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Latest revision as of 11:53, 9 August 2010

List of Attendees

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[11:06] Asterion Coen: especoaly at OH times
[11:06] Enkidu Linden: hi guys!
[11:06] Asterion Coen: hello enkidu :)
[11:07] Enkidu Linden: sorry i'm a bit late
[11:07] Asterion Coen: coffe time ? :)
[11:07] Youri Ashton: hey en :)
[11:07] Enkidu Linden: yes, please!
[11:07] Enkidu Linden: oh i still have some
[11:07] Asterion Coen: i would bet it :)
[11:07] Enkidu Linden: wow, i'm like a chainsmoker
[11:08] Youri Ashton: oh enk, working on a update for that temple i showed, noticed a few things that needed repairs. plus addinga completely new addon pack
[11:08] Asterion Coen: last time you was aghost, today a medusa, what's next ? :)
[11:08] Enkidu Linden: i'm a jellyfish!
[11:08] Youri Ashton: lol
[11:08] Asterion Coen: :)
[11:09] Areal Loonie: oo.. i thought you were a bar stool
[11:09] Enkidu Linden: hahaaa!
[11:09] Asterion Coen: :)
[11:09] Youri Ashton: addon pack will contain new buildings in similar style. its a free pack though
[11:10] Enkidu Linden: i do have quite a collection of avatars
[11:10] Youri Ashton: you aint the only one :p *loves to collect good avis*
[11:10] Asterion Coen: u need the dark vader one :)
[11:10] Enkidu Linden: cool, youri. your temple was totally amazing
[11:11] Youri Ashton: hehe :)
[11:11] Enkidu Linden: what would you guys like to talk about today?
[11:11] Asterion Coen: vacations ? :)
[11:11] Morgaine Dinova: Hi Enki :-)
[11:11] Enkidu Linden: hiya
[11:12] Enkidu Linden: i don't have an agenda today. been swamped
[11:12] Enkidu Linden: always look forward to my OH though
[11:12] Asterion Coen: so, well. what r the good news at LL ? :)
[11:12] Areal Loonie: do you know anything about the OpenId changes to the SL website/forums/blogs?
[11:12] Opensource Obscure: yeah, some good news, please.
[11:13] Youri Ashton: been swamped with work myself, Fall Out 3 modding, SL, and several other things
[11:13] Morgaine Dinova: It's not one of your topics, Enki, but much of today's Groupies chat has been preoccupied with the firing of Qarl.
[11:13] Enkidu Linden: i know a little bit about openid
[11:13] Asterion Coen: qarl left ?
[11:13] Morgaine Dinova: Everyone's utterly mystified.
[11:13] Youri Ashton: he hasnt been at his Oh for ages
[11:13] Areal Loonie: yes. Qarl's departure is all the talk
[11:14] Morgaine Dinova: No, he was "lefted". It wasn't voluntary, and he was in good standing.
[11:14] Asterion Coen: lot of good lindens left those last months
[11:14] Youri Ashton: poor guy, he had so much great ideas
[11:14] Youri Ashton: yeah
[11:14] Youri Ashton: I speak to pathfinder pretty often hough
[11:15] Enkidu Linden: i'm afraid i don't know anything at all about qarl's situation but i've heard nothing but good things about him
[11:15] Morgaine Dinova: http://www.qarl.com/qLab/?p=64
[11:15] Youri Ashton: got 2 avi's of him in my friendslist
[11:15] Morgaine Dinova: Enki: on the positive side (and slightly related to web), HTTP Textures work great
[11:15] Asterion Coen: about Lindens departure. are ther account just suspended, or the database r erased too ?
[11:16] ATechwolf Foxclaw: I've been working on getting a local squid cache set up on my system here. I am almost there.
[11:16] Youri Ashton: most are aster
[11:16] Youri Ashton: only one i seen so far still being on with his old avi is path
[11:16] Areal Loonie: yes.. textures seem better.. cept.. baked ones still sometimes slow
[11:16] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Just think, 10GB caches.
[11:16] Youri Ashton: only last name changed
[11:16] Enkidu Linden: oh that's wonderful to hear, morgaine
[11:16] Asterion Coen: i got some friend as ex linden with new av, and told me they dont know if they can ask a conversion to a regular accoubnt
[11:16] ATechwolf Foxclaw: http texturees do NOT work for bakes. The sim don't do that yet.
[11:17] Youri Ashton: i have no problem talking to pathfinder, and it seems Blue also contacted me
[11:17] Asterion Coen: yes, the only one i know with a conversion is pathfinder too
[11:17] Areal Loonie: aah.. no wonder
[11:17] Youri Ashton: and no, i wont give any names
[11:17] Asterion Coen: wanted to know about scott linden account
[11:17] Opensource Obscure: right now (in HTTP mode) where are textures fetched from? not Amazon, is this correct?
[11:17] Youri Ashton: scott's acc is deleted
[11:17] Asterion Coen: he lost all his stuff with his account
[11:17] Youri Ashton: so far i could find out
[11:17] ATechwolf Foxclaw: The http texture are fetched from the sim (for now)
[11:17] Youri Ashton: his inworld stuff still is there, except his office
[11:17] Opensource Obscure: for now?
[11:18] Enkidu Linden: i'm not actually sure where the textures come from but i know we're putting more and more on s3 lately
[11:18] Asterion Coen: i still see his item under his linden name, so... i supose the items r somewhere into some databases
[11:18] ATechwolf Foxclaw: The wiki for http textrues was updated with that info.
[11:18] Opensource Obscure: ah thanks tech!
[11:18] Opensource Obscure: missed that
[11:18] Enkidu Linden: i suppose 1.40.4 released is in the good news category
[11:18] Youri Ashton: so far i know most textures will be deposited in the main LL database for possible future use
[11:18] Youri Ashton: would be most likely
[11:18] Morgaine Dinova: Yeah, bakes are not working with HTTP yet. Also, various lesser types of textures are not working with HTTP yet either, like pictures, unless you've got a viewer with Robin's latest patches.
[11:18] Youri Ashton: its not smart to delete such content
[11:19] Morgaine Dinova: It's definitely not smart to delete content. I hope that's not happening.
[11:19] Enkidu Linden: has there been a noticable performance improvement with http textures?
[11:19] Opensource Obscure: Enkidu, may you ask around about .. how many SL regions have http textures enabled right now?
[11:20] Opensource Obscure: is the deployment complete?
[11:20] Enkidu Linden: i think everything is on 1.40.4 now
[11:20] Youri Ashton: i have a feeling it is possible to remove accounts from the grid without actually deleting them, something like making them invisible
[11:20] Opensource Obscure: but http deployment was said not to require server upgrade
[11:21] Enkidu Linden: oh really?
[11:21] Enkidu Linden: let me check the announcement
[11:21] Areal Loonie: any ideas why .. when i log onto SL website i cant access blogs or forums?
[11:21] Morgaine Dinova: Enkidu: slight problem with answering your question, in that there is no instrumentation, so we're not able to give figures. But just eyeballing it, its ranges from "just as fast" to "massively faster". We need instrumentation and measurements though, not guesswork.
[11:21] Opensource Obscure: yeah. just a change in a xml config file.
[11:22] Enkidu Linden: oh shoot
[11:22] Youri Ashton: some blog and forum posts are only for specific groups and or residents, so not completely public
[11:22] Robin Cornelius: i did have code that would do viewer stats and measure texture load time, i should dig that up again
[11:22] Enkidu Linden: sorry, you're right, opensource
[11:22] Morgaine Dinova: Oooooh! Robin++
[11:22] Opensource Obscure: anyway I guess the whole grid i using http textures now. it was at 80% yesterday
[11:22] Opensource Obscure: *is
[11:23] Robin Cornelius: it just dumped what ever starts you wanted to a std::list, then later to a file, and texture load time can be judged by how long the texture queue takes to hit 0
[11:23] Areal Loonie: um..i am talking about general ones.. that i have always been able to see... it gets to the processing ID page and just loops.. reloading it over and over
[11:23] Morgaine Dinova: Well this zone here is always laggy as hell. Today it seemed to snap into shape. Emphasis on "seemed".
[11:23] Morgaine Dinova: And yes, it's using HTTP
[11:24] Areal Loonie: ive tried it on two machines..with two accounts.. same thing
[11:25] Asterion Coen: it's laggying to into bourbon estate
[11:25] Enkidu Linden: i'm checking for you now, areal
[11:25] Areal Loonie: i cant even read the featured blog posts
[11:25] Enkidu Linden: i assume you have cookies enabled
[11:26] Enkidu Linden: if so, can you file a pjira and give me the ID?
[11:26] Areal Loonie: yes... and.. what is very strange is.. a third account.. works fine
[11:26] Youri Ashton: bourbon estate isnt really good atm, so its not him
[11:26] Youri Ashton: the staff there keeps messing with the sims
[11:26] Asterion Coen: messing ?
[11:27] Youri Ashton: yeah, keep changing them and allowing griefers to run around
[11:27] Youri Ashton: besides that, they kicking people out of the groups as well, as they did with me
[11:27] Asterion Coen: we keep continue to close sims every time we see one of them coming arround
[11:27] Enkidu Linden: morgaine, i agree that we need instrumentation in the viewer. but i think we've talked about that before
[11:27] Asterion Coen: we set all the securities, but nothing change
[11:27] Enkidu Linden: numbers, please! and lot's of them!
[11:28] Opensource Obscure: in general, should "Images time" (under Statistics Bar) be lower now with HTTP textures?
[11:28] Enkidu Linden: er, lots
[11:28] Youri Ashton: brb
[11:28] Morgaine Dinova: Enki: yep. What you don't measure you don't really know, you're just guessing, which isn't professional.
[11:29] Morgaine Dinova: (Applies to everyone, to open source devs just as much)
[11:29] Youri Ashton: bk
[11:30] Robin CorneliusRobin Cornelius boots the linux box with the profiling code
[11:30] Enkidu Linden: not sure, opensource
[11:31] Youri Ashton: seems Yoz is also online. going to him in a few
[11:32] Youri Ashton: if i disapear, you know where i am :p
[11:32] ATechwolf Foxclaw: I'me in three places at once.
[11:32] Youri Ashton: you usually are tech :p
[11:33] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Jack Linden Office Hour, Enkidu Linden Office Hour, Yoz Linden Office Hour. Wheeee.....
[11:33] Youri Ashton: asked him to forceport me when he is there
[11:33] Enkidu Linden: office hour collision
[11:33] Youri Ashton: lol, yup
[11:34] Youri Ashton: think i should get that temple finished for you enk
[11:34] Asterion Coen: atech say hi to yoz for me please :)
[11:34] Youri Ashton: then you can have your own place soon
[11:34] Opensource Obscure: yoz's meeting starts at 12pm right?
[11:34] ATechwolf Foxclaw: Yoz currently MIA.
[11:34] Youri Ashton: should start now
[11:35] Youri Ashton: kinda dont like so many good OH's being at the same time
[11:35] Youri Ashton: lol
[11:35] Opensource Obscure: mm. his wiki page says 11.30 but general office hours page says Thursdays from 12pm
[11:35] Youri Ashton: oh he changed it?
[11:35] Opensource Obscure: i think yes, recently
[11:35] Youri Ashton: was starting 11:30 before
[11:36] Youri Ashton: oh in that case... no worries :p
[11:36] Opensource Obscure: Jon and Oz meetings clash as well
[11:36] Youri Ashton: oh, he's typing
[11:36] Enkidu Linden: oh, cool
[11:36] Opensource ObscureOpensource Obscure is typing...
[11:36] Enkidu Linden: yoz and i talked about our OH clash and he said he'd probably adjust his
[11:38] Enkidu Linden: i'm trying to find someone who knows the answer to your question, opensource
[11:38] Opensource Obscure: thanks
[11:38] Youri Ashton: I'll put the sign up
[11:37] Yoz Linden: also, OH is cancelled for today
[11:39] Youri Ashton: okay, no Yoz Linden OH then
[11:39] Opensource Obscure: thanks youri
[11:40] Youri Ashton: np open
[11:40] Opensource Obscure: i'll update his wiki page
[11:40] Youri Ashton: already sended a twitter mssg about it
[11:41] Youri Ashton: so enk, had some ideas what might be missing from the temple I showed? any suggestions?
[11:41] Youri Ashton: wishes?
[11:41] Enkidu Linden: oh gosh
[11:41] Youri Ashton: hi lidiva :)
[11:41] Lidiva Shim: someone come follow me
[11:41] Youri Ashton: whats wrong lidiva?
[11:42] Lidiva Shim: nothing
[11:42] Lidiva Shim: plz come
[11:42] Opensource Obscure: just a non-noob on an alternate account to have fun with
[11:42] Youri Ashton: lol
[11:42] Youri Ashton: in 15 mins this OH stops
[11:42] Lidiva Shim: Someone plz follow me
[11:43] Lidiva Shim: forget it
[11:43] Opensource Obscure: wait 15 mins then we ALL follow you. and push you into the water.
[11:43] Opensource Obscure: hey wait
[11:43] Youri Ashton: lol
[11:43] Opensource Obscure: umph.
[11:43] Youri Ashton: so enk, had a thought? :p
[11:43] Youri Ashton: there is already a bridge in the new addon pack
[11:44] Youri Ashton: well.. 2 actually
[11:44] Youri Ashton: hi harman
[11:44] Harman Oddson: Hi
[11:44] Asterion Coen: hi
[11:45] Youri Ashton: think enk fell off his chair thinking about it, either that or he's getting some coffee :p
[11:45] Enkidu Linden: hello
[11:45] Youri Ashton: oh there you are :p
[11:45] Asterion Coen: or thinking while drinking a coffe :)
[11:46] Youri Ashton: lol
[11:46] Enkidu Linden: someone was distracting me
[11:46] Youri Ashton: lol
[11:47] Asterion Coen: laracroft visiting LL office :)
[11:47] Youri Ashton: lmao
[11:47] Enkidu Linden: i'm not sure i'd add anything to it. i like your theme a lot
[11:47] Enkidu Linden: if you wanted to make it more greek, you could add a giant statue of a god or goddess
[11:47] Youri Ashton: lol, well, i'm always open for suggestions or reguests
[11:48] Enkidu Linden: but i don't think it needs to be more greek
[11:48] Youri Ashton: im not really a sculpture maker :(
[11:48] Youri Ashton: I can ask around if something can though
[11:48] Asterion Coen: add an over texte: "here is a god statue" :)
[11:48] Youri Ashton: lmao
[11:48] Enkidu Linden: "do not make eye contact with this sentence."
[11:49] Youri Ashton: think that wont really fit in the theme, since it is all highly detailled
[11:49] Asterion Coen: :)
[11:49] Asterion Coen: rezz a sign then: statue builders on vacation :)
[11:50] Youri Ashton: - Common House 001 <UNFINISHED>

- Common House 002 <UNFINISHED>

[11:50] Youri Ashton: the list of what im working on for the new addon kit
[11:50] Enkidu Linden: you're going to end up with a city
[11:51] Asterion Coen: great! then the ceazar legion will come :)
[11:51] Youri Ashton: well, its almost needing a full sim anyways, so why not adding in a few extra things, so the buyer can decide what to add and what not
[11:46] Youri Ashton: lol
[11:46] Enkidu Linden: someone was distracting me
[11:46] Youri Ashton: lol
[11:47] Asterion Coen: laracroft visiting LL office :)
[11:47] Youri Ashton: lmao
[11:47] Enkidu Linden: i'm not sure i'd add anything to it. i like your theme a lot
[11:47] Enkidu Linden: if you wanted to make it more greek, you could add a giant statue of a god or goddess
[11:47] Youri Ashton: lol, well, i'm always open for suggestions or reguests
[11:48] Enkidu Linden: but i don't think it needs to be more greek
[11:48] Youri Ashton: im not really a sculpture maker :(
[11:48] Youri Ashton: I can ask around if something can though
[11:48] Asterion Coen: add an over texte: "here is a god statue" :)
[11:48] Youri Ashton: lmao
[11:48] Enkidu Linden: "do not make eye contact with this sentence."
[11:49] Youri Ashton: think that wont really fit in the theme, since it is all highly detailled
[11:49] Asterion Coen: :)
[11:49] Asterion Coen: rezz a sign then: statue builders on vacation :)
[11:50] Youri Ashton: - Common House 001 <UNFINISHED>

- Common House 002 <UNFINISHED>

[11:50] Youri Ashton: the list of what im working on for the new addon kit
[11:50] Enkidu Linden: you're going to end up with a city
[11:51] Asterion Coen: great! then the ceazar legion will come :)
[11:51] Youri Ashton: well, its almost needing a full sim anyways, so why not adding in a few extra things, so the buyer can decide what to add and what not
[12:03] Youri Ashton: but no hard proof yet
[12:03] Enkidu Linden: wow
[12:03] Youri Ashton: wb enk
[12:03] Youri Ashton: lol
[12:03] Morgaine Dinova: Wb Enki
[12:03] Areal Loonie: maybe i should get a rat AV..
[12:03] Youri Ashton: crash?
[12:03] Enkidu Linden: i think one of the inventory servers went down
[12:03] Asterion Coen: the all is to know how many linden will be still on here next year
[12:04] Asterion Coen: wb enki
[12:04] Youri Ashton: yeah indeed aster
[12:04] Enkidu Linden: well, i don't mind sticking around a few extra minutes today
[12:04] Youri Ashton: with kate as well gone, and a possible departure of torley...
[12:04] couch sit 1: llStopAnimation: Script trying to stop animations but agent not found
[12:04] Asterion Coen: what about molly ?
[12:04] Youri Ashton: we were still talking about lindens that were going away
[12:05] Areal Loonie: is there a cap on number of inventory items in SL?
[12:05] Youri Ashton: molly, think she is still there
[12:05] Enkidu Linden: oh :(
[12:05] Youri Ashton: Mia is gone though
[12:05] Asterion Coen: yes, personaly, i dont understand why they fired her
[12:05] Youri Ashton: yeah, neither do i
[12:05] Youri Ashton: she did so much good for the lab
[12:05] Asterion Coen: not only for the lab
[12:06] Asterion Coen: for the communauties too
[12:06] Youri Ashton: one of the few that actually did a lot with the residents
[12:06] Youri Ashton: true
[12:06] Asterion Coen: that's the kind of popular folks a company would evite to fire
[12:06] Youri Ashton: i fear Philip is kicking out the wrong people, but I do not know his intentions or plan though
[12:06] Youri Ashton: he may havea higher reason for it
[12:07] Asterion Coen: let's hope there is a reason
[12:07] Youri Ashton: yeah
[12:07] Youri Ashton: its getting pretty grim without all those vermilliar lindens
[12:07] Youri Ashton: looks like a bloody battlefield
[12:08] Youri Ashton: masacre of the lindens
[12:08] Asterion Coen: most of the linden who left, was member of some project managments
[12:08] Enkidu Linden: my cat is snoring again
[12:08] Youri Ashton: lol, pets enk's cat
[12:08] Asterion Coen: scott about the us gov, pathfinder abiout gov and education, the one about the UTSA, lot left in the middle of big projects
[12:09] Asterion Coen: witch is suspicious, and not realy optimist
[12:09] Youri Ashton: i dont mind the US gouvernment loosing its grip on SL, I miss having scott around
[12:09] Asterion Coen: scott still arround
[12:09] Youri Ashton: as some of you know, im not rlly 'liking' the US gouvernment
[12:09] Youri Ashton: lol
[12:09] Asterion Coen: he kept his office at the coalition island
[12:10] Youri Ashton: oh ok, but i wonder why his name doesnt show on search
[12:10] Asterion Coen: and im sure he will be involved into gov stuffs. with LL or not
[12:10] Asterion Coen: the account got suspended ordesactivated
[12:11] Asterion Coen: the all is to find a linden in charge of the account for a conversion
[12:11] Youri Ashton: could be
[12:11] Youri Ashton: just like gov linden
[12:11] Youri Ashton: shared account
[12:11] Youri Ashton: if im not wrong, about 4 or 5 lindens using that
[12:11] Enkidu Linden: still can't find whomever might answeryour question, opensource
[12:11] Youri Ashton: hi mud
[12:12] mudbug Cooperstone: hello
[12:12] Asterion Coen: enki, have you tryed google ? :)
[12:12] Youri Ashton: what was your question then open?
[12:12] Enkidu Linden: haha sometimes i wish we could google search each other's brains
[12:12] Youri Ashton: lmao
[12:12] Youri Ashton: what was the question?
[12:13] mudbug Cooperstone whispers: mine would say error
[12:13] Youri Ashton: lol
[12:13] Youri Ashton: "error, did not compute"
[12:13] Enkidu Linden: opensource asked about the image time statistic in the viewer
[12:13] Asterion Coen: syntax error :)
[12:13] mudbug Cooperstone: ney just say error not found
[12:14] Youri Ashton: wouldnt that be a question for Merov?
[12:14] Opensource Obscure: no prob
[12:14] Youri Ashton: perhaps soft also can answer it
[12:14] Asterion Coen: enki, the answere is probly in the folder "confidential, do not communicate" :)
[12:14] Youri Ashton: lol
[12:16] Youri Ashton: brb
[12:16] Enkidu Linden: wow i am having the worst time finding people
[12:17] Enkidu Linden: it is lunchtime, though
[12:17] Asterion Coen: oh, the LL folks r not eating on the kboard as every geek ?
[12:18] Youri Ashton: bk
[12:18] mudbug Cooperstone: no they go out and buy them fancy meal and get it super sized
[12:18] Youri Ashton: im pretty mucha geek, and i sure eaat sometimes at my pc :p
[12:18] Asterion Coen: at my time, we used the CDROM drive to handle the coffe cup and the kboard as table for the sandwich :)
[12:19] Enkidu Linden: we tend to go out to eat in little groups mostly depending on who wants to eat what kind of food
[12:19] Youri Ashton: hello Krissy :)
[12:19] Krissy Serin: hi
[12:19] Krissy Serin: bye
[12:19] Enkidu Linden: some of us eat at our desks but i usually don't
[12:19] Youri Ashton: usually eating alone. lol
[12:20] Asterion Coen: :)
[12:20] Areal Loonie: i'll eat at kb.. but.. no poo socking for me
[12:20] Youri Ashton: i have no RL job, so kinda left to do it alone
[12:20] Asterion Coen: u should ask to install an pneumatic system that bring the food u ask to the computer :)
[12:20] Youri Ashton: lol
[12:21] Youri Ashton: living alone doesnt mean im lazy :p
[12:22] Enkidu Linden: ok guys, i'd better head out
[12:22] Asterion Coen: bon apetit !
[12:22] Opensource Obscure: thanks Enkidu. take care
[12:22] Enkidu Linden: opensource, sorry i couldn't get back to you on that
[12:22] mudbug Cooperstone: don't sting anyone
[12:22] Youri Ashton: thanks for coming enk! have a great sl day!
[12:22] Opensource Obscure: no prob
[12:22] Opensource Obscure: have a nice day you all .. bye bye
[12:22] Youri Ashton: this jellyfish doesnt sting mud :p
[12:22] Enkidu Linden: thank you all for making secondlife awesome!
[12:22] Enkidu Linden: i will see you next week
[12:22] Asterion Coen: have fun !
[12:22] Youri Ashton: o0o, blue prim in the sky

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