User:Which Linden/Office Hours/2010 March 18

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[11:02] Enkidu Linden: hey y'all
[11:02] Leslie Scribe: Hello
[11:03] Which Linden: what's up, grub!
[11:03] Latif Khalifa: hello all
[11:04] Latif Khalifa: so Which, what's up, how are the last day as a Linden :)
[11:04] Which Linden: Interesting!
[11:04] Latif Khalifa: hehe i bet
[11:04] Morgaine Dinova: Hi Which. :-))) Much sadness :-(
[11:04] Which Linden: Well, it always sucks to be a dead man walking
[11:04] Latif Khalifa: yeah lol
[11:04] Leslie Scribe: You too? Crud.
[11:05] Xugu Madison: Which, you're leaving?!
[11:05] Which Linden: Yeah, tomorrow's my last day
[11:05] Morgaine Dinova: :-((((((
[11:05] Xugu Madison: :(
[11:05] Which Linden: I'm gonna miss you all
[11:05] Enkidu Linden: i've been FFFFFUUUUUU since he told me
[11:05] Xugu Madison: we'll miss you too
[11:06] Dahlia Trimble: hi :)
[11:06] Morgaine Dinova: Well we assume Which XXXX will return as a reincarnation :-)
[11:06] Which Linden: Oh I should see if there's a Which Hax
[11:06] Latif Khalifa: haha
[11:06] Morgaine Dinova: Hehe
[11:06] Dahlia Trimble: lol
[11:06] Dahlia Trimble: I have a Hax avie
[11:06] Eddi Decosta: miew
[11:07] Dahlia Trimble: not saying who tho ;)
[11:07] Latif Khalifa: use the grid powers while you still have them xD
[11:07] Leslie Scribe: Which Pinden might be a bad idea.
[11:07] Morgaine Dinova: While you still have god powers, get yourself a Which When :-)
[11:07] Which Linden: whoa our registration is way better than it used to be
[11:07] Eddi Decosta: yike an incect ^^
[11:08] Eddi Decosta: hi all, sorry my late
[11:08] Which Linden: Dahlia, you're New Hax, just admit it :P
[11:08] Morgaine Dinova: Hahahaha
[11:08] Dahlia Trimble: lmao
[11:08] Morgaine Dinova: Dahlia reckoned that must have been a 13-year old.
[11:09] Dahlia Trimble: no my trolling skillz are nowhere near New Hax's
[11:09] Latif Khalifa: nice bonus bear
[11:09] Dahlia Trimble: <3 the bear :)
[11:10] Xugu Madison: Keep us up to date on where you end up, Which, right?
[11:10] Morgaine Dinova: Please!
[11:10] Which Linden: Samara Collas made the script in hte bear, in case you can't tell
[11:10] Enkidu Linden: Which, you'd better bequeath all your sweet inventory
[11:10] Enkidu Linden: TO ME
[11:10] Latif Khalifa: lool
[11:10] Which Linden: Sure I'll keep you guys up to date, I have like tiwtter and stuff
[11:10] Xugu Madison: sighs "What will I do between 11 and 12 on a Thursday now!?!"
[11:10] Which Linden: Dude my inventory is so bare
[11:10] Which Linden: (no pun intended)
[11:10] Morgaine Dinova: WHICH: CAN I HAVE UR SWORD?
[11:10] Latif Khalifa: which is which's twitter
[11:11] Which Linden: I have screenshots of people upside down on sphere
[11:11] Which Linden: and objects that reproduce bugs
[11:11] Enkidu Linden: that's ballsy
[11:11] Dahlia Trimble: do you get to keep your Which Linden inventory?
[11:11] Morgaine Dinova: Oh, good question.
[11:12] Latif Khalifa: so Enkidu, are you taking over the office too? :P
[11:12] Jonathan Yap: Is Which leaving LL?
[11:12] Which Linden: Yes
[11:12] Morgaine Dinova: :-(
[11:12] Xugu Madison: nods to Jonathan :(
[11:12] Jonathan Yap: awwww
[11:12] Enkidu Linden: i would but i work in a different office
[11:12] Which Linden: I guess I'll just transfer my inventory to an alt
[11:12] Which Linden: One alt name that I'm proud of is OMG Loll
[11:12] Enkidu Linden: i would sit at his desk and sing the which linden am i song
[11:12] Morgaine Dinova: Which: can you leave your bamboo grove behind? It's a bit of a landmark.
[11:12] Xugu Madison: Enkidu, I think Latif meant the OH. If he didn't, I certainly want to know if you'll be taking over the hour!
[11:13] Which Linden: Sure, morgaine, can't say when someone's going to claim it though
[11:13] Eddi Decosta: Wich; you leave ll too?
[11:13] Latif Khalifa: Which, trasfer the land to Enkidu :P
[11:13] Enkidu Linden: oh office hours!
[11:13] Morgaine Dinova: Would be nice if all ex-Linden offices were left around. Build up a history of nice places.
[11:13] Enkidu Linden: maybe i should!
[11:14] Xugu Madison: 'tis a plan, oh yes....
[11:14] Which Linden: That's right! Insert Rocky training montage!
[11:14] Jonathan Yap: I am a bit late, was what to do with you wiki OH logs talked about?
[11:14] Enkidu Linden: then i could showcase how little i know in regularly scheduled intervals
[11:14] Latif Khalifa: hahaha
[11:14] Which Linden: Jonathan: I presume they'll just stay up on the wiki
[11:15] Morgaine Dinova: What's the LL policy on wiki pages of ex-Lindens? They are very useful resources. The account gets zapped, but the wiki pages don't, right?
[11:16] Dahlia Trimble: oops I almost squished Enkido :(
[11:16] Which Linden: Yeah.
[11:16] Dahlia Trimble: sorry Enkido :(
[11:16] Which Linden: I mean the pages aren't even protected
[11:16] Which Linden: Just disables my ability to log in
[11:17] Morgaine Dinova: Does somebody add a "No longer at Linden Lab" banner?
[11:17] Enkidu Linden: are you guys really interested in hearing from me weekly?
[11:18] Which Linden: I could still edit as PunchYouInTheFace Unplugged
[11:18] Morgaine Dinova: Of course, Enki! (Even if it's just social :P)
[11:18] Which Linden: which is an awesome band name
[11:18] Xugu Madison: Enkidu, yes!
[11:18] Flimsey Freenote: you will be missed Which, ive learned alot at your OH's
[11:18] Xugu Madison: Otherwise I'd have to do something constructive with this time!
[11:18] Latif Khalifa: lol
[11:18] Morgaine Dinova: Yeah, working sucks :P
[11:18] Which Linden: If anythign, you'd be less useless than me, cause you occasionally work on something customer-facing
[11:19] Which Linden: Thanks Flimsey. Interestingly, I've learned a lot myself from doing these!
[11:19] Morgaine Dinova: I loved your non-customer facing things though Which, like all the discussions about CHTTP and key escrow.
[11:19] Enkidu Linden: yeah
[11:20] Which Linden: Yeah that was fun
[11:20] Xugu Madison: nods to Morgaine "Some of us like the techy side of virtual worlds and how they work."
[11:20] Enkidu Linden: well, i'm cool with holding OH if you guys are cool with me saying "i don't know" every few minutes
[11:20] Enkidu Linden: i might spice it up with a "no idea" or i'm clueless" if that helps
[11:20] Xugu Madison: Wait... is that a Rodney Linden in the background?
[11:20] Flimsey Freenote: accepted your inventory offer.
[11:20] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Crap! I almost missed it!
[11:20] Latif Khalifa: variety is good :)
[11:20] Flimsey Freenote: ty Which
[11:20] Xugu Madison: hey Ceawlin!
[11:21] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Hi y'all!
[11:21] Latif Khalifa: hey Ceawlin
[11:21] Morgaine Dinova: Haha, "I don't know" is perfect. The bad stuff is "I'm not allowed to say". Nobody in Groupies likes secrecy.
[11:21] Which Linden: ha ha, hey rodney
[11:21] Dahlia Trimble: hiya C :)
[11:21] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Is it an actualy OO or a Which Send-Off Party? :3
[11:21] Leslie Scribe: Oh no. Is Rodney standing behind me again? His bears explode.
[11:21] Xugu Madison: hi Rodney. Had wondered if you had just mis-teleported or were actually heading this way....
[11:21] Latif Khalifa: more like a send off party :)
[11:21] Rodney Linden: :)
[11:22] Morgaine Dinova: Enki: the moral there is, when you're not allowed to say, just reply "I don't know" :-))
[11:22] Dahlia Trimble: oooo I see Rodney and I dont have a Rodney bear yet *hint hint*
[11:22] Ceawlin Steamweaver: offers a toast to Which. :3
[11:22] Which Linden: We can talk about technical stuff, but I've mostly cut down my responsibilities so that all I have to work on is EVentlet
[11:22] Enkidu Linden: sadly, in most cases i actually don't know
[11:22] Latif Khalifa: rodney's bear radioactive i hear ;)
[11:22] Which Linden: Oh and I fixed the bug where occasionally L$ balances in the viewer would be wrong
[11:22] Jonathan Yap: I would also like to see that bear :)
[11:23] Morgaine Dinova: seconds the toast to Which. May you have a wonderful future Which, and not forget old friends in Virtual Worlds :-)
[11:23] Latif Khalifa: Which, nice :)
[11:23] Dahlia Trimble: then it can shed some green light on the other bears :)
[11:23] Which Linden: That was a good one to get off my plate before departing
[11:23] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Where are ya going from here, Which? :P
[11:23] Flimsey Freenote: toasts Which, wishes you all the best
[11:24] Which Linden: You know, I used to be pretty nervous about going to these OH
[11:24] Which Linden: You are a scary lot
[11:24] Ceawlin Steamweaver: We can flame you so it will feel like old times, if you want. ;3
[11:24] Xugu Madison: I'm going to have to run, alas. Take care of yourself Which, and good luck for the future!
[11:24] Ceawlin Steamweaver: DAMMIT WHICH!!
[11:24] Flimsey Freenote: lol Which
[11:25] Which Linden: Thanks Xugu, take it easy
[11:25] Xugu Madison: also, can I have a bear? :)
[11:25] Which Linden: I think I was scared though because I always gotta be on my toes here
[11:25] Latif Khalifa: why? lol
[11:25] Morgaine Dinova: We don't aim to be scary. Me, I just want VWs to take off, and good tech to be used.
[11:25] Which Linden: Yeah I know :)
[11:26] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Damn Morg, I'd hate to see you -try- to be scary. ;3
[11:26] Which Linden: That's what I learned!
[11:26] Which Linden: burn!
[11:26] Ceawlin Steamweaver: !stand Morgaine
[11:26] Dahlia Trimble: notes that Rodney is avoiding bear requests....
[11:26] Morgaine Dinova: Ceaw: it's not in me, it requires the ability to manipulate to be really scary. No diplomacy here :-)
[11:27] Xugu Madison: accepted your inventory offer.
[11:27] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Lawl
[11:27] Jonathan Yap: Thank you Rodney for the bear :)
[11:27] Xugu Madison: thank you both Lindens!
[11:27] Xugu Madison: Sorry, people I had to go prepare for are arriving already. Take care all!
[11:27] Morgaine Dinova: Cyu Xugu :-)
[11:27] Enkidu Linden: see you, xugu
[11:27] Ceawlin Steamweaver: So where will we go aside from Babbage for techo-geeky OO nao? :< I didn't find out about the gem of Which OO until too late. :P
[11:28] Flimsey Freenote: off the record, can someone please hack youtube so my media will work... thanks
[11:28] Eddi Decosta: accepted your inventory offer.
[11:28] Which Linden: I dunno, I think all Lindens should do OH
[11:28] Morgaine Dinova: Flimsey: I'll get Latif right on it :P
[11:28] Jonathan Yap: Flimsey, what exactly is the trouble?
[11:28] Which Linden: Maybe just half an hour at first
[11:28] Rodney Linden: I've considered starting mine back up
[11:28] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Yea! We could totally troll M's. :3
[11:28] Latif Khalifa: xD
[11:28] Flimsey Freenote: they changed the security thing again
[11:28] Rodney Linden: i have a giant tower in this region
[11:28] Which Linden: That's a lot less commitment, and it lessens the expectations
[11:29] Rodney Linden: oh.. right, it's next to us.. heh
[11:29] Enkidu Linden: i have yet to wander past this bamboo grove
[11:29] Which Linden: As a Linden, you get to be a little wary because a lot of pressure is put on you to fix what's wrong with SL, but you also know that anything you say will be used against you
[11:29] Morgaine Dinova: I'd like LL Legal to do OHs
[11:29] Which Linden: That would be amazing
[11:30] Which Linden: The legal people here are actually hilarious
[11:30] Rodney Linden: an entirely redacted meeting?
[11:30] Morgaine Dinova: HAHAHA
[11:30] Morgaine Dinova: Rodney - -
[11:30] Morgaine Dinova: And Rodnet++ for comedy :-)
[11:30] Dahlia Trimble: ya some of their comedy gets published too (TVP)
[11:30] Latif Khalifa: LOL
[11:30] Which Linden: But, I mean, realisitically how could the first N of those legal OH not end up being a browbeating session>?
[11:31] Which Linden: And/or people looking to jump the queue for stufff
[11:31] Eddi Decosta: well, new play game for now crush Enkidu :p
[11:31] Eddi Decosta: LOL
[11:31] Rodney Linden: Enkidu Crush
[11:31] Dahlia Trimble: smells burnt toast...
[11:31] Which Linden: To some degree my OH are made a lot easier because of the fact that I don't have anything customer-facing to say most of the time
[11:31] Ceawlin Steamweaver: We can toast him. :3
[11:31] Morgaine Dinova: Which: if a lawyer tried to claim X and we dispute that X exists in law, then we would quite validly ask for the legal theory that backs it. It's not browbeating.
[11:32] Which Linden: I guess if we screwed the pooch w.r.t L$ then it could have been different
[11:32] Latif Khalifa: was always baffled why tech lindens were afraid to talk to resi's
[11:32] Which Linden: Hah, that's true, but not-browbeating I think is a property that evolves over time
[11:32] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Cos we flame so much!!!
[11:32] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Look at opensource-dev./.. Lol.
[11:32] Which Linden: Heh right
[11:32] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I'd hide under a stump and quiver if I were me. :3
[11:33] Latif Khalifa: well that list is one big flamebait
[11:33] Latif Khalifa: but OH are nicer :)
[11:33] Morgaine Dinova: Oh, a community free-for-all isn't browbeating either, that's totally normal. Herd of cats :P
[11:33] Which Linden: Yeah but it's hard to not feel responsible
[11:34] Morgaine Dinova: Aye, agreed.
[11:34] Which Linden: Though I guess if anyone can make themselves feel not-responsible it's a lawyer
[11:34] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Meow. :3
[11:34] Morgaine Dinova: HAHAHA
[11:34] Which Linden: Try the veal ;)
[11:35] Morgaine Dinova: So, any hints on what your future work might be? Or taking a vacation first?
[11:36] Ceawlin Steamweaver: You should start a company that develops MMOs for mobile phones and then hire me. :3 Lol.
[11:36] Latif Khalifa: lol
[11:36] Enkidu Linden: he's going to sell stuff door to door
[11:36] Enkidu Linden: [1]
[11:36] Which Linden: My intention is to learn how to make inherently interesting games
[11:36] Latif Khalifa: vacum cleaners?
[11:36] Flimsey Freenote: lol
[11:37] Ceawlin Steamweaver: What kind of games? :3
[11:37] Enkidu Linden: i just found out desktop tower defense went multiplayer
[11:37] Dahlia Trimble: is interested in behavioral aspects of games
[11:37] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I have a keen interest in such things and would like to follow any blahgs that you might happen to publish on the subject. :3
[11:38] Morgaine Dinova: Which: wanna implement a scalable virtual world using Erlang for massive concurrency? VWRAP-compatible of course :-)
[11:38] Morgaine Dinova: Dahlia++
[11:38] Which Linden: Argh I hate typing when the focus is in the wrong field
[11:38] Morgaine Dinova: Game AI is very interesting
[11:38] Which Linden: Yeah I'm also interested in the behavioral aspects of games, especially flow
[11:39] Dahlia Trimble: not ai, player psychology
[11:39] Morgaine Dinova: Dahlia: oh, you mean PI (Pathological Intelligence)
[11:39] Which Linden: The current trend of using external rewards (points, etc) to get the player to do boring tasks isn't quite what I want but it's certainly a skill to learn
[11:39] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I am interested in player sociology. Like giving the players a shared game-world and letting them do what they want with it to an extent, and seeing what happens, lol.
[11:40] Dahlia Trimble: no I mean stuff like reinforcement schedules
[11:42] Ceawlin Steamweaver: has a quest to resurrect some old mainframe multiplayer games as webapps, too. :3 Lol.
[11:42] Which Linden: It's hard to extricate external rewards from reinforcement schedules....in fact aren't they the same thing?
[11:42] Morgaine Dinova: Which: you might be interested in what the "reward" is in Guild Wars, which is notionally an EverQuest or WoW-type MMO. In theory the reward is the usual one, overcoming odd, killing foes, and completing quests and missions. But that's a decoy. The actual reward for those who really understand the game is programming the game AI for your "hero" sidekicks, and interacting with those AIs. Quite orthogonal to the game :-)
[11:43] Dahlia Trimble: that's your reward Morgaine ;)
[11:43] Which Linden: Hah cool
[11:43] Ceawlin Steamweaver: But you have to have that one expansion that I don't have for that, right? :3
[11:43] Which Linden: Well games have two types of things you can do: inherently interesting, and rewarded
[11:43] Morgaine Dinova: Dahlia: yes. Doesn't apply to everyone
[11:44] Which Linden: Programming AIs seems like an inherently interesting thing, and is pretty much the most intereting thing I've heard about GW ever
[11:44] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I had to quit playing all the games except for ones that I am writing myself or contributing content to. Was wasting too much time before that. :3 Lol.
[11:44] Dahlia Trimble: I enjoy programming too, and consider it rewarding to some extent
[11:44] Which Linden: The thing about inherently interesting activities is that there is no explicit reward for doing them
[11:44] Morgaine Dinova: Ceawlin: hehe. Cheap though. And no monthly subscription of course.
[11:45] Flimsey Freenote: waves bye to Which, wanders back to work
[11:45] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Yea, I do on occasion fire up some GW or DDO for an hour or two, rationalizing it as "research". :3
[11:45] Morgaine Dinova: Cyu Flim :-)
[11:45] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Bai Flimsey!
[11:45] Dahlia Trimble: sure, programming is more likely not a direct reward, rather one what was conditioned
[11:45] Eddi Decosta: hmmmm, coffeee :0
[11:45] Eddi Decosta:
[11:46] Which Linden: I'm not sure it can be boiled down to skinner so directly, Dahlia, but maybe I'm wrong about that
[11:46] Dahlia Trimble: Skinner? he was really just a beginning
[11:47] Enkidu Linden: what were your examples of inherently interesting games again?
[11:47] Morgaine Dinova: I think SL and Opensim will end up supporting game worlds anyway. Certainly in principle VWRAP will support anything on the endpoints of the protocol.
[11:47] Which Linden: But yes I have been surprised with how much people in general (myself included) like doing "boring" things
[11:47] Which Linden: Morgaine: yeah that's my hope
[11:47] Dahlia Trimble: boring?
[11:48] Enkidu Linden: we do boring things to attain goals, don't we?
[11:48] Ceawlin Steamweaver: In my multiplayer gaming, the actual game was "boring" for sure, but it was the social interaction with people that made it fun.
[11:48] Enkidu Linden: outside of games
[11:48] Which Linden: Enkidu: sometimes it feels good to do something boring just for the microgoals
[11:48] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I think that if you have a vibrant community, even endless games of tic tac toe will be interesting. :3
[11:48] Which Linden: Like, "I just reformatted that line of text, yay"
[11:49] Enkidu Linden: haha
[11:49] Which Linden: Ceawlin yes agreed but in part that's cause the community is itself a game
[11:49] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I think that's what makes things like KoL and Dwarf Fortress interesting. :3
[11:49] Dahlia Trimble: SL™ seems boring after I've been here for a while, at least the content part, but I am still here
[11:49] Which Linden: C.f. dplomacy
[11:49] Morgaine Dinova: Well look at EverQuest, it was a life of extreme drudgery, purposely made hard and hostile by Sony. Why did people play? Not because they enjoyed suffering (mostly), but because of the interaction with people and with AIs.
[11:49] Ceawlin Steamweaver: DF is pretty cool on its own, but KoL??? Lol.
[11:49] Enkidu Linden: i just imagined a farmville-esque Gutenberg Librarian
[11:50] Which Linden: Click to Shelve Books
[11:50] Which Linden: ha ha ha actually that's a brilliant idea
[11:50] Enkidu Linden: endless recaptchas
[11:51] Morgaine Dinova: Dahlia: that's the main reason for low beginner retention rate, the boredom of nothing obvious to do. It's had nothing to do with unwieldy viewer.
[11:51] Dahlia Trimble: there was lots to do when I first started
[11:51] Which Linden: Speaking of that, did anyone visit that survey url I posted up here a few weeks ago?
[11:51] Enkidu Linden: pgdp.net always seemed kind of game-like to me
[11:51] Dahlia Trimble: there's probably still a lot I havent seen
[11:52] Leslie Scribe: idlely wonders if her clothes showed up today.
[11:52] Morgaine Dinova: hands Leslie a garter that appeared out of nowhere
[11:52] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I am rewriting a mainframe game that I used to love in the 80s and adding some crappy graphics and gonna see if people dig it. It is kind of an inherently fun game in a droolsome way, but I am hoping that people will dig it. :3 Ever heard of Avatar/DND? [2] and [3] :3
[11:53] Morgaine Dinova: Thanks Ceawlin :-)
[11:54] Morgaine Dinova: tap tap
[11:54] Morgaine Dinova: Is this thing on?
[11:54] Ceawlin Steamweaver: plays a trumpet. :3
[11:54] Enkidu Linden: this looks cool
[11:55] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I wish I could shoot my toast up into the air at people. ;3
[11:55] Which Linden: Yeah nice work there
[11:55] Dahlia Trimble: Ceawlin, cool :)
[11:55] Leslie Scribe: I guess I missed the survey.
[11:55] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Me? Thankies. :3
[11:55] Which Linden: I love how your top screenshots shows two viewer instances running
[11:56] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Lol
[11:56] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I have many faces. :3 Or no face at all when I am a toaster. :3
[11:56] Dahlia Trimble: that's a HUD?
[11:56] Ceawlin Steamweaver: The earlier one is, yea.
[11:56] Which Linden: With media on a prim, isn't anything huddable?
[11:56] Ceawlin Steamweaver: The actual game runs out of 4 scripts, but then it takes 43 more to make the graphics change interactively. X_x
[11:57] Dahlia Trimble: lol
[11:57] Dahlia Trimble: yep LSL
[11:57] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Well, the old single-player one anyway.
[11:57] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I ditched the old LSL multiplayer client, and am gonna redo it when 1.38 is out, and use kinda reverse comet from the server to get around the http request throttling. :3
[11:58] Jonathan Yap: Which, if you ever open a shop I would buy some of this bamboo. :)
[11:58] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Until someone catches me doing it and puts a throttle on incoming http. :3
[11:58] Which Linden: Jonathan: no way man, there's way better stuff out there
[11:58] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I wanna be able to just open a persistent TCP socket from LSL. :<
[11:58] Dahlia Trimble: get your bamboo before Enkido nibbles it all ;)
[11:58] Which Linden: The screenshot up there above the red couch is of some better stuff
[11:58] Morgaine Dinova: Looks good to me.
[11:59] Latif Khalifa: lol Dahlia
[11:59] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Are you still gonna hang in SL, Which? :<
[11:59] Which Linden: Ceawlin: well certainly a lot less
[11:59] Morgaine Dinova: I'm waiting for Enki to transform into a butterfly :-)
[11:59] Ceawlin Steamweaver: You should get on AWG with a non-linden AV and yack wif us. :3
[11:59] Dahlia Trimble: yes have your alt friend me please :)
[11:59] Which Linden: If I have time
[11:59] Morgaine Dinova: Yes!
[12:00] Which Linden: I hear the game industry is notoriously time-intensive
[12:00] Ceawlin Steamweaver: :P
[12:00] Dahlia Trimble: it is
[12:00] Dahlia Trimble: forget life
[12:00] Ceawlin Steamweaver: And cutthroat. =:O
[12:00] Eddi Decosta: Which same time for me if you want
[12:00] Which Linden: ah right lonetorus made this (to my eyes) better bamboo
[12:00] Ceawlin Steamweaver: They;re like pirate/viking/ninjas all rolled into one!!
[12:01] Morgaine Dinova: Oh jeez, I hope you don't get into that kind of 90-hour weak thing. The games industry is a sweatshot for devs. They take advantage, and it's no longer fun. :-(
[12:01] Morgaine Dinova: week*
[12:01] Which Linden: No, definitely not that kind of company
[12:01] Which Linden: I know which ones are like that and will avoid
[12:01] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I think the ideal thing is to make license plates for The Man 20 hours per week and spend the rest of your time doing your own thing while living in a hillbilly shack out in the middle of nowhere where the rent is cheap. :3
[12:02] Morgaine Dinova: Haha Ceaw
[12:02] Latif Khalifa: hehe
[12:02] Which Linden: 20 hours? That's a lot
[12:02] Morgaine Dinova: Ceaw: don't forget to mention motorcycling through the hills for stress relief
[12:02] Latif Khalifa: the only problem is that cheap rent usually means crappy internet ;)
[12:02] Ceawlin Steamweaver: That too. :3
[12:03] Ceawlin Steamweaver: It wouldn't start earlier today. I am worried. :3
[12:03] Which Linden: I'll only spend 20 hours being the hired muscle for Dead concerts
[12:03] Morgaine Dinova: Haha Which
[12:03] Ceawlin Steamweaver: But I think I flooded it. :3
[12:03] Which Linden: OK friends, it's about time!
[12:03] Enkidu Linden: hillbilly shack! i love it
[12:03] Ceawlin Steamweaver: D:=
[12:03] Morgaine Dinova: Awww.
[12:04] Dahlia Trimble: has to go, but wishes Which all the best in the hereafter :)
[12:04] Jonathan Yap: Thank you Which, and best of luck in the future
[12:04] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Well, good luck, which! I wish I'd happened upon your office hours earlier!
[12:04] Morgaine Dinova: Take care which. It's been a pleasure to work with you :-)
[12:04] Dahlia Trimble: bye all, tc Which and stay in touch with us :)
[12:04] Enkidu Linden: tell you what, guys. i'll look into office hours of my own and will be back here next thursday to let you know what's up
[12:04] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Keep us filled in on your doings. :3
[12:04] Which Linden: I wish you all, all the best as well
[12:04] Morgaine Dinova: Enki: super :-)
[12:04] Ceawlin Steamweaver: What kinds of stuffs do you work on, Enki?
[12:04] Dahlia Trimble: kewl Enkido, we'll come here and roast you ;)
[12:05] Morgaine Dinova: Thank you Which :-)
[12:05] Which Linden: A finer ragtag bunch could not be found to run a pirate ship
[12:05] Latif Khalifa: Which, take care, and all the best luck in your future endeavours :)
[12:05] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Arrgh!
[12:05] Morgaine Dinova: Avast!
[12:05] Which Linden: Awesome enki!
[12:05] Dahlia Trimble: waves and poofs...
[12:05] Ceawlin Steamweaver: I'll toast yer hardtack, matey!
[12:05] Enkidu Linden: i'm in the web group mainly working on the unseen magic
[12:05] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Ohhh.
[12:05] Ceawlin Steamweaver: The secret sauce, huh? :O
[12:05] Which Linden: Boardin' http servers and stealin html booty, methinks!
[12:05] Ceawlin Steamweaver: Argh!
[12:06] Which Linden: OK laters!

User:Which Linden/Office Hours/2010 March 18

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