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I find this entire wiki construct for this deeply radical change to Second Life to be very troublesome, because it doesn't allow for normal, forums-type discussion about a huge variety of issues that will profoundly alter SL as we know it. So I urge you to cease this driving of ordinary people to a wiki construct that really can't serve their needs, and open up the forums with "general" "politics/governance" and "land/economy" as it used to be available. I see that as the only fair way to accommodate the many concerns, problems, and fears generated by open-sourcing a platform that has absorbed with little recognition hundreds of thousands of people's dollars and hours. | I find this entire wiki construct for this deeply radical change to Second Life to be very troublesome, because it doesn't allow for normal, forums-type discussion about a huge variety of issues that will profoundly alter SL as we know it. So I urge you to cease this driving of ordinary people to a wiki construct that really can't serve their needs, and open up the forums with "general" "politics/governance" and "land/economy" as it used to be available. I see that as the only fair way to accommodate the many concerns, problems, and fears generated by open-sourcing a platform that has absorbed with little recognition hundreds of thousands of people's dollars and hours. | ||
-Conversation may flow differently on a wiki, but it does allow for proper conversation if used correctly. --[[User:Nik Woodget|Nik Woodget]] 04:01, 22 September 2007 (PDT) | |||
I would like to know who has authored the articles up to this point. I'd like to know their qualifications for so casually writing things like "Should we close the Lindex or not, given it's a limited license for use on a solely-LL owned grid." Sure, this is the decision of a proprietary company in a way. But the LindEx is also a community-owned resource, that has value precisely because people's labour and content production and land development have value. It's a public utility that you can't so casually program hither and youn. | I would like to know who has authored the articles up to this point. I'd like to know their qualifications for so casually writing things like "Should we close the Lindex or not, given it's a limited license for use on a solely-LL owned grid." Sure, this is the decision of a proprietary company in a way. But the LindEx is also a community-owned resource, that has value precisely because people's labour and content production and land development have value. It's a public utility that you can't so casually program hither and youn. | ||
- Quite possible one of the open source devs has written this page. And the question about the lindex is simply something there that we have to consider. Though like you, I would like them to find a way to keep the linden as SL's currency. --[[User:Nik Woodget|Nik Woodget]] 04:01, 22 September 2007 (PDT) | |||
Zero Linden said that Linden always "engineers to migrate the world along with them." But that very perspective lets us know that we are merely a flock that somebody is supposed to "migrate" like dumb beasts, and not *participants in the social as well as technical engineering.* | Zero Linden said that Linden always "engineers to migrate the world along with them." But that very perspective lets us know that we are merely a flock that somebody is supposed to "migrate" like dumb beasts, and not *participants in the social as well as technical engineering.* | ||
- we are participants for this open architecture project, you've juse become a minimal participant writting this. Why not add you own things to the [[Brainstorming]] you belive needs to be considered in the designing of the open architecture.--[[User:Nik Woodget|Nik Woodget]] 04:01, 22 September 2007 (PDT) | |||
I predicted that open sourcing would lead to closure of the Lindex for other reasons (dollarization of the economy) but what boggles the mind here is that despite these really huge issues that will have an enormous impact on people, community, value, land, content, it's being treated as a purely technical exercise -- it's being treated as merely an "architecture" program and not an economic one, and one engineers and not economists and land owners get to decide. | I predicted that open sourcing would lead to closure of the Lindex for other reasons (dollarization of the economy) but what boggles the mind here is that despite these really huge issues that will have an enormous impact on people, community, value, land, content, it's being treated as a purely technical exercise -- it's being treated as merely an "architecture" program and not an economic one, and one engineers and not economists and land owners get to decide. | ||
- like I said, then get yourself and others involved that will look at the economic '''and''' social sides and get them to add they're thoughts and concern to the pages dedicated for this in the wiki. The more who discuss, the more ideas we'll have to play, the more chance residents will get an open architecture that they would like. --[[User:Nik Woodget|Nik Woodget]] 04:01, 22 September 2007 (PDT) | |||
It's anything but a simple programming issue! A decision to close the LindEx has profound implications affecting small business and individual purchases. | It's anything but a simple programming issue! A decision to close the LindEx has profound implications affecting small business and individual purchases. | ||
Prokofy Neva | Prokofy Neva | ||
Revision as of 04:01, 22 September 2007
I find this entire wiki construct for this deeply radical change to Second Life to be very troublesome, because it doesn't allow for normal, forums-type discussion about a huge variety of issues that will profoundly alter SL as we know it. So I urge you to cease this driving of ordinary people to a wiki construct that really can't serve their needs, and open up the forums with "general" "politics/governance" and "land/economy" as it used to be available. I see that as the only fair way to accommodate the many concerns, problems, and fears generated by open-sourcing a platform that has absorbed with little recognition hundreds of thousands of people's dollars and hours.
-Conversation may flow differently on a wiki, but it does allow for proper conversation if used correctly. --Nik Woodget 04:01, 22 September 2007 (PDT)
I would like to know who has authored the articles up to this point. I'd like to know their qualifications for so casually writing things like "Should we close the Lindex or not, given it's a limited license for use on a solely-LL owned grid." Sure, this is the decision of a proprietary company in a way. But the LindEx is also a community-owned resource, that has value precisely because people's labour and content production and land development have value. It's a public utility that you can't so casually program hither and youn.
- Quite possible one of the open source devs has written this page. And the question about the lindex is simply something there that we have to consider. Though like you, I would like them to find a way to keep the linden as SL's currency. --Nik Woodget 04:01, 22 September 2007 (PDT)
Zero Linden said that Linden always "engineers to migrate the world along with them." But that very perspective lets us know that we are merely a flock that somebody is supposed to "migrate" like dumb beasts, and not *participants in the social as well as technical engineering.*
- we are participants for this open architecture project, you've juse become a minimal participant writting this. Why not add you own things to the Brainstorming you belive needs to be considered in the designing of the open architecture.--Nik Woodget 04:01, 22 September 2007 (PDT)
I predicted that open sourcing would lead to closure of the Lindex for other reasons (dollarization of the economy) but what boggles the mind here is that despite these really huge issues that will have an enormous impact on people, community, value, land, content, it's being treated as a purely technical exercise -- it's being treated as merely an "architecture" program and not an economic one, and one engineers and not economists and land owners get to decide.
- like I said, then get yourself and others involved that will look at the economic and social sides and get them to add they're thoughts and concern to the pages dedicated for this in the wiki. The more who discuss, the more ideas we'll have to play, the more chance residents will get an open architecture that they would like. --Nik Woodget 04:01, 22 September 2007 (PDT)
It's anything but a simple programming issue! A decision to close the LindEx has profound implications affecting small business and individual purchases.
Prokofy Neva