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== Examples ==
== Unnecessary Edits ==


It can't be said enough. Thank you for writing {{LSLGC|Needs Example|examples}}! -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 19:53, 3 October 2012 (PDT)
I'm with [[User:Omei Qunhua|Omei Qunhua]] as well, please refrain from reformatting my code to suit your needs or expectations. I write my scripts to take up as little lines as I see fit. If you do not like the formatting just change it when you copy the script to your computer for work and desist from making unnecessary changes to other peoples code. I as well will continue to undo formatting changes to my work as I see them. [[User:Tomos Halsey|Tomos Halsey]] 01:29, 26 April 2014 (PST)


You're welcome! -- '''[[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Kireji_Haiku|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kireji_Haiku|contribs]])</small></sup> 14:53, 5 October 2012 (PDT)
Kindly desist from your inane paranoid obsession with a personal fad. Strife and I have discussed the purpose of edits and agree that edits should not unnecessarily change the style chosen by the example code originators. And don't split hairs with me about what constitutes "style". I will continue to revert unneeded edits back to what the originator intended. [[User:Omei Qunhua|Omei Qunhua]] 07:13, 31 December 2013 (PST)


== Warning! ==
I obviously have not explained myself simply or clearly enough. Let's try again. There have been thousands of scripts contributed to this Wiki, by hundreds if not thousands of contributors. There have apparently been a million scripts written in LSL and there are tens of thousands of scripts in public libraries. You, I believe, are almost alone among this vast horde of experience in insisting on PUBLIC_CHANNEL and ERROR_GENERIC, (float) FALSE etc. That places you a minuscule minority. You have NO RIGHT to impose your most exceptional view on the rest of us. I personally consider it OBSCENE that you dare to suggest my contributions are in error sufficiently to warrant you getting your sticky little fingers on them, just because I didn't adhere to a very individual quirk of yours in my otherwise totally correct script. What on earth do you think gives you this right? I am sure you are ABSOLUTELY convinced of the advantages of your preferences. By all means feel free to exercise your preferences in your own creations, and I will honour your right to write what you wish in your own creations, so long as they are accurate (i.e. compile and produce correct results). But that does not give you the right as one individual to impose your ways on thousands of the rest of us. The way to convince others is not to trample rough-shod over years of work by the dedicated majority. That only alienates you, certainly from me. I repeat, I will continue to try and ensure that the valid preferences of script originators are preserved. What's your excuse? [[User:Omei Qunhua|Omei Qunhua]] 09:43, 31 December 2013 (PST)


I like the idea of the [[Template:Warning|Warning]] boxes but I think "Warning" is a bit strong. Maybe "Pro Tip!" instead? This is also big change, so I've made a [http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/scripting/76940-warnings-advice-pro-tips.html thread about it on SL Universe]. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 14:37, 5 October 2012 (PDT)
== JSON_APPEND and JSON_DELETE ==


:what about that yellow exclamation mark thing I saw being used on the KB pages? -- '''[[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Kireji_Haiku|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kireji_Haiku|contribs]])</small></sup> 14:53, 5 October 2012 (PDT)
I can't get on right now to test this but what happens if you use [[JSON_APPEND]] with [[JSON_DELETE]]? If the world were a wonderful place it would delete the last value.
<lsl>llOwnerSay(llJsonSetValue("[0,1]", [JSON_APPEND], JSON_DELETE));</lsl>
--'''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:19, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


::Like the one in the [[Template:Hint|Hint]] examples? I think there may be several. I like the layout of [[Template:Warning|Warning]], just not the title text. I don't want to get in the way of progress so in the mean time lets use "[[Template:LSL Tip]]" which for now is a redirect to "[[Template:Warning]]" and then see where the thread goes. It gives us the option to redesign the layout later without having to edit every article. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 15:47, 5 October 2012 (PDT)
:What do you think happens if it's NOT an array?
:<lsl>llOwnerSay(llJsonSetValue("{a:1}", [JSON_APPEND], JSON_DELETE));</lsl>
:-- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:23, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


:::What about KBcaution? Could use that one. -- '''[[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Kireji_Haiku|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kireji_Haiku|contribs]])</small></sup> 03:23, 6 October 2012 (PDT)
::They both output [[JSON_INVALID]]. I'll erm... test and see if there's a better example script :P -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 06:29, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


== Please DO NOT EDIT MY USER PAGES ==
:::JSON_DELETE I think is still only in RC. Thanks for looking into this. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:32, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


If there's anything on any of my user pages you want to discuss, ASK!
:::I think I'll just make a feature suggestion for JSON_LAST so there is no ambiguity. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:35, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


That's what talk pages are for >.<
::::I tested both on <code>LeTigre Sandbox 1</code> which runs <code>3.6.7.281331</code>. It seems that is before the one introducing [[JSON_DELETE]]. So yeah... will wait and see. I removed the example script for now. -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 06:39, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


I will undo ALL your edits, and if I have to do it again I will be seriously pissed.
:::::<.< sorry for wasting your time. [[JSON_LAST]] = {{JIRA|BUG-4075}} -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 06:47, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


&nbsp;[[User:Fred_Gandt|'''<span style="font-family:arial;color:#055;font-size:16px;">f<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">red</i>g<i style="color:#0dd;font-size:10px;">andt</i></span>''']] 23:56, 1 November 2012 (PDT)
:::::Thanks for the useless link. I'd have taken a look, but no perms. So I'll just hope someone will react to that. Not that anybody would to then ones I report. Have a nice one ;) -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 06:54, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


== You removed my note to you ==
:::::: ^^; sorry -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 07:05, 4 October 2013 (PDT)


Previously I wrote here ''"Thanks for the fix to the recording tip jar script which I snagged off a different page of this wiki and had planned to fix like you just did!  However, do me a huge favor and don't change every com_channel "0" on my scripts examples to "PUBLIC_CHANNEL". You are most likely correct that it is the "right" way to do it, however ALL_THOSE_CAPS scare the living daylights out of entry level scriptors which is who I'm trying to help with all the basic scripts and examples.  Most particularly please do not change the ones on my talk page or my sandbox, which are works in progress? Thanks again for getting to the tipjar script before I did. [[User:Toady Nakamura|Toady Nakamura]] 12:07, 30 October 2012 (PDT)"''
:::::::Nah, it's all good. I just don't like the way some of the Linden Lab staff reacts to user reports by first acknowledging bugs and then ignoring any help provided to actually get them fixed. Closing down the JIRA from the public doesn't help either. Anyhow, I'll stop rambling off-topic. Cya -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 08:30, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
:Please note that I asked you not to edit my user pages. You didn't reply so I came over to see if you were active, and I see now Fred Gandt asking you to not edit other people's user pages. Also it is usually not done to remove correspondence from Wiki-talk pages without talking to the sender. It makes it look like you're trying to hide a consistent pattern of behavior. I'm sure you're an awesome scriptor, but it's not up to you to rearrange pages that people are using for various purposes - particularly without asking the page owner. In case you didn't know, Wikiformat saves every change; you can erase these on your actual talk page, but they still show in the history - which cannot be changed. [[User:Toady Nakamura|Toady Nakamura]] 08:54, 4 November 2012 (PST)
 
:::::::: BUG-4075 is a feature request for a parameter "JSON_LAST" ;) --[[User:MartinRJ Fayray|MartinRJ Fayray]] 15:32, 18 October 2013 (PDT)
 
== Vendor systems comparison ==
 
Hi.
I've tried to find the Titan vending system. It seems its no longer available. The SLURL ends in midair of a sim and you don't land at the vending center, as announced in the creators profile picks. Remove the system from the table?
--[[User:Mo Noel|Mo Noel]] 09:19, 25 November 2013 (PST)
 
:Did you try contacting the creator? I personally wouldn't remove the system from the table as long as it still is working and people are using it. -- [[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 03:25, 8 December 2013 (PST)
 
== PUBLIC_CHANNEL vs Zero ==
 
Seeing as this topic hasn't settled down, it's time for the larger community to choose. I view their decision (even if it's Pie) as binding.
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/scripting/91061-wiki-public_channel-vs-zero.html
-- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]])</small></sup> 00:15, 1 January 2014 (PST)
 
All these attempts to hide the value of PUBLIC_CHANNEL need to stop. It's just spiteful Wiki editing. Any I find I'm reverting. [[User:Darien Caldwell|Darien Caldwell]] 16:11, 8 January 2014 (PST)
 
== JSON /de pages ==
 
Hello Kireji,
 
you somehow broke the "See also" section of two of the JSON /de pages I created (llList2Json/de, llJsonSetValue/de) in your last edits. I'm reverting them.
 
See: http://i.imgur.com/jLK8d0L.png
 
Please check the pages after changing something on them. --[[User:MartinRJ Fayray|MartinRJ Fayray]] 21:25, 11 January 2014 (PST)
 
== Mesage from Ana Imfinity ==
 
Hi!
Thanks for adding informations about [[Microsector]]! You are the FIRST person that added something on my Geographic pages. I appreciate that very much.
 
You made things more clear then I did. Only that I prefer the name 'sims' for 'regions', even if it is not correct, to avoid confusion with a 'region of a continent' or 'a map region'.
 
Be happy!
 
--[[User:Anaimfinity Resident|Rays of green light. Bright and proud to be a Circassian]] 07:47, 20 January 2014 (PST)
 
Fair enough, whatever works. -- '''[[User:Kireji_Haiku|Kireji Haiku]]''' <sup><small>([[User talk:Kireji_Haiku|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kireji_Haiku|contribs]])</small></sup> 14:00, 20 January 2014 (PST)

Latest revision as of 13:29, 26 April 2014

Unnecessary Edits

I'm with Omei Qunhua as well, please refrain from reformatting my code to suit your needs or expectations. I write my scripts to take up as little lines as I see fit. If you do not like the formatting just change it when you copy the script to your computer for work and desist from making unnecessary changes to other peoples code. I as well will continue to undo formatting changes to my work as I see them. Tomos Halsey 01:29, 26 April 2014 (PST)

Kindly desist from your inane paranoid obsession with a personal fad. Strife and I have discussed the purpose of edits and agree that edits should not unnecessarily change the style chosen by the example code originators. And don't split hairs with me about what constitutes "style". I will continue to revert unneeded edits back to what the originator intended. Omei Qunhua 07:13, 31 December 2013 (PST)

I obviously have not explained myself simply or clearly enough. Let's try again. There have been thousands of scripts contributed to this Wiki, by hundreds if not thousands of contributors. There have apparently been a million scripts written in LSL and there are tens of thousands of scripts in public libraries. You, I believe, are almost alone among this vast horde of experience in insisting on PUBLIC_CHANNEL and ERROR_GENERIC, (float) FALSE etc. That places you a minuscule minority. You have NO RIGHT to impose your most exceptional view on the rest of us. I personally consider it OBSCENE that you dare to suggest my contributions are in error sufficiently to warrant you getting your sticky little fingers on them, just because I didn't adhere to a very individual quirk of yours in my otherwise totally correct script. What on earth do you think gives you this right? I am sure you are ABSOLUTELY convinced of the advantages of your preferences. By all means feel free to exercise your preferences in your own creations, and I will honour your right to write what you wish in your own creations, so long as they are accurate (i.e. compile and produce correct results). But that does not give you the right as one individual to impose your ways on thousands of the rest of us. The way to convince others is not to trample rough-shod over years of work by the dedicated majority. That only alienates you, certainly from me. I repeat, I will continue to try and ensure that the valid preferences of script originators are preserved. What's your excuse? Omei Qunhua 09:43, 31 December 2013 (PST)

JSON_APPEND and JSON_DELETE

I can't get on right now to test this but what happens if you use JSON_APPEND with JSON_DELETE? If the world were a wonderful place it would delete the last value. <lsl>llOwnerSay(llJsonSetValue("[0,1]", [JSON_APPEND], JSON_DELETE));</lsl> --Strife (talk|contribs) 06:19, 4 October 2013 (PDT)

What do you think happens if it's NOT an array?
<lsl>llOwnerSay(llJsonSetValue("{a:1}", [JSON_APPEND], JSON_DELETE));</lsl>
-- Strife (talk|contribs) 06:23, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
They both output JSON_INVALID. I'll erm... test and see if there's a better example script :P -- Kireji Haiku 06:29, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
JSON_DELETE I think is still only in RC. Thanks for looking into this. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 06:32, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
I think I'll just make a feature suggestion for JSON_LAST so there is no ambiguity. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 06:35, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
I tested both on LeTigre Sandbox 1 which runs 3.6.7.281331. It seems that is before the one introducing JSON_DELETE. So yeah... will wait and see. I removed the example script for now. -- Kireji Haiku 06:39, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
<.< sorry for wasting your time. JSON_LAST = BUG-4075 -- Strife (talk|contribs) 06:47, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
Thanks for the useless link. I'd have taken a look, but no perms. So I'll just hope someone will react to that. Not that anybody would to then ones I report. Have a nice one ;) -- Kireji Haiku 06:54, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
^^; sorry -- Strife (talk|contribs) 07:05, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
Nah, it's all good. I just don't like the way some of the Linden Lab staff reacts to user reports by first acknowledging bugs and then ignoring any help provided to actually get them fixed. Closing down the JIRA from the public doesn't help either. Anyhow, I'll stop rambling off-topic. Cya -- Kireji Haiku 08:30, 4 October 2013 (PDT)
BUG-4075 is a feature request for a parameter "JSON_LAST" ;) --MartinRJ Fayray 15:32, 18 October 2013 (PDT)

Vendor systems comparison

Hi. I've tried to find the Titan vending system. It seems its no longer available. The SLURL ends in midair of a sim and you don't land at the vending center, as announced in the creators profile picks. Remove the system from the table? --Mo Noel 09:19, 25 November 2013 (PST)

Did you try contacting the creator? I personally wouldn't remove the system from the table as long as it still is working and people are using it. -- Kireji Haiku 03:25, 8 December 2013 (PST)

PUBLIC_CHANNEL vs Zero

Seeing as this topic hasn't settled down, it's time for the larger community to choose. I view their decision (even if it's Pie) as binding. http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/scripting/91061-wiki-public_channel-vs-zero.html -- Strife (talk|contribs) 00:15, 1 January 2014 (PST)

All these attempts to hide the value of PUBLIC_CHANNEL need to stop. It's just spiteful Wiki editing. Any I find I'm reverting. Darien Caldwell 16:11, 8 January 2014 (PST)

JSON /de pages

Hello Kireji,

you somehow broke the "See also" section of two of the JSON /de pages I created (llList2Json/de, llJsonSetValue/de) in your last edits. I'm reverting them.

See: http://i.imgur.com/jLK8d0L.png

Please check the pages after changing something on them. --MartinRJ Fayray 21:25, 11 January 2014 (PST)

Mesage from Ana Imfinity

Hi! Thanks for adding informations about Microsector! You are the FIRST person that added something on my Geographic pages. I appreciate that very much.

You made things more clear then I did. Only that I prefer the name 'sims' for 'regions', even if it is not correct, to avoid confusion with a 'region of a continent' or 'a map region'.

Be happy!

--Rays of green light. Bright and proud to be a Circassian 07:47, 20 January 2014 (PST)

Fair enough, whatever works. -- Kireji Haiku (talk|contribs) 14:00, 20 January 2014 (PST)