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'''Pastrami Linden:''' man I keep getting the hours mixed up with Thursday :)
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' man I keep getting the hours mixed up with Thursday :)<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' what's cracking, WindLighters?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' what's cracking, WindLighters?<br>
Damian Delacroix: Lotsa stuff.. :)
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Damian Delacroix: Lotsa stuff.. :)<br>
norritt Xi: okay Pastrami, got some news concerning the 8800GTX freeze bug.
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norritt Xi: okay Pastrami, got some news concerning the 8800GTX freeze bug.<br>
Damian Delacroix: Just nothing at the moment, apparently. :)
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Damian Delacroix: Just nothing at the moment, apparently. :)<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' sweet! go!
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'''Zen Linden:''' sweet! go!<br>
norritt Xi: I didn't freeze since I turned of FSAA
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norritt Xi: I didn't freeze since I turned of FSAA<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' has it been dead since 8:00am?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' has it been dead since 8:00am?<br>
DukeSean Westland: hi every one
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DukeSean Westland: hi every one<br>
DukeSean Westland: can you hear me
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DukeSean Westland: can you hear me<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' we can see your typing
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' we can see your typing<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' :)
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' :)<br>
DukeSean Westland: losers]
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DukeSean Westland: losers]<br>
norritt Xi: I'll turn it back on and se if it occurs
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norritt Xi: I'll turn it back on and se if it occurs<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' cool norrit. If I can repro it here (i've been working on other bugs), i'll get it to NVIDIA asap
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'''Zen Linden:''' cool norrit. If I can repro it here (i've been working on other bugs), i'll get it to NVIDIA asap<br>
DukeSean Westland: that was a
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DukeSean Westland: that was a<br>
DukeSean Westland: mistake
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DukeSean Westland: mistake<br>
norritt Xi: I got also another theory
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norritt Xi: I got also another theory<br>
Brett Linden is Online
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Brett Linden is Online<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:15] Keisha Ninetails: windlight updates have been slowing down, does this mean the small bugs are squashed and it's just a few biggies left before it goes rc?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:15] Keisha Ninetails: windlight updates have been slowing down, does this mean the small bugs are squashed and it's just a few biggies left before it goes rc?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' Keisha, yeah, something like that
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' Keisha, yeah, something like that<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' actually RC is like moments away
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' actually RC is like moments away<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' :)
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' :)<br>
Spaceman Opus: :-)
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Spaceman Opus: :-)<br>
Spaceman Opus: yay!
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Spaceman Opus: yay!<br>
Damian Delacroix: Really? That's awesome.
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Damian Delacroix: Really? That's awesome.<br>
Keisha Ninetails: moments as in go to bed and wake up and it's in RC?
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Keisha Ninetails: moments as in go to bed and wake up and it's in RC?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' something like that ;)
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' something like that ;)<br>
Spaceman Opus: or moments as in when we finish here
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Spaceman Opus: or moments as in when we finish here<br>
Brett Linden is Offline
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Brett Linden is Offline<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' the first one
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' the first one<br>
Spaceman Opus: worth a shot
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Spaceman Opus: worth a shot<br>
Spaceman Opus: :-)
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Spaceman Opus: :-)<br>
Keisha Ninetails: so by tomorrow?
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Keisha Ninetails: so by tomorrow?<br>
norritt Xi: The GTX chip temperature is between 75°C idle and 85 sometimes 90°C on full load. Though nVidia says thats okay that was to high for me. The cooler runs most of the time at 66% even if the gpu is at 80° so I got the rivatuner and set the cooler speed fixed on 100%. Now I'm running at 75° full load.
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norritt Xi: The GTX chip temperature is between 75°C idle and 85 sometimes 90°C on full load. Though nVidia says thats okay that was to high for me. The cooler runs most of the time at 66% even if the gpu is at 80° so I got the rivatuner and set the cooler speed fixed on 100%. Now I'm running at 75° full load.<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' I can neither confirm nor deny aything stated here
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' I can neither confirm nor deny aything stated here<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' interesting... wondering if that plus aa is causing the occlusion query stalls
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'''Zen Linden:''' interesting... wondering if that plus aa is causing the occlusion query stalls<br>
Damian Delacroix: It's been so long since I've used the standard browser.. but I tend to wear a lot of prim heavy avatars.. and crossing sim borders, or sometimes just landing in sim, my avatar breaks up.. is that something in First Look?
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Damian Delacroix: It's been so long since I've used the standard browser.. but I tend to wear a lot of prim heavy avatars.. and crossing sim borders, or sometimes just landing in sim, my avatar breaks up.. is that something in First Look?<br>
Alexa Linden is Online
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Alexa Linden is Online<br>
Sally Linden is Online
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Sally Linden is Online<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:19] Pam Yumako: chief who is the Conf need in the Computer for play windlight with no lag and Problems?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:19] Pam Yumako: chief who is the Conf need in the Computer for play windlight with no lag and Problems?<br>
Damian Delacroix: ROFL.. just saw the blinking sign. I sit way too low. :)
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Damian Delacroix: ROFL.. just saw the blinking sign. I sit way too low. :)<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' Pam, I believe you are asking me, the chef, what comp is recommended?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' Pam, I believe you are asking me, the chef, what comp is recommended?<br>
Torley Linden is Offline
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Torley Linden is Offline<br>
Canoeman Darwin: It's a riot ere innit!
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Canoeman Darwin: It's a riot ere innit!<br>
Pam Yumako: yes
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Pam Yumako: yes<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' well, see our recommended machine page:
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' well, see our recommended machine page:<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' NVIDIA 8800 is a great card to have
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'''Zen Linden:''' NVIDIA 8800 is a great card to have<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' and yes, Zen just finished it for me
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' and yes, Zen just finished it for me<br>
Pam Yumako: i already have that conf but o don't know why i have problems
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Pam Yumako: i already have that conf but o don't know why i have problems<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' I personally recommend the "Voodoo 5"
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' I personally recommend the "Voodoo 5"<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' Kidding ^
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' Kidding ^<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' http://secondlife.com/corporate/sysreqs.php
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' http://secondlife.com/corporate/sysreqs.php<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' papi, you are a sick, sick human being
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'''Zen Linden:''' papi, you are a sick, sick human being<br>
Damian Delacroix: VooDoo.. something that hasn't been around in years..
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Damian Delacroix: VooDoo.. something that hasn't been around in years..<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' although voodoo + quake3 = awesome
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'''Zen Linden:''' although voodoo + quake3 = awesome<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' hehe. Or the Riva TNT. ;)
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' hehe. Or the Riva TNT. ;)<br>
Damian Delacroix: Yeah, that would work. ;-D
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Damian Delacroix: Yeah, that would work. ;-D<br>
Data Linden is Online
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Data Linden is Online<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' Riva TNT2
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'''Zen Linden:''' Riva TNT2<br>
Pam Yumako: oO
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Pam Yumako: oO<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' good card
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'''Zen Linden:''' good card<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' Yeah stay away from the tnt as well. :)
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' Yeah stay away from the tnt as well. :)<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' The Rivs McIntyre Platinum Extreme Gamer X
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' The Rivs McIntyre Platinum Extreme Gamer X<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' ^Riva
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' ^Riva<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' queue is empty
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' queue is empty<br>
norritt Xi: Any date scheduled for the next WWL release ?
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norritt Xi: Any date scheduled for the next WWL release ?<br>
norritt Xi: -W
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norritt Xi: -W<br>
Durl Linden is Offline
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Durl Linden is Offline<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' World Wrestling League?
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' World Wrestling League?<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' Soon.
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' Soon.<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' Man I can't wait to see the Ultimate Warrior suit up against Brutus the Barber Beefcake again
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' Man I can't wait to see the Ultimate Warrior suit up against Brutus the Barber Beefcake again<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' snip snip go the shears
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' snip snip go the shears<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' oh yeah, SOON
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' oh yeah, SOON<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:26] Keisha Ninetails: what big bugs are you guys still having the most issues with?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:26] Keisha Ninetails: what big bugs are you guys still having the most issues with?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' Zen, why don't you answer?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' Zen, why don't you answer?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' then I will too
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' then I will too<br>
Pam Yumako: i think the List Friend is bugged
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Pam Yumako: i think the List Friend is bugged<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' bugs
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'''Zen Linden:''' bugs<br>
Hamilton Linden is Offline
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Hamilton Linden is Offline<br>
Pam Yumako: Hippos and waiting
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Pam Yumako: Hippos and waiting<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' having a hard time STILL reproing a few
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'''Zen Linden:''' having a hard time STILL reproing a few<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' the ati triangle ickiness
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'''Zen Linden:''' the ati triangle ickiness<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' I'll be hitting that more, today
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'''Zen Linden:''' I'll be hitting that more, today<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' also what norritt and I were talking about
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'''Zen Linden:''' also what norritt and I were talking about<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' freezes on TP with some NVIDIA 8800s
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'''Zen Linden:''' freezes on TP with some NVIDIA 8800s<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' largely what i see from my perspective
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'''Zen Linden:''' largely what i see from my perspective<br>
Keisha Ninetails: outside the normal forced relogs?
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Keisha Ninetails: outside the normal forced relogs?<br>
norritt Xi: Yeah I guess were getting closer though
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norritt Xi: Yeah I guess were getting closer though<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' is compatability issues
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'''Zen Linden:''' is compatability issues<br>
Hamilton Linden is Online
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Hamilton Linden is Online<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' I was going to say that the biggest concern now is crashes and stalls
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' I was going to say that the biggest concern now is crashes and stalls<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' yep
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'''Zen Linden:''' yep<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' which will be our next major focus
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' which will be our next major focus<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:26] norritt Xi: Well if queue is empty... I got a question about compiling windlight I'm converting it to work with VS2005EE...
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:26] norritt Xi: Well if queue is empty... I got a question about compiling windlight I'm converting it to work with VS2005EE...<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' shoot
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' shoot<br>
Seraph Linden is Offline
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Seraph Linden is Offline<br>
norritt Xi: Okay I bugged Zen yesterday already with that
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norritt Xi: Okay I bugged Zen yesterday already with that<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' compiling?
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'''Zen Linden:''' compiling?<br>
norritt Xi: I had issues with bison first I could resolve that ... was the bison.simple being located in the wrong dir
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norritt Xi: I had issues with bison first I could resolve that ... was the bison.simple being located in the wrong dir<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' ah
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'''Zen Linden:''' ah<br>
norritt Xi: I got one error left
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norritt Xi: I got one error left<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' the cygwin dependency is rough at times
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'''Zen Linden:''' the cygwin dependency is rough at times<br>
norritt Xi: I get a file ytab.cpp.output
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norritt Xi: I get a file ytab.cpp.output<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' yep
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'''Zen Linden:''' yep<br>
norritt Xi: But no ytab.cpp
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norritt Xi: But no ytab.cpp<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' that gets generated
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' that gets generated<br>
norritt Xi: No actually it doesn't
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norritt Xi: No actually it doesn't<br>
norritt Xi: 2>------ Build started: Project: lscript_compile, Configuration: Release Win32 ------ 2>Compiling... 2>ytab.cpp 2>c1xx : fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: '.\ytab.cpp': No such file or directory 2>Build log was saved at "file://h:\sl\wl\linden\indra\lscript\lscript_compile\Release\BuildLog.htm" 2>lscript_compile - 1 error(s), 0 warning(s) 3>------ Build started: Project: newview, Configuration: ReleaseForDownload Win32 ------ 3>Executing pre-build batch file 3>master: http://secondlife.com/app/message_template/master_message_template.msg 3>current: h:\sl\wl\linden\scripts\messages\message_template.msg 3>Refreshing master cache from http://secondlife.com/app/message_template/master_message_template.msg 3>--- PASS --- 3>Newer 3> in message GroupProposalBallot: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base 3> in message AgentDropGroup: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base 3> in message ScriptRunningReply: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base
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norritt Xi: 2>------ Build started: Project: lscript_compile, Configuration: Release Win32 ------ 2>Compiling... 2>ytab.cpp 2>c1xx : fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: '.\ytab.cpp': No such file or directory 2>Build log was saved at "file://h:\sl\wl\linden\indra\lscript\lscript_compile\Release\BuildLog.htm" 2>lscript_compile - 1 error(s), 0 warning(s) 3>------ Build started: Project: newview, Configuration: ReleaseForDownload Win32 ------ 3>Executing pre-build batch file 3>master: http://secondlife.com/app/message_template/master_message_template.msg 3>current: h:\sl\wl\linden\scripts\messages\message_template.msg 3>Refreshing master cache from http://secondlife.com/app/message_template/master_message_template.msg 3>--- PASS --- 3>Newer 3> in message GroupProposalBallot: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base 3> in message AgentDropGroup: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base 3> in message ScriptRunningReply: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' is the cygwin bin dir in your executables dir for vc2005?
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'''Zen Linden:''' is the cygwin bin dir in your executables dir for vc2005?<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' Sounds like the lex / bison pre-reqs still haven't been setup properly for your build
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' Sounds like the lex / bison pre-reqs still haven't been setup properly for your build<br>
norritt Xi: Yes I only get one comiling error
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norritt Xi: Yes I only get one comiling error<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' The first error is ytab, which relates to lex / bison through cygwin
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' The first error is ytab, which relates to lex / bison through cygwin<br>
Torley Linden is Online
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Torley Linden is Online<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' you don't have byacc installed as well do you? I've seen conflict problems with that
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'''Zen Linden:''' you don't have byacc installed as well do you? I've seen conflict problems with that<br>
Torley Linden is Offline
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Torley Linden is Offline<br>
norritt Xi: No I've got the cygwin installed and the unixutils package
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norritt Xi: No I've got the cygwin installed and the unixutils package<br>
Durl Linden is Online
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Durl Linden is Online<br>
norritt Xi: I followed the instructions on the wiki I also dowloaded the recommended software
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norritt Xi: I followed the instructions on the wiki I also dowloaded the recommended software<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' norrit, you're either missing something from the cygwin install, have something extra installed that's conflicting in cygwin, or haven't setup the directories properly in Visual Studio.
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' norrit, you're either missing something from the cygwin install, have something extra installed that's conflicting in cygwin, or haven't setup the directories properly in Visual Studio.<br>
Eirynne Sieyes: can i get the software link again. it didn't open
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Eirynne Sieyes: can i get the software link again. it didn't open<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' Either way, the problem lies in how you've configured cygwin
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' Either way, the problem lies in how you've configured cygwin<br>
Brad Linden suggests opening up the BuildLog.htm that visual studio spits out and looking at the exact command line for lex/yacc that's failing
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Brad Linden suggests opening up the BuildLog.htm that visual studio spits out and looking at the exact command line for lex/yacc that's failing<br>
Seraph Linden is Online
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Seraph Linden is Online<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:29] Zacg Walworth: is secondlife.... i dont know... how do you get involved with it? [8:29] Zacg Walworth: is it just flying around and talking with other people?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:29] Zacg Walworth: is secondlife.... i dont know... how do you get involved with it? [8:29] Zacg Walworth: is it just flying around and talking with other people?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' audience, care to answer this one?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' audience, care to answer this one?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' :)
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' :)<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' Zacg, try building. Try scripting
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'''Zen Linden:''' Zacg, try building. Try scripting<br>
Annelin Corrigible: try visiting
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Annelin Corrigible: try visiting<br>
Keisha Ninetails: is Zacg even here?
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Keisha Ninetails: is Zacg even here?<br>
Annelin Corrigible: I don't think
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Annelin Corrigible: I don't think<br>
Brad Linden recommends torley's video tutorials
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Brad Linden recommends torley's video tutorials<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:37] Annelin Corrigible: Dis you have a look on Realxtend ? [8:37] Annelin Corrigible: Did*
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:37] Annelin Corrigible: Dis you have a look on Realxtend ? [8:37] Annelin Corrigible: Did*<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' oh yeah, sure did
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' oh yeah, sure did<br>
Annelin Corrigible: They use Ogre
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Annelin Corrigible: They use Ogre<br>
'''Jeremy Linden:''' Link to a whole lot of video tutorials: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Video_Tutorials
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'''Jeremy Linden:''' Link to a whole lot of video tutorials: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Video_Tutorials<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' we love ogre
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'''Zen Linden:''' we love ogre<br>
Annelin Corrigible: I didn't try it myself
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Annelin Corrigible: I didn't try it myself<br>
Brad Linden should get an ogre avatar
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Brad Linden should get an ogre avatar<br>
Annelin Corrigible: but everybody say they have shaders
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Annelin Corrigible: but everybody say they have shaders<br>
Annelin Corrigible: dynamic shaders
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Annelin Corrigible: dynamic shaders<br>
Eirynne Sieyes: Ouuu good stuff!
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Eirynne Sieyes: Ouuu good stuff!<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' shaders or shadows?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' shaders or shadows?<br>
Annelin Corrigible: shadows sorry
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Annelin Corrigible: shadows sorry<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' I saw shadowing of avatars, but no general scene shadows.
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' I saw shadowing of avatars, but no general scene shadows.<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' But that was from the videos.
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' But that was from the videos.<br>
Annelin Corrigible: ok
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Annelin Corrigible: ok<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:40] Keisha Ninetails: when are region/estate level sky and water presets going to be added to the region/estate settings?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:40] Keisha Ninetails: when are region/estate level sky and water presets going to be added to the region/estate settings?<br>
Alexa Linden is Offline
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Alexa Linden is Offline<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' once we get the crash rate down and WL has been in release for a while
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' once we get the crash rate down and WL has been in release for a while<br>
Keisha Ninetails: pfft
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Keisha Ninetails: pfft<br>
Keisha Ninetails: release or RC?
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Keisha Ninetails: release or RC?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' release
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' release<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' :)
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' :)<br>
Keisha Ninetails: oki
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Keisha Ninetails: oki<br>
esf123 Sodwind is Offline
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esf123 Sodwind is Offline<br>
'''Zen Linden:''' headed to a doc appt. See y'all soon!
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'''Zen Linden:''' headed to a doc appt. See y'all soon!<br>
Keisha Ninetails: have fun
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Keisha Ninetails: have fun<br>
Zen Linden is Offline
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Zen Linden is Offline<br>
Incredible Tomorrow: am not here
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Incredible Tomorrow: am not here<br>
Logan Linden is Online
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Logan Linden is Online<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' queue empty
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' queue empty<br>
Keisha Ninetails: no it's not
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Keisha Ninetails: no it's not<br>
Keisha Ninetails: c'mon, it's not like I'm asking for your phone number or anything
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Keisha Ninetails: c'mon, it's not like I'm asking for your phone number or anything<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:47] Keisha Ninetails: ok, what if I asked, which LSL functions for glow will be added? [8:47] Keisha Ninetails: AND, will it affect particles?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' [8:47] Keisha Ninetails: ok, what if I asked, which LSL functions for glow will be added? [8:47] Keisha Ninetails: AND, will it affect particles?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' BigPapi?
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' BigPapi?<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' or Brad
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' or Brad<br>
Pam Yumako: fi fi fi fi...
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Pam Yumako: fi fi fi fi...<br>
'''BigPapi Linden:''' No idea, I haven't seen that LSL code.
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'''BigPapi Linden:''' No idea, I haven't seen that LSL code.<br>
'''Brad Linden:''' hold on, looking...
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'''Brad Linden:''' hold on, looking...<br>
'''Brad Linden:''' here's the draft release notes for that feature:
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'''Brad Linden:''' here's the draft release notes for that feature:<br>
'''Brad Linden:''' New features and changes: * VWR-3114 : WindLight: Make glow scriptable added PRIM_GLOW flag for llGetPrimitiveParams, llSetPrimitiveParams, llSetLinkPrimitiveParams
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'''Brad Linden:''' New features and changes: * VWR-3114 : WindLight: Make glow scriptable added PRIM_GLOW flag for llGetPrimitiveParams, llSetPrimitiveParams, llSetLinkPrimitiveParams<br>
Babbage Linden is Online
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Babbage Linden is Online<br>
Keisha Ninetails: so no llSetGlow() or llGetGlow()?
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Keisha Ninetails: so no llSetGlow() or llGetGlow()?<br>
'''Brad Linden:''' not at this time
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'''Brad Linden:''' not at this time<br>
Keisha Ninetails: oki
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Keisha Ninetails: oki<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' alright all, as there are no more questions, I'm going to wind this down
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'''Pastrami Linden:''' alright all, as there are no more questions, I'm going to wind this down<br>
'''Pastrami Linden:''' 10
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Revision as of 13:56, 10 March 2008

Pastrami Linden: man I keep getting the hours mixed up with Thursday :)
Pastrami Linden: what's cracking, WindLighters?
Damian Delacroix: Lotsa stuff.. :)
norritt Xi: okay Pastrami, got some news concerning the 8800GTX freeze bug.
Damian Delacroix: Just nothing at the moment, apparently. :)
Zen Linden: sweet! go!
norritt Xi: I didn't freeze since I turned of FSAA
Pastrami Linden: has it been dead since 8:00am?
DukeSean Westland: hi every one
DukeSean Westland: can you hear me
Pastrami Linden: we can see your typing
Pastrami Linden: :)
DukeSean Westland: losers]
norritt Xi: I'll turn it back on and se if it occurs
Zen Linden: cool norrit. If I can repro it here (i've been working on other bugs), i'll get it to NVIDIA asap
DukeSean Westland: that was a
DukeSean Westland: mistake
norritt Xi: I got also another theory
Brett Linden is Online
Pastrami Linden: [8:15] Keisha Ninetails: windlight updates have been slowing down, does this mean the small bugs are squashed and it's just a few biggies left before it goes rc?
Pastrami Linden: Keisha, yeah, something like that
Pastrami Linden: actually RC is like moments away
Pastrami Linden: :)
Spaceman Opus: :-)
Spaceman Opus: yay!
Damian Delacroix: Really? That's awesome.
Keisha Ninetails: moments as in go to bed and wake up and it's in RC?
Pastrami Linden: something like that ;)
Spaceman Opus: or moments as in when we finish here
Brett Linden is Offline
Pastrami Linden: the first one
Spaceman Opus: worth a shot
Spaceman Opus: :-)
Keisha Ninetails: so by tomorrow?
norritt Xi: The GTX chip temperature is between 75°C idle and 85 sometimes 90°C on full load. Though nVidia says thats okay that was to high for me. The cooler runs most of the time at 66% even if the gpu is at 80° so I got the rivatuner and set the cooler speed fixed on 100%. Now I'm running at 75° full load.
Pastrami Linden: I can neither confirm nor deny aything stated here
Zen Linden: interesting... wondering if that plus aa is causing the occlusion query stalls
Damian Delacroix: It's been so long since I've used the standard browser.. but I tend to wear a lot of prim heavy avatars.. and crossing sim borders, or sometimes just landing in sim, my avatar breaks up.. is that something in First Look?
Alexa Linden is Online
Sally Linden is Online
Pastrami Linden: [8:19] Pam Yumako: chief who is the Conf need in the Computer for play windlight with no lag and Problems?
Damian Delacroix: ROFL.. just saw the blinking sign. I sit way too low. :)
Pastrami Linden: Pam, I believe you are asking me, the chef, what comp is recommended?
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Canoeman Darwin: It's a riot ere innit!
Pam Yumako: yes
Pastrami Linden: well, see our recommended machine page:
Zen Linden: NVIDIA 8800 is a great card to have
Pastrami Linden: and yes, Zen just finished it for me
Pam Yumako: i already have that conf but o don't know why i have problems
BigPapi Linden: I personally recommend the "Voodoo 5"
BigPapi Linden: Kidding ^
Pastrami Linden: http://secondlife.com/corporate/sysreqs.php
Zen Linden: papi, you are a sick, sick human being
Damian Delacroix: VooDoo.. something that hasn't been around in years..
Zen Linden: although voodoo + quake3 = awesome
BigPapi Linden: hehe. Or the Riva TNT. ;)
Damian Delacroix: Yeah, that would work. ;-D
Data Linden is Online
Zen Linden: Riva TNT2
Pam Yumako: oO
Zen Linden: good card
BigPapi Linden: Yeah stay away from the tnt as well. :)
Pastrami Linden: The Rivs McIntyre Platinum Extreme Gamer X
Pastrami Linden: ^Riva
Pastrami Linden: queue is empty
norritt Xi: Any date scheduled for the next WWL release ?
norritt Xi: -W
Durl Linden is Offline
BigPapi Linden: World Wrestling League?
BigPapi Linden: Soon.
Pastrami Linden: Man I can't wait to see the Ultimate Warrior suit up against Brutus the Barber Beefcake again
Pastrami Linden: snip snip go the shears
Pastrami Linden: oh yeah, SOON
Pastrami Linden: [8:26] Keisha Ninetails: what big bugs are you guys still having the most issues with?
Pastrami Linden: Zen, why don't you answer?
Pastrami Linden: then I will too
Pam Yumako: i think the List Friend is bugged
Zen Linden: bugs
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Pam Yumako: Hippos and waiting
Zen Linden: having a hard time STILL reproing a few
Zen Linden: the ati triangle ickiness
Zen Linden: I'll be hitting that more, today
Zen Linden: also what norritt and I were talking about
Zen Linden: freezes on TP with some NVIDIA 8800s
Zen Linden: largely what i see from my perspective
Keisha Ninetails: outside the normal forced relogs?
norritt Xi: Yeah I guess were getting closer though
Zen Linden: is compatability issues
Hamilton Linden is Online
Pastrami Linden: I was going to say that the biggest concern now is crashes and stalls
Zen Linden: yep
Pastrami Linden: which will be our next major focus
Pastrami Linden: [8:26] norritt Xi: Well if queue is empty... I got a question about compiling windlight I'm converting it to work with VS2005EE...
Pastrami Linden: shoot
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norritt Xi: Okay I bugged Zen yesterday already with that
Zen Linden: compiling?
norritt Xi: I had issues with bison first I could resolve that ... was the bison.simple being located in the wrong dir
Zen Linden: ah
norritt Xi: I got one error left
Zen Linden: the cygwin dependency is rough at times
norritt Xi: I get a file ytab.cpp.output
Zen Linden: yep
norritt Xi: But no ytab.cpp
BigPapi Linden: that gets generated
norritt Xi: No actually it doesn't
norritt Xi: 2>------ Build started: Project: lscript_compile, Configuration: Release Win32 ------ 2>Compiling... 2>ytab.cpp 2>c1xx : fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: '.\ytab.cpp': No such file or directory 2>Build log was saved at "file://h:\sl\wl\linden\indra\lscript\lscript_compile\Release\BuildLog.htm" 2>lscript_compile - 1 error(s), 0 warning(s) 3>------ Build started: Project: newview, Configuration: ReleaseForDownload Win32 ------ 3>Executing pre-build batch file 3>master: http://secondlife.com/app/message_template/master_message_template.msg 3>current: h:\sl\wl\linden\scripts\messages\message_template.msg 3>Refreshing master cache from http://secondlife.com/app/message_template/master_message_template.msg 3>--- PASS --- 3>Newer 3> in message GroupProposalBallot: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base 3> in message AgentDropGroup: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base 3> in message ScriptRunningReply: is more deprecated: UDPDeprecated vs. NotDeprecated in base
Zen Linden: is the cygwin bin dir in your executables dir for vc2005?
BigPapi Linden: Sounds like the lex / bison pre-reqs still haven't been setup properly for your build
norritt Xi: Yes I only get one comiling error
BigPapi Linden: The first error is ytab, which relates to lex / bison through cygwin
Torley Linden is Online
Zen Linden: you don't have byacc installed as well do you? I've seen conflict problems with that
Torley Linden is Offline
norritt Xi: No I've got the cygwin installed and the unixutils package
Durl Linden is Online
norritt Xi: I followed the instructions on the wiki I also dowloaded the recommended software
BigPapi Linden: norrit, you're either missing something from the cygwin install, have something extra installed that's conflicting in cygwin, or haven't setup the directories properly in Visual Studio.
Eirynne Sieyes: can i get the software link again. it didn't open
BigPapi Linden: Either way, the problem lies in how you've configured cygwin
Brad Linden suggests opening up the BuildLog.htm that visual studio spits out and looking at the exact command line for lex/yacc that's failing
Seraph Linden is Online
Pastrami Linden: [8:29] Zacg Walworth: is secondlife.... i dont know... how do you get involved with it? [8:29] Zacg Walworth: is it just flying around and talking with other people?
Pastrami Linden: audience, care to answer this one?
Pastrami Linden: :)
Zen Linden: Zacg, try building. Try scripting
Annelin Corrigible: try visiting
Keisha Ninetails: is Zacg even here?
Annelin Corrigible: I don't think
Brad Linden recommends torley's video tutorials
Pastrami Linden: [8:37] Annelin Corrigible: Dis you have a look on Realxtend ? [8:37] Annelin Corrigible: Did*
Pastrami Linden: oh yeah, sure did
Annelin Corrigible: They use Ogre
Jeremy Linden: Link to a whole lot of video tutorials: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Video_Tutorials
Zen Linden: we love ogre
Annelin Corrigible: I didn't try it myself
Brad Linden should get an ogre avatar
Annelin Corrigible: but everybody say they have shaders
Annelin Corrigible: dynamic shaders
Eirynne Sieyes: Ouuu good stuff!
Pastrami Linden: shaders or shadows?
Annelin Corrigible: shadows sorry
BigPapi Linden: I saw shadowing of avatars, but no general scene shadows.
BigPapi Linden: But that was from the videos.
Annelin Corrigible: ok
Pastrami Linden: [8:40] Keisha Ninetails: when are region/estate level sky and water presets going to be added to the region/estate settings?
Alexa Linden is Offline
Pastrami Linden: once we get the crash rate down and WL has been in release for a while
Keisha Ninetails: pfft
Keisha Ninetails: release or RC?
Pastrami Linden: release
Pastrami Linden: :)
Keisha Ninetails: oki
esf123 Sodwind is Offline
Zen Linden: headed to a doc appt. See y'all soon!
Keisha Ninetails: have fun
Zen Linden is Offline
Incredible Tomorrow: am not here
Logan Linden is Online
Pastrami Linden: queue empty
Keisha Ninetails: no it's not
Keisha Ninetails: c'mon, it's not like I'm asking for your phone number or anything
Pastrami Linden: [8:47] Keisha Ninetails: ok, what if I asked, which LSL functions for glow will be added? [8:47] Keisha Ninetails: AND, will it affect particles?
Pastrami Linden: BigPapi?
Pastrami Linden: or Brad
Pam Yumako: fi fi fi fi...
BigPapi Linden: No idea, I haven't seen that LSL code.
Brad Linden: hold on, looking...
Brad Linden: here's the draft release notes for that feature:
Brad Linden: New features and changes: * VWR-3114 : WindLight: Make glow scriptable added PRIM_GLOW flag for llGetPrimitiveParams, llSetPrimitiveParams, llSetLinkPrimitiveParams
Babbage Linden is Online
Keisha Ninetails: so no llSetGlow() or llGetGlow()?
Brad Linden: not at this time
Keisha Ninetails: oki
Pastrami Linden: alright all, as there are no more questions, I'm going to wind this down
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