who come here are focused mostly on the server side of things. I know some features need changes in both places too</nowiki>

[12:20] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: i suggested a new function here a year ago. but i'll try it again : ) i would like a feature thats like the opposite of llRezObject() that would let a script grab an item/copy of it that's rezzed out and add it into the contents of the item where the script is running</nowiki>

[12:20] Simon Linden<nowiki>: but discussing here is a good idea to see what others think about it and possibly refining the idea, or figuring out alternatives</nowiki>

[12:20] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: Writing a jira is needed at some point</nowiki>

[12:21] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: what use case do you ahve for that, tiger?</nowiki>

[12:21] Nalates Urriah<nowiki>: In world vacuum cleaner...</nowiki>

[12:21] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: We already have the jira to return objects</nowiki>

[12:22] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: (Whirly, that was your cue)</nowiki>

[12:22] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: things like builders buddy could slurp up a build and add it into itself automatically. i have automated much of our system to make a project, box it, and put it into a vendor. i could fully automated the entire process if the scripts could pack stuff up</nowiki>

[12:22] Simon Linden<nowiki>: so it takes an in-world item into another object?</nowiki>

[12:22] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: yep, zactly</nowiki>

[12:23] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: self-replication made even easier, heh</nowiki>

[12:23] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: Would you want a way to specify which prim it would go into in an object?</nowiki>

[12:23] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: That would seem to reduce a 2-step operation to one. Not much gain.</nowiki>

[12:23] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: id asume based on the UUID of the root prim? how would you deal with non linked objects?</nowiki>

[12:23] Simon Linden<nowiki>: hmmm, interesting ... thinking from the other side of it, I've always wanted a few magic buttons to pack up my parcel so I could switch builds easily.</nowiki>

[12:23] Lexbot Sinister<nowiki>: I'm scratching my head, looking for alternative uses for that...</nowiki>

[12:23] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: but it can be automated. the only way stuff can go in contents now is manually by a person doing it</nowiki>

[12:24] Lexbot Sinister<nowiki>: well, a parcel packer wouldn't be bad...</nowiki>

[12:24] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: people often have 1000s of breedable nests/eggs/etc. tools can be made to pack up, sort, organize etc</nowiki>

[12:24] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: You could put nocopy poseballs back into the dancemachine</nowiki>

[12:25] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: good way for no copy items to get lost it sounds like too</nowiki>

[12:25] Lexbot Sinister<nowiki>: "saving" content really shouldn't take hours, like it does in some cases now.</nowiki>

[12:25] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: (Which contain animations) - of course nobody would seriously use that if it's not 100% secure</nowiki>

[12:25] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: well no copy items are always at a risk to be lost via the assert server anyways. this is just automating what can already be done manually</nowiki>

[12:26] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: but I could see parcel packers as a good way for people to move their builds in events like where a landlord goes missing..doesn't pay tier and land gets taken back by the lab.</nowiki>

[12:27] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: yes in general would really help people keep things boxed up and not have so many items in top level inventory, which has to be a good thing</nowiki>

[12:27] Simon Linden<nowiki>: It would nice if a club owner could switch builds and decorations easily, for example</nowiki>

[12:27] Lexbot Sinister<nowiki>: well, more or less ANY build... not too long ago i spent a couple of hours putting scripts in city prims...</nowiki>

[12:28] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: on the other hand it would be nice if group chat works every time you tried to use it. :)</nowiki>

[12:28] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: guys, any thouts on </nowiki>https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-2576<nowiki> ? thats crucial bug to me (sorry multitasking right now)</nowiki>

[12:28] Lexbot Sinister<nowiki> laughs</nowiki>

[12:28] Simon Linden<nowiki> takes a note on that</nowiki>

[12:28] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: sadly u can't see the contents of a object that inside your dir without rezzing it:(</nowiki>

[12:28] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: </nowiki>https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-2576<nowiki> = Permission Violation</nowiki>

[12:29] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: cant view other peeps jiras</nowiki>

[12:29] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: boo</nowiki>

[12:29] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: "llCastRay fails with status code 0 "</nowiki>

[12:29] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: llCastRay fails with status code 0</nowiki>

[12:29] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: i have another server-side request as well : )</nowiki>

[12:29] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Please Remember - LL seriously broke Jira some months back</nowiki>

[12:29] Simon Linden<nowiki>: ???? - did you see Maestro's last question on that? I specific case where you know it's really failing would help a lot</nowiki>

[12:29] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: oh i didn't yet</nowiki>

[12:30] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: it was "fixed" kito:)</nowiki>

[12:30] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Its still broken here Rex.</nowiki>

[12:30] Simon Linden<nowiki>: s/I/A</nowiki>

[12:30] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: and yep there was something on it's path</nowiki>

[12:30] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: it randomly fails to detect stuff</nowiki>

[12:30] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: BUG-1259 is "llCastRay randomly fails to detect prims/land" which is why whirly had asked if ti was related</nowiki>

[12:31] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: I think the lab got tired of invoking godwin's law in angry jira comments....so NO SOUP FOR YOU!</nowiki>

[12:31] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: it fails on every sim</nowiki>

[12:31] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Phoenix-Firestorm: Is there a reliable repro for that bug?</nowiki>

[12:31] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: timer() is great an all, but what would really be awesome is if there was an llTImedEvent(integer code, float delay) that would fire an event and there was a new event handler in scripts like event(integer code) that was called after delay seconds. basically let us do event driven programming above just having a single timer and trying to multiplex its behavior</nowiki>

[12:32] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: yes, the labs was tiered of rants in th jira, it made the jira unusable for those reports trying to get the relivent info for the issue</nowiki>

[12:32] Simon Linden<nowiki>: yeah, I can see where that would be useful</nowiki>

[12:33] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: sadlly the lindens seem to be so busy that they can't even fix exiting functions like llXorBase64StringsCorrect, so i don't know how could they get the time to add new ones:(</nowiki>

[12:33] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: immensely useful. i rolled my own system to multiplex a single timer and use it in pretty much every script i ever write now</nowiki>

[12:34] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: What would you do with a fixed llXorBase64StringsCorrect ?</nowiki>

[12:34] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: I multiplex timer all the time :) SOP.</nowiki>

[12:34] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: xor strings</nowiki>

[12:35] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: yea, but seems like would be pretty straight forward to add to the scripting system</nowiki>

[12:35] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: for better communication security between scripted objects and outside servers</nowiki>

[12:36] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Multile timer() would be more useful. At present the number of scripts I have to put in an object tends to be set by the number of un-multiplexable timers that I need.</nowiki>

[12:36] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: For a new timer function I suggest it have 2 parameters: time (which can either be a fixed time in the future or a repeating time) and the address of the routine to be called.</nowiki>

[12:37] Simon Linden<nowiki>: I don't think we use callback functions anywhere in LSL now</nowiki>

[12:37] Simon Linden<nowiki>: It's all events, right?</nowiki>

[12:37] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: Always have used XTEA for secured object to server comms.</nowiki>

[12:37] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: a function reference? i figured that was above and beyond anything they would consider implementing. i would be happy with a single integer passed along</nowiki>

[12:37] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: </nowiki>https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/XTEA_Strong_Encryption_Implementation

[12:38] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: nope, LSL does not support function pointers or callback functions or custom handlers.</nowiki>

[12:38] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: llSetMultipleTimerEvent(integer number, float time);</nowiki>

[12:38] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: oh ! i think i figured it out ! raycast fails under specific rotations</nowiki>

[12:38] Simon Linden<nowiki>: oh good - if you can add that info the jira, that would be perfect</nowiki>

[12:40] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: idc what you call it, but i think for simplicity and backwards compat. you dont tie it in with the existing timer() events and functions. make a new function and new event handler</nowiki>

[12:40] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: multitimer(integer number){ ....}</nowiki>

[12:42] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: But - these things can be scripted around. Unlike more serios problems......</nowiki>

[12:42] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: aaaaand while you're in there. if u could up mono script limits to 128K, that would be swell : D</nowiki>

[12:42] Simon Linden<nowiki>: uh huh</nowiki>

[12:42] Nalates Urriah<nowiki>: Who is working on the building in the JSON stuff?</nowiki>

[12:42] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: and add C# just cus...</nowiki>

[12:42] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: So, Simon - is anyone going to look at the ongoing border crossing problems? 10 years - and its still not fixed.</nowiki>

[12:42] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: Nal: hrm?</nowiki>

[12:43] Nalates Urriah<nowiki>: I see that some of the wiki stuff on JSON is blank pages. I was curious who was leading that project and could we entice them to talk to use here?</nowiki>

[12:43] Object<nowiki>: Hello, Avatar!</nowiki>

[12:44] Simon Linden<nowiki>: Kitto -- I think "less pain" is a more reasonable goal than "fixed" for border crossings. I know they've gotten better and worse over the years .. it's not a simple problem</nowiki>

[12:44] Nalates Urriah<nowiki>: us here?</nowiki>

[12:44] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: I am leading the project. The best wiki page right now is </nowiki>http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Json_usage_in_LSL

[12:44] Duckie Dickins<nowiki>: I haven't had very much problems flying through the blake sea recently....and I mean like 75 sim crossing without a crash....that's pretty good.</nowiki>

[12:44] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: Is there a wiki page for the experience tools?</nowiki>

[12:45] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Simon - Some goal would be good. But is anyone kicking the ball?</nowiki>

[12:45] Nalates Urriah<nowiki>: Kellz, nIce. When I have specific questions this will then be the place to ask them, yes?</nowiki>

[12:45] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Seas are likely easy - not so much scenery to download and crash your crossings.</nowiki>

[12:46] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: Nal: Sure.</nowiki>

[12:46] Nalates Urriah<nowiki>: Thx</nowiki>

[12:46] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: i'm curious what prompted the sudden JSON support. we've been working around a lack of that for years.</nowiki>

[12:46] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: Levio: I'm keen on improving the ability to interface LSL with the larger web. The previous maintenance version expanded the content-type support of http-in and http-out which ties in with this.</nowiki>

[12:47] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: raycast always fails under rotation <0.20970, 0.20559, -0.68258, 0.66921></nowiki>

[12:48] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: I have noticed less severe net timing spiking since last week.</nowiki>

[12:48] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: which is good, lol</nowiki>

[12:49] Simon Linden<nowiki>: That's good to hear, Lucy. Was that on a main-channel server?</nowiki>

[12:49] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: seems net timing is being maintained at a higher avg ms than before which is probably why</nowiki>

[12:49] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: its everywhere from what I see</nowiki>

[12:50] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: i recently started messing around with MOAP stuff, but i'm finding the prims MOAP textures don't rezz until i click on them, which kind of makes them useless for my intended purpose. is this a limitation in MOAP? or just a bug with things not rezzing in general that we seem to have since the interest list changes went out?</nowiki>

[12:51] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: That's vwr-17719</nowiki>

[12:51] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: levio, are you using FS?</nowiki>

[12:52] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: yes FS 4.4.0.33720</nowiki>

[12:52] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: </nowiki>http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-17719

[12:52] Simon Linden<nowiki>: I haven't worked with MOAP recently so can't say</nowiki>

[12:52] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: It's an old bug - or maybe deliberately missing feature'</nowiki>

[12:53] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: i believe thats a FS spcific feature to not display a MOAP until you click on it, privacy issue</nowiki>

[12:53] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: Oh, that old bug... but I don't think that's what Tiger was describing.</nowiki>

[12:53] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: well MOAP is pretty useless if users just see a blank prim when they first TP in. they won't even know its supposed to be a MOAP</nowiki>

[12:53] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: Is there some autoplay setting that has to be enabled on those moap textures?</nowiki>

[12:53] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: we went that rout to aid in preventing malicious use of MOAP</nowiki>

[12:53] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: It depends on a viewers settings if they have media autoplay enabled</nowiki>

[12:54] Adamburp Adamczyk<nowiki>: do many people still have it set to autoplay?</nowiki>

[12:54] Adamburp Adamczyk<nowiki>: a lot of tpv have that set off by default</nowiki>

[12:54] Simon Linden<nowiki>: I would hope not :P</nowiki>

[12:54] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: V3 autoplays by default still I think? FS does not. You have to enable it</nowiki>

[12:54] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: my tool i just wanted to be able to display a texture that's autogenerated from a URL off-world. it doesnt even have to be clickable/interactive</nowiki>

[12:55] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: the viewer dosnt really ahve any way of know what the content of the media is</nowiki>

[12:55] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: Since the Redzone fiasco, youll find a lot of people keep media off by default</nowiki>

[12:55] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: yeah, v3 plays by default its annoying</nowiki>

[12:55] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: indeed, but there are other worries with media too, esp if near peopel with illegal tpvs...</nowiki>

[12:55] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: its fine if it requires media to be active and all that jazz. but even activating auto-play and all that. i still have blank prims until i click it</nowiki>

[12:55] Fadeout Razorfen<nowiki>: if anybody needs stable raycast fail repro, i've put it in the center enar the timer</nowiki>

[12:56] Adamburp Adamczyk<nowiki>: yeah</nowiki>

[12:56] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: Hmm thats normal for MOAP you have to click it</nowiki>

[12:56] Adamburp Adamczyk<nowiki>: a least in some tpv you have the filter option too</nowiki>

[12:56] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: i'm just trying to understand if thats a bug or a limitation of MOAP</nowiki>

[12:57] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: I think normal?</nowiki>

[12:57] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: Tiger, it's not necessarily a limitation. you have to click it to *interact* with it, but a script-generated texture will load without clicking.</nowiki>

[12:57] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: if that is indeed a limitation, i think that's your answer as to why SL isn't integrated into the outside web world :)</nowiki>

[12:58] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Hum thats set 'anyone takea copy' but pie Take A Copy is greyed out.</nowiki>

[12:58] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: Well the setting first_click_interact doesn't work, so it's either misdocumented or a bug</nowiki>

[12:58] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: Me thinks</nowiki>

[12:58] Martinrj Fayray<nowiki>: From what I've seen in the viewer it's never been implemented viewer-side</nowiki>

[12:59] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: problem is somebody can use such a texture to find the ip of who is looking at it</nowiki>

[12:59] Levio Serenity<nowiki>: so then my next server request is a means to somehow give LSL the url to an image and have it uploaded/displayed as a temp image for free</nowiki>

[13:00] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: Rex, yeah, that's indeed the problem, and that's why MOAP is pretty much useless in practice.</nowiki>

[13:00] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: Thats why people keep media off :P</nowiki>

[13:00] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: its not the text, its the interaction, you can do the same, just having voice enabled too</nowiki>

[13:00] Object<nowiki>: Hello, Avatar!</nowiki>

[13:00] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: *texture</nowiki>

[13:00] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: if the texture were to come through ll servers it wouldn't be a problem:)</nowiki>

[13:01] Tankmaster Finesmith<nowiki>: that would be a lot of bandwith going through LL processing all those videos of cats if they did it that way</nowiki>

[13:01] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: the sim could get texture end everybody would get texture from sim.therefore your ip would be safe:)</nowiki>

[13:01] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: lol</nowiki>

[13:01] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: your ip is never safe, lol</nowiki>

[13:01] Lucia Nightfire<nowiki>: never</nowiki>

[13:01] Simon Linden<nowiki>: yeah, that's an interesting idea but I can imagine the abuse potential is kinda high</nowiki>

[13:02] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: (sorry, gotta run, thanks Lindens and have fun all.)</nowiki>

[13:02] Sovereign Engineer<nowiki>: Hey Baker how's the name bug fixing/group ban things coming? :P</nowiki>

[13:02] Simon Linden<nowiki>: I have to go too</nowiki>

[13:02] Whirly Fizzle<nowiki>: Thanks Lindens</nowiki>

[13:02] Rex Cronon<nowiki>: lol. u think that meshes r nice to your bandwidth:)</nowiki>

[13:02] Simon Linden<nowiki>: Thanks everyone for coming today and the good chat and ideas</nowiki>

[13:02] Nalates Urriah<nowiki>: Thx Lindens</nowiki>



 
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Linden Lab Official:Linden Dollar (L$) Authorized Reseller Program

Jeremy Linden — Fri, 17 May 2013 20:17:34 GMT

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-	# SEC-1264 (ANSI Soderstrom can't make it to the meeting, but she is worried that she can crash a mainland continent within an second with her ducks - see SEC-1264) ([[User:MartinRJ Fayray\|MartinRJ Fayray]])	+	# SEC-1264 <strike>(ANSI Soderstrom can't make it to the meeting, but she is worried that she can crash a mainland continent within an second with her ducks - see SEC-1264) ([[User:MartinRJ Fayray\|MartinRJ Fayray]])</strike> ^^^ Resolved [[User:ANSI Soderstrom\|ANSI Soderstrom]] 23:44, 16 May 2013 (PDT)

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	This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Maestro Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the '''Second Life Beta''' group for updates.		This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Maestro Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the '''Second Life Beta''' group for updates.

-	'''The next meeting is Thursday, May 16 2013, 3PM PDT at {{SLurl\|region=Morris\|x=210\|y=250\|z=35\|title=Morris}} on the preview grid, [[Preview_Grid \| ADITI]].'''	+	'''The next meeting is Thursday, May 23 2013, 3PM PDT at {{SLurl\|region=Morris\|x=210\|y=250\|z=35\|title=Morris}} on the preview grid, [[Preview_Grid \| ADITI]].'''

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[2013/05/16 15:00] Rex Cronon: hello everybody
[2013/05/16 15:00] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Maestro.
[2013/05/16 15:00] Destiny Wescott: Does the beta grid have support groups or sim?
[2013/05/16 15:01] Baker Linden: oh no! Not my wings!
[2013/05/16 15:01] arton Rotaru: lol Baker
[2013/05/16 15:02] Duckie Dickins: Think he was offering drum sticks instead
[2013/05/16 15:02] Inara Breen: Whirly is clearly trying to woo Baker into working on group bans....
[2013/05/16 15:02] Whirly Fizzle: Damn, Im busted
[2013/05/16 15:02] Maestro Linden: Hi Destiny, yes. The RC sandbox regions on Agni require you to be in the 'Server Beta User group': https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta/BlueSteel has SLURLs
[2013/05/16 15:02] Duckie Dickins: Order some Pizza....Have it delivered to the Lab. I'm sure if it's addressed to Baker Linden it might get to him. :)
[2013/05/16 15:03] Maestro Linden: and there are also sandbox regions for LeTigre and Magnum
[2013/05/16 15:03] Destiny Wescott: thanks Maestro
[2013/05/16 15:03] Baker Linden: I've made some good progress in understanding our agent system this week! I may have one bug fixed (stripping leading whitespace from usernames)!
[2013/05/16 15:03] Lucia Nightfire: Maestro you need more available prims on this parcel, force owner one of the others in the region to you, heh
[2013/05/16 15:03] Maestro Linden: yeah I guess ~500 total is a little tight
[2013/05/16 15:03] Motor Loon: ...espicially with only 9 free ¬∞Õú¬∞
[2013/05/16 15:04] Lucia Nightfire: with the gym equipment and seats its about full
[2013/05/16 15:04] Maestro Linden: I wonder if there's any garbage up in the sky..
[2013/05/16 15:04] arton Rotaru: 8 :p
[2013/05/16 15:04] Duckie Dickins: when isn't there?
[2013/05/16 15:04] Maestro Linden: :)
[2013/05/16 15:04] Maestro Linden: Anyway, let's get started
[2013/05/16 15:04] Maestro Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Agenda
[2013/05/16 15:04] Motor Loon: 323 prims at ground level
[2013/05/16 15:05] Maestro Linden: I guess I can address ANSI's question first
[2013/05/16 15:05] Maestro Linden: "SEC-1264 (ANSI Soderstrom can't make it to the meeting, but she is worried that she can crash a mainland continent within an second with her ducks - see SEC-1264) (MartinRJ Fayray)"
[2013/05/16 15:05] Maestro Linden: yep, it's a known crash mode, but there is a potential fix for it in the pipeline
[2013/05/16 15:05] Motor Loon: continent ¬∞Õú¬∞ pretty powerful ducks
[2013/05/16 15:05] Rex Cronon: we have ducks on the menu;)
[2013/05/16 15:06] Duckie Dickins: Hey! I resent that!
[2013/05/16 15:06] Motor Loon: lols
[2013/05/16 15:06] Lucia Nightfire: its nto the ducks though, its WnderWithin or rather simply them goign into another region
[2013/05/16 15:06] Tiberious Neruda: an entire CONTINENT?
[2013/05/16 15:06] arton Rotaru: thats cool actually
[2013/05/16 15:06] Maestro Linden: maybe a tiny one
[2013/05/16 15:07] Rex Cronon: those ducks have problem. they don't work on water:)
[2013/05/16 15:07] Lucia Nightfire: thats pathfinding in general, heh
[2013/05/16 15:07] Nal (nalates.urriah): Water phobic ducks?
[2013/05/16 15:07] Maestro Linden: anyway, I don't feel like describing how to make the crash happens :)
[2013/05/16 15:07] arton Rotaru: :p
[2013/05/16 15:08] Rex Cronon: so, if your sim borders r under water u r ok from duck problmes:)
[2013/05/16 15:08] Tiberious Neruda: don't exactly blame you...
[2013/05/16 15:08] Motor Loon: well, if I can't get my griefing weapons upgraded, I'll just go make some coffee instead...
[2013/05/16 15:08] Tiberious Neruda: last thing y'all need is for THAT to get out...
[2013/05/16 15:08] Maestro Linden: Next, let's get to updates
[2013/05/16 15:09] Maestro Linden: The main channel got the experience tools project, which is still under wraps
[2013/05/16 15:09] Maestro Linden: nothing visible should have changed
[2013/05/16 15:09] Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): sekrit
[2013/05/16 15:09] Maestro Linden: Yeah, until that team announces it
[2013/05/16 15:10] Maestro Linden: But we do have announcements for the changes in RC
[2013/05/16 15:10] Maestro Linden: there's a new server maintenance project, with some bugfixes and features
[2013/05/16 15:10] Maestro Linden: it went to all 3 channels yesterday
[2013/05/16 15:10] Tiberious Neruda: what bugfixes?
[2013/05/16 15:10] Maestro Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/13#13.05.14.275813
[2013/05/16 15:11] Lucia Nightfire: I know SEC-1204 isn't fixed on that version yet, lol
[2013/05/16 15:11] Maestro Linden: There's a fix for behavior around sitting on the ground with the recent animation override functions
[2013/05/16 15:11] Maestro Linden: and a fix for SVC-8227
[2013/05/16 15:11] Maestro Linden: which is 'ApplyImpulse now works only in the root prim'
[2013/05/16 15:12] Maestro Linden: and some crash mode fixes
[2013/05/16 15:12] Rex Cronon: why only root prim?
[2013/05/16 15:12] Maestro Linden: that was the bug, Rex
[2013/05/16 15:13] Maestro Linden: that it failed when called in child prims
[2013/05/16 15:13] Maestro Linden: but now it should work
[2013/05/16 15:13] Rex Cronon: oh. i t failed
[2013/05/16 15:13] Nal (nalates.urriah): I am already hearing there are some problems with the JSON features. Will the quotes things hold it back?
[2013/05/16 15:13] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Is SVC-8227 fixed?
[2013/05/16 15:13] Maestro Linden: It should be fixed in RC, Yuzuru
[2013/05/16 15:13] Lucia Nightfire: json is a substringindex nightmare imo, heh
[2013/05/16 15:13] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): All RC, Thank you. I will try it again.
[2013/05/16 15:13] Maestro Linden: if you see it broken still, please let us know
[2013/05/16 15:14] Maestro Linden: yes, all 3 RC channels are on the same version
[2013/05/16 15:14] tehKellz (kelly.linden): yeah the json bugs will probably hold it back
[2013/05/16 15:14] [aR] Crawler Wheel (Silver Rim) v0.9.3: Hello, Avatar!
[2013/05/16 15:14] Maestro Linden: Nal: yes, there are some issues with this week's Json functions..
[2013/05/16 15:14] Maestro Linden: the keys in key-value pairs are not quoted, but should be
[2013/05/16 15:15] Nal (nalates.urriah): That will make some happy to know its getting attention.
[2013/05/16 15:15] Maestro Linden: and right now you'll run into problems when you add stirngs which contain escaped quotes
[2013/05/16 15:15] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): I head the control permission was lost when avatar crossing SIM..
[2013/05/16 15:15] Maestro Linden: Yes, that's a second new bug, yuzuru
[2013/05/16 15:15] Lucia Nightfire: its two issues with controls perms
[2013/05/16 15:16] Lucia Nightfire: which are listed in BUG-2601
[2013/05/16 15:16] Motor Loon: ouch thats a bad one
[2013/05/16 15:16] Maestro Linden: Yes, thanks for filing that Lucia
[2013/05/16 15:16] Maestro Linden: Lucia outlined the bug in this forum post: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/Deploys-for-the-week-of-2013-05-13-Updated-at-2013-05-14-14/m-p/2009617/highlight/true#M10568
[2013/05/16 15:16] Lucia Nightfire: I discovered the first one when my dasher stopped working after a region change, then the other when I dashed into a region and "kept on going", heh
[2013/05/16 15:17] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you!
[2013/05/16 15:17] Tiberious Neruda: oh lovely...
[2013/05/16 15:17] Maestro Linden: So between Lucia's bug and the Json changes we need, we already know that the project needs another week in RC
[2013/05/16 15:19] Object: Hello, Avatar!
[2013/05/16 15:19] Rex Cronon: so, if script resets upon sim/regions change u should get controls back just fine
[2013/05/16 15:19] Maestro Linden: It seemed that returning to a main channel region also restored functionality, when I tried out the bug earlier today
[2013/05/16 15:20] Lucia Nightfire: yes
[2013/05/16 15:20] Lucia Nightfire: I also mentioned that too in that jira
[2013/05/16 15:20] Maestro Linden: which is good (the broken behavior isn't permanent)
[2013/05/16 15:20] Lucia Nightfire: you can go back to a mc region and it'll work again
[2013/05/16 15:21] Maestro Linden: So, that's about all I had for updates
[2013/05/16 15:21] Maestro Linden: There's a future server-maintenance project in testing on Aditi, which has the pathfinding changes VoidPointer discussed last week
[2013/05/16 15:21] Maestro Linden: Caleb is testing that stuff now
[2013/05/16 15:22] VoidPointer Linden: /me crosses his fin....bats
[2013/05/16 15:24] Maestro Linden: Does anybody else have a topic?
[2013/05/16 15:24] Glyph Graves: Yes I do ... I was wondering if
[2013/05/16 15:25] Maestro Linden: I saw the new Star Trek last night; turns out that Starfleet HQ is pretty close to the main LL office. Coincidence?
[2013/05/16 15:25] Glyph Graves: whats happening with the wind .. the difference between blusteel and SL server which is lloking to be implimented
[2013/05/16 15:25] VoidPointer Linden: sigh, our secret is out..
[2013/05/16 15:26] Rex Cronon: which one of u is spock:)
[2013/05/16 15:26] Maestro Linden: Hm, there's a wind difference between BlueSteel and the main channel this week?
[2013/05/16 15:26] Glyph Graves: yes
[2013/05/16 15:26] Tiberious Neruda: really, hmm?
[2013/05/16 15:26] Jonathan Yap: What is the difference?
[2013/05/16 15:26] Glyph Graves: on bluesteel the wind vector changes uniformly and simutaniously
[2013/05/16 15:26] Tiberious Neruda: they give an address?
[2013/05/16 15:26] Maestro Linden: The wind shouldn't have changed
[2013/05/16 15:27] Glyph Graves: there is no pattern on blue stell
[2013/05/16 15:27] Glyph Graves: bluesteel
[2013/05/16 15:27] Maestro Linden: I think we're mostly Scotties around here, Rex :)
[2013/05/16 15:27] Tiberious Neruda: don't doubt THA either...
[2013/05/16 15:27] Whirly Fizzle: I thought the last wind changes were in Feb?
[2013/05/16 15:27] VoidPointer Linden: /me raises one eyebrow
[2013/05/16 15:28] Glyph Graves: on SL server it seems to retain the old behavour abiet painfuly slow
[2013/05/16 15:28] Maestro Linden: Have you measured it over a period of time? The wind is somewhat cyclical, but the cycle period is very long..
[2013/05/16 15:28] Glyph Graves: yes ... I have a visual display
[2013/05/16 15:28] Glyph Graves: spent a few hours
[2013/05/16 15:28] Maestro Linden: Whirly: right, wind was intentionally change a few months ago
[2013/05/16 15:29] Glyph Graves: its not a cyclyic thing the differnce has benn there over the last few weeks Ive been looking at it
[2013/05/16 15:29] Whirly Fizzle: 13.02.08.270166 "Less frequent wind variation "
[2013/05/16 15:29] Glyph Graves: the dramatic drop in windspee broke a piece of mine
[2013/05/16 15:30] Maestro Linden: Huh, so you're saying the difference is based on channel name instead of version number?
[2013/05/16 15:30] Glyph Graves: yes I know there is no variation on blue steel across the sim.. it flips uniformly across the whole sim
[2013/05/16 15:30] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): whats up with simon today? he keeps joining and leaving the region :P
[2013/05/16 15:30] Glyph Graves: yes its a channel difference
[2013/05/16 15:31] VoidPointer Linden: perhaps a script is generating a fake wind in the place you're testing?
[2013/05/16 15:31] Maestro Linden: Are you sure that there's no external factor such as local position in the sim that you meansure wind velocity in?
[2013/05/16 15:31] VoidPointer Linden: (not sure that's possible...but it's an idea)
[2013/05/16 15:31] Glyph Graves: ? it usese llwind
[2013/05/16 15:32] Glyph Graves: it samples the sim at 100 different locations
[2013/05/16 15:32] Maestro Linden: Well, it's worth a Jira if you have the scripts handy to demonstrate the difference
[2013/05/16 15:33] Glyph Graves: yes I can work up something
[2013/05/16 15:33] Maestro Linden: I would probably run it for a few hours in the main channel sandbox, and see if it's any different in the bluesteel RC sandbox. I would probably have both of them sample the wind at <128,128,30> or something..
[2013/05/16 15:34] Glyph Graves: also the slownest of the wind overall has borked some of my content .. was the saving in bandwidth really worth it?
[2013/05/16 15:34] arton Rotaru: cpu cycles
[2013/05/16 15:34] Glyph Graves: Ill do an overal euclidian distance
[2013/05/16 15:35] Glyph Graves: ok was it significant ?
[2013/05/16 15:35] arton Rotaru: guess not ^^
[2013/05/16 15:35] Glyph Graves: its broke this http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2011/05/glyph-graves-mesmerizing-and-venerable-wind-sculpture.html
[2013/05/16 15:35] Glyph Graves: which Im not very happy about
[2013/05/16 15:36] Marcel Rydell: Is the fmod.log file is a known bug ? it appears in the directory of the exported dae mesh...
[2013/05/16 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: This brok in feb when the wind changed?
[2013/05/16 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: *boke
[2013/05/16 15:36] Jonathan Yap: Fmod is the sound library
[2013/05/16 15:36] Glyph Graves: yes
[2013/05/16 15:36] Whirly Fizzle: OMG broke grrrr
[2013/05/16 15:37] Glyph Graves: they just end up hanginf most of the time playing teh sam note
[2013/05/16 15:37] Glyph Graves: same colour
[2013/05/16 15:37] arton Rotaru: make your own wind
[2013/05/16 15:37] Maestro Linden: Hm, I can't immediately find a jira about a stray fmod log file. The viewer team may know about it, though..
[2013/05/16 15:37] Whirly Fizzle: I guess this is the same complaint as https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-1775 then? (Feature Request: return SL wind behavior to previous, more chaotic style )
[2013/05/16 15:37] Glyph Graves: the wind was oneof the few environmental charactteristics of sl you could do something with
[2013/05/16 15:38] arton Rotaru: true, I use it as well for some water toys
[2013/05/16 15:38] Glyph Graves: ah thanks I looked but couldnt find anything
[2013/05/16 15:38] arton Rotaru: drifting inflatable mattress
[2013/05/16 15:38] arton Rotaru: good thing about the wind is, all mattresses drift in the same direction
[2013/05/16 15:39] Glyph Graves: Ill work up some code to show the difference between the two channels for a jira ..
[2013/05/16 15:39] Glyph Graves: but Im not the only one whos works been broken by teh change
[2013/05/16 15:39] Maestro Linden: Okay, sounds good
[2013/05/16 15:40] Motor Loon: I'm sure lots of content is in the works or already out that relies on the new wind too though...
[2013/05/16 15:41] Glyph Graves: was it announced before it was changed?
[2013/05/16 15:41] arton Rotaru: yep
[2013/05/16 15:41] Kennylex Luckless: I has to ask, has you talked about the crash bug Ansi found?
[2013/05/16 15:41] Lucia Nightfire: yes, kenny
[2013/05/16 15:41] Lucia Nightfire: its a known bug beign looking at
[2013/05/16 15:41] Glyph Graves: sigh.. can I ask where ?
[2013/05/16 15:41] Jenna Felton: talking about jiira, i filled a report, the https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-2593 and i am sure i not changed anything after that, and the Activity tab says that i have updated the description. Why isit so?
[2013/05/16 15:41] arton Rotaru: andrew talked about it in some user groups
[2013/05/16 15:41] Kennylex Luckless: Okay, it was a bit scary.
[2013/05/16 15:42] Jenna Felton: (ok after Glyph)
[2013/05/16 15:42] Glyph Graves: hmmm not likly to get broad coverage then
[2013/05/16 15:42] arton Rotaru: it might be mentioned as well in the server release notes, not sure
[2013/05/16 15:42] Glyph Graves: after the fact
[2013/05/16 15:42] Maestro Linden: Yes, and it was in RC for a few weeks before it went out everywhere: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_Magnum/13#13.01.17.269162
[2013/05/16 15:42] arton Rotaru: yeah
[2013/05/16 15:43] Glyph Graves: guess ll have to start reading them religiously then
[2013/05/16 15:43] arton Rotaru: indeed
[2013/05/16 15:43] Lucia Nightfire: so where are we on current projects, like ssa and materials etc
[2013/05/16 15:44] Lucia Nightfire: and them particles, lol
[2013/05/16 15:44] arton Rotaru: yeah ribbons
[2013/05/16 15:44] Maestro Linden: server-side baking you mean?
[2013/05/16 15:44] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): its no longer called that
[2013/05/16 15:45] Lucia Nightfire: for one, ya
[2013/05/16 15:45] Motor Loon: wonder if those new particles will be useful to make "ropes" an stuff like that
[2013/05/16 15:45] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): its Server Side Apperence now :P
[2013/05/16 15:45] Maestro Linden: I lost track of where the new ribbon particle effects are in the viewer development pipeline,
[2013/05/16 15:45] Lucia Nightfire: probably Motor
[2013/05/16 15:45] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): cus it deals with more than just baking
[2013/05/16 15:45] Maestro Linden: they've been around in a development branch, but I'm not sure if they're in the beta viewer yet
[2013/05/16 15:45] Lucia Nightfire: I was thinking nyan cat trails, lolcat trails, light cycle walls, and Akira taillights personally, heh
[2013/05/16 15:46] Tiberious Neruda: /me sighs
[2013/05/16 15:46] Tiberious Neruda: well, I know Materials has problems on rigged meshes...
[2013/05/16 15:46] Maestro Linden: the materials viewer is coming along; there are project viewer updates once or twice a week
[2013/05/16 15:46] Rex Cronon: now everybody will wear a nyan cat tail:)
[2013/05/16 15:46] Jenna Felton: imagine a walkman worn in the one hand and ear phones worn on ears and the wire is .. bouncing
[2013/05/16 15:46] arton Rotaru: or three times a day ^^
[2013/05/16 15:46] VoidPointer Linden: /me wants ribbon particles trailing each bat
[2013/05/16 15:47] Tiberious Neruda: set something to alpha masking and wear it (if it's rigged), and that material looks completly opaque
[2013/05/16 15:47] Whirly Fizzle: (For jenna, the JIRA just lists it as "updated the description of" but that was actually from when you filed it)
[2013/05/16 15:47] Lucia Nightfire: *longcat, sorry, heh
[2013/05/16 15:47] Margithe: i think the first implementation will be collar leashes ;)
[2013/05/16 15:47] Duckie Dickins: you mean an ipod right? :D
[2013/05/16 15:47] Kennylex Luckless: I think a auto ban function for Nya Cat would be better.
[2013/05/16 15:47] Jenna Felton: ah, thank you Whirly
[2013/05/16 15:47] Tiberious Neruda: Spin Dash trails?
[2013/05/16 15:47] Jenna Felton: anything that has ear phones on it Duckie :)
[2013/05/16 15:48] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): there is no more viewer-dev repo :P
[2013/05/16 15:48] Tiberious Neruda: or would that be light dash?
[2013/05/16 15:48] arton Rotaru: I have some odd ghost framing with the materials viewer and llTargetOmega
[2013/05/16 15:48] Maestro Linden: Tiberious, is there a Jira associated with that?
[2013/05/16 15:50] Tiberious Neruda: doesn't look like it
[2013/05/16 15:50] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): I think arton's issue have also LL's 3.5.1 viewer. It is from pipeline of shadows.
[2013/05/16 15:51] arton Rotaru: nah, it's only when I focus the cam on the wheel
[2013/05/16 15:51] Maestro Linden: Ah, camera stutter when you focus on a spinning llTargetOmega() object?
[2013/05/16 15:51] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): It rotates blinking now.
[2013/05/16 15:51] arton Rotaru: yes
[2013/05/16 15:51] Lucia Nightfire: I see it too, heh
[2013/05/16 15:51] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): only focusing?
[2013/05/16 15:52] arton Rotaru: well, it's like a ghost frame showing
[2013/05/16 15:52] Tiberious Neruda: but visually, the effect is the same as MATBUG-42, just on a rigged mesh
[2013/05/16 15:52] Lucia Nightfire: looks like one frame is the stationary object, the next is the new rotation
[2013/05/16 15:52] Lucia Nightfire: and repeat
[2013/05/16 15:52] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Does it have alpha texture?
[2013/05/16 15:52] Tiberious Neruda: and it happens even with Deferred Rendering on
[2013/05/16 15:53] arton Rotaru: yep
[2013/05/16 15:53] arton Rotaru: alpha
[2013/05/16 15:53] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): not rotating?
[2013/05/16 15:53] Maestro Linden: so it's specific to alpha-blended textures?
[2013/05/16 15:53] arton Rotaru: not texture animation, just targetOmega
[2013/05/16 15:53] Tiberious Neruda: Maestro: which?
[2013/05/16 15:53] arton Rotaru: not sure, but I guess not
[2013/05/16 15:53] Lucia Nightfire: nvm, theres oscillation in there, heh
[2013/05/16 15:53] Whirly Fizzle: Is the rotating flicker issue like this? http://www.screencast.com/t/n5szpPnTB3nV
[2013/05/16 15:54] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): It is just what I see on LL 3.5.1 viewer.
[2013/05/16 15:54] arton Rotaru: hm nope
[2013/05/16 15:55] Maestro Linden: Maybe I'm getting crosstalk; you said that object spinning with llTargetOmega() appear like MATBUG-42 (fully opaque) when you focus your camera on them?
[2013/05/16 15:55] arton Rotaru: I just see it very stuttering
[2013/05/16 15:55] Duckie Dickins: i see it too
[2013/05/16 15:55] arton Rotaru: nope, that was another issue I think, from Tib
[2013/05/16 15:55] YuNi Workout Bench2 (1.1): whispers: Add all 3 weights to your outfit. They will only be visible for the suiting workouts
[2013/05/16 15:55] Lucia Nightfire: I see it whether opaque or not
[2013/05/16 15:56] Duckie Dickins: even the wood textured one studders
[2013/05/16 15:56] arton Rotaru: only when focusing the cam on the object
[2013/05/16 15:56] Maestro Linden: which viewers are you using?
[2013/05/16 15:56] Tiberious Neruda: gah... crashed
[2013/05/16 15:56] arton Rotaru: if you focus on the ground it rotates smooth
[2013/05/16 15:56] Duckie Dickins: I'm using 3.5.1
[2013/05/16 15:56] Maestro Linden: oh ok
[2013/05/16 15:56] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): What I saw doesn't have alpha and opaque.
[2013/05/16 15:56] arton Rotaru: Second Life 3.5.3 (276007) May 16 2013 18:16:26 (Second Life Project Materials)
[2013/05/16 15:56] Lucia Nightfire: its off an on too when changing focus on different parts of teh rim/tire
[2013/05/16 15:56] Maestro Linden: I see the stuttering in 3.5.1 release
[2013/05/16 15:56] arton Rotaru: but it was like that in all Mat viewers so far
[2013/05/16 15:57] Tiberious Neruda: ack!
[2013/05/16 15:57] arton Rotaru: ok, maybe it's not even Mat viewer related then^^
[2013/05/16 15:57] Tiberious Neruda: BRB
[2013/05/16 15:57] Tiberious Neruda: again
[2013/05/16 15:57] Tiberious Neruda: bad connection
[2013/05/16 15:57] arton Rotaru: looks pretty bad actually
[2013/05/16 15:58] M Tester (maestro.tester): hm, 'Second Life 3.5.3 (276065) May 16 2013 20:33:28 (Second Life Project Materials)' here. I see the same stuttering effect when focusing on the wheels, but do not see the wheel on the right become fully opaque at any point
[2013/05/16 15:58] Tiberious Neruda: much better
[2013/05/16 15:58] arton Rotaru: nope, no alpha issue there
[2013/05/16 15:58] Whirly Fizzle: I see it stuttering on Firestorm
[2013/05/16 15:59] arton Rotaru: that was Tiberius issue with rigged mesh I guess
[2013/05/16 15:59] Tiberious Neruda: hm?
[2013/05/16 15:59] Margithe: i see it running smooth...
[2013/05/16 15:59] M Tester (maestro.tester): Since it also happens in the release viewer, I think we can call this unrelated to materials..
[2013/05/16 15:59] M Tester (maestro.tester): oh
[2013/05/16 15:59] Duckie Dickins: focus your cam on the wheel
[2013/05/16 15:59] arton Rotaru: or maybe not, lost track as well ^^
[2013/05/16 15:59] Margithe: i did. I have an older firestorm though
[2013/05/16 15:59] arton Rotaru: yep
[2013/05/16 15:59] Whirly Fizzle: Um on tip
[2013/05/16 15:59] Whirly Fizzle: *Im
[2013/05/16 15:59] arton Rotaru: just noticed it while playing with the wheel
[2013/05/16 15:59] STAR: Hello, Avatar!
[2013/05/16 16:00] Duckie Dickins: yep..looks fine if I don't focus the cam on it..
[2013/05/16 16:00] Whirly Fizzle: You see it stutter Tank?
[2013/05/16 16:00] Margithe: Firestorm 4.3.1 (31155) doesn't show the wheel stuttering.
[2013/05/16 16:00] M Tester (maestro.tester): the normal maps do make it pretty, though
[2013/05/16 16:00] Whirly Fizzle: Ill bet 4.4.0 does
[2013/05/16 16:00] arton Rotaru: yup
[2013/05/16 16:00] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): i see the studdering also
[2013/05/16 16:00] Whirly Fizzle: You on tip?
[2013/05/16 16:00] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): its suddle, but noticable if your looking for it
[2013/05/16 16:00] Tiberious Neruda: my framerate is too low to tell
[2013/05/16 16:01] Nal (nalates.urriah): I'm in 3.5.2 (275470) Materials and it stutters
[2013/05/16 16:01] Lucia Nightfire: I'm on the 4.4.0 release and see it
[2013/05/16 16:01] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): if not, just a few changesets behind tip
[2013/05/16 16:01] Duckie Dickins: the cube doesn't studder for me
[2013/05/16 16:01] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): me neither
[2013/05/16 16:02] arton Rotaru: it's hard to see on the cube
[2013/05/16 16:02] Whirly Fizzle: 4.3.0 Firestorm where no stutter is 3.3.3 codebase. Doesnt narrow it down much heh
[2013/05/16 16:02] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): I can't find the issue here..
[2013/05/16 16:02] Rex Cronon: i g2g. tc everyboyd and have a ice day:)
[2013/05/16 16:02] Blake Burger: fine over here 3.5.1 (mac os)
[2013/05/16 16:02] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): same prim but different script
[2013/05/16 16:02] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): tc rex
[2013/05/16 16:02] Rex Cronon: everybody*
[2013/05/16 16:02] Margithe: Sorry, i don't update too often >.<
[2013/05/16 16:02] Rex Cronon: :)
[2013/05/16 16:02] Maestro Linden: Me too, I have to get back to these JSON issues
[2013/05/16 16:02] And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): youll need to update when SSA arives
[2013/05/16 16:02] Maestro Linden: thanks for coming, everybody!
[2013/05/16 16:03] Whirly Fizzle: Thanks Lindens :)
[2013/05/16 16:03] VoidPointer Linden: have a great week!
[2013/05/16 16:03] Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Maestro.
[2013/05/16 16:03] Blake Burger: cya everyone.
[2013/05/16 16:03] Blake Burger: * Bye *
[2013/05/16 16:03] fuse McGinnis: bye and thanks
[2013/05/16 16:03] Margithe: See you guys on tuesday, bye!
[2013/05/16 16:03] Tiberious Neruda: this mesh I'm wearing now would make a perfect test for the alpha masking bug...
[2013/05/16 16:03] arton Rotaru: thx for the meeting
[2013/05/16 16:03] Nal (nalates.urriah): Thx, bye
</pre>

Breedables Guide For Second Life

Avalon Crystal — Fri, 17 May 2013 01:32:20 GMT

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	[http://www.goldtokens.net/index.php?title=Shubbies Shubbies] are a breedable pet that act as companions in the [http://www.goldtokens.net/index.php?title=Fish_Hunt Fish Hunt]		[http://www.goldtokens.net/index.php?title=Shubbies Shubbies] are a breedable pet that act as companions in the [http://www.goldtokens.net/index.php?title=Fish_Hunt Fish Hunt]

-	== Amaretto Horses ==	+	== Amaretto Breedables==
		+	====Amaretto Horses====
		+	Interactive Breedable Horses that you can pet, ride, race, and breed based on genetics.

-	[http://amarettobreedables.com/ Amaretto ~~Horses~~] ~~are a type of breedable, breading features are primarily coat and appearance.~~	+	====Amaretto K-9s====
		+
		+	====Amaretto Barnyard Birds====
		+
		+	[http://amarettobreedables.com/ Amaretto Ranch Breedables]

	== CritterBreeds ==		== CritterBreeds ==

Viewer Materials Smoke Test

Maestro Linden — Fri, 17 May 2013 00:05:44 GMT

Rendering with Normal Maps:

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	== Rendering with Normal Maps ==		== Rendering with Normal Maps ==
-	# Enter the 'Materials rendering test room' at http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bug%20Island%202/~~233~~/~~251~~/42	+	# Enter the 'Materials rendering test room' at http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bug%20Island%202/235/248/46
	# Click World -> Sun -> Midday to set the viewer lighting		# Click World -> Sun -> Midday to set the viewer lighting
	# Enable "Advanced Lighting Model" in your Preferences, under Graphics->Advanced		# Enable "Advanced Lighting Model" in your Preferences, under Graphics->Advanced

User:Saeros Linden/Active Releases

Saeros Linden — Thu, 16 May 2013 22:29:42 GMT

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	\|[[Viewerhelp:Map File/Second Life/3.5.0]]		\|[[Viewerhelp:Map File/Second Life/3.5.0]]

Server Beta User Group

Maestro Linden — Thu, 16 May 2013 21:18:08 GMT

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	This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Maestro Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the '''Second Life Beta''' group for updates.		This is the meeting tracking and progress page for the weekly Server BETA QA Meeting, moderated by Maestro Linden. Please contact him on AGNI for more information. You can join the '''Second Life Beta''' group for updates.

-	'''The next meeting is Thursday, May 18 2013, 3PM PDT at {{SLurl\|region=Morris\|x=210\|y=250\|z=35\|title=Morris}} on the preview grid, [[Preview_Grid \| ADITI]].'''	+	'''The next meeting is Thursday, May 16 2013, 3PM PDT at {{SLurl\|region=Morris\|x=210\|y=250\|z=35\|title=Morris}} on the preview grid, [[Preview_Grid \| ADITI]].'''

	* Join the email list - sign up here: https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/server-beta		* Join the email list - sign up here: https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/server-beta
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	=== Updates ===		=== Updates ===

-	* The main channel was updated to the version that was on ~~Magnum~~ last week	+	* The main channel was updated to the version that was on all 3 RCs last week
-	** [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server~~/13#13.04.29.274986]]~~	+	** [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server/13#13.05.04.275247]]
-	** This project adds some minor new features for LSL HTTP functions, changes how certain script actions are throttled, and fixes some crash modes	+	** This release should have no visible changes, relative to this week's main channel
-	** This project also restored LSL Animation Override functionality	+
-		+
-	* BlueSteel, LeTigre, and Magnum are on the experience tools project	+
-	** [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/13#13.05.04.275247]]	+
-	** This ~~update~~ should have no visible changes, relative to this week's main channel	+
	** The experience tools team wants to wait until the tools are fully available before announcing the details		** The experience tools team wants to wait until the tools are fully available before announcing the details
		+
		+	* BlueSteel, LeTigre, and Magnum are on a new server maintenance project
		+	** [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/13#13.05.14.275813]]
		+	** This release contains bugfixes and adds Json parsing/construction support to LSL
		+	** Two bugs were reported yesterday (one in the new Json feature, and one about LSL control events in child prims of attachments), so this version won't go to the main channel next week

	=== Upcoming Stuff ===		=== Upcoming Stuff ===

Release Notes/Second Life Beta Viewer/3.5.2

Steven Linden — Thu, 16 May 2013 20:51:05 GMT

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	__NOTOC__		__NOTOC__
	[[Category:Release Notes for Beta Versions]]		[[Category:Release Notes for Beta Versions]]
-	==Release Notes for v3.5.2 (~~275653~~) - Second Life Beta Viewer==	+	==Release Notes for v3.5.2 (275985) - Second Life Beta Viewer==
	{{KnownIssuesHeader}}		{{KnownIssuesHeader}}
-	{{GenericDownloadBox\|Beta\|Released on May 13, 2013.\|type=beta\|windows=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-2-~~275653_Beta_Viewer_Setup~~.exe\|macintosh=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/~~SecondLife_3_5_2_275653_BETAVIEWER~~.dmg\|linux=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.2.~~275653~~.tar.bz2}}	+	{{GenericDownloadBox\|Beta\|Released on May 16, 2013.\|type=beta\|windows=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-2-275985_Beta_Viewer_Setup.exe\|macintosh=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_5_2_275985_BETAVIEWER.dmg\|linux=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.2.275985.tar.bz2}}
	{{GreenCheckbox\|title=Resolved Issues\|body=* {{jira\|DRTVWR-293}} Fix for MAINT-1255		{{GreenCheckbox\|title=Resolved Issues\|body=* {{jira\|DRTVWR-293}} Fix for MAINT-1255
	* {{jira\|DRTVWR-294}} Fix for MAINT-2157		* {{jira\|DRTVWR-294}} Fix for MAINT-2157
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	* {{jira\|BUG-1596}} Viewer randomly crashes when uploading image to my inventory		* {{jira\|BUG-1596}} Viewer randomly crashes when uploading image to my inventory
	* {{jira\|BUG-2365}} Changing 'Body fat' value makes you fall under ground		* {{jira\|BUG-2365}} Changing 'Body fat' value makes you fall under ground
-	* {{jira\|SH-4063}} User does not see their update to hover state, but other users do
	* {{jira\|CHUI-911}} [CHUIBUG]When Chat side of Conversations floater is reduced to its minimum width the scroll bar is half-obscured.		* {{jira\|CHUI-911}} [CHUIBUG]When Chat side of Conversations floater is reduced to its minimum width the scroll bar is half-obscured.
-	* {{jira\|SH-4056}} Changes to hover state show before saving shape but then not after while still in editing mode
	* {{jira\|SH-3331}} LLCore::HttpOpRequest::readCallback warning in secondlife.log after ViewerAssetMetrics sent		* {{jira\|SH-3331}} LLCore::HttpOpRequest::readCallback warning in secondlife.log after ViewerAssetMetrics sent
	* {{jira\|SH-4050}} camera points at the sky when Hover is set to 0 on a SLS region		* {{jira\|SH-4050}} camera points at the sky when Hover is set to 0 on a SLS region
		+	* {{jira\|SH-4060}} Setting hover to a low value causes it to be set to an even lower value.
	* {{jira\|CHUI-912}} [CHUIBUG]Cancelling an inventory search before the search is complete results in blank inventory contents		* {{jira\|CHUI-912}} [CHUIBUG]Cancelling an inventory search before the search is complete results in blank inventory contents
	* {{jira\|CHUI-796}} User doesn't get all messages in 'do not disturb' mode		* {{jira\|CHUI-796}} User doesn't get all messages in 'do not disturb' mode
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	* {{jira\|CHUI-838}} [CHUIBUG]Opening chat history for groups only works once per session, if at all		* {{jira\|CHUI-838}} [CHUIBUG]Opening chat history for groups only works once per session, if at all
	* {{jira\|SUN-63}} Avatar sits in the air if set "Hover 100" and click "Sit here" on the ground		* {{jira\|SUN-63}} Avatar sits in the air if set "Hover 100" and click "Sit here" on the ground
-	* {{jira\|SH-~~4060~~}} ~~Setting~~ hover ~~to a low value causes it to be set to an even lower value.~~	+	* {{jira\|SH-4063}} User does not see their update to hover state, but other users do
	* {{jira\|CHUI-872}} [CHUIBUG]Torn off chats with message panel hidden sometimes disappear after entering and exiting mouselook		* {{jira\|CHUI-872}} [CHUIBUG]Torn off chats with message panel hidden sometimes disappear after entering and exiting mouselook
	* {{jira\|SH-4064}} Your own nametag may disappear when editing your hover value on shape		* {{jira\|SH-4064}} Your own nametag may disappear when editing your hover value on shape
		+	* {{jira\|SH-4056}} Changes to hover state show before saving shape but then not after while still in editing mode
	* {{jira\|SH-4099}} Avatar sits in the air if set "Hover 100" and click "Sit here" on the ground		* {{jira\|SH-4099}} Avatar sits in the air if set "Hover 100" and click "Sit here" on the ground
	}}		}}
-	{{YellowWarningbox\|title=Supported Versions\|body=With this release, we support Second Life Release versions 3.5.1 (274821), 3.5.0 (273444), 3.4.5 (270263), and Second Life Beta Viewer version 3.5.2 (~~275653~~). For more information, please go to the [[Supported Viewers]] page.}}	+	{{YellowWarningbox\|title=Supported Versions\|body=With this release, we support Second Life Release versions 3.5.1 (274821), 3.5.0 (273444), 3.4.5 (270263), and Second Life Beta Viewer version 3.5.2 (275985). For more information, please go to the [[Supported Viewers]] page.}}

Supported Viewers

Steven Linden — Thu, 16 May 2013 20:50:35 GMT

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	* Second Life Viewer version 3.5.0 (273444) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-0-273444_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_5_0_273444.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.0.273444.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.5.0\|Release Notes]] ]		* Second Life Viewer version 3.5.0 (273444) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-0-273444_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_5_0_273444.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.0.273444.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.5.0\|Release Notes]] ]
	* Second Life Viewer version 3.4.5 (270263) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-4-5-270263_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_4_5_270263.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.4.5.270263.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.4.5\|Release Notes]] ]		* Second Life Viewer version 3.4.5 (270263) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-4-5-270263_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_4_5_270263.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.4.5.270263.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.4.5\|Release Notes]] ]
-	* Second Life Beta Viewer version 3.5.2 (~~275653~~) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-2-~~275653_Beta_Viewer_Setup~~.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/~~SecondLife_3_5_2_275653_BETAVIEWER~~.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.2.~~275653~~.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Viewer/3.5.2\|Release Notes]] ]	+	* Second Life Beta Viewer version 3.5.2 (275985) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-2-275985_Beta_Viewer_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_5_2_275985_BETAVIEWER.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.2.275985.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Viewer/3.5.2\|Release Notes]] ]
	<br>		<br>
	{{KBtip\|You can always easily [[System_info\|see what Viewer version you're using]].}}}}		{{KBtip\|You can always easily [[System_info\|see what Viewer version you're using]].}}}}

User talk:ANSI Soderstrom/Misc useful functions

Kireji Haiku — Thu, 16 May 2013 16:02:42 GMT

fixed bug in script

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	string WelcomeMsg = "Hello %0, welcome to this home owned by %1"; // Typically this text might come from a notecard		string WelcomeMsg = "Hello %0, welcome to this home owned by %1"; // Typically this text might come from a notecard

-	llSay(0, CustomiseText(WelcomeMsg, llDetectedName(0), OwnerName) );	+	llSay(0, CustomiseText(WelcomeMsg, [llDetectedName(0), OwnerName]) );

	</lsl>		</lsl>

Changed

ANSI Soderstrom — Thu, 16 May 2013 07:23:32 GMT

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Template:Main Page/APIs

Jeremy Linden — Thu, 16 May 2013 04:58:58 GMT

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	'''Official Second Life APIs''':		'''Official Second Life APIs''':
-	* [[Exchange Risk API]] - For third-party L$ exchanges.
	* [[Registration API]] - Register SL Residents from a web page.		* [[Registration API]] - Register SL Residents from a web page.
	* [[Map API]] - Embed SL maps in your site.		* [[Map API]] - Embed SL maps in your site.

Linden Lab Official:Terms of Service Archive

Jeremy Linden — Thu, 16 May 2013 04:32:55 GMT

Linden Lab Official:Terms of Service Archive/Through 6 May 2013

Jeremy Linden — Wed, 15 May 2013 22:07:19 GMT

Created page with "{{TOS Archive}} __NOTOC__ Last Updated and Effective Date: December 15, 2010 Welcome to Second Life! This agreement (this "Agreement" or the "Terms of …"

Shortcut keys

MartinRJ Fayray — Wed, 15 May 2013 21:48:48 GMT

Redirect to KB

New page

{{#Widget:Redirect|url=/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Keyboard-shortcuts/ta-p/1086557}}

Shortcut Keys

MartinRJ Fayray — Wed, 15 May 2013 21:47:05 GMT

Redirect to KB

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	[[Category:Release Notes for Beta Versions]]		[[Category:Release Notes for Beta Versions]]
-	==Release Notes for v3.5.2 (~~275653~~) - Second Life Beta Viewer==	+	==Release Notes for v3.5.2 (275985) - Second Life Beta Viewer==
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-	{{GenericDownloadBox\|Beta\|Released on May 13, 2013.\|type=beta\|windows=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-2-~~275653_Beta_Viewer_Setup~~.exe\|macintosh=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/~~SecondLife_3_5_2_275653_BETAVIEWER~~.dmg\|linux=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.2.~~275653~~.tar.bz2}}	+	{{GenericDownloadBox\|Beta\|Released on May 16, 2013.\|type=beta\|windows=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-2-275985_Beta_Viewer_Setup.exe\|macintosh=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_5_2_275985_BETAVIEWER.dmg\|linux=http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.2.275985.tar.bz2}}
	{{GreenCheckbox\|title=Resolved Issues\|body=* {{jira\|DRTVWR-293}} Fix for MAINT-1255		{{GreenCheckbox\|title=Resolved Issues\|body=* {{jira\|DRTVWR-293}} Fix for MAINT-1255
	* {{jira\|DRTVWR-294}} Fix for MAINT-2157		* {{jira\|DRTVWR-294}} Fix for MAINT-2157
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	* {{jira\|BUG-1596}} Viewer randomly crashes when uploading image to my inventory		* {{jira\|BUG-1596}} Viewer randomly crashes when uploading image to my inventory
	* {{jira\|BUG-2365}} Changing 'Body fat' value makes you fall under ground		* {{jira\|BUG-2365}} Changing 'Body fat' value makes you fall under ground
-	* {{jira\|SH-4063}} User does not see their update to hover state, but other users do
	* {{jira\|CHUI-911}} [CHUIBUG]When Chat side of Conversations floater is reduced to its minimum width the scroll bar is half-obscured.		* {{jira\|CHUI-911}} [CHUIBUG]When Chat side of Conversations floater is reduced to its minimum width the scroll bar is half-obscured.
-	* {{jira\|SH-4056}} Changes to hover state show before saving shape but then not after while still in editing mode
	* {{jira\|SH-3331}} LLCore::HttpOpRequest::readCallback warning in secondlife.log after ViewerAssetMetrics sent		* {{jira\|SH-3331}} LLCore::HttpOpRequest::readCallback warning in secondlife.log after ViewerAssetMetrics sent
	* {{jira\|SH-4050}} camera points at the sky when Hover is set to 0 on a SLS region		* {{jira\|SH-4050}} camera points at the sky when Hover is set to 0 on a SLS region
		+	* {{jira\|SH-4060}} Setting hover to a low value causes it to be set to an even lower value.
	* {{jira\|CHUI-912}} [CHUIBUG]Cancelling an inventory search before the search is complete results in blank inventory contents		* {{jira\|CHUI-912}} [CHUIBUG]Cancelling an inventory search before the search is complete results in blank inventory contents
	* {{jira\|CHUI-796}} User doesn't get all messages in 'do not disturb' mode		* {{jira\|CHUI-796}} User doesn't get all messages in 'do not disturb' mode
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	* {{jira\|CHUI-838}} [CHUIBUG]Opening chat history for groups only works once per session, if at all		* {{jira\|CHUI-838}} [CHUIBUG]Opening chat history for groups only works once per session, if at all
	* {{jira\|SUN-63}} Avatar sits in the air if set "Hover 100" and click "Sit here" on the ground		* {{jira\|SUN-63}} Avatar sits in the air if set "Hover 100" and click "Sit here" on the ground
-	* {{jira\|SH-~~4060~~}} ~~Setting~~ hover ~~to a low value causes it to be set to an even lower value.~~	+	* {{jira\|SH-4063}} User does not see their update to hover state, but other users do
	* {{jira\|CHUI-872}} [CHUIBUG]Torn off chats with message panel hidden sometimes disappear after entering and exiting mouselook		* {{jira\|CHUI-872}} [CHUIBUG]Torn off chats with message panel hidden sometimes disappear after entering and exiting mouselook
	* {{jira\|SH-4064}} Your own nametag may disappear when editing your hover value on shape		* {{jira\|SH-4064}} Your own nametag may disappear when editing your hover value on shape
		+	* {{jira\|SH-4056}} Changes to hover state show before saving shape but then not after while still in editing mode
	* {{jira\|SH-4099}} Avatar sits in the air if set "Hover 100" and click "Sit here" on the ground		* {{jira\|SH-4099}} Avatar sits in the air if set "Hover 100" and click "Sit here" on the ground
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-	{{YellowWarningbox\|title=Supported Versions\|body=With this release, we support Second Life Release versions 3.5.1 (274821), 3.5.0 (273444), 3.4.5 (270263), and Second Life Beta Viewer version 3.5.2 (~~275653~~). For more information, please go to the [[Supported Viewers]] page.}}	+	{{YellowWarningbox\|title=Supported Versions\|body=With this release, we support Second Life Release versions 3.5.1 (274821), 3.5.0 (273444), 3.4.5 (270263), and Second Life Beta Viewer version 3.5.2 (275985). For more information, please go to the [[Supported Viewers]] page.}}

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	* Second Life Viewer version 3.5.0 (273444) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-0-273444_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_5_0_273444.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.0.273444.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.5.0\|Release Notes]] ]		* Second Life Viewer version 3.5.0 (273444) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-0-273444_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_5_0_273444.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.0.273444.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.5.0\|Release Notes]] ]
	* Second Life Viewer version 3.4.5 (270263) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-4-5-270263_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_4_5_270263.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.4.5.270263.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.4.5\|Release Notes]] ]		* Second Life Viewer version 3.4.5 (270263) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-4-5-270263_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_4_5_270263.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.4.5.270263.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.4.5\|Release Notes]] ]
-	* Second Life Beta Viewer version 3.5.2 (~~275653~~) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-2-~~275653_Beta_Viewer_Setup~~.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/~~SecondLife_3_5_2_275653_BETAVIEWER~~.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.2.~~275653~~.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Viewer/3.5.2\|Release Notes]] ]	+	* Second Life Beta Viewer version 3.5.2 (275985) [[http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/Second_Life_3-5-2-275985_Beta_Viewer_Setup.exe Windows] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife_3_5_2_275985_BETAVIEWER.dmg Mac] \| [http://download.cloud.secondlife.com/beta-releases/Viewer-3/SecondLife-i686-3.5.2.275985.tar.bz2 Linux] \| [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Viewer/3.5.2\|Release Notes]] ]
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	{{KBtip\|You can always easily [[System_info\|see what Viewer version you're using]].}}}}		{{KBtip\|You can always easily [[System_info\|see what Viewer version you're using]].}}}}