Open Grid Public Beta/Daily Huddle Transcripts/Transcript 20080815

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• [9:13] Norgan Torok: hey whump
• [9:13] BlueWall Slade: probably has a chat-bridge there
• [9:13] Whump Linden: morning
• [9:13] Saijanai Kuhn: wheee its whuuuump
• [9:13] BlueWall Slade: Hey Whump
• [9:13] sacha Magne: hehe
• [9:13] Norgan Torok: nice to meet you finally
• [9:14] G2 Proto: whump mania
• [9:14] Whump Linden: Hi, sorry. Mornings can be a bear at times.
• [9:14] Sierra Inman: Hi Whump
• [9:14] Norgan Torok: i stayed up just for you man
• [9:14] G2 Proto: haha
• [9:14] Norgan Torok: eheh no other reason :P
• [9:14] BlueWall Slade: hehe, you must stay up all night too?
• [9:14] G2 Proto: and he is a sleepy guy that is high praise
• [9:14] Norgan Torok: argh 2am lol
• [9:15] G2 Proto:  :)
• [9:15] Whump Linden: So I don't have any new news on the JIRA front.
• [9:16] Norgan Torok: i just came to say hi and meet for first time since i was up so no pressure form here
• [9:16] Norgan Torok: lol
• [9:16] Whump Linden: no worries, Norgan, nice to meet you too.
• [9:16] BlueWall Slade: he just wants a bear for his kangaroo to play with
• [9:16] Norgan Torok: your cute too lol you and g2 need to make baies
• [9:17] Norgan Torok: babies*
• [9:17] G2 Proto: no build, minions unable to spawn
• [9:17] Norgan Torok: lol'lol
• [9:17] Sierra Inman: hehe
• [9:17] Whump Linden: Norgan, G2 already has baaabbbbyyy robots. Check his backpack.

• [9:17] Norgan Torok: haha thats true
• [9:17] Norgan Torok: lol
• [9:17] G2 Proto: hehe yes im very active
• [9:17] Norgan Torok: and he wont give me one
• [9:18] Norgan Torok: hey sb
• [9:18] Strawberry Fride: hiya :)
• [9:19] Whump Linden: We're currently working on https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2724 which will mean a change in one of the messages.
• [9:19] Sierra Inman: gave you Sierra needs a Bear :-).
• [9:20] Xugu Madison: Good good!
• [9:20] Whump Linden: rez_avatar/place was expecting ip_address, but will change to expect a host_name.
• [9:21] Whump Linden: where host name can be, of course, an IP address
• [9:21] Norgan Torok: thx whump
• [9:22] Whump Linden: So I'll email the list and update the wiki when that changes.
• [9:22] Norgan Torok: hey g2 v2
• [9:22] Whump Linden: a shinier G2
• [9:22] GSquared Proto: lol laptop meltdown
• [9:22] Norgan Torok: lol
• [9:22] Strawberry Fride: aah :)
• [9:23] Sierra Inman: nice top hat
• [9:23] Saijanai Kuhn: evemtually AWG has to settle on a naming scheme for other regions/grids
• [9:23] GSquared Proto: hehe
• [9:23] sacha Magne: any news on lsl extention related to intergrid ?
• [9:24] Whump Linden: Sacha, that one, at the moment is lower priority, but in the queue.
• [9:24] sacha Magne: ok :)
• [9:24] Xugu Madison: Sai, is there likely to be a better solution than just using hostname & port?
• [9:24] Whump Linden: Xugu, we'd like to get to something better.
• [9:24] Saijanai Kuhn: dunno. But I know its been knocked back and forth for a while. Gotchas if you do, gotchas if you don't, I think
• [9:25] Whump Linden: We talked about it briefly at Wednesday's office hours.
• [9:25] Xugu Madison: nodnods
• [9:25] Whump Linden: so check the transcript
• [9:25] Whump Linden: and I talked about it some with Tess yesterday
• [9:26] Whump Linden: so a more formal proposal needs to be written
• [9:26] Norgan Torok: do we know how map coords will work with other grids yet?
• [9:26] Saijanai Kuhn: talk to signpost marvin about that one
• [9:26] Norgan Torok: will it be an entry sim only or entire grids represented on map?
• [9:26] Whump Linden: didn't he have a proposal from January on the wiki?
• [9:27] Xugu Madison: I intuitively assumed that you teleport directly to a region, and it merely happens to be on a different grid...
• [9:27] Whump Linden: Norgan: I don't know, but whole grids would be better
• [9:27] Saijanai Kuhn: yeah, started a VAG and held a meeting, then I don't know what
• [9:27] Norgan Torok: agreed
• [9:27] GSquared Proto: hurumph
• [9:27] Norgan Torok: but cordinates will have to be well er coordinated excuse the pun
• [9:27] Whump Linden: Saij, I had a glance at that page yesterday.
• [9:27] Saijanai Kuhn: and of course, not all grids will be grids. Spherical coordinates for spacestation regions
• [9:28] Norgan Torok: spacestation?
• [9:28] Strawberry Fride: sounds cool to me!
• [9:28] Norgan Torok: as in a z coord?
• [9:28] Saijanai Kuhn: B5
• [9:28] Xugu Madison: I have a horrible feeling someone will try a 4D grid if you let them...
• [9:28] Whump Linden: o.0
• [9:28] Latif Khalifa: saij, not that again ;)
• [9:28] Strawberry Fride: I'll have one - can I have one?
• [9:28] BlueWall Slade: String Grid 11D
• [9:28] Norgan Torok: well opensim has a very tempting z coord lol
• [9:28] Saijanai Kuhn: B5's land raea is almost as big as SL's is
• [9:29] Saijanai Kuhn: survface area
• [9:29] Norgan Torok: the idea is intruiging but maps will be a nightmare
• [9:29] Whump Linden: yes, but a torus has a finite area problem, where as a cartesian grid is only limited by the size of your BIGINT
• [9:29] Strawberry Fride: hehe
• [9:29] Saijanai Kuhn: true, but if you build one, guarantee poeple will visit it
• [9:30] Norgan Torok: lol someone said to me once b4
• [9:30] Norgan Torok: i may just be crazy enough to try it
• [9:30] Norgan Torok: lol
• [9:30] Whump Linden: G2 and Strawberry can ask the Halo folks what they do.
• [9:30] GSquared Proto: lol
• [9:30] Strawberry Fride: that sounds like the sort of thing I'd be well up for asking
• [9:30] GSquared Proto: will do, I am hoping to bring them in too'
• [9:31] Whump Linden: okay, any other questions, issues, annoncements?
• [9:31] Xugu Madison: I think if grid admins want to make non 2D/3D grds they get to make their own maps....
• [9:31] Saijanai Kuhn: Tess came up with a way to describe regular 3D coordinate systems for the OGP regardless of whether any viewer could handle them
• [9:31] GSquared Proto: being .NET means OpenSim could be used on Xbox
• [9:31] Norgan Torok: yes and blow away sonys home
• [9:31] Norgan Torok: that will be a big gamer pull
• [9:31] Strawberry Fride: would have an excuse to buy one
• [9:31] Saijanai Kuhn: so if you want to TP to one, you'd get the grid coordinate system that it used, and your viewer would have to decided if it had the right plugin
• [9:32] GSquared Proto: i think they killed Home already
• [9:32] Norgan Torok: oh?
• [9:32] Norgan Torok: you guys seen nurien?
• [9:32] Xugu Madison: Anyone tried this on PS3 Linux yet? :)
• [9:32] GSquared Proto: im SL/opensim obsessed
• [9:32] Norgan Torok: < is opensim all the way
• [9:32] Whump Linden: I could had sworn I heard they demmoed Home at GDC earlier this summer?
• [9:32] AUGrid Magic: me too
• [9:32] AUGrid Magic: lol
• [9:33] GSquared Proto: could be the article said at least sony delayed it again
• [9:33] Saijanai Kuhn: I think I read it was deslayed, but not cancelled
• [9:33] GSquared Proto: not happy with it
• [9:33] Norgan Torok: there is hype on youtube about home and nurien
• [9:33] icarus Class: Airship 2.4 whispers: Unauthorized Access
• [9:33] Malburns Writer: demoed and beat access in Japan i believe
• [9:33] Norgan Torok: but it looks lacking on the content creation
• [9:33] Norgan Torok: both do actually
• [9:33] GSquared Proto: yeah running on a 1500 pc
• [9:33] Strawberry Fride: not had a chance to look in any other directions recently
• [9:33] Norgan Torok: fullf over function
• [9:33] GSquared Proto: $
• [9:33] Norgan Torok: fluff*
• [9:33] Saijanai Kuhn: we are also, actually. The guy that did prims for SL had a blog entry up about the limitations he had to put into the current prim system
• [9:34] BlueWall Slade: hehe - got my first LSL patch in today : r5861 :D
• [9:34] GSquared Proto: nice Blue thanks!!!
• [9:34] Strawberry Fride: excellent!
• [9:34] Mirt Tenk: go BlueWall
• [9:34] Whump Linden: cool!
• [9:34] Strawberry Fride: what was it for?
• [9:35] Norgan Torok: ahah
• [9:35] GSquared Proto: Strawberry is ourMS patch wizard fixing MSSQL code
• [9:35] sacha Magne: blue pay the beers !
• [9:35] BlueWall Slade: PRIM_GLOW in llSetPrimitiveParams
• [9:35] Norgan Torok: checks irc
• [9:35] Norgan Torok: oo
• [9:35] Norgan Torok: nice one
• [9:35] Norgan Torok: i love weekends
• [9:35] Norgan Torok: more patches
• [9:35] Norgan Torok: lol
• [9:35] GSquared Proto: haha
• [9:35] Tao Takashi: off to enus' OH
• [9:35] BlueWall Slade: now I can go after the rest of teh texture settings
• [9:35] Tao Takashi: cya later
• [9:35] Norgan Torok: is a geek lol
• [9:35] Saijanai Kuhn: Whump. you posting this OH, or shall I? I'm off to the ENus office hours too
• [9:36] Whump Linden: Saijanai, I can if you're off to Enus' OO.
• [9:36] Saijanai Kuhn: KK laters all. BTW, we got most of the bits working for pyogp now. Just a matter of integrating them and we ahve a genuine do nothing bot available for OGP
• [9:37] GSquared Proto: great work SJ
• [9:37] Saijanai Kuhn: not mine, everyone else ;-)
• [9:37] GSquared Proto:  :)
• [9:37] BlueWall Slade: wonder if we could make it test LSL ?
• [9:38] Whump Linden: Enus and I spent a little time yesterday playing with the test suite to get a bot to rez. He'll have more info later.
• [9:38] Strawberry Fride: oo :)
• [9:38] GSquared Proto: cool
• [9:38] BlueWall Slade: nice!
• [9:39] Whump Linden: okay, laters