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= Hiya =
== Unnecessary Edits ==
I wonder if you're aware that you can preview edits you make to your pages before saving them?
:At the bottom of the edit screen (next to the "Save page" button) there is the "Show preview" button. This allows you to view the way the page ''will'' look so you can review your edit before saving to the Wiki.
:Also, since '''all''' the edits are featured on the history of ''the page'' it can be useful for other editors if a comment about the edit is added in the "Summary" just before saving the page.
:Of course...If you're editing your own pages much of what I just said is a matter of personal preference.
BTW...We can make links to other pages on this Wiki by simply adding '''double''' square type brackets <nowiki>"[[" & "]]"</nowiki> to the title of that page (the display can be different to the page name too).
*E.g. - [[llGetPos]] or [[llGetPos|Use this to get the prim position as a vector]]
When I first started editing this Wiki (actually I still do this) I learned the tricks by reading the source code (open an edit to the page and "cancel" instead of "Saving" when finished reading) of any page that had a trick I wanted to learn used on it. I keep a growing list of various clever stuff for Wiki styling on one of my user pages. That way I don't have to remember it all.
:Happy editing! -- '''[[User:Fred_Gandt|Fred Gandt]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Fred_Gandt|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fred_Gandt|contribs]])</small></sup> 11:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


== red colored links ==
I'm with [[User:Omei Qunhua|Omei Qunhua]] as well, please refrain from reformatting my code to suit your needs or expectations. I write my scripts to take up as little lines as I see fit. If you do not like the formatting just change it when you copy the script to your computer for work and desist from making unnecessary changes to other peoples code. I as well will continue to undo formatting changes to my work as I see them. [[User:Tomos Halsey|Tomos Halsey]] 01:29, 26 April 2014 (PST)


heya, slight lead. I think red colored links are not a good idea because the wiki color links to nonexistent pages red. --[[User:Kuraiko Yoshikawa|Kuraiko Yoshikawa]] 21:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Kindly desist from your inane paranoid obsession with a personal fad. Strife and I have discussed the purpose of edits and agree that edits should not unnecessarily change the style chosen by the example code originators. And don't split hairs with me about what constitutes "style". I will continue to revert unneeded edits back to what the originator intended. [[User:Omei Qunhua|Omei Qunhua]] 07:13, 31 December 2013 (PST)


== Example on llGetLinkPrimitiveParams ==
I obviously have not explained myself simply or clearly enough. Let's try again. There have been thousands of scripts contributed to this Wiki, by hundreds if not thousands of contributors. There have apparently been a million scripts written in LSL and there are tens of thousands of scripts in public libraries. You, I believe, are almost alone among this vast horde of experience in insisting on PUBLIC_CHANNEL and ERROR_GENERIC, (float) FALSE etc. That places you a minuscule minority. You have NO RIGHT to impose your most exceptional view on the rest of us. I personally consider it OBSCENE that you dare to suggest my contributions are in error sufficiently to warrant you getting your sticky little fingers on them, just because I didn't adhere to a very individual quirk of yours in my otherwise totally correct script. What on earth do you think gives you this right? I am sure you are ABSOLUTELY convinced of the advantages of your preferences. By all means feel free to exercise your preferences in your own creations, and I will honour your right to write what you wish in your own creations, so long as they are accurate (i.e. compile and produce correct results). But that does not give you the right as one individual to impose your ways on thousands of the rest of us. The way to convince others is not to trample rough-shod over years of work by the dedicated majority. That only alienates you, certainly from me. I repeat, I will continue to try and ensure that the valid preferences of script originators are preserved. What's your excuse? [[User:Omei Qunhua|Omei Qunhua]] 09:43, 31 December 2013 (PST)


I can't find a functional difference between the version you posted and mine (with the exception that your version does not support single prim objects with an avatar seated upon it). Maybe you could describe for me an object that breaks my script and not your revision? It's not that I haven't done testing, I have; I'm either missing something obvious or there really isn't a difference and I'm on a wild goose chase. I am at this point perplexed. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 08:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
== JSON_APPEND and JSON_DELETE ==


== Examples ==
I can't get on right now to test this but what happens if you use [[JSON_APPEND]] with [[JSON_DELETE]]? If the world were a wonderful place it would delete the last value.
<lsl>llOwnerSay(llJsonSetValue("[0,1]", [JSON_APPEND], JSON_DELETE));</lsl>
--'''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:19, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


It can't be said enough. Thank you for writing {{LSLGC|Needs Example|examples}}! -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 19:53, 3 October 2012 (PDT)
:What do you think happens if it's NOT an array?
:<lsl>llOwnerSay(llJsonSetValue("{a:1}", [JSON_APPEND], JSON_DELETE));</lsl>
:-- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:23, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


You're welcome! -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 14:53, 5 October 2012 (PDT)
::They both output [[JSON_INVALID]]. I'll erm... test and see if there's a better example script :P -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 06:29, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


== Warning! ==
:::JSON_DELETE I think is still only in RC. Thanks for looking into this. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:32, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


I like the idea of the [[Template:Warning|Warning]] boxes but I think "Warning" is a bit strong. Maybe "Pro Tip!" instead? This is also big change, so I've made a [http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/scripting/76940-warnings-advice-pro-tips.html thread about it on SL Universe]. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 14:37, 5 October 2012 (PDT)
:::I think I'll just make a feature suggestion for JSON_LAST so there is no ambiguity. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:35, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


what about that yellow exclamation mark thing I saw being used on the KB pages? -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 14:53, 5 October 2012 (PDT)
::::I tested both on <code>LeTigre Sandbox 1</code> which runs <code>3.6.7.281331</code>. It seems that is before the one introducing [[JSON_DELETE]]. So yeah... will wait and see. I removed the example script for now. -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 06:39, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::<.< sorry for wasting your time. [[JSON_LAST]] = {{JIRA|BUG-4075}} -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:47, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::Thanks for the useless link. I'd have taken a look, but no perms. So I'll just hope someone will react to that. Not that anybody would to then ones I report. Have a nice one ;) -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 06:54, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::: ^^; sorry -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 07:05, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::::Nah, it's all good. I just don't like the way some of the Linden Lab staff reacts to user reports by first acknowledging bugs and then ignoring any help provided to actually get them fixed. Closing down the JIRA from the public doesn't help either. Anyhow, I'll stop rambling off-topic. Cya -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 08:30, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::::: BUG-4075 is a feature request for a parameter "JSON_LAST" ;) --[[User:MartinRJ Fayray|MartinRJ Fayray]] 15:32, 18 October 2013 (PDT)
 
== Vendor systems comparison ==
 
Hi.
I've tried to find the Titan vending system. It seems its no longer available. The SLURL ends in midair of a sim and you don't land at the vending center, as announced in the creators profile picks. Remove the system from the table?
--[[User:Mo Noel|Mo Noel]] 09:19, 25 November 2013 (PST)
 
:Did you try contacting the creator? I personally wouldn't remove the system from the table as long as it still is working and people are using it. -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 03:25, 8 December 2013 (PST)
 
== PUBLIC_CHANNEL vs Zero ==
 
Seeing as this topic hasn't settled down, it's time for the larger community to choose. I view their decision (even if it's Pie) as binding.
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/scripting/91061-wiki-public_channel-vs-zero.html
-- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 00:15, 1 January 2014 (PST)
 
All these attempts to hide the value of PUBLIC_CHANNEL need to stop. It's just spiteful Wiki editing. Any I find I'm reverting. [[User:Darien Caldwell|Darien Caldwell]] 16:11, 8 January 2014 (PST)
 
== JSON /de pages ==
 
Hello Kireji,
 
you somehow broke the "See also" section of two of the JSON /de pages I created (llList2Json/de, llJsonSetValue/de) in your last edits. I'm reverting them.
 
See: http://i.imgur.com/jLK8d0L.png
 
Please check the pages after changing something on them. --[[User:MartinRJ Fayray|MartinRJ Fayray]] 21:25, 11 January 2014 (PST)
 
== Mesage from Ana Imfinity ==
 
Hi!
Thanks for adding informations about [[Microsector]]! You are the FIRST person that added something on my Geographic pages. I appreciate that very much.
 
You made things more clear then I did. Only that I prefer the name 'sims' for 'regions', even if it is not correct, to avoid confusion with a 'region of a continent' or 'a map region'.
 
Be happy!
 
--[[User:Anaimfinity Resident|Rays of green light. Bright and proud to be a Circassian]] 07:47, 20 January 2014 (PST)
 
Fair enough, whatever works. -- '''[[User:Kireji_Haiku|Kireji Haiku]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Kireji_Haiku|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kireji_Haiku|contribs]])</small></sup> 14:00, 20 January 2014 (PST)

Latest revision as of 13:29, 26 April 2014

Unnecessary Edits

I'm with Omei Qunhua as well, please refrain from reformatting my code to suit your needs or expectations. I write my scripts to take up as little lines as I see fit. If you do not like the formatting just change it when you copy the script to your computer for work and desist from making unnecessary changes to other peoples code. I as well will continue to undo formatting changes to my work as I see them. Tomos Halsey 01:29, 26 April 2014 (PST)

Kindly desist from your inane paranoid obsession with a personal fad. Strife and I have discussed the purpose of edits and agree that edits should not unnecessarily change the style chosen by the example code originators. And don't split hairs with me about what constitutes "style". I will continue to revert unneeded edits back to what the originator intended. Omei Qunhua 07:13, 31 December 2013 (PST)

I obviously have not explained myself simply or clearly enough. Let's try again. There have been thousands of scripts contributed to this Wiki, by hundreds if not thousands of contributors. There have apparently been a million scripts written in LSL and there are tens of thousands of scripts in public libraries. You, I believe, are almost alone among this vast horde of experience in insisting on PUBLIC_CHANNEL and ERROR_GENERIC, (float) FALSE etc. That places you a minuscule minority. You have NO RIGHT to impose your most exceptional view on the rest of us. I personally consider it OBSCENE that you dare to suggest my contributions are in error sufficiently to warrant you getting your sticky little fingers on them, just because I didn't adhere to a very individual quirk of yours in my otherwise totally correct script. What on earth do you think gives you this right? I am sure you are ABSOLUTELY convinced of the advantages of your preferences. By all means feel free to exercise your preferences in your own creations, and I will honour your right to write what you wish in your own creations, so long as they are accurate (i.e. compile and produce correct results). But that does not give you the right as one individual to impose your ways on thousands of the rest of us. The way to convince others is not to trample rough-shod over years of work by the dedicated majority. That only alienates you, certainly from me. I repeat, I will continue to try and ensure that the valid preferences of script originators are preserved. What's your excuse? Omei Qunhua 09:43, 31 December 2013 (PST)

JSON_APPEND and JSON_DELETE

I can't get on right now to test this but what happens if you use JSON_APPEND with JSON_DELETE? If the world were a wonderful place it would delete the last value. <lsl>llOwnerSay(llJsonSetValue("[0,1]", [JSON_APPEND], JSON_DELETE));</lsl> --Strife (talk|contribs) 06:19, 4 October 2013 (PDT)

What do you think happens if it's NOT an array?
<lsl>llOwnerSay(llJsonSetValue("{a:1}", [JSON_APPEND], JSON_DELETE));</lsl>
-- Strife (talk|contribs) 06:23, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
They both output JSON_INVALID. I'll erm... test and see if there's a better example script :P -- Kireji Haiku 06:29, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
JSON_DELETE I think is still only in RC. Thanks for looking into this. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 06:32, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
I think I'll just make a feature suggestion for JSON_LAST so there is no ambiguity. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 06:35, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
I tested both on LeTigre Sandbox 1 which runs 3.6.7.281331. It seems that is before the one introducing JSON_DELETE. So yeah... will wait and see. I removed the example script for now. -- Kireji Haiku 06:39, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
<.< sorry for wasting your time. JSON_LAST = BUG-4075 -- Strife (talk|contribs) 06:47, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
Thanks for the useless link. I'd have taken a look, but no perms. So I'll just hope someone will react to that. Not that anybody would to then ones I report. Have a nice one ;) -- Kireji Haiku 06:54, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
^^; sorry -- Strife (talk|contribs) 07:05, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
Nah, it's all good. I just don't like the way some of the Linden Lab staff reacts to user reports by first acknowledging bugs and then ignoring any help provided to actually get them fixed. Closing down the JIRA from the public doesn't help either. Anyhow, I'll stop rambling off-topic. Cya -- Kireji Haiku 08:30, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
BUG-4075 is a feature request for a parameter "JSON_LAST" ;) --MartinRJ Fayray 15:32, 18 October 2013 (PDT)

Vendor systems comparison

Hi. I've tried to find the Titan vending system. It seems its no longer available. The SLURL ends in midair of a sim and you don't land at the vending center, as announced in the creators profile picks. Remove the system from the table? --Mo Noel 09:19, 25 November 2013 (PST)

Did you try contacting the creator? I personally wouldn't remove the system from the table as long as it still is working and people are using it. -- Kireji Haiku 03:25, 8 December 2013 (PST)

PUBLIC_CHANNEL vs Zero

Seeing as this topic hasn't settled down, it's time for the larger community to choose. I view their decision (even if it's Pie) as binding. http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/scripting/91061-wiki-public_channel-vs-zero.html -- Strife (talk|contribs) 00:15, 1 January 2014 (PST)

All these attempts to hide the value of PUBLIC_CHANNEL need to stop. It's just spiteful Wiki editing. Any I find I'm reverting. Darien Caldwell 16:11, 8 January 2014 (PST)

JSON /de pages

Hello Kireji,

you somehow broke the "See also" section of two of the JSON /de pages I created (llList2Json/de, llJsonSetValue/de) in your last edits. I'm reverting them.

See: http://i.imgur.com/jLK8d0L.png

Please check the pages after changing something on them. --MartinRJ Fayray 21:25, 11 January 2014 (PST)

Mesage from Ana Imfinity

Hi! Thanks for adding informations about Microsector! You are the FIRST person that added something on my Geographic pages. I appreciate that very much.

You made things more clear then I did. Only that I prefer the name 'sims' for 'regions', even if it is not correct, to avoid confusion with a 'region of a continent' or 'a map region'.

Be happy!

--Rays of green light. Bright and proud to be a Circassian 07:47, 20 January 2014 (PST)

Fair enough, whatever works. -- Kireji Haiku (talk|contribs) 14:00, 20 January 2014 (PST)