Doc Team/2010-02-17

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[13:00] Torley Linden: OH LOOK WHO CAME EARLY THIS IS QUITE A THRILL
[13:00] Jonathan Yap: Look out below
[13:00] Aargle Zymurgy: hey, Torley!
[13:00] Daniel Voyager: Hey Torley :D
[13:00] Jumpman Lane: hi
[13:01] Torley Linden: Why friendly greetings each and all! I was just revising some articles about Linden Home and figuring out better ways to explain "tier".
[13:01] Youri Ashton: hey torley
[13:01] Torley Linden: It's all rezzing in now...
[13:01] Torley Linden: I think Jeremy may be here soon as well... I hope!
[13:01] Jonathan Yap: Torley, I have a quick question--how quickly does someone review an updated wiki entry and "approve" it?
[13:01] Aargle Zymurgy: oh, hey, Torley.... I created an SL specific Filter Forge Filter.
[13:01] Torley Linden: Jonathan, should be pretty quick! Where is it?
[13:02] Torley Linden: Oh yeah Aargle? I'd like to see that, it's been awhile since I really dug into it!
[13:02] Jonathan Yap: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Rolling_restart
[13:02] Aargle Zymurgy: I need to find a way to upload it to their site, but it's the first thing I tried
[13:02] Youri Ashton: again alone torley?
[13:02] Aargle Zymurgy: it does a fake depth-of-field to captures in SL using the depth capture
[13:03] Torley Linden: Oh cool Jonathan, that's been an ongoing thread, figuring out how to best divide (yet keep cohesive) knowledge for newcomers and the more technically savvy.
[13:03] Torley Linden: Lemme edit this right now and then approve it, thanks for adding!
[13:03] Torley Linden: Aargle, I'd like to see that fer sure!
[13:03] Jonathan Yap: You're welcome, I thought people would like to see that
[13:04] Youri Ashton: hi sue!
[13:04] SuesseMaus Hotaling: Hi! ^-^
[13:04] SuesseMaus Hotaling whispers: xDD
[13:04] Torley Linden: Great use of the references thang; we tend to not use them in that format in the KB, unless there's a whole bunch... but duly noted!
[13:04] Torley Linden: Ohai!
[13:04] SuesseMaus Hotaling: this stool
[13:04] SuesseMaus Hotaling: i have also xDD
[13:05] Snip McMahn: **HI5!**
[13:05] Youri Ashton: yo bron
[13:05] Bronson Blackadder: hiya Youri :)
[13:06] SuesseMaus Hotaling: what is here xDD
[13:06] Bronson Blackadder: waiting for everyone to rez so I dont sit on someones head
[13:06] Bronson Blackadder: I dont wanna be anyones asshat
[13:06] Torley Linden: Eventually, Jonathan, we're going to have a more comprehensive glossary to link to, so we don't need to keep redefining terms. Common thang I know!
[13:06] Bronson Blackadder: Hiya Torley :)
[13:06] Jonathan Yap: Yes, I was a bit stumped about how to do the terms part
[13:07] SuesseMaus Hotaling: Hi! ^-^
[13:07] SuesseMaus Hotaling: torley xDD
[13:07] Youri Ashton: oh yeah torley, not enough progress in NDA stiff im into as i mentioned before, i am affraid i have to use a lot more time since im the only one in the team doing soemthing
[13:07] Torley Linden: Has everyone seen the Linden Homes launch? :D
[13:07] SuesseMaus Hotaling: what is NDA
[13:08] SuesseMaus Hotaling: xD
[13:08] Jonathan Yap: Non-Disclosure Agreement
[13:08] Youri Ashton: so no SLwiki stuff for a while on my part
[13:08] Richard Untermeyer: not delling anything
[13:08] Bronson Blackadder: No Dialog Allowed
[13:08] Chaley May: No, Dont Ask
[13:08] Jumpman Lane: yup sure did i wish theyhad linden hmes when i started
[13:08] Youri Ashton: only seen the launch trough your twitter messages torley, nothing else :p
[13:08] Jonathan Yap: Was there quite a number of people signing up for them?
[13:09] Youri Ashton: think M was mentioning also a bit about it
[13:09] Bronson Blackadder: my alt just got an email letting her know about the premium benefit she can get
[13:09] Torley Linden: Yeah I don't know what stats we'll show publicly but there was quite a leap in the charts!
[13:09] Bronson Blackadder: and luckily I have 512 freedup for it
[13:09] Torley Linden: Jonathan, edit live. I'm sure more changes can be done but it's in a good place for now — thanks again.
[13:10] Youri Ashton: just hope it will be less laggy then the previous area LL launched
[13:10] Youri Ashton: was in no time laggy
[13:10] Youri Ashton: laggy as in not being able to move or tp out
[13:10] Bronson Blackadder: I think teh server code has alot to do with that
[13:10] Arawn Spitteler tries to think: Burning Laugh '009?
[13:10] Chaley May: i forgot linden homes are launched today
[13:10] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: I haven't bothered to look. I've got a place, and it feels more mine than anything Linden Lab might offer.
[13:10] Torley Linden: I'm looking forward to see all the creative customizations... while skyboxes aren't allowed on Linden Homes there are still a lot of possibilities.
[13:11] Alexia Leborski: darn it...I just can't stop this animation!
[13:11] Alexia Leborski: I tried stoping it from World...but it won't stop
[13:11] Bronson Blackadder: alexia try sitting on something
[13:11] Alexia Leborski: LOL
[13:11] Youri Ashton: okay, something big tped in
[13:11] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:11] Jumpman Lane: lol
[13:11] Chaley May: i know people who allready have nice homes that want linden homes too just because they can have a second home :)
[13:11] Youri Ashton: ah! a birdie!
[13:11] Torley Linden: Sorry I can't reply to IMs at the moment, but if you can ask in the open, please do!
[13:12] Alexia Leborski: no...that doesn't work...looks like I am trying to put a fire out
[13:12] Youri Ashton: me cat you prey! :D
[13:12] Flenser Juergens: Been awhile since I've attended. Wanted to make sure I had time right.
[13:12] Torley Linden: Ooh that's good to know about, Chaley. It's a question that has come up as well, "Can I have a Linden Home if I have another house somewhere?"
[13:12] Bronson Blackadder: alexia .. to me you look normal animated
[13:12] Arawn Spitteler: Wear the StopAll Animations Red Rose, when you tp from a dance pole, or something.
[13:12] Torley Linden: So we have that in the FAQ.
[13:12] Bronson Blackadder: its probably an animation stuck in your viewer
[13:12] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:12] s probably just to laggy to see any animation
[13:12] Alexia Leborski: I'll just go over in the corner and will work on finding the file...so I don't bother all of you
[13:12] Torley Linden: Kate did the mass of the work on https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Linden Home and I'm going to keep updating it.
[13:12] Aargle Zymurgy gave you docmeeting.
[13:13] Arawn Spitteler: I don't see any animation
[13:13] Torley Linden: Ooh Aargyle, cool. I wonder if you can get Bokeh-like effects?
[13:13] Richard Untermeyer: no i don't either
[13:13] Aargle Zymurgy: Bokeh?
[13:13] Youri Ashton: "There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page. "
[13:13] Arawn Spitteler: Try World -> STop animating my avatar
[13:13] SuesseMaus Hotaling: ich sitze auf dem Stuhl
[13:14] s Google Translator: I sit on the chair
[13:14] Youri Ashton: not posted yet then torley
[13:14] Arawn Spitteler: It doesn't work for others, but we don't see your animjation
[13:14] Bronson Blackadder: steel?
[13:14] Torley Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Linden_Home <- FIXED LINK
[13:14] SuesseMaus Hotaling: chair
[13:14] SuesseMaus Hotaling: xDDD
[13:14] Torley Linden: There had to be an underscore!
[13:14] Alexia Leborski: I'lll be back
[13:14] SuesseMaus Hotaling: i sitting on chair xD
[13:14] Torley Linden: I didn't type that out, my fault.
[13:14] Braad Baxton: hello guys
[13:14] Torley Linden: Bokeh, like out-of-focus circles, hearts, stars, etc.
[13:14] Torley Linden: Hey Braad, you're very finely dressed today!
[13:14] Youri Ashton: that one does work :p
[13:14] Bronson Blackadder: I thought stuhl was steel
[13:14] Braad Baxton: than k you
[13:14] Aargle Zymurgy: oh, gotcha.
[13:14] Jumpman Lane: doenst work
[13:14] Braad Baxton: i was nosy
[13:15] Braad Baxton: to see you live and in colour
[13:15] Torley Linden: Well there you have it! In the pixel-flesh, mu ha ha ha!
[13:15] Braad Baxton: i learned a lot from you
[13:15] Braad Baxton: so ty for that
[13:15] Richard Untermeyer: stahl is steel
[13:15] Torley Linden: Oh delightful to hear that. How'd you first learn of my work, Braad? You're most welcome.
[13:15] Aargle Zymurgy: I'd have to think about that one a bit.... I just used Gaussian blur. I'm not yet sure how to do aperture simulations like that
[13:15] Braad Baxton: i guess over you tube :)
[13:15] Chaley May: I want Linden Sandboxes where only people with premium can access and leave some prims for as long as they like
[13:15] Torley Linden: More video tutorials are coming soon for 2.0... it's going into beta soon ya know so you can check it out firsthand!
[13:16] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: Just skimmed the blog announcement. You should have linked the first instance of "tier" to an explanation. Anyone who's used Wikipedia would expect that.
[13:16] Youri Ashton: thats discrimination charley, not smart to do
[13:16] Chaley May: its not
[13:16] Richard Untermeyer: Torley when exactly is it going into public beta?
[13:16] Arawn Spitteler: You want sandboxes that count against your parcel prim limit, when you haven't a parcel, yet?
[13:16] Braad Baxton: you make all easy understandable that is reall ynice
[13:16] Torley Linden: Chaley, "prims for as long as they like" sounds like it may get crowded... :O
[13:16] SuesseMaus Hotaling: HIIIIII-YAH!!!
[13:16] SuesseMaus Hotaling: kae
[13:16] SuesseMaus Hotaling: xD
[13:16] Bronson Blackadder: Serious Sandbox Vs Annoying Sandbox
[13:16] Torley Linden: Richard, can't announce that yet... =)
[13:16] s Google Translator: HIIIIII-YAH!
[13:16] Daniel Voyager: thats awesome Torley, i was wondering when you will be doing new video tutorials :D
[13:17] Chaley May: yes they count against your parcel limit
[13:17] Richard Untermeyer: ok Torley thanks
[13:17] Torley Linden: Daniel, yeah, recently I haven't done any because I was deep in various things like, well, writing Viewer 2 help. Ha ha.
[13:17] Arawn Spitteler: Have you fffiled a new feature jira?
[13:17] Daniel Voyager: np
[13:17] Elite Runner: Hi Torley!
[13:17] SuesseMaus Hotaling: *$*LoL *$*
[13:17] SuesseMaus Hotaling: lool
[13:17] Jumpman Lane: whens that due out torley
[13:17] Jumpman Lane: viewer two?
[13:17] Youri Ashton: lol, torley is making more work for me i see :p
[13:17] Jumpman Lane: i hear diff things
[13:17] Torley Linden: There is going to be this cool new help access feature I need to tell you all about, just about every window has a "?" you can click on for help. If you want to. More details to come and you can try it firsthand...
[13:17] Arawn Spitteler: Yesterday, I filed an AR on Governor Linden, rather than filing a ticket or a jira, where I'd been sinking into a bridge
[13:18] Torley Linden: Again, I can't comment on public Viewer 2.0 launch date. Stay tuned. =)
[13:18] Jumpman Lane: awesome
[13:18] Bronson Blackadder: Arawn taht should be a ticket to the LDPW
[13:18] Youri Ashton: hope that button wont be VERY active on the HUD torley
[13:18] Jumpman Lane: oh i thought the try it first hand was the when answer :(
[13:18] Daniel Voyager: can't wait till its launched
[13:18] Arawn Spitteler: SL2 came out last year, but is still under NDA, so the lindens can't be told about it
[13:18] Youri Ashton: need to look at the world, not get distracted by the HUD
[13:19] Torley Linden: So if you're trying out one of the new controls and you're like, "What the heck is this?!?", clicking "?" will tell you specifically what it's all about.
[13:19] Elite Runner gave you 2010 Rex.
[13:19] Youri Ashton: SL2 isnt out yet, and you know you are not suppost to talk about it arawn :)
[13:19] Youri Ashton: NDA = NDA
[13:19] Youri Ashton: means shush :p
[13:19] Elite Runner: Hi Torley
[13:19] Elite Runner gave you 2010 Butterfly Vendor.
[13:19] Jumpman Lane: will joysticks and or a game controller work on the new viewr?
[13:19] Arawn Spitteler: I was wondering a couple years ago, why we didn't have contextual help
[13:19] Jumpman Lane: they dont work so wellnow
[13:20] Aargle Zymurgy: I'm pretty sure it'll work with my 3D mouse.
[13:20] Aargle Zymurgy: it was lindens who talked me into buying one. :-D
[13:20] Torley Linden: It's been really exciting being able to test all the things day by day, a lot has happened and change. Lots of excitement at the LL offices, that's for sure.
[13:20] Youri Ashton: you dont wanna know what i seen so far from SL2, but i keep my promise tot he NDA
[13:20] Jonathan Yap: I see a button for joystick setup in Preferences / Input & Camera
[13:20] Youri Ashton: hey tillie :)
[13:20] Torley Linden: Hehe well with input support, it'll initially be the same as 1.23. Some controllers by virtue of their design work better than others. There's a wiki page for adding those experiences.
[13:20] Elite Runner: I was doing video production when I checked my watch and noticed it is 1PM SLT
[13:20] Tillie Ariantho: Hey :)
[13:20] Braad Baxton: i got to go was a pleasure to meet you ttyl :) tc byee
[13:20] Jumpman Lane: i tried tit with my logitech game thing and i just float off screen with it
[13:20] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: Torley, is SL2 is 64-bit only, I can't afford to be interested.
[13:21] Torley Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Flycam
[13:21] Torley Linden: No, WolfBaginski.
[13:21] Arawn Spitteler: SL2 has to work across platforms
[13:21] Youri Ashton: 64-bit??? 0o0o0o0o
[13:21] Aargle Zymurgy: get one of these: http://www.amazon.com/3Dconnexion-SpaceNavigator-3D-Navigation-3DX-700028/dp/B000LB7G00/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1266441681&sr=8-1
[13:21] Youri Ashton: its about time that happened!
[13:21] Elite Runner: Should it work with 32-bit also?
[13:21] Torley Linden: We've been unique in supporting multiple platforms for years. And yes like Aargle links to, I like my SpaceNavigator very much. (There are actually several variants, some with buttons!)
[13:21] Arawn Spitteler: I don't dare open windows, what's that page say?
[13:21] Torley Linden: (I mean, more buttons! Haha!)
[13:22] Youri Ashton: if its just 64bit,t hen no elite
[13:22] Bronson Blackadder: I want SL to work on my commodore 64 damnit
[13:22] Tillie Ariantho: Torley: and some of them suck greatly, as they are only usably left handed. :P
[13:22] Youri Ashton: your commedore will fry itself on it bron :p
[13:22] Chaley May: i allready have a space navigator
[13:22] Tillie Ariantho: usable
[13:22] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:22] Flenser Juergens: Here's hoping you'll remember us poor folks with older graphics cards. I had problems with Emerald rezzing alpha textures all of a sudden - I had to shoot Emerald and put it out of it's misery.
[13:22] Chaley May: using it at the moment
[13:22] Arawn Spitteler: You have a commodore 64, already? I've been working on my Timex, but have tried to do something with my Commodore 4
[13:22] Jonathan Yap: How about Second Life on an Apple IIC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAZHJa91JHk
[13:22] Elite Runner: will the SL2 come out in 32-bit and 64 bit and will it be Windows 7 compatible>
[13:23] Youri Ashton: you can always turn off options flenser
[13:23] Aargle Zymurgy: I've still got an Amiga. I wonder what it could handle
[13:23] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: Having to use virtual memory on cassette tape sucks.
[13:23] Youri Ashton: as torley said: only 64-bit
[13:23] Youri Ashton: hey x
[13:23] Bronson Blackadder: it would be great if it ran on my LightBright
[13:23] Arawn Spitteler hopes SL2 won't require a graphics card.
[13:23] Tillie Ariantho: I think Elite means: will win7 OFFICIALLY get supported, it's not for now, I think.
[13:23] Youri Ashton: no voice here xstorm, you have to type :p
[13:23] xstorm Radek: OMG!!
[13:23] Torley Linden: As for other Second Life Viewer 2.0 questions I don't have the answers to or can't share yet, keep checking http://blogs.secondlife.com
[13:23] Bronson Blackadder: its working right now on my Win7
[13:23] Torley Linden: I didn't say that, Youri.
[13:23] Youri Ashton: move those fingers storm! :D
[13:24] SuesseMaus Hotaling: card?
[13:24] xstorm Radek: do not look at me
[13:24] SuesseMaus Hotaling: i have good card xD
[13:24] Elite Runner: ok I will check the SL blog
[13:24] xstorm Radek: im in my rat form
[13:24] Tillie Ariantho: Bronson: sure it is working, but if you have trouble, you dont get support yet. ^^
[13:24] Flenser Juergens: Emerald got so messed up, it was unusable. Aparently stores information in registry because reinstalls wouldn't work to clear it.
[13:24] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:24] Youri Ashton: oh yeah, my mistake torley. misread
[13:24] Bronson Blackadder: good ol XP
[13:24] Alexia Leborski: Whew
[13:24] SuesseMaus Hotaling: i buy all 3 year new grafic card
[13:25] SuesseMaus Hotaling: xD
[13:25] Flenser Juergens nods and hugs his old XP.
[13:25] Elite Runner: Torley, when will you do the next video tutorial?
[13:25] Jonathan Yap: Flenser, did you clear out the files somewhere down below "Documents and Settings"?
[13:25] Tillie Ariantho: SuesseMaus: better buy no ATI right now, OpenGL support just sucks.
[13:25] SuesseMaus Hotaling: SuesseMaus's Google Translator: Too many HTTP requests too fast.
[13:25] SuesseMaus Hotaling: omg xD
[13:25] s Google Translator: omg xD
[13:25] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: /my banks says they only "support" ancient versions of Internet Expolorer, and Netscape Navigator, for Internet Banking. Great escape clause if anything goes wrong. "supports" is one of the all time great IT weasel words.
[13:26] Alexia Leborski: Sorry, Candace...you just rezzed in...I'll sit somewhere else
[13:26] Torley Linden: Elite, I've already started. Hehe. Delivery to be determined when 2.0 comes out!
[13:26] Flenser Juergens: Did a fun uninstall and deleted the cache directory on 2nd drive.
[13:26] Candace Flossberg: no problem
[13:26] Daniel Voyager: Torley, do you know when there will be new skins to choose in the preferences menu or is that at a standstill now?
[13:26] Elite Runner: ok
[13:26] Elite Runner: Thx Torley
[13:26] Flenser Juergens: full
[13:26] Jonathan Yap: Flenser, clear out those settings files too
[13:26] Torley Linden: I can't comment on that Daniel until that's public, sorry. :)
[13:26] Bronson Blackadder: internet exploder nutscrape navigator
[13:26] Daniel Voyager: Awww man.
[13:26] xstorm Radek: Torley Linden did you know there is now another police group in second life yet again offering to protect sim owners yet again from griefers ?
[13:26] Tillie Ariantho: Ah, I guess it is an all-noob-how-to-get-into-sl-quickly-and-become-rich-in-a-week introduction? ,)
[13:26] Jumpman Lane: lol
[13:27] Torley Linden: xstorm, they tend to come in plurals, someone always wants to be INTERNET TOUGH GUY NO. 1.
[13:27] Elite Runner: OK I better get going
[13:27] Tillie Ariantho: xstorm: there is? Do you have names so I can ban them? :P
[13:27] Bronson Blackadder: yay JLU
[13:27] Elite Runner: and continue with the video production
[13:27] Aargle Zymurgy: Tillie, that was ME. :-)
[13:27] Torley Linden: Thanks Elite for the goodies!
[13:27] Tillie Ariantho: Aargle: thanks for your name, Aargle. :P
[13:27] Elite Runner: Bye Torley! Bye everyone!
[13:28] Jumpman Lane: cya
[13:28] Richard Untermeyer: bye elite
[13:28] Tillie Ariantho: Aargle: joking. ^^
[13:28] Torley Linden: We don't have a shortage of cool names in SL, that's for sure.
[13:28] Flenser Juergens: Take care.
[13:28] Youri Ashton: there are a lot of those xstorm
[13:28] xstorm Radek: do i have to start filing abuse reports and logs on another police group ?
[13:28] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: Toirley, serious documentation question, about supported software.
[13:28] Jumpman Lane: i wish i'd thought of Coke Supply
[13:28] Youri Ashton: all try to get in as much money in as they can
[13:28] Jumpman Lane: only name im jealous of
[13:28] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:28] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:28] Youri Ashton: the ones that dont, try to grief the griefers
[13:29] Torley Linden: What's it, WolfBaginski? :)
[13:29] Alexia Leborski: The griefers are probably concerned about Digital Rights, correct? If I am following this right? I saw a few blogs on that yesterday
[13:29] SuesseMaus Hotaling: what is this english ore what?
[13:29] Youri Ashton: think you should xstorm, so far i know its against ToS... but... think Torley is better to answer that
[13:29] SuesseMaus Hotaling: xDD
[13:30] xstorm Radek: why is it they think a fake police group can just drop notecards on sim owners and they get admin powers to run a sim
[13:30] Chaley May: just told my friend about the linden homes 5 minutes later shes got one allready :)
[13:30] Youri Ashton: they cant
[13:30] Youri Ashton: that is illigal
[13:30] Torley Linden: It is definitely against the ToS to *impersonate* a Linden.
[13:30] Arawn Spitteler: Some really stupid people have money to invest badly
[13:30] Jumpman Lane: well what about defamation
[13:30] Torley Linden: Roleplaying as police, as long as you don't pretend to have authority you don't actually have, is fine (unless it otherwise breaks the Community Standards).
[13:30] Flenser Juergens: I'm very paranoid of people wanting to have any kind of control.
[13:30] Youri Ashton: not just that torley, dropping notecards on random people isnt allowed by the ToS either
[13:30] Escape Unplugged: They're called "bankers" Arawn :)
[13:30] Jumpman Lane: im currently getting DEE FAMED
[13:31] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: Browser support for the web pages. You apparently have to go digging of software providers websites to find out. Opera is flaket, can make comments some places and not others, but it seems the people who wrote the blog/forum system don't support it. Hard to find out, maybe topo hard.
[13:31] Youri Ashton: unless they have permission of that person of course
[13:31] Aargle Zymurgy: I've been meaning to write something on how not to get scammed in SL
[13:31] Torley Linden: But, I am not a lawyer, so I suggest consulting a real attorney should the need arise.
[13:31] Object does not appear to be for sale.
[13:31] Youri Ashton: so 2 rules broken already then, guess you have all rights to start filling in AR reports xstorm :p
[13:32] Torley Linden: WolfBaginski, here's the deal with blogs.secondlife.com. It runs on Clearspace. Supported browsers are listed @ http://www.jivesoftware.com/docs/clearspace/beta/ClearspaceApplicationArchitecture.html
[13:32] Jumpman Lane: well where is the gteam torley they never seem to meet anymore?
[13:32] Arawn Spitteler: They didn't think a court of appeals office hour was scalable
[13:32] Torley Linden: We and other Clearspace customers (intriguing to think of LL as a customer too, eh?) have requested support for other browsers.
[13:32] xstorm Radek: after all the year i have been doing abuse reports on griefers if i do not know what to do by now i never will know lol
[13:32] Youri Ashton: g-tema is usually around Linden Owned sims kicking off griefers lately
[13:32] Arawn Spitteler: Ask Michael Linden at 3PM
[13:32] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:32] Torley Linden: Jumpman, G-Team merged into RESI Team awhile ago.
[13:32] Aargle Zymurgy: Jumpman, they've mostly closed meetings and they hinted to me they weren't going to do them anymore.
[13:33] Aargle Zymurgy: RESI team? hm....
[13:33] Aargle Zymurgy: have to got to those again.
[13:33] Youri Ashton: if you fill ina AR around this are for example,t hen you hav ea Linden within 5 to 10 mins
[13:33] Arawn Spitteler: What's the Resi Team?
[13:33] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: Toyley, that's the answer I got. Remember, I'm a Linden Lab customer. Not a Clearspace customer.
[13:33] Torley Linden: The problem with bringing up controversial issues is they're hard to discuss practically and get some sort of actionable, useful moves going forward. "OMG WHY DID YOU BAN MY BROTHER?!?!!" comes up too much for all the wrong reasons.
[13:33] Youri Ashton: resident team
[13:33] Jumpman Lane: i remeber that but they are still referenced as the gteam at times
[13:33] xstorm Radek: 5 to 10 min ??? we have had them faster then that
[13:33] Arawn Spitteler: I filed an AR yesterday, and had to leave almost immediately for a Sim Restart
[13:33] Jumpman Lane: joppa's one right
[13:33] Torley Linden: WolfBaginski, aye, so we're going to continue urging Clearspace on this and other feature requests we have. Some of their staff have been quite helpful to me.
[13:34] Youri Ashton: Harry Linden still in that team Torley?
[13:34] Aargle Zymurgy: LOL>.. yeah, the g-team meetings often had the guests jumping in the case of someone who came to fuss about something specific.
[13:34] Torley Linden: I don't know, Youri. Ask Harry? =)
[13:34] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:34] xstorm Radek: the linden lab workers are the best people in second life
[13:34] Aargle Zymurgy: he was as of 9 months ago
[13:34] Torley Linden: Even with the warnings on my contact form, I seriously get a lot of inappropriate stuff I just can't help with.
[13:35] Torley Linden: Some people don't bother to read or be civil, but you can benefit others by listening to the ones who do. :)
[13:35] Aargle Zymurgy: yah, speaking of that... can you move my xstreet terminal for me? j/k
[13:35] Arawn Spitteler: Incorporate yourself, Torley, and have some secretaries deal with your input
[13:35] xstorm Radek: well hold on there is one linden that sent my on a wild chase for fairys lol
[13:35] Torley Linden: Ha ha, if I get an assistant, the same thing that happened to Abby Sciuto is gonna happen to me.
[13:35] xstorm Radek: thank you Torley your blogs are a hit
[13:36] Youri Ashton: well i ask because he isnt doig his job as g-team (resi team) propperly, random banning people for even a minor offence. besides that not really handy in contact with residents at all either. could use a lesson in "how to behave towards other human beings". sorry to say
[13:36] Arawn Spitteler: Abby Sciotu?
[13:36] Jumpman Lane: well i like the more personal touch u know im a linden and get results
[13:36] Jumpman Lane: though i dont mind wrtin ars and support tickects
[13:36] Jumpman Lane: theyanswer those pretty fast
[13:36] Torley Linden: Youri, I can't comment on unfounded speculation without evidence like that.
[13:36] Jumpman Lane: i just need toknow which linden to smooze
[13:37] Jumpman Lane: lol
[13:37] Aargle Zymurgy: hm.... if you're meaning Harry, Youri, my last meeting with Harry was lengthy and sensible. I'm not sure he's that way
[13:37] Jumpman Lane: never had a prob with harry he answered fast enough
[13:37] Aargle Zymurgy: a little brusque, I suppose, but I'm used to dealing with lawyers.
[13:37] Torley Linden: The last Linden who took bribes was fed to the hippos! ;)
[13:37] Jumpman Lane: but where;s zara
[13:37] Jumpman Lane: oh i dotn PAY em
[13:37] Aargle Zymurgy: making films, jumpman
[13:37] Arawn Spitteler: Given his duties, he might roller coaster, a bit. G-Team is high burnout city, like Accounts.
[13:37] Jumpman Lane: i smooze em
[13:37] Torley Linden: Never said ya did, Jumpman. ;)
[13:38] Jumpman Lane: im cheap
[13:38] Bronson Blackadder: I would love dearly to see people file ARs about serious things and less petty crap
[13:38] Jumpman Lane: lol
[13:38] Youri Ashton: he banned me almost just for making a minor mistake, was trying to help out in filling in a AR report, the next i know i received a message of ME being under investigation!
[13:38] Aargle Zymurgy: and, sadly, I missed her visiting at xmas
[13:38] Ema Whitfield: like fivel cheap
[13:38] Jumpman Lane: i mean though well are any open to monies?
[13:38] Torley Linden: There are over 400 Lindens (I think) now.
[13:38] xstorm Radek: NOT the HIPPOS NO NOOOO
[13:38] Jumpman Lane: shhhhh ema
[13:38] Youri Ashton: when i IMed him he started to say things like "if you dont stop IMing me i will ban you"
[13:39] Torley Linden: http://epicwinftw.com/2010/02/14/epic-win-photos-feel-the-power/ (Don Linden sent this my way)
[13:39] xstorm Radek: there are over 400 lindens
[13:39] Richard Untermeyer: does everyone who works for LL have a Linden account? Cleaners?
[13:39] Bronson Blackadder: harry? that bastard! gasp
[13:39] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:39] xstorm Radek: ooopppsssss
[13:39] Jumpman Lane: i gt suspended sayin linden lab was hiring janitors once in 07 lol
[13:39] Aargle Zymurgy: dig out and old translater and find out there are over 400 lime trees. :-)
[13:39] Jumpman Lane: on the forums
[13:39] Torley Linden: Richard, we have contractors and not everyone comes inworld for the same duration. But anyone who's qualified and *needs* a Linden account to do their job gets one.
[13:39] xstorm Radek: not that i know how many lindens there is now in any way
[13:39] Youri Ashton: treatening isnt allowed in ToS i read... so i wonder...
[13:39] Torley Linden: Or in my case, I have multiples, but I really gotta have that for filming videos. :)
[13:39] Arawn Spitteler: I thnk the cleaners would be contractors, but I don't know about Server Maintenance
[13:39] Tillie Ariantho: Pleaaaaaase can someone make the Chat error windows non modal chat messages? Those suck greatly...
[13:40] Richard Untermeyer: i see Torley :-)
[13:40] Aargle Zymurgy: THERE's a scary thought: Aargle Linden :-D
[13:40] Torley Linden: Some "Linden" accounts in the list are group accounts or bots.
[13:40] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot imagines a Linden walking in and asking, "Can I do you now, sir>" (Ancient BBC Radion reference)
[13:40] Torley Linden: Hahahaha.
[13:40] Richard Untermeyer: right Arawn, ty
[13:40] Youri Ashton: also test accounts Torley, you forgot those :p
[13:40] SuesseMaus Hotaling: i will foto
[13:40] SuesseMaus Hotaling: xDD
[13:40] s Google Translator: i will photo
[13:40] Youri Ashton: Torley Tester for example :p
[13:40] xstorm Radek: there is about 7 non linden account bots
[13:40] Jumpman Lane: some one told me once there were linde lab employees you couldnt DRAG in world
[13:40] Torley Linden: Oh yeah, Torley Tester, that bastard.
[13:40] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:40] Aargle Zymurgy: I thought once of sending in a resume for a programming position, but I think there's be too much conflict of interest now
[13:41] Youri Ashton: he stole your watermelon torley!
[13:41] Jonathan Yap: He just wanted to test it. :)
[13:41] Torley Linden: I once started a Neanderthal tester account and then he went around trying to wack people over the head with a club.
[13:41] xstorm Radek: if you count ones like refund s and bucket
[13:41] Arawn Spitteler should brush up on Python and something else, so he can be a linden dev
[13:41] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:41] Youri Ashton: you shoudl try to do so again torley :p
[13:41] Escape Unplugged: As if there aren't too many clubs in SL alread......
[13:41] Youri Ashton: would be funny
[13:41] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:41] Bronson Blackadder: clubs
[13:41] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:42] Torley Linden: But really, there's so much going on each and every day... earlier today was crazy for me, I was bouncing from one thing to another. I prefer focus with a given topic, get it done, move onto another.
[13:42] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: Pthon? And now for something completely different?
[13:42] Torley Linden: Like when I'm inworld exploring I don't want to be distracted by editing documents so I make notes, at most, but otherwise, pure immersion is treasured.
[13:42] xstorm Radek: i think boston linden may be a fake too
[13:42] Torley Linden: Big Terry Gilliam fan here!
[13:42] Bronson Blackadder: yeah!!
[13:42] Aargle Zymurgy: yes!
[13:42] Jumpman Lane: and Blondin HAS to be a bot or a shared account lol
[13:43] Torley Linden: Haha, Boston Linden belongs to someone, it's kinda obvious if you've been in touch.
[13:43] Youri Ashton: there are a lot of lindens that are real but are as silent as a bot as well
[13:43] Escape Unplugged: Terry Gilliam? He's just a Patsy ;)
[13:43] Youri Ashton: so hard to see who is real and who aint
[13:43] Jumpman Lane: his locutions change
[13:43] Torley Linden: Blondintron 3000? Hehe, he has the best eyebrow moves.
[13:43] Aargle Zymurgy: I actually have the whole MP tv show on DVD. I think I lost my sanity about then.
[13:43] Jumpman Lane: lol
[13:43] xstorm Radek: i wish blondin linden was a bot i have less problems lol
[13:43] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:43] Jumpman Lane: more like the Blonditron 1000
[13:43] Bronson Blackadder: apparently I known Blondin along time
[13:44] Bronson Blackadder: so I heard
[13:44] Jumpman Lane: but i like that hat hehas
[13:44] Jumpman Lane: as a resident?
[13:44] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: My RL Great Uncle was James Bond.
[13:44] Youri Ashton: blondin is a nice guy, but keeps forgetting to do things... *thinks blondin needs a new notepad and a new pen*
[13:44] xstorm Radek: lol
[13:44] Jumpman Lane: why i think they share him lol
[13:44] Arawn Spitteler: Oh, that's just Blondin; you might be looking for Brunnettin
[13:44] Jumpman Lane: he'll forget something for like a month thenremeber
[13:45] Torley Linden: You guys crack me up.
[13:45] xstorm Radek: Torley what ever happen to wilder linden ?
[13:45] Arawn Spitteler: No Jon nor Jeremy, today?
[13:45] Escape Unplugged: He got tamed?
[13:45] Jumpman Lane: you guys should chip in and get him an ipad or something for his bday lmao
[13:45] Youri Ashton: hey, i got asperger syndrome as well torley, i know how to make fun ^_^
[13:45] Aargle Zymurgy: SL for the iPad! yay!
[13:45] Bronson Blackadder: Torley gets to bask in all this glory by himself today
[13:45] Elite Runner: Torley. It's me again. May I have a Linden bear, pleasr?
[13:45] Torley Linden: She's not with the company anymore but I can't mention specifics, xstorm. For respectful-of-privacy reasons we let individual Lindens explain their arrivals and departures if they so choose.
[13:46] Elite Runner: *please?
[13:46] Torley Linden: Jon and Jeremy and Kate are all occupied elsewhere, so you're stuck with watermelon me, I'm afraid.
[13:46] Torley Linden: Yes Elite!
[13:46] Aargle Zymurgy: I just notice I have Walker Linden in my friends list, but no bear for him. I think he's long gone, too
[13:46] xstorm Radek: its a shame i miss wilder linden
[13:46] Bronson Blackadder: linden bear pleasure
[13:46] Youri Ashton: got a lot of lindens in my list
[13:46] Escape Unplugged: Carnivale-ready Watermelon though....
[13:46] Youri Ashton: even Philip
[13:46] Elite Runner accepted your inventory offer.
[13:46] Torley Linden: I worked with Wilder on some of the Help Island stuff when that was new. :)
[13:46] Arawn Spitteler: Is Wilder Bear still available at Help Island?
[13:47] Entering god mode, level 200
[13:47] Elite Runner: thank you torley@!
[13:47] xstorm Radek: no
[13:47] Torley Linden: ^_^
[13:47] Elite Runner: See ya
[13:47] Youri Ashton: bye elite :)
[13:47] Youri Ashton: have fun!
[13:47] Jumpman Lane: say torley can i have a linden bear ive got at least 20 and didnt think i'd ever get urs :)
[13:47] Jumpman Lane: lol
[13:48] Jumpman Lane accepted your inventory offer.
[13:48] Torley Linden: Sure thang!
[13:48] Arawn Spitteler: Is Torley's legal, yet?
[13:48] Jumpman Lane accepted your inventory offer.
[13:48] Youri Ashton: got over 160 linden bears
[13:48] Patience LittleBoots: ooo glad i moved off the carpet
[13:48] Jumpman Lane: ive been using ur textures for years lol
[13:48] Jumpman Lane: gotthose
[13:48] Torley Linden: Kewl.
[13:48] Jumpman Lane: baab marble the most universally useful
[13:48] Youri Ashton: hey tech
[13:49] Jumpman Lane: oh these have been updated
[13:49] Techwolf Lupindo: Hi all
[13:49] Torley Linden: Why hello!
[13:49] Jumpman Lane: i got wilder lol
[13:49] Jumpman Lane: but thanx xstorm
[13:49] Bronson Blackadder: wilder? your outta control
[13:50] Bronson Blackadder: thanks X :)
[13:50] Arawn Spitteler: Wilder Bear is a HUD?
[13:50] Aargle Zymurgy: oh, Torley, I almost forgot the reason I brought up that FF depth of field thing..... the effect can be done manually in photoshop. I didn't know if that's the sort of thing you like to illustrate in videos
[13:50] xstorm Radek: hope not
[13:50] Bronson Blackadder: lol Im wearing it as a hud
[13:50] xstorm Radek: thats odd
[13:50] Bronson Blackadder: looks hilarious
[13:50] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:51] xstorm Radek: old bugy days of sl
[13:51] Youri Ashton: sl still is buggy xstorm :p
[13:51] Youri Ashton: difference is there mostly new bugs :p
[13:51] Arawn Spitteler happily humms to himself: Buggy Daze are hear again...
[13:51] SuesseMaus Hotaling: loooool
[13:51] Torley Linden: Aargle, on occasion I do, depends on the specific topic. Some creative techniques, such as retaining a 3D feel in a 2D photograph, I treasure quite a bit.
[13:51] Torley Linden: SuesseMaus I gotta say that's a pretty awesome head.
[13:51] xstorm Radek: Torley will olive ever get a linden lab sandbox again ?
[13:51] SuesseMaus Hotaling: i can not open im xD
[13:51] Jonathan Yap: Buggy Daze would make a great name
[13:52] Bronson Blackadder: oh god for photography in SL I would LOVE to see blur in teh background
[13:52] Torley Linden: I haven't been to Olive in ages, I don't know.
[13:52] Bronson Blackadder: but that would probably be in viewer 4.0
[13:52] SuesseMaus Hotaling: loool torley i cut this pic and send you then xDD
[13:52] Arawn Spitteler: The Particle Laboratory practically reaches to Teal, now
[13:52] Tillie Ariantho: Bronson: new Photoshop CS5 is said to have that... you point to whats in front and it blurs all else automatically.. ^^
[13:52] SuesseMaus Hotaling: thats very sweet xD
[13:53] Bronson Blackadder: aw crap I only have 5.5
[13:53] SuesseMaus Hotaling: i make with gimp xD
[13:53] Torley Linden: The original Photoshop evangelist and video tutorial pioneer, Russell Brown, is one of my heroes.
[13:53] Tillie Ariantho: ^^
[13:53] Torley Linden: (I actually got my copy of Photoshop from him!)
[13:53] xstorm Radek: Torley it be nice to see one there again it be like a step back in history
[13:53] Patience LittleBoots: ciao Torley ~ its been interestin :)~
[13:53] Torley Linden: Thanks Patience!
[13:53] Torley Linden: OH MY GOSH LITTLE BOOTS IS A LAST NAME
[13:53] Tillie Ariantho: Russel Brown, isn't that this darker skinned guy doing all those video tutorials for PS etc.? :)
[13:53] Torley Linden: WHERE HAVE I BEEN FOR THE LOVE OF VICTORIA HESKETH
[13:54] xstorm Radek: lol
[13:54] Torley Linden: Tillie, I think that's Terry White!
[13:54] Niky Zenovka waves
[13:54] Tillie Ariantho: Ah true!
[13:54] Arawn Spitteler: Little Boots, isn't that Engliish for Caligula?
[13:54] Richard Untermeyer: little boots!
[13:54] Bronson Blackadder: god this would look awesome inworld if teh back ground would blur when you are focused on something near
[13:54] xstorm Radek: ha ha ha ha ha
[13:54] Jumpman Lane: yup there is a Jumpman Littleboots lmao
[13:54] Tillie Ariantho: Russel Brown, Terry White, I always mix up those names, they are DAMN similar. :P
[13:54] Jumpman Lane: but not me
[13:54] Jonathan Yap: Torley, you can have some fun browsing in http://www.slnamewatch.com/
[13:54] Torley Linden: Tillie, haha, they'd be quite the tag team.
[13:54] Torley Linden: Last time I was there, Jonathan, I think GossipGirl was overwhelming.
[13:54] Torley Linden: *looks now*
[13:54] Tillie Ariantho: ,D
[13:54] Youri Ashton: lol, yeah fun link indeed
[13:54] Torley Linden: Brown & White. Reminds me of, oh, what was that, Reservoir Dogs.
[13:55] Torley Linden: The movie that made ears interesting!
[13:55] Jumpman Lane: what happend to all the Babii's
[13:55] Tillie Ariantho: Littleboots is for the Tinies and Gnomes. :)
[13:55] Torley Linden: Frak nothing's ever gonna beat GosspGirl as # last name I think. Hahaha.
[13:55] Jumpman Lane: u never see any nowdays
[13:55] Aargle Zymurgy: I swear Slade was the name to use a couple years back
[13:55] xstorm Radek: OMG!! no no not GossipGirls any thing but that them poor poor people
[13:55] Aargle Zymurgy: I have gobs of those in my friend list
[13:55] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:55] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: I'm still try9ing to get over there being a Blackadder.
[13:56] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:56] Torley Linden: RowanAtkinson Blackadder hahaha.
[13:56] Torley Linden: Oh we do have Bronson here, har har!
[13:56] Tillie Ariantho: "Oh" as lastname isnt that bad either. :P With first name "Uh". ,)
[13:56] Jonathan Yap: There are 163,000 GossipGirls and the next in the list is 28,000 Cores
[13:56] Bronson Blackadder: I love Mr Bean
[13:56] Torley Linden: I like how slnamewatch is organized like the Drudge Report.
[13:56] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:56] xstorm Radek: i can tell you every thing that happen to that poor gossipgirl group in second life
[13:56] Jumpman Lane: saveme oh lol
[13:56] Aargle Zymurgy: well, I see that's down as "usage"
[13:56] s worried he might find his password as a lastname
[13:56] xstorm Radek: it is a damn shame
[13:56] Chaley May: i own a Core :)
[13:56] Jumpman Lane: i liked Jumpman Landesberg lol
[13:57] Tillie Ariantho: Arawn: Password as lastname, first name "Lostmy"? ,)
[13:57] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:57] Jumpman Lane: it always cracked me up i unno why
[13:57] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:57] Aargle Zymurgy: yeah, I've got a Core, too. it was the closest I could come to making Stanley Clark... had to use Stanley Core
[13:57] Torley Linden: Password is a dangerous last name, it could be used to grief in so many ways. Alas.
[13:57] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: I'm waiting for Cholmondely and Featherstonehaugh to be available.
[13:57] Chaley May: CPU Core :)
[13:57] Torley Linden: "ImALindenSoGiveMeYour Password"
[13:57] Derek Galaxy: hello everyone, i thought i would visit even if im really late :(
[13:57] xstorm Radek: over 1000 gossipgirl members in the end got dump with no place to call home
[13:57] Torley Linden: Why hello Derek I'm glad you could make it anyway! =)
[13:57] Bronson Blackadder: pleaseenter password
[13:58] Tillie Ariantho: Wrong Password. :P
[13:58] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[13:58] Arawn Spitteler: This_Is_My Password
[13:58] Niky Zenovka: Retype Password
[13:58] Youri Ashton: false password
[13:58] Techwolf Lupindo: I've read where one site that logged failed passwords was getting "case sentive". They quickly remove from the page "Note that your password is case sensitive"
[13:58] Bronson Blackadder: Binary Password
[13:58] Youri Ashton: escape password
[13:58] WolfBaginski Bearsfoot: Insecure Password
[13:58] Youri Ashton: lol
[13:58] Torley Linden: Hahaha Techwolf, that's like the old Enter Key joke.
[13:58] Youri Ashton: lots of fun
[13:58] Bronson Blackadder: everyoneknowsmy password
[13:58] Jonathan Yap: Or how about the old support story about "press any key" ?
[13:58] Ema Whitfield: my pas wordis...vioice activatd please say very loud and clearly iheartpenis
[13:58] Tillie Ariantho: What about a 4 week lastname "Noob" and you get some time to choose the final last name? ^^
[13:59] Derek Galaxy: "password must contain one letter, one number and one uppercase letter"
[13:59] Arawn Spitteler: How many calls, did Microsloth CS get, from people who couldn't find the Any Key
[13:59] Derek Galaxy: lol
[13:59] xstorm Radek: Torley did you see what happen to all them GossipGirl members ?
[13:59] Torley Linden: I didn't, xstorm.
[13:59] Jumpman Lane: what happened to them xstorm?
[13:59] xstorm Radek: it was a shame
[13:59] Jumpman Lane: i used to gothere
[13:59] Tillie Ariantho: Are the Gossipgirl sims still up?
[13:59] Jumpman Lane: that sim
[13:59] Bronson Blackadder: teh latest gossip is that they are gone
[13:59] Jumpman Lane: i havent been for a year
[13:59] Tillie Ariantho: And what about the CSI sims?
[13:59] Jumpman Lane: or more
[13:59] Flenser Juergens: I'll need to go, seems to be young lady in distress. Hasn't got anyone at club.
[14:00] Flenser Juergens: Take care.
[14:00] Jonathan Yap: This is a classic, too http://www.neystadt.org/john/humor/IBM-Mouse-Balls.htm
[14:00] Youri Ashton: there used to be a griefer that didnt like me much and used almost same name to try to get me banned
[14:00] Torley Linden: In the future it's gonna be "Your password must enter a series of indecipherable squiggly things". I've known some people who understandably wonder why their password comes up as a series of dots even though they're trying to type in stuff. ;)
[14:00] Youri Ashton: his name: Yourii Ashton
[14:00] Youri Ashton: 2 i's
[14:00] Derek Galaxy: i thought GossipGirl was only a last name not a sim
[14:00] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[14:00] Chaley May: picture passwords?
[14:00] Bronson Blackadder: my password really is ***********
[14:00] Aargle Zymurgy: "I saw his password! it's 7 stars!"
[14:00] Jumpman Lane: no it was a sim
[14:00] Youri Ashton: it is derek
[14:00] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[14:00] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[14:00] Bronson Blackadder: lol
[14:00] Derek Galaxy:
[14:00] Derek Galaxy: lol Torley
[14:00] Jumpman Lane: and the land managers were real snooty
[14:00] Arawn Spitteler: Crash Me would be a much better surname than Tester
[14:01] xstorm Radek: The GossipGirl sim was shut down and then there home was move to the chelse sim and now my records shows no home point for them not
[14:01] Torley Linden: But such is the system of the world. I've gotta go and continue on Linden Home and Viewer 2 help stuff but good being with all of y'all! Hope to see you next week. ^_^
[14:01] Youri Ashton: my password is something i dont even rember :p
[14:01] Youri Ashton: remember*
[14:01] Tillie Ariantho: Derek: the GossipGirls has a landing zone of 4 GossipGirl sims, with special shots of high quality stuff for them and a greeter team.
[14:01] Jonathan Yap: MIT (?) developed a system where you did not need a password; how you typed in your name (pauses, etc) was enough to verify you
[14:01] Richard Untermeyer: thanks a lot Torley!
[14:01] Torley Linden: Byezerama! *waves and smiles*

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