User talk:Torley Linden

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Please add new stuff on top, thank-you!

Redirect delete?

Any chance you could delete this redirect? A few templates look at the existence of that page as evidence for whether or not the meeting happened. Also, is there anywhere else to go for these sorts of things in the future? (I was looking for a non-Linden but there doesn't seem to be any non-Linden admins... :P ) Celierra Darling 19:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Wufoo form question

Hi Torley

Zai suggested to bring this up here on your discussion page, as you'd know who would be responsible. So could you have a look at Where to file Policy Change Requests?, please? Thanks! --Boroondas Gupte 13:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Glad you asked. Yes, we can clarify this. I'll create an article and link from the form. - Torley-favicon.png on 2010-03-29 @ 5:33 AM Pacific

Region table

Heyas :-)
I just noticed that this table is embedded in 3 LLO articles and should therefor probably be protected...--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 22:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

You caught me at the right moment! It should be, and is now. THANKS. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-11-18 @ 2:43 PM PST
Welcome! :-)
One more that should probably go through the form thingy but since I'm trying to fix the localized versions:
In Linden Lab Official:Buying land in the Land Store there's a link to Homestead in #4, that's actually linking to the void sim article. I think it should go to Linden Lab Official:About Homesteads.
--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 23:09, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I'll take this too. Letting me know of quickies here is just fine, saves time for both of us. If you notice a whole bunch of stuff, you know what to do with sending a batch! I prefer those because I can work intensely on related items in a list.
And I just added a sig image link because I noticed you did yours! - Torley-favicon.png on 2009-11-18 @ 3:33 PM Pacific
Hehe ^_^ you should try to toy around with that signature setting in preferences, tho it doesn't like templates, unfortunatly :-/
It substitutes templates with the underlaying code. That can be changed in the MediaWiki settings but is switched on by default since there is some policy in the English Wikipedia about templates in signatures.
At batches: Ah okies :-) will try to sum up fixes before submitting :-)
Cyas! --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 23:38, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Speaking of regions... I'm looking at the math used at Linden_Lab_Official:Homestead_FAQ#What's the policy for converting up an Openspace region to a Homestead region, a Homestead region to a Full region, or an Openspace region to a Full region? and it appears that if I convert 3 homestead regions into a single full region, LL would owe me $25 ($1000 - ($375 + $375 + $375 ) + $100 = -$25. This can't be correct... can it? -- Strife (talk|contribs) 22:08, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for calling that out, I'm going to get verification from Concierge & Billing TO BE SURE. - Torley-favicon.png on 2009-11-23 @ 8:51 AM Pacific

Saw this...

Saw this made you this. -- Strife (talk|contribs) 07:41, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorcery! Seriously, thanks for your coding guruness. Oh! Can you provide some usage examples on that page, please? :) - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-11-18 @ 7:36 AM PST
Sure but i can't show them in action (can't have multiple TOCs in an article). -- Strife (talk|contribs) 21:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Yup I understand that part, just makes it easier for others to adopt! - Torley-favicon.png on 2009-11-23 @ 10:22 AM Pacific

Inworld policy on bots

Hi Torley, I´m translating this article (CT-538) and in the section "How will this be enforced" it says "This time next week we will begin to routinely look at the Search results and where we find clear use of Bots to gain an unfair Search advantage we will be handling it as an abuse issue." Now I´m wondering if I should translate it like "We have begun to routinely..." or if I should just leave it as is as it is citing from the blog... --Torben Trautman 18:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Also I was wondering about this part: "Going forward we are going to look at ways to allow you to voluntarily identify to us that an account is a Bot, so that we can remove it from Traffic completely." I guess I´ll just leave everything as is and we update the article once it´s up to date? --Torben Trautman 18:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey Torben! I haven't personally checked the specific status of what's happening with bot enforcement, but yes, it's generally best to word things in present tense to bring them up-to-date. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-11-02 @ 10:51 AM PST

reviewer status

Torley, I was wondering why my status as a reviewer was removed? Not sure if this is related to what happened earlier today but any insight either from you or Alexa would be appreciated. GW (T|C) -- 01:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I've emailed you about this. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-28 @ 8:06 AM PST
I did not recieve the email, my email can be a bit strange sometimes, I'll IM you with an alternate email you can try. GW (T|C) -- 16:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Recieved and replied to. Thanks for re-sending. GW (T|C) -- 17:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

2 weird articles

Heyas! Me again :-)
Just stumbled about these two articles which feature the exact same content and which titles are wacko o.O. Can you fix?

--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 17:31, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah! Keep adding any more you find right here, I'll be refreshing my talk page later after I get through your first (email) list... THANXARAMA. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-14 @ 10:35 AM PST
OK, am done Fixing all micro formatting flaws (that I could find) in main namespace KB articles.
Not much but here's what I found, noted and didn't correct on my own but here's what I remember right now:
What is an avatar key? is same as What is a UUID?. Should be "an" UUID anyway, or?
Three images in Tips and Tricks: Better Building with Primfficiency! aren't working (weren't working in Parature either).
Also, the Style Guide mentions that the first appearance of trademarked terms should have their related trademark symbols. Template:Seal contains the terms "Second Life" and "Linden Lab". Would be clever to add ® there, then we won't have to manually fix it in each article for the actual content.
Maybe a link to the Community Translation Project would be a good idea in there. We're having no obvious link where people are encouraged to translate articles (would be of great benefit for the CT Project.
Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 18:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
What a journey it's been! Fixed those and added notes where necessary. "Would be clever..." is VERY CLEVER INDEED! I'll let the list know (for this and other localization tasks that are related to KB work but not in the Doc Team's direct responsibilities). Also, I want to promote CTP more but need to get Noelle & Team's approval. So let's wait on them. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-14 @ 4:01 PM PST
Heyas :-)
Yeah, was an awesome editing rampage you had there! It pushed you up to #3 ^_^
Alerted by an edit of JamesG Comsys, I noticed that there are three articles currently linking to a non-existend Concierge Support contact information article. These are:
I guess Concierge Support contact information might be one of the articles that should still be in Parature, since LL only makes these available to people with the right account status. So the blank Wiki article would best be removed and the LLO article links updated to point back to parature.
--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 17:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Good gosh, I can't have anyone thinking I'm slacking off here. ;) Thanx re: those Concierge articles, my able colleagues are inspecting that now. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-19 @ 10:10 AM PST


Heyas :-)
To remarks about templates. One is related to the Template:Navbox subpages. I think, rather than using templates inside a navbox, it would be better to use a navbox inside a template. The advantages are: More freedom to change the appearance and less to type when you want to include it in an article.
So instead of


You'd create one Template:Adult Navbox and then use a {{Navbox|title=something|content=something else}} inside of it. You'd just have to add {{Adult Navbox}} to articles (looks cleaner) and you can style changes in the Adult Navbox without having to change the Navbox template (or all articles using it).

Another thing: some tags don't like wikicode as an argument. They don't interpret it as wikicode. <videoflash>, <lsl> and <pre> belong to these. They need to be treated with a {{#tag|parameter|argument1=value1|argument2=value2}} kind of setup, see the one on the bottom here. I changed it for Template:KBvideo.

cu :-) --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 18:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
P.S: After I realized that "greets" isn't a proper way to say "sincerly yours" in a less formal way in English, I'm in the dilemma of lacking a flowery phrase to end my mails and comments :-/ ^^

Hey Zai! I thought about "it would be better to use a navbox inside a template" too. But here's the problem: then what happens if I want to change the UNIVERSAL STYLE of all those navboxes? Or, what if I just want to include the article listing WITHOUT the box, as on Category:Adult? Anyway, we're still in the early stages here, so if this ends up being awkward, it surely will be replaced by a better way. That's evolution.
I'll check Template:KBvideo soon and appreciate your attention to detail.
"Greets" or "Cheers" is cool with me... heck, invent your unique own! - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-12 @ 11:57 AM PST
I thought this through some more (nested templates demand nested logic!) and now clearly understand the Template:Navbox benefits you're pointing out to me! I also misunderstood how styles get applied, so ignore my "UNIVERSAL STYLE" question. I'm going to make your suggested superior change to the "Adult" and "Xstreet" ones shortly. Good to catch this early! - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-10-12 @ 12:39 PM PST
Very welcome :-) btw: The {{#tag...etc markup workaround is attributed to Kuraiko. We had the same problem yesterday in another Wiki and he found the solution. Some documentation is really hidden away where you'd not expect it to be ^^
Cyas :-) --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 00:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Flagged Revs

Heyas Torley! :-)
I'm pretty sure you'd be interested in reading Enable FlaggedRevs only on specific pages. I didn't test it yet... But the answer came from one of the two Flagged Revs developers.
Cheers =) --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 01:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

YO ZAI! I'm back from the weekend and ready to rock. YES, THANK YOU for the proactive research — I'll check this out and make sure our Migration Team sees it. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-09-08 @ 7:49 AM PST
Kewl, thx and ROCK ON! ^^ --Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 19:18, 8 September 2009 (UTC)


Just a short heads-up, that you pasted the wrong URL over here. I dunno which is the right one, or I would have corrected it... :-)
--Zai signature.png (talk|contribs) 05:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you fix a kinda embarassing word choice error of mine that got archived please?

a while ago, I was under the mistaken impression that the slang "bollocks" could be used in the same way as the slangs "damn" and "crap", though more recently I've read it is supposed to be used for a different meaning, would it be possible to replace the instance of that slang that got archived with the last version of my comment about my first link the Joss Stone video with your colortheme having become invalid, with "balls" please? (that one I'm sure I've seen british people using in the way I intended to)--TigroSpottystripes Katsu 12:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, done. :) - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-07-20 @ 7:25 AM PST

Importing Wikipedia content - part 2

Torley, can you take a look at and chime in on Project:Editing_Discussion#Wikipedia_content_-_part_2? It's in regards to the steps that need to be taken on this end to implement Wikipedia content. Thanks. GW (T|C) -- 17:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


Emblem-important-yellow.png Note! OptiPNG FTW!

A Resident has noticed you've been uploading PNG images lately. Please consider using a lossless recompression tool such as OptiPNG to reduce the file size without compromising on quality. Alternatively, consider uploading the PNG images as JPEGs!

A vidtut on how to use OptiPNG can be viewed on Template:OptiPNG FTW!

Please point me to any problematic images. I sometimes upload large screenshots but have them dynamically resized by MediaWiki into smaller JPGs, so the original PNG isn't shown in the page, anyway. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-05-06 @ 6:00 AM PST

Hippos and Robots

Whoever is responsible for SL Knowledge Base: Hippo and SL Knowledge Base: Robots, please give them my kudos (^_^)
Greetz, Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 18:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll be sure to salute them all HIPPOTRONIC. With extra Auto-Tune on top. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-04-29 @ 12:05 PM PST
So ahhh how'd you find these? And are there any others that are hilarious but not "real" KB articles? - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-04-29 @ 12:20 PM PST
They're gone ;_;
I found em when I searched for ban (I'm trying to populate wiki articles with KB article links) and they showed up in the search although not related... Although they're from 2007, there were hardly people who looked at them (had 20 page views before I spread the link via twitter...). I then tried to find others by manually adding KB ID's at the end of the link but with no success so far.
Zai signature.png Lynch (talk|contribs) 19:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, we removed them, they were used for testing the KB eons ago. But they'll live on in our memory. Very clever! Hehe. - Torley-favicon.png Torley on 2009-04-29 @ 12:37 PM PST