Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2014-04-24

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[2014/04/24 15:00]  Rex Cronon: hi youruzur
[2014/04/24 15:00]  Rex Cronon: hi delphin
[2014/04/24 15:00]  Jenna Felton: that is weird efect
[2014/04/24 15:00]  Delphin Epsilon: Weeee! ^.^
[2014/04/24 15:00]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Hi guys
[2014/04/24 15:00]  Jenna Felton: and hello all who i not greeted :)
[2014/04/24 15:00]  Rex Cronon: yuzuru*
[2014/04/24 15:00]  Rex Cronon: hi jenna
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Rex Cronon: hi maestro
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Whirly Fizzle: Heya maestro
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Inara Breen: Hi, Maestro
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Delphin Epsilon: wb Maestro
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Delphin Epsilon: I brought cookies and milk for you to enjoy
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): installing.....brb
[2014/04/24 15:01]  MartinRJ Fayray: hello Maestro
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Delphin Epsilon: XD
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Whirly Fizzle: Maestro, we are all see a weird rendering glitchg here with ALM enabled.  We think it is your projected light
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): :D Japanese name is difficult to type..
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Maestro.
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Whirly Fizzle: Look at my 2 avies
[2014/04/24 15:01]  Whirly Fizzle: http://i.imgur.com/kPrWaPP.jpg
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): ghostly
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Whirly Fizzle: Only with ALM enabled
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Whirly Fizzle: At certain cam angles, my avies look semi transparent
[2014/04/24 15:02]  arton Rotaru: I don't see this
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Whirly Fizzle: Same on the group banz build and Firestorm
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Whirly Fizzle: Jenna & Nal see it too
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Simon Linden: Hi everyone
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Weird, I don't get that on my mac with ALM enabled
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Inara Breen: Not seeing it here.
[2014/04/24 15:02]  arton Rotaru: I'm on the interesting viewer
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Inara Breen: Hi, Simon.
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Rex Cronon: hi simon
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): (using the group ban viewer linked in the agenda)
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Whirly Fizzle: Whirls is on group Banz & Kippy on FS
[2014/04/24 15:02]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Whirly, Is it occurs on Linden Viewer?
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Whirly Fizzle: Yes
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): it's probably a platform/hardware dependent issue?
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Jenna Felton: no i dont see that Whirly
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Whirly Fizzle: Im on Second Life 3.7.7 (289496) Apr 24 2014 11:55:12 (Second Life Test)
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Simon Linden: If there's anyone here who is not a member of the groups "Group Chat Chat" or "Group Chat Test" .. please join them or send me an IM for an invite.    We're going to pound on them again
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Whirly.
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): same build on my machine, whirly
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Nal (nalates.urriah): I'm on Interesting...
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Rex Cronon: isn't it just shadows?
[2014/04/24 15:03]  Whirly Fizzle: You see it nal right?
[2014/04/24 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Okay, we do have an agenda:  https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Agenda
[2014/04/24 15:04]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Yes
[2014/04/24 15:04]  Delphin Epsilon: are we testing a group chat?
[2014/04/24 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): yes,
[2014/04/24 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): there are 3 main things going on today
[2014/04/24 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): 1) usual updates talk (should be quick)
[2014/04/24 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): 2) group chat test
[2014/04/24 15:04]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): 3) group ban test
[2014/04/24 15:05]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): group ban has an updated build for us to test with; I suppose we'll have an intermission so that people can switch to that viewer
[2014/04/24 15:05]  Delphin Epsilon: ok im down with that, I was trying to come early to ask if soemone could synch my beta grid account manually, I brought everyone cookies and milk :D
[2014/04/24 15:05]  Delphin Epsilon: I cant believe I broke my account
[2014/04/24 15:06]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Now I am downloading baker_viewer..
[2014/04/24 15:06]  Nal (nalates.urriah): When did you last change pw Delphin?
[2014/04/24 15:06]  Inara Breen: brb
[2014/04/24 15:06]  Delphin Epsilon: 4 days ago
[2014/04/24 15:06]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): There's a known issue as of late that the account-sync script isn't working, unfortunately
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): so changing your pw won't update your aditi account until that's fixed
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Delphin Epsilon: *nods*
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): anyway.. updates!
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Updates
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Jenna Felton: ah
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): there was only 1 update this week
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Nal (nalates.urriah): try your old password with the account that is locked out, it may let you in.
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Delphin Epsilon: thats why I wanted someone to update it manually
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Jenna Felton: thank you Maestro for update script info
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Delphin Epsilon: if possible
[2014/04/24 15:07]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Magnum was updated to fix the bug that we discovered with last week's maintenance RC
[2014/04/24 15:08]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): there was a regression in LSL scripts that look up the AGENT_MOUSELOOK flag with llGetAgentInfo()
[2014/04/24 15:08]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): if llGetAgentInfo() was called within a control() event, the mouselook flag would almost always be disabled, even if the user really was in mouselook
[2014/04/24 15:08]  Zenith Subchair final p: whispers: Hi Inara Breen! Touch me for Menu. Say /1a to Adjust.
[2014/04/24 15:08]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): fixing that bug was the only change since last week:  https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_Magnum#14.04.16.289178
[2014/04/24 15:09]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): So far I haven't heard of any issues, so I predict this project's changes will move to the other channels next week
[2014/04/24 15:10]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): .. that's all I have for updates - any questions or comments?
[2014/04/24 15:10]  Lucia Nightfire: I have an unrealted one, heh
[2014/04/24 15:10]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Any new RC's for next week?
[2014/04/24 15:10]  Lucia Nightfire: *unrelated
[2014/04/24 15:10]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Not that I know of, Nal
[2014/04/24 15:10]  Nal (nalates.urriah): K :)
[2014/04/24 15:11]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): are you ready for the group chat test, Simon?
[2014/04/24 15:11]  Lucia Nightfire: is there any work going on atm to address the stupid asset request blocking exploit that idiots have been abusing in the RC sandboxes this entire week?
[2014/04/24 15:12]  arton Rotaru: anything about the server side work about this MAINT-3531 Feature Request: LSL support for material texture maps
[2014/04/24 15:12]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): the one where a griefer object makes all other object rezzes in the region super slow (like 45min delay on rezzing)?
[2014/04/24 15:12]  Lucia Nightfire: no
[2014/04/24 15:12]  arton Rotaru: which appeared in the release viewvers notes
[2014/04/24 15:12]  adailtonz Allen: zlem
[2014/04/24 15:12]  Simon Linden: sorry I was just throwing a switch ... yes, the test is ready
[2014/04/24 15:13]  Lucia Nightfire: this is sim bombing, where a griefer on an illegal tpv goes from region to region for a few seconds at a time and activates an exploit taht prevents rezzing or attaching for several hours
[2014/04/24 15:13]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Huh, I'm not familiar with that work.  Simon, do you know about LSL support for materials changes being implemented?
[2014/04/24 15:13]  Lucia Nightfire: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SEC-1352
[2014/04/24 15:14]  Simon Linden: Other than I looked at it, and it seemed possible but harder than I expected ... no
[2014/04/24 15:14]  arton Rotaru: hm ok
[2014/04/24 15:14]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): i thoguht it was stated that LL wasnt going to add LSL functions for materials (at least not for a while yet)
[2014/04/24 15:14]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Oh, yes that's the same basic issue as I'd guessed, Lucia
[2014/04/24 15:15]  Lucia Nightfire: this allegedly is no longer an asset being rezzed that triggers the bug
[2014/04/24 15:15]  Lucia Nightfire: only takes 2 seconds to activate and break a sim
[2014/04/24 15:15]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): arton: I'm not even sure what a viewer change for an LSL function for material would entail, aside from maybe adding syntax highlighting for the new function..
[2014/04/24 15:16]  Lucia Nightfire: and then you can go to anotehr sim and repeated
[2014/04/24 15:16]  Simon Linden: It's been stated but people keep asking for materials functions, Tank
[2014/04/24 15:16]  Lucia Nightfire: theres several people thats been doing it with one primary idiot that has done it in most of the RC regions all this week everyday
[2014/04/24 15:16]  arton Rotaru: yeah, just wondered why it appeared at all in the release notes. so I guessed it would be implemented rather soon
[2014/04/24 15:16]  Simon Linden: Including some of our own builders :)
[2014/04/24 15:16]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Lucia: well, that's a drag.
[2014/04/24 15:17]  Whirly Fizzle: I think it was a mistake in the release notes
[2014/04/24 15:17]  Lucia Nightfire: so I take it the fix is out of reach, heh
[2014/04/24 15:17]  arton Rotaru: teasers :p
[2014/04/24 15:17]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): wishful thinking from an open source contributor? :)
[2014/04/24 15:17]  Whirly Fizzle: It was *your* release notes  :P
[2014/04/24 15:17]  Rex Cronon: another dench wannabe doing it?
[2014/04/24 15:18]  Lucia Nightfire: no, DEnch relies on rezzing
[2014/04/24 15:18]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): if you point us at the release notes, I can go about having that fixed/clarified, arton
[2014/04/24 15:18]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): er, at the URL
[2014/04/24 15:18]  arton Rotaru: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.7.6.289164
[2014/04/24 15:18]  Whirly Fizzle: o.O  MAINT-3531 Feature Request: LSL support for material texture maps
 [21/04/2014 22:03:24] Whirly Fizzle: Resolved on https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.7.6.289164
[2014/04/24 15:18]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): huh.  weird.
[2014/04/24 15:18]  arton Rotaru: yeah
[2014/04/24 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): whispers: that's a mistake for sure - thanks
[2014/04/24 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): !
[2014/04/24 15:19]  arton Rotaru: *sad face*
[2014/04/24 15:19]  Whirly Fizzle: You on a Mac Maestro?  ;)
[2014/04/24 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): right now, yes
[2014/04/24 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): I think I actually did hit ctrl+enter though
[2014/04/24 15:19]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): to whisper
[2014/04/24 15:19]  Whirly Fizzle: ahhh
[2014/04/24 15:22]  Simon Linden: ok ... for the group chat test, please chat to those groups a lot, and mix in some movement to other regions if you can as well
[2014/04/24 15:22]  Simon Linden: We'll run for a few minutes ... 3 or 4 should be enough
[2014/04/24 15:23]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): which groups?
[2014/04/24 15:23]  Simon Linden: Then I want to change 1 setting and do it again
[2014/04/24 15:23]  Rex Cronon: u know guys, if we had llChatTalk(uuid groupId, string message) it would be very easy to test group chat;)
[2014/04/24 15:23]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): secondlife:///app/group/19e6bef4-74bc-242c-e49f-94815cb3b494/about   secondlife:///app/group/fa943583-23f5-3242-da23-52024f1e05c4/about
[2014/04/24 15:23]  Simon Linden: Any you want, but "Group Chat CHat" and "Group Chat Test"
[2014/04/24 15:23]  Lucia Nightfire: can I bitch in long paragraphs about how sim bombing in those groups? heh
[2014/04/24 15:23]  Whirly Fizzle: lol
[2014/04/24 15:23]  Rex Cronon: u can spame it to death:)
[2014/04/24 15:24]  Simon Linden: sure, I won't be reading it all ...I hope it goes by too fast
[2014/04/24 15:25]  Lucia Nightfire: I'll take all taht as "We don't know how to prevent those guys from breaking all our sandboxes." heh
[2014/04/24 15:25]  Simon Linden: I'd like to look at that griefing method at some time, definitely
[2014/04/24 15:26]  Rex Cronon: just don't do it simon after ther servers start smoking;)
[2014/04/24 15:26]  Lucia Nightfire: I'd like a fix before they start bombing places of commerce more important than LL sandboxes. oh wait they have
[2014/04/24 15:28]  Rex Cronon: that much spamming ing group chat gives me lag
[2014/04/24 15:28]  adailtonz Allen: Playing Audio Publisher details 
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[2014/04/24 15:28]  adailtonz Allen: he audio peripheral doesn't appear to be plugged in. Check the connection. 
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[2014/04/24 15:29]  Caleb Linden: i got my viewer frozen for a moment
[2014/04/24 15:29]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): Spam eggs sausages and spam Spam eggs sausages and spam Spam eggs sausages and spam Spam eggs sausages and spam Spam eggs sausages and spam Spam eggs sausages and spam
[2014/04/24 15:29]  Lucia Nightfire: why is this in open chat and not group chat
[2014/04/24 15:29]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): so did mune
[2014/04/24 15:30]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Caleb, me too..
[2014/04/24 15:30]  Simon Linden: we've seen some pretty long lag pauses during these tests
[2014/04/24 15:30]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): because switching groups go the accidentaly
[2014/04/24 15:30]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): /me is watching his viewer log in case it pauses again
[2014/04/24 15:30]  Simon Linden: I believe they're viewer-side
[2014/04/24 15:31]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): yes, my UI was frozen (rendering was probably paused too)
[2014/04/24 15:31]  Rex Cronon: i think the lag happens if u connect or disconnect?
[2014/04/24 15:32]  Caleb Linden: yeah i was switching between the chat channels
[2014/04/24 15:32]  Nal (nalates.urriah): I get viewer freezes when I change to Group Chat Test. Screen went white once. Also takes several seconds for my chat to show in that geoup.
[2014/04/24 15:32]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): if freezes as it catches up?
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Nicky Perian: agree it pauses at reconnect to the test chat
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Delphin Epsilon: yea its pausing for me too
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Rex Cronon: could it be worse if u set your viewer to save chat logs?
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): same here
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Jenna Felton: when i try to open one of the group that is with new messages, i get paused. Until even windoows thinks the viewer not responded and whites it out
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Simon Linden: I'm guessing it 's taking a while to move a lot of the text around
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Nal (nalates.urriah): The chat scrolling up right side pasues too. But, my viewer feezes for 10-15 second s
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Delphin Epsilon: im logging here too
[2014/04/24 15:33]  Jenna Felton: and i almost crash
[2014/04/24 15:34]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): my guess is that the typesetting of all that text, profile icons, etc., is taking a lot of time
[2014/04/24 15:34]  Inara Breen: Getting noticeably longer lock-ups switching to "Group Chat Test" where there are some walls of text being pasted. - one the order of 10s of seconds
[2014/04/24 15:34]  Nal (nalates.urriah): 20+ second that time
[2014/04/24 15:34]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): I must go at RL..
[2014/04/24 15:34]  Inara Breen: At least that, Nal.
[2014/04/24 15:35]  Lucia Nightfire: group chat sessions haven't even opened for me, heh
[2014/04/24 15:35]  Rex Cronon: i wonder if it has something to do with the length of each message?
[2014/04/24 15:35]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): bye Yuzuru
[2014/04/24 15:35]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): sorry? :P
[2014/04/24 15:35]  Rex Cronon: tc yuzuru
[2014/04/24 15:35]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): 25 or so secods going to test
[2014/04/24 15:35]  Jenna Felton: take care Yuzuru
[2014/04/24 15:36]  Inara Breen: Much faster switching to "Group Chat Chat" - and no walls of text there
[2014/04/24 15:36]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): it's all tank's fau;lt
[2014/04/24 15:36]  Inara Breen: Generally is ... ;-)
[2014/04/24 15:36]  Nicky Perian: Detach the GroupChat Test to its own space and there is no delay
[2014/04/24 15:37]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Yeah, its tank...
[2014/04/24 15:38]  Simon Linden: ok thanks that's enough for now!
[2014/04/24 15:38]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): we probably generated enough load if it's stressing out the viewer :)
[2014/04/24 15:38]  Jenna Felton: /me closes that group chat sessions
[2014/04/24 15:39]  Simon Linden: yeah, I got logged off when I clicked over to the other tab and it locked up too long
[2014/04/24 15:39]  Whirly Fizzle: lol yeah. Helps to disable logging
[2014/04/24 15:39]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh I think Tank killed himself too Muahahahah
[2014/04/24 15:40]  Simon Linden: so based on purely objective opinion, it seemed messages were coming through fine, while the viewer coudl get very laggy if I switched between noisy group tabs
[2014/04/24 15:40]  Whirly Fizzle: I didnt notice any lag when my messages posted
[2014/04/24 15:40]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): no, switched comps
[2014/04/24 15:40]  Rex Cronon: weird. so people stopped and chat is still comming?
[2014/04/24 15:40]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): was on my tablet before
[2014/04/24 15:40]  MartinRJ Fayray: I deleted my log files twice during the test
[2014/04/24 15:41]  Simon Linden: Does that sound right, or did others feel messages were slow or dropped?
[2014/04/24 15:41]  MartinRJ Fayray: I think it worked fine
[2014/04/24 15:41]  Rex Cronon: slow
[2014/04/24 15:41]  Whirly Fizzle: Sounds right
[2014/04/24 15:41]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): on test it was slowed, about 5-10 secons
[2014/04/24 15:41]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): my messages kept repeating themselves
[2014/04/24 15:41]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): Pffffffff
[2014/04/24 15:41]  Simon Linden: /me stamps the code with the "Whirly Seal of Approval"
[2014/04/24 15:42]  Whirly Fizzle: SHIP IT!  :P
[2014/04/24 15:42]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): my tablet had a hard time keeping up with pasting everything :P
[2014/04/24 15:42]  Rex Cronon: its possible that messages got out of order
[2014/04/24 15:42]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): But given how slow I was responding that may jut be local
[2014/04/24 15:42]  Simon Linden: it's definitely possible for that to happen, Rex
[2014/04/24 15:42]  Caleb Linden: http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0003/523/MI0003523476.jpg of approval
[2014/04/24 15:43]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): /me is partial to the aquatic type
[2014/04/24 15:43]  Simon Linden: awesome, thank you everyone for your help
[2014/04/24 15:43]  Rex Cronon: is that weird string i found, still not being accepted by gorup chat?
[2014/04/24 15:44]  Rex Cronon: group chat*
[2014/04/24 15:44]  Simon Linden: That bug hasn't been fixed
[2014/04/24 15:44]  Simon Linden: The server is handling it more gracefully inside, but it's still not being passed through
[2014/04/24 15:44]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): fix it! :P
[2014/04/24 15:44]  MartinRJ Fayray: which one?
[2014/04/24 15:45]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Okay, so the other live test we have for today is group ban
[2014/04/24 15:45]  MartinRJ Fayray: ♫ <- this?
[2014/04/24 15:45]  Simon Linden: some utf characters won't get passed through group chat
[2014/04/24 15:45]  Rex Cronon: not that one. was something else
[2014/04/24 15:45]  Delphin Epsilon: are thease features not yet implemented into SL grid?
[2014/04/24 15:45]  Simon Linden: that seems ok, Martin
[2014/04/24 15:45]  Delphin Epsilon: o.o
[2014/04/24 15:45]  MartinRJ Fayray: In the test I didn't see this one ♫ until I closed and reopened the chat window
[2014/04/24 15:45]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): So baker, what's new in group ban?
[2014/04/24 15:45]  Baker Linden: WHAT UP SBUG HOWS EVERYONE FEELING TODAY YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[2014/04/24 15:46]  MartinRJ Fayray: so it loaded fine from the logs, but not directly from the chat
[2014/04/24 15:46]  Baker Linden: Maestro, you added a link for my new viewer, right?
[2014/04/24 15:46]  Baker Linden: I don't think much changed, other than me pulling in the recent viewer-release changes
[2014/04/24 15:46]  Whirly Fizzle: Its on the agenda yeah
[2014/04/24 15:46]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Yes Delphin, the group chat changes from Simon are not on the main grid yet.  In fact this version was deployed to Aditi just before this meeting.
[2014/04/24 15:46]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): yes
[2014/04/24 15:46]  Rex Cronon: hi baker
[2014/04/24 15:46]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/baker_viewer-voorhees-groupban/rev/289496/index.html  latest viewer
[2014/04/24 15:47]  Baker Linden: anyway, the big fix for this week was preventing banned agents from getting in the group through invitation
[2014/04/24 15:47]  Delphin Epsilon: wow cool :D
[2014/04/24 15:47]  Baker Linden: so go ahead and try to make that happen -- I dare ya
[2014/04/24 15:47]  Baker Linden: I DOUBLE DOG DARE YA OOOOOooooooooooooo
[2014/04/24 15:47]  Jenna Felton: what group to enter?
[2014/04/24 15:47]  Baker Linden: Anyway, the way to do this before I fixed the problem (I think) is that the banned agent could not be first in the list of invites
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Rex Cronon: what if a linden invites another linden:)
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Whirly Fizzle: secondlife:///app/group/1da92eac-fa03-1ea3-fe39-acffb058c90b/about
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): thanks, whirly
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Baker Linden: I believe jenna is banned from my group, if someone could delete her
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Whirly Fizzle: I did before
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Whirly Fizzle: & Lucia
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Lucia Nightfire: huh
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Lucia Nightfire: what I do?
[2014/04/24 15:48]  Jenna Felton: thank oyu Whirly
[2014/04/24 15:49]  Whirly Fizzle: Got banned  :D
[2014/04/24 15:49]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): was MAINT-3722 your last fix for GB?
[2014/04/24 15:49]  Rex Cronon: u r banned:)
[2014/04/24 15:49]  Baker Linden: so you *should* get a notice saying some people in your invite list are banned from the group and weren't sent an invite
[2014/04/24 15:49]  Lucia Nightfire: don't receall being group banned
[2014/04/24 15:49]  Lucia Nightfire: Baker did kick me out of his own personal group though, sad face
[2014/04/24 15:49]  Baker Linden: I've noticed this to be a pretty sporadic thing, but I don't think it's something I can easily fix -- the code showed that it was sending every time
[2014/04/24 15:49]  Baker Linden: it was only for testing Lucia! :) :)
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Lucia Nightfire: you did it while I was offline
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Baker Linden: I didn't want to hurt your feelings
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Lucia Nightfire: logged back in to get the eject 3 days later
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Baker Linden: lol
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Baker Linden: postponed sorrow! MY FAVORITE
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Jenna Felton: sometimes the message toasts not appear in Linden viewer and in Firestorm too
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Rex Cronon: so. what happens if all the members r banned?
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Tank, I don't know if that was the 'last' fix, but this viewer does have an untested fix for MAINT-3722 "Banning group member 'banned agents' tab does not eject them from the group"
[2014/04/24 15:50]  Baker Linden: Rex, in the list of people being invited?
[2014/04/24 15:51]  Lucia Nightfire: you can't ban yourself or an owner afaik
[2014/04/24 15:51]  Baker Linden: no invites should get sent then :)
[2014/04/24 15:51]  Baker Linden: correct, you can't ban owners or yourself
[2014/04/24 15:51]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): i see that, and then it looks like just a merge with viewer-release is all thats after that
[2014/04/24 15:51]  Rex Cronon: oh. u can't ban owner
[2014/04/24 15:51]  Baker Linden: yeah, the new build I didn't think had any chagnes -- this was a server-side change this week
[2014/04/24 15:51]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): ok
[2014/04/24 15:51]  Lucia Nightfire: but you can ban other officers, pray you never give that power to someone that goes rogue, lol
[2014/04/24 15:51]  Rex Cronon: if owners get a permaban from the grid?
[2014/04/24 15:52]  Baker Linden: Lucia, yeah, I know, but "With great power, comes great responsibility"
[2014/04/24 15:52]  Baker Linden: I'm hoping people don't give this power out willy-nilly
[2014/04/24 15:52]  Baker Linden: those groups are going to have a bad time
[2014/04/24 15:52]  Lucia Nightfire: owners banned from SL won't show up in the group until they're unbanned
[2014/04/24 15:52]  Baker Linden: Owners can't be banned
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Lucia Nightfire: same for any group member
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Lucia Nightfire: talkign abotu SL bans
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Baker Linden: ahh
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Whirly Fizzle: Hmm dont deleted SL accounts go missing from members list altogether?
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Lucia Nightfire: no
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Lucia Nightfire: if they are re-enstated they will be back in the group
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Whirly Fizzle: But they are still in the group.  Sometimes thats the reason groups cant be closed
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Lucia Nightfire: damn typing
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Simon Linden: I have to leave a little early ... thank you everyone for the help testing group chat.  I hope we can try that in production soon
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Yes, that's rather annoying
[2014/04/24 15:53]  MartinRJ Fayray: goodbye Simon
[2014/04/24 15:53]  Jenna Felton: the group founder should be able to set a prize, when the group owner is absent or banned or however not able to manage the group than paying that prize (the money goes to charity) lets the payed person to take over the group
[2014/04/24 15:54]  Rex Cronon: tc simon
[2014/04/24 15:54]  Baker Linden: whirly, there's a jira for that, right?
[2014/04/24 15:54]  Whirly Fizzle: Ya
[2014/04/24 15:54]  Jenna Felton: take care Simon, have nice weekend
[2014/04/24 15:54]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): have a good weekend, simon
[2014/04/24 15:55]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): I am back..
[2014/04/24 15:55]  Whirly Fizzle: Baker  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-5586
[2014/04/24 15:55]  Jenna Felton: wb Yuzuru
[2014/04/24 15:55]  Rex Cronon: wb
[2014/04/24 15:55]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Lindens.
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[2014/04/24 15:56]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): there are also issues such as wanting to parcel-ban or estate-ban users who have temporarily been disabled, and not being able to find those users in the people picker
[2014/04/24 15:56]  Lucia Nightfire: adailtonz Allen muted, nice profile pic btw
[2014/04/24 15:56]  Rex Cronon: why the wall of text adailtonz?
[2014/04/24 15:57]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): /me was wondering that the 2nd time, too
[2014/04/24 15:57]  Whirly Fizzle: huh some names dont show in avatar picker when they are logged in right next to you
[2014/04/24 15:57]  Whirly Fizzle: Def not disabled accounts
[2014/04/24 15:57]  Jenna Felton: cool, now this group will be forever available
[2014/04/24 15:57]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): well, yeah, there are some search issues for sure
[2014/04/24 15:57]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): certain people don't show up
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Baker Linden: possibly if you opt-out of being searchable
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Baker Linden: ?
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): anyway, we're just about out of time
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Whirly Fizzle: No this isnt search its avatar olicker
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Whirly Fizzle: *picker
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Baker Linden: :(
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Baker Linden: Well, I wonder if we don't use the same check for that
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Whirly Fizzle: Everyone should show in that or you cant ban them  :P
[2014/04/24 15:58]  Lucia Nightfire: reminds me, antispam is susceptible to mass text bombing when its broken up by byte count, that needs fixing, lol
[2014/04/24 15:59]  Rex Cronon: AFK...............................
[2014/04/24 15:59]  Rex Cronon: afk
[2014/04/24 15:59]  Baker Linden: it's just your basic avatar picker, I didn't know I needed one that was special :(
[2014/04/24 15:59]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Baker, did you have any last minute group ban test  in mind?
[2014/04/24 15:59]  Baker Linden: no, other than to try to find more bugs
[2014/04/24 16:00]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): OKay
[2014/04/24 16:00]  Whirly Fizzle: Baker, theres some examples in https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-2341
[2014/04/24 16:00]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): well, this region will continue to be on the group ban channel, in case anybody wants to try it later
[2014/04/24 16:01]  Baker Linden: yeah, you might see me and caleb in here too
[2014/04/24 16:01]  Baker Linden: ty whirly
[2014/04/24 16:01]  MartinRJ Fayray: goodbye everyone
[2014/04/24 16:01]  Whirly Fizzle: I think I should JIRA this rendering glitch here, its really weird
[2014/04/24 16:01]  rcdsQueChatLog: Rex Cronon, you can read the log here:
 http://rcds.nfshost.com/ques_view_chatLog.php?queOwner=llsl%3ARex+Cronon&queName=chatLog&pg=1
[2014/04/24 16:01]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): See you, Martin.
[2014/04/24 16:01]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): yeah that seems fair, whirly
[2014/04/24 16:01]  Rex Cronon: ok. i g2g. tc everybody and have a nice day:)
[2014/04/24 16:01]  Lucia Nightfire: the two that gripe my ass are the display name returns when you have display names off and the one where a full Resident name input cannot be found
[2014/04/24 16:01]  Jenna Felton: have nice weekend Martin
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Baker Linden: I have to go as well, have a fantastic weekend everyone!
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Jenna Felton: take care Rex
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): Me too - thanks for coming, everybody!
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Whirly Fizzle: Thanks Lindens
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Jenna Felton: And Baker, have great weekend
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Maestro.
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Lucia Nightfire: I have bombed sims to get back to
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Lucia Nightfire: have fun
[2014/04/24 16:02]  And all I got was this lousy DN (tankmaster.finesmith): have a good weekend everyone
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Nal (nalates.urriah): bye all
[2014/04/24 16:02]  Mæstro Linden (maestro.linden): you too