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Project:Editing Discussion/Archive 02

2008-05-14T21:06:42Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* User page content policy */

This is an open forum for people to discuss this wiki, ala the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump Wikipedia "Village pump"]. This is ''not'' for general discussion of Second Life. For that, please refer to [http://forums.secondlife.com/ the forums]

Feel free to add your comments below.

== What should this be called? ==

I used "Village pump" as a working name. If it sticks, that's fine. I thought about using a Second Life themed name (e.g. The Telehub), but then realized that there could be confusion between that page and a future [[Telehub]] page which actually describes what Telehubs are. Maybe the "Hippo Pond"? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:29, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

:That names sounds ok, but what should the namespace be? -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 18:44, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

::I'm using the same guidelines as other wikis (like Wikipedia's village pump, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project:Village_pump ), though I'll admit it's a little confusing in this case. One really irritating thing about MediaWiki is that it assumes that the name of the wiki ("Second Life Wiki") is a term that is appropriate to use as a namespace identifier, because it works for Wikipedia. So, we either have to shorten the name of the wiki ("SLWiki", which I think was already being used by someone else), or use "Project". I opted for the latter in configuring this wiki. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 10:55, 14 May 2007 (PDT)

== Guidelines ==

*Given past experiences with the forums, some moderation will need to be done. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 18:44, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

I suggest keeping it simple. If it is the only SL Forum call it 'SL Forum'. If it is the SL People's Forum then call it that.Errol Carter

===User Pages===
A wiki by nature allows all users to edit content of any page, however unlike sites like wikipedia.com, the slwiki has User: pages which by their nature should be moderated only sparingly if at all. NOONE, (either self appointed moderator, "volunter", or support staff alt should be allowed to delete content on a user page that is deemed nonsensical (just because these censors do not "like" the views expressed. If these views do not violate the sl tos, community standards, and the slwiki guidlines, would-be thoguht-police should leave the private user pages alone.

===Pornography===
Porn exists in Second Life. It is even endorsed (if backhandedly cf the Official Gude to SL's recommendation that tards persue jobs as virtual escorts) Regions are deemed mature, pg etc. Parts of Second life are notably PG (eg profile pages) Parts of SL are anything goes (group pages in sl). At present there seem to be no specific guidles as to the acceptiblity of mature content (if there are any guidlines please let me [[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] know). As pornography is accepted in SL, we humbly request that it be allowed in some form in the sl wiki if only ion our user pages. I,[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] , am a Second Life pornographer. The mentioning of that on my User page is mentioning my central in-world my activites. Perhaps a mature portal in the wiki is necessary.

== Purpose ==

How does this 'forum' differ from the Second Life Forum? (except that this one is accessable by free-accounts)--[[User:Vernes Veranes|Vernes Veranes]] 18:14, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

:This is specifically a place to discuss the wiki itself, not Second Life generally. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:19, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

== Policy Section ==

* To discuss existing and proposed policies

===Licensing===

:'''Q.''' Residents have begun to [[Sculpted_Prims:_Sculpt_Maps_and_Textures|share sculpt maps, textures, and sculpted prims]] on the wiki. According to the [[Project:General_disclaimer|General Disclaimer]], "Linden Lab will make your contribution available under the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ Creative Comments (sic) Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license]". (cf. [[Project:Contribution_Agreement|Contribution Agreement]] and the [[Project:Copyrights|Copyrights Project]]). Will residents be able to choose other licenses (a different ''Creative Commons'' license, GPL, or the [http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ Free Art License] for example) if they wish to do so? — [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]] 01:08, 4 June 2007 (PDT)

:: '''A.''': No, not if you host it here. It's just too complicated. You may link to differently licensed material, but please don't expect to choose your own license for information you upload here. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 11:35, 18 July 2007 (PDT)

===Project page vs. Project discussion page===

:Discussion should occur on the discussion page; with this '''project''' page itself being an overview rather than the actual discussion.
:
:Is this correct? --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 20:01, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

::Well, this page is kind of the exception to the rule, since it's specifically identified as a discussion page. But yes, in general, discussion should go on the discussion page. I thought about putting a redirect from here straight to [[Project talk:Editing Discussion]], but thought better of it. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 20:59, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

===Persistent Logins===
:'''Q.''' Can we please have persistent logins here? I really don't see the need for having to log in each time, it's annoying; but even more annoying is being in the middle of an edit, getting called away, coming back, finishing the edit, clicking the Preview button...only to be told you need to log in to edit, and all the work you've done is gone. [[User:Siann Beck|Siann Beck]] 16:57, 9 October 2007 (PDT)

::'''A.''': Logins should be persistent for 24 hrs. It could be that our sysadmins needed to reset the sessions, which could lead to the probelm you describe. A workaround for the problem (in Firefox, at least) if it happens again is this:
::* Leave the "you need to log in to edit" screen up
::* Open the login link ''in a new window''
::* Hit reload in the first window. In Firefox, this causes you to get prompted to repost form data. Click "ok".
::Sorry that you lost your edits. I know that's frustrating. There are also form saving plugins for various browsers, as well ([http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/user-scripts/auto-save-forms-user-script/ Firefox Auto Save], for example) -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 17:18, 9 October 2007 (PDT)

:::Why expire them at all? Can't we have a "Keep me signed in" checkbox on the login page? I'm the only person who uses my computer; I see no need for me to have to log in every day. [[User:Siann Beck|Siann Beck]] 04:54, 11 October 2007 (PDT)

== NewbieNotes ==
For some time a call has been made to the general public to modify and simplify the Wiki. NewbieNotes is a response to that, a section for new and experienced scripters alike that is dedicated to explaining LsL in simple English. While in some instances NewbieNotes duplicate some information, it attempts to do so in an easier-to-understand manner for inexperienced scripters (or experienced scripters who are tearing their hair out over some glitch or quirk). NewbieNotes speak plain English and attempt to overcome the "techno-geek-speak" syndrome so often found throughout tech manuals. The NewbieNote Motto: "One simple phrase is better than twelve complex ones".

:Barring a counter proposal I will work this into the LSL page style sometime in this week. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 15:30, 26 February 2008 (PST)

== Sandbox namespace? ==
At the [[Open_Source_Meeting/2007-11-08|open source meeting on 2007-11-08]], we spent a fair amount of time talking about how wiki.secondlife.com would be used for [[Architecture Working Group]] proposals.

A problem that we have right now (and one that existed before AWG, but became more acute now) is that we at Linden Lab host the wiki primarily as a resource to collaborate with the community on documentation and code designs. As a result, we think that people are coming to the wiki with the hope that they're going to find either material that documents Second Life as it is or soon will be, or with roadmap material that Linden Lab had some hand in creating. While a wiki is always more of a "reader beware" zone than many places on the Internet, we'd like to aspire to keeping the main namespace as an area tailored to our intended audience.

That said, we don't mind providing an area for people not affiliated with Linden Lab to collaborate on material that they hope to get Linden Lab's buy-in of, but haven't gotten it yet (within reason). We just want to make sure that material is in a different spot, and is clearly marked as such. Our current solution is to move that type of material into the User: namespace for the person who started the document. However, there are a number of shared documents that don't have an obvious home.

So, I'm dabbling with the idea of creating a new "Sandbox" namespace, where this material would be, and where Lindens can move things rather than delete them. This wouldn't be an unbounded area; we'd still expect people to follow the [[Project:Editing Guidelines]], but would be a little more open to technical proposals that we don't agree with but were made in good faith.

Thoughts? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:28, 8 November 2007 (PST)

: How about a "kitty litter" namespace? :)

: Are things in Category:Design Discussions problematic as well? If I look at [[LSL To Client Communication]] it's pretty clear to me that this is a proposal. With AWG, everything is a proposal, so maybe it's not clear on every page.

: I don't think adding a "Sandbox:" to the page title would really make a difference to someone unfamiliar with the Wiki. Unless it says "User:" it's not clear that this is one individual's unsupported vision. Wouldn't it make sense to move the stuff to the "Discussion:" page though? [[User:Mm Alder|Mm Alder]] 16:01, 12 November 2007 (PST)

:: I may revert back to my original proposal, which is to start tagging things with a <nowiki>{{unofficial}}</nowiki> template, and ask people to do this (and to chip in on the tagging effort). The template could be something along the lines of:

<div style='padding: 5px; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; border: solid 1px #3c78b5; background-color: #D8E4F1;'>This is a Resident-authored proposal, and does not necessarily represent the current state of Second Life or Linden Lab's immediate plans for Second Life.</div>

:: It seems like we should try to provide some clue to help distinguish the two types of content. "Sandbox:" might still be handy. To a newcomer, it would likely connote that ''something'' is a little different about this page. They may not know exactly what, but they'd hopefully be a little more inclined to investigating further before internalizing the information as factual information about Second Life. Would "Proposal:" be a better name? I think in either case (Sandbox: or Proposal:), there would be cases where Linden Lab would use this namespace, too, but would move the document out of "Proposal:" when the document represents the plan of record. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 17:01, 12 November 2007 (PST)

== WikiHUD ==

Hello, I've begun creating a utility for [http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/WikiHUD reading wiki pages in world] to fully support this wiki I need to know where the api.php is, so that search and other functions against api.php work. Presently only reading articles works (summary and full modes) because these are against index.php. The code is open source and the object in world is full permissions.

[[User:Lillie Yifu|Lillie Yifu]] 18:15, 15 February 2008 (PST)

== Creating a Help portal ==

*--I'm interested in making a new portal for General SL Help, for newbies, for veterans, etc. It sounds like I can just make one myself? Do I need Linden approval first (the Editing Guidelines page says "New portals may be added at any time, subject to the discretion of Linden Lab")? Will it automatically appear on the Main Page or do I have to request someone to edit the Main Page? My new portal would have pages like these:
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Second_Life_Help_Portal
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Introduction
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 16:18, 26 February 2008 (PST)

:: I discussed this topic with [[User:Jon Linden|Jon Linden]] and [[User:Jeremy Linden|Jeremy Linden]], and they're generally interested in the concept. Please work with them to develop it, in general I think this is a great thing. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:00, 28 February 2008 (PST)

*--(be patient, I'm no wiki expert) Also, it looks like we are not trying to separate subject matter via namespaces (well, I see a few spots where we are)? Or has there been a consensus we'd like to start doing that? For instance, I'm going to create a lot of help text. There will be overlap in desired article names...like what a Notecard article should be for me in that context is far different from the Open Source interest in a [[Notecard]] article (take a look at theirs). I can just make my article name different ("Notecard (general help)"?)...unless we've decided we want to go forward with separation by namespace. I'm concerned a general member comes here to lookup Notecard and gets a surprising article to them (it all depends on who the person is coming to the wiki what they expect). Are we better off with not separating by namespaces and using default pages with disambiguation pages?
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 09:40, 28 February 2008 (PST)

:: I think it's good to add general end-user information to that page, and to relegate developer-focused information to a "developers" section or separate it out onto its own page. Don't assume that every page that's currently there needs to be preserved as it is or in the format that it's currently in. The particular page that you cite ([[Notecards]]) is a great example of a relatively content-free stub without a lot of good information on it, so to borrow from Wikipedia, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD be bold!] -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:00, 28 February 2008 (PST)

:::*--Ach, but then if I rename "their" Notecard page to Developer:Notecard or Notecard (for developers), then I have to go update all the links :P I only have so much time to do wiki stuff :P
::::--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 11:20, 29 February 2008 (PST)

::::: I'd recommend relegating it to a page section rather than a wholly separate page. You can have a disclaimer note right at the top of the section saying "This information is likely only of interest to software developers". Since this might be a common thing to do, a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates template] may be appropriate.

::::: Even if you move it to it's own page, it's not necessarily your job to update the links. You should merely just make sure that the page is findable from the new Notecards page. A good example of the technique is on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington Wikipedia page "Washington"], which is a page about Washington state, but there's a link right at the top to the Washington DC article. Make sense? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 11:45, 29 February 2008 (PST)

::::::*--Good ideas all, thanks! I now have 6 pages of articles I'm playing with in my user space, if you're interested to see what's on them all, visit https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Jaszons_sandbox
:::::::--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 12:02, 29 February 2008 (PST)

*--Rob, Jeremy brought up something after you left. He's concerned about newbie's experience on the wiki. Not just whether the layout can be made simple enough, but also the issue of what happens when they search for a topic and some of the hits come back that are regarding technical slants on the subject (i.e.--like the [[notecard]] article; which, of course, we can alter). Do you think this is a problem? Is it an argument in favor of namespaces? With a search that defaults to searching only in the namespace that has the general SL user help (main namespace?)?
:--Also, do you know if Jon or Jeremy accept email or visit the wiki or any forums in case I want to run a thought or question by them?
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 17:42, 29 February 2008 (PST)
::It's not as if the default search preferences can't be altered or anything....
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:29, 1 March 2008 (PST)

== Template:Delete ==
In regards to variouse wiki- and inworld discussions, I added a template ([[Template:Delete]]) that marks articles as ''suggested for deletion'', adds them to the [[:Category:Suggested For Deletion]] and provides the chance to start a discussion about pros and cons of the deletion at a subpage of [[Suggested For Deletion]]. This is thought to be for articles that are created accidentally, that violate copyrights, that flame other users ([[I hate User XY]]) or anything else where a simple moveing of the article (redirect) or clean-up isn't addressing the root of the problem. So I would be happy if users who'd like to have a look at quality ensurance of the wiki, as well as administrators could have an eye on it.<br>
THX =) --[[User:Zai Lynch|Zai Lynch]] 04:50, 6 April 2008 (PDT)

== User page content policy ==
*Is there a guideline/policy which discusses acceptable content/use of userpages, such as mature content[http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Image:Slutmagcover.jpg] ... ? --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 14:07, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
*Since when is mature content barred form sl (and the afovementioned pic is rather tame. Too mature or not it is NOT nonsense as it is a product produced in and out world by Jumpman Lane and has a legitmate place in Second Life (porn is not prohibited) and on the User:Jumpman Lane page (he produces it). Is this the forum really to discuss what is or isnt "mature." And how uch equivocation is required to remove "mature content" when you call it nonsense?
[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] 14:07, 14, May 2008 (EST)

*ARE there ANY guidlines/policies which detail of WHAT exactly constitutes NONSENSE. JetZep Zabelin indiscriminately erased the entire contents of the User:Jumpman Lane Page blanket labelleing it all NONSENSE?!?!(this would seem to constitute vandalism). Baring exact guidlines, I do have a few simple questions. How could pictures of Jumpman Lane be considered nonsense on the Jumpman Lane page,being replaced by THE EXAMPLE PICTURE (which can be changed at anytime by anyone to anything. Since when do links to a users owned and operated websites constitute nonsense when they are income genrating enterprises which had thier start within secondlife.
[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] 14:07, 14, May 2008 (EST)

== Wiki Meeting in world? ==
I would consider it ''really'' useful to have some kind of in world meeting about the Wiki (at least once). I don't think we would run out of topics with this... For example the privously mentioned content policy could be one. Another one could be: The Wiki grew to a point where it seems to be useful to translate not even articles but although portals. There are variouse attempts in progress in peoples sandboxes and even in the main namespace. However, this would need additional guidelines to not end up in a total chaos ''imho''. One solution could be {{Jira|WEB-456}}. Otherwise we would need to talk about stuff like: Are categorized redirects (like the one I made [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Waffen&redirect=no here]) appropriate in order to keep topics in a category in a certain language? It can't be intendet that a user who is lacking english skills got to search for the english topic regarding his concern so he can browse via [[Template:Multi-lang]] to his language. This would also cause a bulk creation of new redirects for non-english keywords what might lead into confusion, since the wiki is growing and a typo in an english keyword might be the right translation of a keyword in another language (but for a totally different topic). Another one could be: Is it useful to use the ''Help:'' namespace for SL help like it is done atm? This namespace is filtered by the Wikis search function by default (at least that's the way it is now). I think there might be way more topics bothering people and it would be nice to have some inworld chat with users and administrators in charge. This meeting could be announced somewhere on the [[Main Page]] so the ones who might have an interest in such a meeting (read: the ones who frequently edit the wiki) might stumble upon it. We could create an agenda page where people can add the topics they'd like to see discussed so users can prepare some thoughts on the topic previouse to the meeting itself. Would anyone else think that this is useful? --[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 04:56, 9 May 2008 (PDT)
:Oh, forgot to add:
:It is currently not allowed to transfere content from the support portal to the wiki due to copyright issues (see question 4 and 9 of [http://vteamblog.com/2008/03/24/qa-support-portal-with-maurice-linden/ this Q&A transcript]). So I would like to see either the wiki copyright or the support portal copyright beeing changed so content can be easily transfered. I would not like to see the Wiki change away from the current ''Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0'' license so maybe a support portal Linden might want to attend at such a meeting as well to give a statement on possible license changes. --[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 05:12, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

:The best time to hold such a meeting would be during an office hour, such as {{User|Rob Linden}}'s (who I believe is the official wiki linden). We should create an agenda for such a meeting on a wiki page. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 01:13, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
::I'm wondering if Rob would prefer to have a small segment of his usual office hours put over to Wiki stuffages, or if he'd be able to have an entire slot dedicated to such a meeting.
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:14, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
::*'''Re:Aganda''': please add topics to [[Project:Editing Discussion/Wiki Meeting Agenda]]
::*'''Re:Time''': I would be fine with doing it at Rob's office hour but it seems to be some kind of ''open source meeting'' already, so I'm not sure if the other attendees would like to see their topics postponed.
::--[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 10 May 2008 (PDT)

Project:Editing Discussion/Archive 02

2008-05-14T21:04:02Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* Guidelines */

This is an open forum for people to discuss this wiki, ala the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump Wikipedia "Village pump"]. This is ''not'' for general discussion of Second Life. For that, please refer to [http://forums.secondlife.com/ the forums]

Feel free to add your comments below.

== What should this be called? ==

I used "Village pump" as a working name. If it sticks, that's fine. I thought about using a Second Life themed name (e.g. The Telehub), but then realized that there could be confusion between that page and a future [[Telehub]] page which actually describes what Telehubs are. Maybe the "Hippo Pond"? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:29, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

:That names sounds ok, but what should the namespace be? -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 18:44, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

::I'm using the same guidelines as other wikis (like Wikipedia's village pump, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project:Village_pump ), though I'll admit it's a little confusing in this case. One really irritating thing about MediaWiki is that it assumes that the name of the wiki ("Second Life Wiki") is a term that is appropriate to use as a namespace identifier, because it works for Wikipedia. So, we either have to shorten the name of the wiki ("SLWiki", which I think was already being used by someone else), or use "Project". I opted for the latter in configuring this wiki. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 10:55, 14 May 2007 (PDT)

== Guidelines ==

*Given past experiences with the forums, some moderation will need to be done. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 18:44, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

I suggest keeping it simple. If it is the only SL Forum call it 'SL Forum'. If it is the SL People's Forum then call it that.Errol Carter

===User Pages===
A wiki by nature allows all users to edit content of any page, however unlike sites like wikipedia.com, the slwiki has User: pages which by their nature should be moderated only sparingly if at all. NOONE, (either self appointed moderator, "volunter", or support staff alt should be allowed to delete content on a user page that is deemed nonsensical (just because these censors do not "like" the views expressed. If these views do not violate the sl tos, community standards, and the slwiki guidlines, would-be thoguht-police should leave the private user pages alone.

===Pornography===
Porn exists in Second Life. It is even endorsed (if backhandedly cf the Official Gude to SL's recommendation that tards persue jobs as virtual escorts) Regions are deemed mature, pg etc. Parts of Second life are notably PG (eg profile pages) Parts of SL are anything goes (group pages in sl). At present there seem to be no specific guidles as to the acceptiblity of mature content (if there are any guidlines please let me [[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] know). As pornography is accepted in SL, we humbly request that it be allowed in some form in the sl wiki if only ion our user pages. I,[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] , am a Second Life pornographer. The mentioning of that on my User page is mentioning my central in-world my activites. Perhaps a mature portal in the wiki is necessary.

== Purpose ==

How does this 'forum' differ from the Second Life Forum? (except that this one is accessable by free-accounts)--[[User:Vernes Veranes|Vernes Veranes]] 18:14, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

:This is specifically a place to discuss the wiki itself, not Second Life generally. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:19, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

== Policy Section ==

* To discuss existing and proposed policies

===Licensing===

:'''Q.''' Residents have begun to [[Sculpted_Prims:_Sculpt_Maps_and_Textures|share sculpt maps, textures, and sculpted prims]] on the wiki. According to the [[Project:General_disclaimer|General Disclaimer]], "Linden Lab will make your contribution available under the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ Creative Comments (sic) Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license]". (cf. [[Project:Contribution_Agreement|Contribution Agreement]] and the [[Project:Copyrights|Copyrights Project]]). Will residents be able to choose other licenses (a different ''Creative Commons'' license, GPL, or the [http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ Free Art License] for example) if they wish to do so? — [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]] 01:08, 4 June 2007 (PDT)

:: '''A.''': No, not if you host it here. It's just too complicated. You may link to differently licensed material, but please don't expect to choose your own license for information you upload here. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 11:35, 18 July 2007 (PDT)

===Project page vs. Project discussion page===

:Discussion should occur on the discussion page; with this '''project''' page itself being an overview rather than the actual discussion.
:
:Is this correct? --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 20:01, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

::Well, this page is kind of the exception to the rule, since it's specifically identified as a discussion page. But yes, in general, discussion should go on the discussion page. I thought about putting a redirect from here straight to [[Project talk:Editing Discussion]], but thought better of it. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 20:59, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

===Persistent Logins===
:'''Q.''' Can we please have persistent logins here? I really don't see the need for having to log in each time, it's annoying; but even more annoying is being in the middle of an edit, getting called away, coming back, finishing the edit, clicking the Preview button...only to be told you need to log in to edit, and all the work you've done is gone. [[User:Siann Beck|Siann Beck]] 16:57, 9 October 2007 (PDT)

::'''A.''': Logins should be persistent for 24 hrs. It could be that our sysadmins needed to reset the sessions, which could lead to the probelm you describe. A workaround for the problem (in Firefox, at least) if it happens again is this:
::* Leave the "you need to log in to edit" screen up
::* Open the login link ''in a new window''
::* Hit reload in the first window. In Firefox, this causes you to get prompted to repost form data. Click "ok".
::Sorry that you lost your edits. I know that's frustrating. There are also form saving plugins for various browsers, as well ([http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/user-scripts/auto-save-forms-user-script/ Firefox Auto Save], for example) -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 17:18, 9 October 2007 (PDT)

:::Why expire them at all? Can't we have a "Keep me signed in" checkbox on the login page? I'm the only person who uses my computer; I see no need for me to have to log in every day. [[User:Siann Beck|Siann Beck]] 04:54, 11 October 2007 (PDT)

== NewbieNotes ==
For some time a call has been made to the general public to modify and simplify the Wiki. NewbieNotes is a response to that, a section for new and experienced scripters alike that is dedicated to explaining LsL in simple English. While in some instances NewbieNotes duplicate some information, it attempts to do so in an easier-to-understand manner for inexperienced scripters (or experienced scripters who are tearing their hair out over some glitch or quirk). NewbieNotes speak plain English and attempt to overcome the "techno-geek-speak" syndrome so often found throughout tech manuals. The NewbieNote Motto: "One simple phrase is better than twelve complex ones".

:Barring a counter proposal I will work this into the LSL page style sometime in this week. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 15:30, 26 February 2008 (PST)

== Sandbox namespace? ==
At the [[Open_Source_Meeting/2007-11-08|open source meeting on 2007-11-08]], we spent a fair amount of time talking about how wiki.secondlife.com would be used for [[Architecture Working Group]] proposals.

A problem that we have right now (and one that existed before AWG, but became more acute now) is that we at Linden Lab host the wiki primarily as a resource to collaborate with the community on documentation and code designs. As a result, we think that people are coming to the wiki with the hope that they're going to find either material that documents Second Life as it is or soon will be, or with roadmap material that Linden Lab had some hand in creating. While a wiki is always more of a "reader beware" zone than many places on the Internet, we'd like to aspire to keeping the main namespace as an area tailored to our intended audience.

That said, we don't mind providing an area for people not affiliated with Linden Lab to collaborate on material that they hope to get Linden Lab's buy-in of, but haven't gotten it yet (within reason). We just want to make sure that material is in a different spot, and is clearly marked as such. Our current solution is to move that type of material into the User: namespace for the person who started the document. However, there are a number of shared documents that don't have an obvious home.

So, I'm dabbling with the idea of creating a new "Sandbox" namespace, where this material would be, and where Lindens can move things rather than delete them. This wouldn't be an unbounded area; we'd still expect people to follow the [[Project:Editing Guidelines]], but would be a little more open to technical proposals that we don't agree with but were made in good faith.

Thoughts? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:28, 8 November 2007 (PST)

: How about a "kitty litter" namespace? :)

: Are things in Category:Design Discussions problematic as well? If I look at [[LSL To Client Communication]] it's pretty clear to me that this is a proposal. With AWG, everything is a proposal, so maybe it's not clear on every page.

: I don't think adding a "Sandbox:" to the page title would really make a difference to someone unfamiliar with the Wiki. Unless it says "User:" it's not clear that this is one individual's unsupported vision. Wouldn't it make sense to move the stuff to the "Discussion:" page though? [[User:Mm Alder|Mm Alder]] 16:01, 12 November 2007 (PST)

:: I may revert back to my original proposal, which is to start tagging things with a <nowiki>{{unofficial}}</nowiki> template, and ask people to do this (and to chip in on the tagging effort). The template could be something along the lines of:

<div style='padding: 5px; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; border: solid 1px #3c78b5; background-color: #D8E4F1;'>This is a Resident-authored proposal, and does not necessarily represent the current state of Second Life or Linden Lab's immediate plans for Second Life.</div>

:: It seems like we should try to provide some clue to help distinguish the two types of content. "Sandbox:" might still be handy. To a newcomer, it would likely connote that ''something'' is a little different about this page. They may not know exactly what, but they'd hopefully be a little more inclined to investigating further before internalizing the information as factual information about Second Life. Would "Proposal:" be a better name? I think in either case (Sandbox: or Proposal:), there would be cases where Linden Lab would use this namespace, too, but would move the document out of "Proposal:" when the document represents the plan of record. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 17:01, 12 November 2007 (PST)

== WikiHUD ==

Hello, I've begun creating a utility for [http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/WikiHUD reading wiki pages in world] to fully support this wiki I need to know where the api.php is, so that search and other functions against api.php work. Presently only reading articles works (summary and full modes) because these are against index.php. The code is open source and the object in world is full permissions.

[[User:Lillie Yifu|Lillie Yifu]] 18:15, 15 February 2008 (PST)

== Creating a Help portal ==

*--I'm interested in making a new portal for General SL Help, for newbies, for veterans, etc. It sounds like I can just make one myself? Do I need Linden approval first (the Editing Guidelines page says "New portals may be added at any time, subject to the discretion of Linden Lab")? Will it automatically appear on the Main Page or do I have to request someone to edit the Main Page? My new portal would have pages like these:
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Second_Life_Help_Portal
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Introduction
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 16:18, 26 February 2008 (PST)

:: I discussed this topic with [[User:Jon Linden|Jon Linden]] and [[User:Jeremy Linden|Jeremy Linden]], and they're generally interested in the concept. Please work with them to develop it, in general I think this is a great thing. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:00, 28 February 2008 (PST)

*--(be patient, I'm no wiki expert) Also, it looks like we are not trying to separate subject matter via namespaces (well, I see a few spots where we are)? Or has there been a consensus we'd like to start doing that? For instance, I'm going to create a lot of help text. There will be overlap in desired article names...like what a Notecard article should be for me in that context is far different from the Open Source interest in a [[Notecard]] article (take a look at theirs). I can just make my article name different ("Notecard (general help)"?)...unless we've decided we want to go forward with separation by namespace. I'm concerned a general member comes here to lookup Notecard and gets a surprising article to them (it all depends on who the person is coming to the wiki what they expect). Are we better off with not separating by namespaces and using default pages with disambiguation pages?
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 09:40, 28 February 2008 (PST)

:: I think it's good to add general end-user information to that page, and to relegate developer-focused information to a "developers" section or separate it out onto its own page. Don't assume that every page that's currently there needs to be preserved as it is or in the format that it's currently in. The particular page that you cite ([[Notecards]]) is a great example of a relatively content-free stub without a lot of good information on it, so to borrow from Wikipedia, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD be bold!] -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:00, 28 February 2008 (PST)

:::*--Ach, but then if I rename "their" Notecard page to Developer:Notecard or Notecard (for developers), then I have to go update all the links :P I only have so much time to do wiki stuff :P
::::--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 11:20, 29 February 2008 (PST)

::::: I'd recommend relegating it to a page section rather than a wholly separate page. You can have a disclaimer note right at the top of the section saying "This information is likely only of interest to software developers". Since this might be a common thing to do, a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates template] may be appropriate.

::::: Even if you move it to it's own page, it's not necessarily your job to update the links. You should merely just make sure that the page is findable from the new Notecards page. A good example of the technique is on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington Wikipedia page "Washington"], which is a page about Washington state, but there's a link right at the top to the Washington DC article. Make sense? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 11:45, 29 February 2008 (PST)

::::::*--Good ideas all, thanks! I now have 6 pages of articles I'm playing with in my user space, if you're interested to see what's on them all, visit https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Jaszons_sandbox
:::::::--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 12:02, 29 February 2008 (PST)

*--Rob, Jeremy brought up something after you left. He's concerned about newbie's experience on the wiki. Not just whether the layout can be made simple enough, but also the issue of what happens when they search for a topic and some of the hits come back that are regarding technical slants on the subject (i.e.--like the [[notecard]] article; which, of course, we can alter). Do you think this is a problem? Is it an argument in favor of namespaces? With a search that defaults to searching only in the namespace that has the general SL user help (main namespace?)?
:--Also, do you know if Jon or Jeremy accept email or visit the wiki or any forums in case I want to run a thought or question by them?
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 17:42, 29 February 2008 (PST)
::It's not as if the default search preferences can't be altered or anything....
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:29, 1 March 2008 (PST)

== Template:Delete ==
In regards to variouse wiki- and inworld discussions, I added a template ([[Template:Delete]]) that marks articles as ''suggested for deletion'', adds them to the [[:Category:Suggested For Deletion]] and provides the chance to start a discussion about pros and cons of the deletion at a subpage of [[Suggested For Deletion]]. This is thought to be for articles that are created accidentally, that violate copyrights, that flame other users ([[I hate User XY]]) or anything else where a simple moveing of the article (redirect) or clean-up isn't addressing the root of the problem. So I would be happy if users who'd like to have a look at quality ensurance of the wiki, as well as administrators could have an eye on it.<br>
THX =) --[[User:Zai Lynch|Zai Lynch]] 04:50, 6 April 2008 (PDT)

== User page content policy ==
*Is there a guideline/policy which discusses acceptable content/use of userpages, such as mature content[http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Image:Slutmagcover.jpg] ... ? --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 14:07, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
*Since when is mature content barred form sl (and the avovementioned pic is rrather tame. Too mature or not it is NOT nonsense as it is a product produced in and out world by Jumpman Lane and has a legitmate place in Second Life (porn is not prohibited) and on the User:Jumpman Lane page (he produces it).
[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] 14:07, 14, May 2008 (EST)

*ARE there ANY guidlines/policies which detail of WHAT exactly constitutes NONSENSE. JetZep Zabelin indiscriminately erased the entire contents of the User:Jumpman Lane Page blanket labelleing it all NONSENSE?!?!(this would seem to constitute vandalism). Baring exact guidlines, I do have a few simple questions. How could pictures of Jumpman Lane be considered nonsense on the Jumpman Lane page,being replaced by THE EXAMPLE PICTURE (which can be changed at anytime by anyone to anything. Since when do links to a users owned and operated websites constitute nonsense when they are income genrating enterprises which had thier start within secondlife.
[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] 14:07, 14, May 2008 (EST)

== Wiki Meeting in world? ==
I would consider it ''really'' useful to have some kind of in world meeting about the Wiki (at least once). I don't think we would run out of topics with this... For example the privously mentioned content policy could be one. Another one could be: The Wiki grew to a point where it seems to be useful to translate not even articles but although portals. There are variouse attempts in progress in peoples sandboxes and even in the main namespace. However, this would need additional guidelines to not end up in a total chaos ''imho''. One solution could be {{Jira|WEB-456}}. Otherwise we would need to talk about stuff like: Are categorized redirects (like the one I made [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Waffen&redirect=no here]) appropriate in order to keep topics in a category in a certain language? It can't be intendet that a user who is lacking english skills got to search for the english topic regarding his concern so he can browse via [[Template:Multi-lang]] to his language. This would also cause a bulk creation of new redirects for non-english keywords what might lead into confusion, since the wiki is growing and a typo in an english keyword might be the right translation of a keyword in another language (but for a totally different topic). Another one could be: Is it useful to use the ''Help:'' namespace for SL help like it is done atm? This namespace is filtered by the Wikis search function by default (at least that's the way it is now). I think there might be way more topics bothering people and it would be nice to have some inworld chat with users and administrators in charge. This meeting could be announced somewhere on the [[Main Page]] so the ones who might have an interest in such a meeting (read: the ones who frequently edit the wiki) might stumble upon it. We could create an agenda page where people can add the topics they'd like to see discussed so users can prepare some thoughts on the topic previouse to the meeting itself. Would anyone else think that this is useful? --[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 04:56, 9 May 2008 (PDT)
:Oh, forgot to add:
:It is currently not allowed to transfere content from the support portal to the wiki due to copyright issues (see question 4 and 9 of [http://vteamblog.com/2008/03/24/qa-support-portal-with-maurice-linden/ this Q&A transcript]). So I would like to see either the wiki copyright or the support portal copyright beeing changed so content can be easily transfered. I would not like to see the Wiki change away from the current ''Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0'' license so maybe a support portal Linden might want to attend at such a meeting as well to give a statement on possible license changes. --[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 05:12, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

:The best time to hold such a meeting would be during an office hour, such as {{User|Rob Linden}}'s (who I believe is the official wiki linden). We should create an agenda for such a meeting on a wiki page. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 01:13, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
::I'm wondering if Rob would prefer to have a small segment of his usual office hours put over to Wiki stuffages, or if he'd be able to have an entire slot dedicated to such a meeting.
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:14, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
::*'''Re:Aganda''': please add topics to [[Project:Editing Discussion/Wiki Meeting Agenda]]
::*'''Re:Time''': I would be fine with doing it at Rob's office hour but it seems to be some kind of ''open source meeting'' already, so I'm not sure if the other attendees would like to see their topics postponed.
::--[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 10 May 2008 (PDT)

Project:Editing Discussion/Archive 02

2008-05-14T20:50:29Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* User page content policy */

This is an open forum for people to discuss this wiki, ala the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump Wikipedia "Village pump"]. This is ''not'' for general discussion of Second Life. For that, please refer to [http://forums.secondlife.com/ the forums]

Feel free to add your comments below.

== What should this be called? ==

I used "Village pump" as a working name. If it sticks, that's fine. I thought about using a Second Life themed name (e.g. The Telehub), but then realized that there could be confusion between that page and a future [[Telehub]] page which actually describes what Telehubs are. Maybe the "Hippo Pond"? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:29, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

:That names sounds ok, but what should the namespace be? -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 18:44, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

::I'm using the same guidelines as other wikis (like Wikipedia's village pump, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project:Village_pump ), though I'll admit it's a little confusing in this case. One really irritating thing about MediaWiki is that it assumes that the name of the wiki ("Second Life Wiki") is a term that is appropriate to use as a namespace identifier, because it works for Wikipedia. So, we either have to shorten the name of the wiki ("SLWiki", which I think was already being used by someone else), or use "Project". I opted for the latter in configuring this wiki. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 10:55, 14 May 2007 (PDT)

== Guidelines ==

Given past experiences with the forums, some moderation will need to be done. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 18:44, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

I suggest keeping it simple. If it is the only SL Forum call it 'SL Forum'. If it is the SL People's Forum then call it that.Errol Carter

== Purpose ==

How does this 'forum' differ from the Second Life Forum? (except that this one is accessable by free-accounts)--[[User:Vernes Veranes|Vernes Veranes]] 18:14, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

:This is specifically a place to discuss the wiki itself, not Second Life generally. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:19, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

== Policy Section ==

* To discuss existing and proposed policies

===Licensing===

:'''Q.''' Residents have begun to [[Sculpted_Prims:_Sculpt_Maps_and_Textures|share sculpt maps, textures, and sculpted prims]] on the wiki. According to the [[Project:General_disclaimer|General Disclaimer]], "Linden Lab will make your contribution available under the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ Creative Comments (sic) Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license]". (cf. [[Project:Contribution_Agreement|Contribution Agreement]] and the [[Project:Copyrights|Copyrights Project]]). Will residents be able to choose other licenses (a different ''Creative Commons'' license, GPL, or the [http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ Free Art License] for example) if they wish to do so? — [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]] 01:08, 4 June 2007 (PDT)

:: '''A.''': No, not if you host it here. It's just too complicated. You may link to differently licensed material, but please don't expect to choose your own license for information you upload here. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 11:35, 18 July 2007 (PDT)

===Project page vs. Project discussion page===

:Discussion should occur on the discussion page; with this '''project''' page itself being an overview rather than the actual discussion.
:
:Is this correct? --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 20:01, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

::Well, this page is kind of the exception to the rule, since it's specifically identified as a discussion page. But yes, in general, discussion should go on the discussion page. I thought about putting a redirect from here straight to [[Project talk:Editing Discussion]], but thought better of it. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 20:59, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

===Persistent Logins===
:'''Q.''' Can we please have persistent logins here? I really don't see the need for having to log in each time, it's annoying; but even more annoying is being in the middle of an edit, getting called away, coming back, finishing the edit, clicking the Preview button...only to be told you need to log in to edit, and all the work you've done is gone. [[User:Siann Beck|Siann Beck]] 16:57, 9 October 2007 (PDT)

::'''A.''': Logins should be persistent for 24 hrs. It could be that our sysadmins needed to reset the sessions, which could lead to the probelm you describe. A workaround for the problem (in Firefox, at least) if it happens again is this:
::* Leave the "you need to log in to edit" screen up
::* Open the login link ''in a new window''
::* Hit reload in the first window. In Firefox, this causes you to get prompted to repost form data. Click "ok".
::Sorry that you lost your edits. I know that's frustrating. There are also form saving plugins for various browsers, as well ([http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/user-scripts/auto-save-forms-user-script/ Firefox Auto Save], for example) -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 17:18, 9 October 2007 (PDT)

:::Why expire them at all? Can't we have a "Keep me signed in" checkbox on the login page? I'm the only person who uses my computer; I see no need for me to have to log in every day. [[User:Siann Beck|Siann Beck]] 04:54, 11 October 2007 (PDT)

== NewbieNotes ==
For some time a call has been made to the general public to modify and simplify the Wiki. NewbieNotes is a response to that, a section for new and experienced scripters alike that is dedicated to explaining LsL in simple English. While in some instances NewbieNotes duplicate some information, it attempts to do so in an easier-to-understand manner for inexperienced scripters (or experienced scripters who are tearing their hair out over some glitch or quirk). NewbieNotes speak plain English and attempt to overcome the "techno-geek-speak" syndrome so often found throughout tech manuals. The NewbieNote Motto: "One simple phrase is better than twelve complex ones".

:Barring a counter proposal I will work this into the LSL page style sometime in this week. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 15:30, 26 February 2008 (PST)

== Sandbox namespace? ==
At the [[Open_Source_Meeting/2007-11-08|open source meeting on 2007-11-08]], we spent a fair amount of time talking about how wiki.secondlife.com would be used for [[Architecture Working Group]] proposals.

A problem that we have right now (and one that existed before AWG, but became more acute now) is that we at Linden Lab host the wiki primarily as a resource to collaborate with the community on documentation and code designs. As a result, we think that people are coming to the wiki with the hope that they're going to find either material that documents Second Life as it is or soon will be, or with roadmap material that Linden Lab had some hand in creating. While a wiki is always more of a "reader beware" zone than many places on the Internet, we'd like to aspire to keeping the main namespace as an area tailored to our intended audience.

That said, we don't mind providing an area for people not affiliated with Linden Lab to collaborate on material that they hope to get Linden Lab's buy-in of, but haven't gotten it yet (within reason). We just want to make sure that material is in a different spot, and is clearly marked as such. Our current solution is to move that type of material into the User: namespace for the person who started the document. However, there are a number of shared documents that don't have an obvious home.

So, I'm dabbling with the idea of creating a new "Sandbox" namespace, where this material would be, and where Lindens can move things rather than delete them. This wouldn't be an unbounded area; we'd still expect people to follow the [[Project:Editing Guidelines]], but would be a little more open to technical proposals that we don't agree with but were made in good faith.

Thoughts? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:28, 8 November 2007 (PST)

: How about a "kitty litter" namespace? :)

: Are things in Category:Design Discussions problematic as well? If I look at [[LSL To Client Communication]] it's pretty clear to me that this is a proposal. With AWG, everything is a proposal, so maybe it's not clear on every page.

: I don't think adding a "Sandbox:" to the page title would really make a difference to someone unfamiliar with the Wiki. Unless it says "User:" it's not clear that this is one individual's unsupported vision. Wouldn't it make sense to move the stuff to the "Discussion:" page though? [[User:Mm Alder|Mm Alder]] 16:01, 12 November 2007 (PST)

:: I may revert back to my original proposal, which is to start tagging things with a <nowiki>{{unofficial}}</nowiki> template, and ask people to do this (and to chip in on the tagging effort). The template could be something along the lines of:

<div style='padding: 5px; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; border: solid 1px #3c78b5; background-color: #D8E4F1;'>This is a Resident-authored proposal, and does not necessarily represent the current state of Second Life or Linden Lab's immediate plans for Second Life.</div>

:: It seems like we should try to provide some clue to help distinguish the two types of content. "Sandbox:" might still be handy. To a newcomer, it would likely connote that ''something'' is a little different about this page. They may not know exactly what, but they'd hopefully be a little more inclined to investigating further before internalizing the information as factual information about Second Life. Would "Proposal:" be a better name? I think in either case (Sandbox: or Proposal:), there would be cases where Linden Lab would use this namespace, too, but would move the document out of "Proposal:" when the document represents the plan of record. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 17:01, 12 November 2007 (PST)

== WikiHUD ==

Hello, I've begun creating a utility for [http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/WikiHUD reading wiki pages in world] to fully support this wiki I need to know where the api.php is, so that search and other functions against api.php work. Presently only reading articles works (summary and full modes) because these are against index.php. The code is open source and the object in world is full permissions.

[[User:Lillie Yifu|Lillie Yifu]] 18:15, 15 February 2008 (PST)

== Creating a Help portal ==

*--I'm interested in making a new portal for General SL Help, for newbies, for veterans, etc. It sounds like I can just make one myself? Do I need Linden approval first (the Editing Guidelines page says "New portals may be added at any time, subject to the discretion of Linden Lab")? Will it automatically appear on the Main Page or do I have to request someone to edit the Main Page? My new portal would have pages like these:
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Second_Life_Help_Portal
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Introduction
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 16:18, 26 February 2008 (PST)

:: I discussed this topic with [[User:Jon Linden|Jon Linden]] and [[User:Jeremy Linden|Jeremy Linden]], and they're generally interested in the concept. Please work with them to develop it, in general I think this is a great thing. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:00, 28 February 2008 (PST)

*--(be patient, I'm no wiki expert) Also, it looks like we are not trying to separate subject matter via namespaces (well, I see a few spots where we are)? Or has there been a consensus we'd like to start doing that? For instance, I'm going to create a lot of help text. There will be overlap in desired article names...like what a Notecard article should be for me in that context is far different from the Open Source interest in a [[Notecard]] article (take a look at theirs). I can just make my article name different ("Notecard (general help)"?)...unless we've decided we want to go forward with separation by namespace. I'm concerned a general member comes here to lookup Notecard and gets a surprising article to them (it all depends on who the person is coming to the wiki what they expect). Are we better off with not separating by namespaces and using default pages with disambiguation pages?
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 09:40, 28 February 2008 (PST)

:: I think it's good to add general end-user information to that page, and to relegate developer-focused information to a "developers" section or separate it out onto its own page. Don't assume that every page that's currently there needs to be preserved as it is or in the format that it's currently in. The particular page that you cite ([[Notecards]]) is a great example of a relatively content-free stub without a lot of good information on it, so to borrow from Wikipedia, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD be bold!] -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:00, 28 February 2008 (PST)

:::*--Ach, but then if I rename "their" Notecard page to Developer:Notecard or Notecard (for developers), then I have to go update all the links :P I only have so much time to do wiki stuff :P
::::--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 11:20, 29 February 2008 (PST)

::::: I'd recommend relegating it to a page section rather than a wholly separate page. You can have a disclaimer note right at the top of the section saying "This information is likely only of interest to software developers". Since this might be a common thing to do, a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates template] may be appropriate.

::::: Even if you move it to it's own page, it's not necessarily your job to update the links. You should merely just make sure that the page is findable from the new Notecards page. A good example of the technique is on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington Wikipedia page "Washington"], which is a page about Washington state, but there's a link right at the top to the Washington DC article. Make sense? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 11:45, 29 February 2008 (PST)

::::::*--Good ideas all, thanks! I now have 6 pages of articles I'm playing with in my user space, if you're interested to see what's on them all, visit https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Jaszons_sandbox
:::::::--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 12:02, 29 February 2008 (PST)

*--Rob, Jeremy brought up something after you left. He's concerned about newbie's experience on the wiki. Not just whether the layout can be made simple enough, but also the issue of what happens when they search for a topic and some of the hits come back that are regarding technical slants on the subject (i.e.--like the [[notecard]] article; which, of course, we can alter). Do you think this is a problem? Is it an argument in favor of namespaces? With a search that defaults to searching only in the namespace that has the general SL user help (main namespace?)?
:--Also, do you know if Jon or Jeremy accept email or visit the wiki or any forums in case I want to run a thought or question by them?
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 17:42, 29 February 2008 (PST)
::It's not as if the default search preferences can't be altered or anything....
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:29, 1 March 2008 (PST)

== Template:Delete ==
In regards to variouse wiki- and inworld discussions, I added a template ([[Template:Delete]]) that marks articles as ''suggested for deletion'', adds them to the [[:Category:Suggested For Deletion]] and provides the chance to start a discussion about pros and cons of the deletion at a subpage of [[Suggested For Deletion]]. This is thought to be for articles that are created accidentally, that violate copyrights, that flame other users ([[I hate User XY]]) or anything else where a simple moveing of the article (redirect) or clean-up isn't addressing the root of the problem. So I would be happy if users who'd like to have a look at quality ensurance of the wiki, as well as administrators could have an eye on it.<br>
THX =) --[[User:Zai Lynch|Zai Lynch]] 04:50, 6 April 2008 (PDT)

== User page content policy ==
*Is there a guideline/policy which discusses acceptable content/use of userpages, such as mature content[http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Image:Slutmagcover.jpg] ... ? --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 14:07, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
*Since when is mature content barred form sl (and the avovementioned pic is rrather tame. Too mature or not it is NOT nonsense as it is a product produced in and out world by Jumpman Lane and has a legitmate place in Second Life (porn is not prohibited) and on the User:Jumpman Lane page (he produces it).
[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] 14:07, 14, May 2008 (EST)

*ARE there ANY guidlines/policies which detail of WHAT exactly constitutes NONSENSE. JetZep Zabelin indiscriminately erased the entire contents of the User:Jumpman Lane Page blanket labelleing it all NONSENSE?!?!(this would seem to constitute vandalism). Baring exact guidlines, I do have a few simple questions. How could pictures of Jumpman Lane be considered nonsense on the Jumpman Lane page,being replaced by THE EXAMPLE PICTURE (which can be changed at anytime by anyone to anything. Since when do links to a users owned and operated websites constitute nonsense when they are income genrating enterprises which had thier start within secondlife.
[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] 14:07, 14, May 2008 (EST)

== Wiki Meeting in world? ==
I would consider it ''really'' useful to have some kind of in world meeting about the Wiki (at least once). I don't think we would run out of topics with this... For example the privously mentioned content policy could be one. Another one could be: The Wiki grew to a point where it seems to be useful to translate not even articles but although portals. There are variouse attempts in progress in peoples sandboxes and even in the main namespace. However, this would need additional guidelines to not end up in a total chaos ''imho''. One solution could be {{Jira|WEB-456}}. Otherwise we would need to talk about stuff like: Are categorized redirects (like the one I made [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Waffen&redirect=no here]) appropriate in order to keep topics in a category in a certain language? It can't be intendet that a user who is lacking english skills got to search for the english topic regarding his concern so he can browse via [[Template:Multi-lang]] to his language. This would also cause a bulk creation of new redirects for non-english keywords what might lead into confusion, since the wiki is growing and a typo in an english keyword might be the right translation of a keyword in another language (but for a totally different topic). Another one could be: Is it useful to use the ''Help:'' namespace for SL help like it is done atm? This namespace is filtered by the Wikis search function by default (at least that's the way it is now). I think there might be way more topics bothering people and it would be nice to have some inworld chat with users and administrators in charge. This meeting could be announced somewhere on the [[Main Page]] so the ones who might have an interest in such a meeting (read: the ones who frequently edit the wiki) might stumble upon it. We could create an agenda page where people can add the topics they'd like to see discussed so users can prepare some thoughts on the topic previouse to the meeting itself. Would anyone else think that this is useful? --[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 04:56, 9 May 2008 (PDT)
:Oh, forgot to add:
:It is currently not allowed to transfere content from the support portal to the wiki due to copyright issues (see question 4 and 9 of [http://vteamblog.com/2008/03/24/qa-support-portal-with-maurice-linden/ this Q&A transcript]). So I would like to see either the wiki copyright or the support portal copyright beeing changed so content can be easily transfered. I would not like to see the Wiki change away from the current ''Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0'' license so maybe a support portal Linden might want to attend at such a meeting as well to give a statement on possible license changes. --[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 05:12, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

:The best time to hold such a meeting would be during an office hour, such as {{User|Rob Linden}}'s (who I believe is the official wiki linden). We should create an agenda for such a meeting on a wiki page. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 01:13, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
::I'm wondering if Rob would prefer to have a small segment of his usual office hours put over to Wiki stuffages, or if he'd be able to have an entire slot dedicated to such a meeting.
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:14, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
::*'''Re:Aganda''': please add topics to [[Project:Editing Discussion/Wiki Meeting Agenda]]
::*'''Re:Time''': I would be fine with doing it at Rob's office hour but it seems to be some kind of ''open source meeting'' already, so I'm not sure if the other attendees would like to see their topics postponed.
::--[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 10 May 2008 (PDT)

User:Jumpman Gerje

2008-05-14T20:19:38Z

Jumpman Gerje: New page: ==I have age verified! please do not waste ur time.== I don't know who keeps makin Jumpman Lane verify his alts. Howver that avatar (Jumpman Lane has faxed LL his ident papers). Jumpman Ge...

==I have age verified! please do not waste ur time.==
I don't know who keeps makin Jumpman Lane verify his alts. Howver that avatar (Jumpman Lane has faxed LL his ident papers).
Jumpman Gerje is age verified online and all rest of my alts will be age verified soon.

User talk:JetZep Zabelin

2008-05-14T20:11:59Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* Vandalism? */

'''JetZep Zabelin'''

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== GCal ==

Please direct your attention to [[Talk:Office Hours#Google Calendar]]
:[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 12:05, 11 December 2007 (PST)
::[http://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASignpostMarv_Martin&diff=44483&oldid=43618 Got it]. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 14:53, 11 December 2007 (PST)

== re: [[L$ Marketplace]] ==

One one hand, I'd say no. The article isn't well written/coded, and seems too much of a non-neutral advertisement.

On the other hand, [[User:Zee Linden|Zee Linden]] made an edit.

[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 06:13, 21 February 2008 (PST)

:It looks like a directory of L$ resellers accepted by LL. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 16:56, 21 February 2008 (PST)

== Mentoring in the face of abuse ==

'''[[User:JetZep Zabelin/Mentoring in the face of abuse|Mentoring in the face of abuse]]''' - Feel free to give me your comments on the discussion page, or edit it yourself. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 06:51, 12 March 2008 (PDT)

==Vandalism?==
*:Your indescriminate deletion of much of the content on the User:Jumpman Lane actually constitutes vandalism as the blanket,cover-all charge of NONSENSE is unwarrented. For, example since when are pictures of the user considered superfulous? Nonsensical? Barring any exact guidelines as to what can and cannot be placed on a user page, and considering TORELY LINDEN CREATED A TUTORIAL ALLA BOUT MAKING SUCH PAGES (personal pics and all, please watch it lol) please refrain from your creative editing. Thankies (lmao).
--[[User:Jumpman Lane |Jumpman Lane]] 06:51, 14 March 2008 (EST)
*Since when do linx leading to websites owned by the user constitue nonsens on his page? Careful how you answer this as these sites are income genrating enterprises and your vandalism therefore becomes actionable in a court of law. Please refrain from maliscious activites in that space
--[[User:Jumpman Lane |Jumpman Lane]] 06:51, 14 March 2008 (EST)

== re: Win 2000 ==

Hey there!

True, it sucks, especially since I was thrown out of the community I spent the last year in, the mst3k theater was more or less the only place in sl which still gave me some joy at the moment.

About the Update: Apple officially stopped all Win2000 support, the Quicktime update will never arrive for me.

LL, by making this a required update, simply cut off windows 2000 users from watching movies. Yes, I know, the new www-sl-interface from the release canditate will change that whole situation again. In time. If they get it to run.

But - hey - after all LL allready announced stopping win2000 support completely at some point in the not so far future too, so there's really not much reason to still care too much.

{{unsigned|Kruge Kubrick|15:38, 12 March 2008}}

A short PS: With the forced Update postponed in the last moment due to the massive negative feedback on the 1.19 clients it, at least for a little while, is still possible to log in with older clients of the 1.18 line (I just tried the realxtent client, not having the old install files anymore) that don't turn off movie support if you can't update to the latest XP oply QT-Patch.

But keep in mind that the Quicktime patch is there for a reason - it fixes security leaks.

So, as a Win2000 user for now you still CAN watch movies in SL, as long as you keep in mind that this leaves one more security breach in your system. None is perfect, and I actually prefer a 2000 with the QT breach open to a Win XP or Vista, security-wise.

Maybe that's some info you and other mentors can use... :)
{{unsigned|Kruge Kubrick|14:08, 13 March 2008}}

:Not being able to watch movies in SL isn't that big a deal, regardless of the operating system.
:It's just a case of copying the media url from the viewer to your media player of choice- I personally use VLC, which gives me the ability to apply post-processing to the video :-)
:[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:40, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

::Ah, true - that'd be an option, if the owner of my favourite cinema is nice enough to give me the direct URL... And the VLC is my player of choice anyways. :) I just never thought about the fact that it is a mighty stream player as well... And with 2 monitors on my computer I could have full screen picture AND better picture quality (WAY better - boo quacktime! ;)) AND a view of the other avatars... Hmmm. :) Hey, thanks - that's a good tip!

::As said before, this of course relies on stream owners to be nice enough to give you the stream URL, but in smaller communities where ppl know each other a bit this might work.

::PPS: Sorry for not correctly formatting the wiki entries here, I have yet to check the syntax required... ;) Feel free to edit, if it's an eyesore for you.
--[[User:Kruge Kubrick|Kruge Kubrick]] 10:24, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

:::You do have access to the direct url. Enable admin options, go to About Land's media tab, then it's a simple copy & paste.
:::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 11:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

User:Jumpman Lane

2008-05-14T19:58:26Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* To be Discontinued */

'''Jumpman Lane''' (born May 5, 2007 in Second Life), is the founder and chief executive officer of Slut Magazine.

[[Image:Redone.jpg|500px]]

==Second Life's L'enfant Terrible==
[[Image:Bike 001.JPG‎|400px ]]

Jumpman NEVER for a second hesitates to put his foot deep in some tards crap! He doesn't look for trouble he IS trouble! From the second he logs on somebody asks wtf did you do? Why did ya do it! Blah blah blah!

===Jumpman Lane's Crimes===
Jumpman Lane’s Crimes

They just got me nailed to the wall! here is a list of meh crimes:

*G-team yappin!

:[11:45] Zara Linden: you were given a 14 day suspension for the wiki vandalism: abuse of support staff. i am sorry you didn't get the letter, but we will be happy to get that to you via a ticket.
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: er thanx
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: but can i ar him for vandalizin mine
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: im permabanned there and cant evcen fix mine
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: hehehehe
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: nvm
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: a joke
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: thanx zara
:[11:46] Zara Linden: np jumpman

*age veri requi!:

Dear Jumpman Lane,
It has come to our attention that you may be residing on the wrong
Second
Life grid. The adult grid is for people 18 years old and up. The teen
grid
is for people between 13 and 17 years of age.
We have put your account on hold pending confirmation of your age.

[[Image:Banned fc.jpg|500px]]

*griefing!:

:1.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on April 11, 2008 in the region of Innocence.
Violation: Disturbing the Peace: Repetitive Content, Spamming
Repeatedly and persistently transmitting undesired content,
whether by IM, chat, notecard, object or texture drop, or
email to another Resident.
The rules of conduct are interpreted with the broadest meaning
possible.
Discipline:
As a result of this violation, your Second Life account is
being temporarily suspended for a period of 7 days. It will
return to active status on Friday, Apr 18, 2008.

:2.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on March 26, 2008 in the region of Bangkok City.
Violation: Disturbing the Peace: Repetitive Content, Spamming
Repeatedly and persistently transmitting undesired content,
whether by IM, chat, notecard, object or texture drop, or
email to another Resident.
The rules of conduct are interpreted with the broadest meaning
possible.
Discipline:
No additional action is being taken at this time.
(note a 1 day ban for scripted objects is in meh jumpan avi that i cant acces now comin later!)
*TROLLIN forum whiny-baby tards!
:1.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on October 3, 2007 in the region of .
Violation: Forum Suspension: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We value an open environment in which residents feel free to
express themselves, even when their views may not be
popular.
From time to time we find we need to take disciplinary
action on the Second Life Forums, when someone is
determined after careful review to have violated either the
Second Life Community Standards of the Terms of Service.
Violation: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We believe in an honest and open free exchange of ideas,
and in always maintaining a respect for the opinions and
positions of other people. However, Flaming (posting a
message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack
a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same
topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an
intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of
inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are not allowed
in the Second Life Forums.
You have been suspended from Second Life and the SL Forums
for fourteen (14) days and will not be able to access the
forums or Second Life.

:2.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service.
Violation: Forum Suspension: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We value an open environment in which residents feel free to
express themselves, even when their views may not be
popular.
From time to time we find we need to take disciplinary
action on the Second Life Forums, when someone is
determined after careful review to have violated either the
Second Life Community Standards of the Terms of Service.
Violation: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We believe in an honest and open free exchange of ideas,
and in always maintaining a respect for the opinions and
positions of other people. However, Flaming (posting a
message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack
a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same
topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an
intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of
inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are not allowed
in the Second Life Forums.
You have been suspended from Second Life and the SL Forums
for fourteen (14) days and will not be able to access the
forums or Second Life.

===Jumpy's Enemies===
''"I'll bury these cockaroches!!!! -J. lane''
:These turdballs offended Jumpy in one manner or another and got a foot in their crack! need to ask where their sol ja ja ja ja jas at!
#Torley Linden (watermelon)
#DjQuad Radio (mentally crippled!)
#Starfighter Tammas (sebastion Contepomi's furry alt)
#sebastion Contepomi (Starfighter's gorean slave-boy alt)
#Myself Ah (crack-licker for prims)
#Phooka Oh (sell-out)
#Penn Euler (cry-baby)
#Chris Norse (sl forums crybaby and whimp!)
#The Forum Cartel (granny women all!)
#Jorel Rau (Bot!)
#Poland (a pack of furry tards!)
#JetZep Zabelin (furry alt? of a tard I know)

===The Great Watermelon War===
It all started with this lil article in Slut magazine...

[[Image:Excerpt2B1.jpg|750px]]

[[Image:Excert2B2.jpg|750px]]

Then that watermelon tard or one of his pals had Jump banned from the Library of prims and all of the Watermelon's watermelon patches.
AND To'ley vandalized THIS PAGE by inserting the crap pic below!

[[Image:Watermelon slice.jpg|250px]]

Well Jump retaliated by adding HOT pix of Jumpman Lane to To'ley's page and the foloowing recollection by the Great wata Wata himself:
:'''Well I met Jumpman Lane in a watermelon patch. We were smashing watermelons and pondering the meaning of life and regaling each other with all the hookers we have well...er you know... when we realized that TOGETHER we could take over the world...er which world we weren't sure of...so we decided Second Life would do. Me on the inside, Jump on the outside, he in a Spiderman suit, I disguised as a watermelon would bring JUSTICE to a cold world...er virtual world. So the legend has begun! We'll sort out the meaning of all this later!'''

Jump got a 14 day ban for this.
:'''Hi there,Linden Lab has reviewed, at your request, a discipline action recently taken against your account. Our investigation shows that the discipline was correctly applied. Your account has been suspended for 14 days for vandalizing Torley Linden's wiki page.If any further information is required, Linden Lab will contact you regarding this incident. Otherwise, please consider the matter resolved as no further communications will be sent. What to expect: Linden Lab examines each abuse incident independently. Linden Lab will not disclose the resolution of abuse/community standards violations with Second Life residents, except when necessary to introduce a new/amended policy. Linden Lab will not disclose incident details including (but not limited to): identity of the reporter, details of chat logs, resolution of incidents, suspensions/banning of Second Life residents. Best regards, Linden Lab and the Second Life Community team.'''

Those LL drones are nothing if not polite....

''"I suppose the boys in the Lab won this one:P!" _Jumpman Lane''

==Alts==
[[Image:Bane 003jpg.JPG|500px]]
===Bane Martinek===
(Pictured above)
:Technically Jumpman Lane is the alt of Bane Martinek. Yet, Bane was "city chic" and Jump was too much of a noob to fix him so he created Jumpman and named him for a tennis shoe in his closet. In fact, every nameable character Jump has ever played was named Bane. Sadly, Bane is to be shortly discontinued by Linden labs cause quote: ''"Screw them LL tards! I aint payin another 5USD to age verify nobody!" -Jump. Lane''

===To be Discontinued===
:all these were asked to age verify when Jumpwas out griefin Penn Euler with BreatheCutta Flow

#Bane Martinek (actually primary)
#Spook Tomorrow (Public Townscape Prim Thief)
#BreatheCutta Flow (Pt prim thief named after Jump's rl nephew)
#Keyshop Coker (christ what a name)
#nomads Dagger (suspected! origionally perhaps the sniffy sniffy man from pakistan used to grief in Abusers and Victems)
#Jumpman Spiegel (first of a zillion Jumpman alts)

'''To heck with that! I'm getting them all back!'''

===These are the Current and the New===
:...er someof them hehehehe! Jumpman Lane is only using alts named Jumpman inorder to confuse his enemies into thinking that ALL the Jumpmans on the grid are in fact alts of Jumpman Lane. Many, many, many more exist than these.

#Jumpman Drutman
#Jumpman Landau
#Jumpman Zipper
#Jumpman Landesbaum

==Quote==
*My name is Lane...I bring out hoes, all spit-shined and sparklin', and glitterin fullbright into the world! I'm standing in the middle of the MFSL with a mini gatlin, like Tommy Vercetti... on the run in San Fiero, like C.J. ...waitin on the endless summer, like Jimmy Hopkins.

*All eyes on me! L-A-N-E! And I'm Jumpy! And you can't be me! And I know that ain't fair!

*Cause i stay jay walkin! two threees one meh feet! i'm ready to set the whole MFSL on ablaze. You fire-proof or swimmin in gasoline

==Jump's Illegitamate Second Life Daughter==
===annie Juran===
[[Image:Hot.jpg|250px]] '''HotNsExy Whitfield'''
*mother:HotNsExy Whitfield (born 5-5-07 Jump's rezz day!) of Jump's
:a real live psycho who when she wasnt acting crazy, constantly hit Jump up for L$. One day she SWORE she was prego and wore a fat bellied avi for like all of two days then she intored Jump to annie who was a kid avi. Jump immediately tried to shoot the lil tard. Weeks later the kiddie porn Scare hit and annie was like 21 the next day!
*Now annie runs around half dressed lookin for excitement and keeps buggin Jump about appearin nude in Slut Magazine. Crap. As if Jump were a perve!

==Slut Magazine==

[[Image:Slutmagcover.jpg|500px]]

===Slut Magazine!===

Where dreams come true! Fullbright in Windlight! We spit shine and sparkle up only the prettiest avis for your titilation and edification! Keep ya eyes wide-peeled...and ENJOY!

===Staff===
''Editorial''
*Founder, Jumpman Lane
*Publisher, Luscioulumpchunks McMillian
*Editrix-in-Chief, Kimber Martinek
*Layout Editrix, Candace Flossburg (Ms. Can. Flo.)
*Circulation Editrix, Brooklyen Balut
*Editrix-at-Large, Roxana Fouquet

''Reportors and Photographers''
*Sillie Schmooz
*Kryztine Ballinger
*Dokan Dryssen
*Krystel Sands
*Jessy Lynch
*Sole Jie
*Vila Demonge

''Former Staff''
*Zelda Homewood (Crazy Zel), former editrix
*Lady Dawson, former publisher
*nomads Dagger, former reporter
*Bane martinek, former photographer
*Anfrey Tripsa, former reporter

===Slut's Hideaway===

[[Image:Crib 013jpeg.JPG|500px]]

*1 Slut Lane! Jumpy's crib in the cut! Where the magic happens! Slut Mag HQ! Where we spit shine and sparkle up hoes! Is you is or is you ain't invited! Only YOU know! AND I BUILT THAT! I am Lane...

==External linx==

* '''Slut Magazine''': [http://www.slutmaglane.com/

* '''Slut Magazine Blog''': [http://www.slutmagazine.blogspot.com/

* '''Slut Magazine Superstars''': [http://www.slutmaglane.ning.com/
* '''Second Life Search resident Jumpman Lane''':[http://world.secondlife.com/resident/ef410911-925e-4fc3-ab81-d1925fa4f70a

User talk:JetZep Zabelin

2008-05-14T19:47:34Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* Mentoring in the face of abuse */

'''JetZep Zabelin'''

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:: --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]]

----

== GCal ==

Please direct your attention to [[Talk:Office Hours#Google Calendar]]
:[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 12:05, 11 December 2007 (PST)
::[http://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASignpostMarv_Martin&diff=44483&oldid=43618 Got it]. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 14:53, 11 December 2007 (PST)

== re: [[L$ Marketplace]] ==

One one hand, I'd say no. The article isn't well written/coded, and seems too much of a non-neutral advertisement.

On the other hand, [[User:Zee Linden|Zee Linden]] made an edit.

[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 06:13, 21 February 2008 (PST)

:It looks like a directory of L$ resellers accepted by LL. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 16:56, 21 February 2008 (PST)

== Mentoring in the face of abuse ==

'''[[User:JetZep Zabelin/Mentoring in the face of abuse|Mentoring in the face of abuse]]''' - Feel free to give me your comments on the discussion page, or edit it yourself. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 06:51, 12 March 2008 (PDT)

==Vandalism?==
:Your indescriminate deletion of much of the content on the User:Jumpman Lane actually constitutes vandalism as the blanket,cover-all charge of NONSENSE is unwarrented. For, example since when are pictures of the user considered superfulous? Nonsensical? Barring any exact guidelines as to what can and cannot be placed on a user page, and considering TORELY LINDEN CREATED A TUTORIAL ALLA BOUT MAKING SUCH PAGES (personal pics and all, please watch it lol) please refrain from your creative editing. Thankies (lmao).
--[[User:Jumpman Lane |Jumpman Lane]] 06:51, 14 March 2008 (EST)

== re: Win 2000 ==

Hey there!

True, it sucks, especially since I was thrown out of the community I spent the last year in, the mst3k theater was more or less the only place in sl which still gave me some joy at the moment.

About the Update: Apple officially stopped all Win2000 support, the Quicktime update will never arrive for me.

LL, by making this a required update, simply cut off windows 2000 users from watching movies. Yes, I know, the new www-sl-interface from the release canditate will change that whole situation again. In time. If they get it to run.

But - hey - after all LL allready announced stopping win2000 support completely at some point in the not so far future too, so there's really not much reason to still care too much.

{{unsigned|Kruge Kubrick|15:38, 12 March 2008}}

A short PS: With the forced Update postponed in the last moment due to the massive negative feedback on the 1.19 clients it, at least for a little while, is still possible to log in with older clients of the 1.18 line (I just tried the realxtent client, not having the old install files anymore) that don't turn off movie support if you can't update to the latest XP oply QT-Patch.

But keep in mind that the Quicktime patch is there for a reason - it fixes security leaks.

So, as a Win2000 user for now you still CAN watch movies in SL, as long as you keep in mind that this leaves one more security breach in your system. None is perfect, and I actually prefer a 2000 with the QT breach open to a Win XP or Vista, security-wise.

Maybe that's some info you and other mentors can use... :)
{{unsigned|Kruge Kubrick|14:08, 13 March 2008}}

:Not being able to watch movies in SL isn't that big a deal, regardless of the operating system.
:It's just a case of copying the media url from the viewer to your media player of choice- I personally use VLC, which gives me the ability to apply post-processing to the video :-)
:[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:40, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

::Ah, true - that'd be an option, if the owner of my favourite cinema is nice enough to give me the direct URL... And the VLC is my player of choice anyways. :) I just never thought about the fact that it is a mighty stream player as well... And with 2 monitors on my computer I could have full screen picture AND better picture quality (WAY better - boo quacktime! ;)) AND a view of the other avatars... Hmmm. :) Hey, thanks - that's a good tip!

::As said before, this of course relies on stream owners to be nice enough to give you the stream URL, but in smaller communities where ppl know each other a bit this might work.

::PPS: Sorry for not correctly formatting the wiki entries here, I have yet to check the syntax required... ;) Feel free to edit, if it's an eyesore for you.
--[[User:Kruge Kubrick|Kruge Kubrick]] 10:24, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

:::You do have access to the direct url. Enable admin options, go to About Land's media tab, then it's a simple copy & paste.
:::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 11:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

Project:Editing Discussion/Archive 02

2008-05-14T19:30:43Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* User page content policy */

This is an open forum for people to discuss this wiki, ala the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump Wikipedia "Village pump"]. This is ''not'' for general discussion of Second Life. For that, please refer to [http://forums.secondlife.com/ the forums]

Feel free to add your comments below.

== What should this be called? ==

I used "Village pump" as a working name. If it sticks, that's fine. I thought about using a Second Life themed name (e.g. The Telehub), but then realized that there could be confusion between that page and a future [[Telehub]] page which actually describes what Telehubs are. Maybe the "Hippo Pond"? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:29, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

:That names sounds ok, but what should the namespace be? -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 18:44, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

::I'm using the same guidelines as other wikis (like Wikipedia's village pump, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project:Village_pump ), though I'll admit it's a little confusing in this case. One really irritating thing about MediaWiki is that it assumes that the name of the wiki ("Second Life Wiki") is a term that is appropriate to use as a namespace identifier, because it works for Wikipedia. So, we either have to shorten the name of the wiki ("SLWiki", which I think was already being used by someone else), or use "Project". I opted for the latter in configuring this wiki. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 10:55, 14 May 2007 (PDT)

== Guidelines ==

Given past experiences with the forums, some moderation will need to be done. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 18:44, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

I suggest keeping it simple. If it is the only SL Forum call it 'SL Forum'. If it is the SL People's Forum then call it that.Errol Carter

== Purpose ==

How does this 'forum' differ from the Second Life Forum? (except that this one is accessable by free-accounts)--[[User:Vernes Veranes|Vernes Veranes]] 18:14, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

:This is specifically a place to discuss the wiki itself, not Second Life generally. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:19, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

== Policy Section ==

* To discuss existing and proposed policies

===Licensing===

:'''Q.''' Residents have begun to [[Sculpted_Prims:_Sculpt_Maps_and_Textures|share sculpt maps, textures, and sculpted prims]] on the wiki. According to the [[Project:General_disclaimer|General Disclaimer]], "Linden Lab will make your contribution available under the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ Creative Comments (sic) Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license]". (cf. [[Project:Contribution_Agreement|Contribution Agreement]] and the [[Project:Copyrights|Copyrights Project]]). Will residents be able to choose other licenses (a different ''Creative Commons'' license, GPL, or the [http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/ Free Art License] for example) if they wish to do so? — [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]] 01:08, 4 June 2007 (PDT)

:: '''A.''': No, not if you host it here. It's just too complicated. You may link to differently licensed material, but please don't expect to choose your own license for information you upload here. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 11:35, 18 July 2007 (PDT)

===Project page vs. Project discussion page===

:Discussion should occur on the discussion page; with this '''project''' page itself being an overview rather than the actual discussion.
:
:Is this correct? --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 20:01, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

::Well, this page is kind of the exception to the rule, since it's specifically identified as a discussion page. But yes, in general, discussion should go on the discussion page. I thought about putting a redirect from here straight to [[Project talk:Editing Discussion]], but thought better of it. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 20:59, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

===Persistent Logins===
:'''Q.''' Can we please have persistent logins here? I really don't see the need for having to log in each time, it's annoying; but even more annoying is being in the middle of an edit, getting called away, coming back, finishing the edit, clicking the Preview button...only to be told you need to log in to edit, and all the work you've done is gone. [[User:Siann Beck|Siann Beck]] 16:57, 9 October 2007 (PDT)

::'''A.''': Logins should be persistent for 24 hrs. It could be that our sysadmins needed to reset the sessions, which could lead to the probelm you describe. A workaround for the problem (in Firefox, at least) if it happens again is this:
::* Leave the "you need to log in to edit" screen up
::* Open the login link ''in a new window''
::* Hit reload in the first window. In Firefox, this causes you to get prompted to repost form data. Click "ok".
::Sorry that you lost your edits. I know that's frustrating. There are also form saving plugins for various browsers, as well ([http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/user-scripts/auto-save-forms-user-script/ Firefox Auto Save], for example) -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 17:18, 9 October 2007 (PDT)

:::Why expire them at all? Can't we have a "Keep me signed in" checkbox on the login page? I'm the only person who uses my computer; I see no need for me to have to log in every day. [[User:Siann Beck|Siann Beck]] 04:54, 11 October 2007 (PDT)

== NewbieNotes ==
For some time a call has been made to the general public to modify and simplify the Wiki. NewbieNotes is a response to that, a section for new and experienced scripters alike that is dedicated to explaining LsL in simple English. While in some instances NewbieNotes duplicate some information, it attempts to do so in an easier-to-understand manner for inexperienced scripters (or experienced scripters who are tearing their hair out over some glitch or quirk). NewbieNotes speak plain English and attempt to overcome the "techno-geek-speak" syndrome so often found throughout tech manuals. The NewbieNote Motto: "One simple phrase is better than twelve complex ones".

:Barring a counter proposal I will work this into the LSL page style sometime in this week. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 15:30, 26 February 2008 (PST)

== Sandbox namespace? ==
At the [[Open_Source_Meeting/2007-11-08|open source meeting on 2007-11-08]], we spent a fair amount of time talking about how wiki.secondlife.com would be used for [[Architecture Working Group]] proposals.

A problem that we have right now (and one that existed before AWG, but became more acute now) is that we at Linden Lab host the wiki primarily as a resource to collaborate with the community on documentation and code designs. As a result, we think that people are coming to the wiki with the hope that they're going to find either material that documents Second Life as it is or soon will be, or with roadmap material that Linden Lab had some hand in creating. While a wiki is always more of a "reader beware" zone than many places on the Internet, we'd like to aspire to keeping the main namespace as an area tailored to our intended audience.

That said, we don't mind providing an area for people not affiliated with Linden Lab to collaborate on material that they hope to get Linden Lab's buy-in of, but haven't gotten it yet (within reason). We just want to make sure that material is in a different spot, and is clearly marked as such. Our current solution is to move that type of material into the User: namespace for the person who started the document. However, there are a number of shared documents that don't have an obvious home.

So, I'm dabbling with the idea of creating a new "Sandbox" namespace, where this material would be, and where Lindens can move things rather than delete them. This wouldn't be an unbounded area; we'd still expect people to follow the [[Project:Editing Guidelines]], but would be a little more open to technical proposals that we don't agree with but were made in good faith.

Thoughts? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:28, 8 November 2007 (PST)

: How about a "kitty litter" namespace? :)

: Are things in Category:Design Discussions problematic as well? If I look at [[LSL To Client Communication]] it's pretty clear to me that this is a proposal. With AWG, everything is a proposal, so maybe it's not clear on every page.

: I don't think adding a "Sandbox:" to the page title would really make a difference to someone unfamiliar with the Wiki. Unless it says "User:" it's not clear that this is one individual's unsupported vision. Wouldn't it make sense to move the stuff to the "Discussion:" page though? [[User:Mm Alder|Mm Alder]] 16:01, 12 November 2007 (PST)

:: I may revert back to my original proposal, which is to start tagging things with a <nowiki>{{unofficial}}</nowiki> template, and ask people to do this (and to chip in on the tagging effort). The template could be something along the lines of:

<div style='padding: 5px; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; border: solid 1px #3c78b5; background-color: #D8E4F1;'>This is a Resident-authored proposal, and does not necessarily represent the current state of Second Life or Linden Lab's immediate plans for Second Life.</div>

:: It seems like we should try to provide some clue to help distinguish the two types of content. "Sandbox:" might still be handy. To a newcomer, it would likely connote that ''something'' is a little different about this page. They may not know exactly what, but they'd hopefully be a little more inclined to investigating further before internalizing the information as factual information about Second Life. Would "Proposal:" be a better name? I think in either case (Sandbox: or Proposal:), there would be cases where Linden Lab would use this namespace, too, but would move the document out of "Proposal:" when the document represents the plan of record. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 17:01, 12 November 2007 (PST)

== WikiHUD ==

Hello, I've begun creating a utility for [http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/WikiHUD reading wiki pages in world] to fully support this wiki I need to know where the api.php is, so that search and other functions against api.php work. Presently only reading articles works (summary and full modes) because these are against index.php. The code is open source and the object in world is full permissions.

[[User:Lillie Yifu|Lillie Yifu]] 18:15, 15 February 2008 (PST)

== Creating a Help portal ==

*--I'm interested in making a new portal for General SL Help, for newbies, for veterans, etc. It sounds like I can just make one myself? Do I need Linden approval first (the Editing Guidelines page says "New portals may be added at any time, subject to the discretion of Linden Lab")? Will it automatically appear on the Main Page or do I have to request someone to edit the Main Page? My new portal would have pages like these:
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Second_Life_Help_Portal
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Introduction
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 16:18, 26 February 2008 (PST)

:: I discussed this topic with [[User:Jon Linden|Jon Linden]] and [[User:Jeremy Linden|Jeremy Linden]], and they're generally interested in the concept. Please work with them to develop it, in general I think this is a great thing. -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:00, 28 February 2008 (PST)

*--(be patient, I'm no wiki expert) Also, it looks like we are not trying to separate subject matter via namespaces (well, I see a few spots where we are)? Or has there been a consensus we'd like to start doing that? For instance, I'm going to create a lot of help text. There will be overlap in desired article names...like what a Notecard article should be for me in that context is far different from the Open Source interest in a [[Notecard]] article (take a look at theirs). I can just make my article name different ("Notecard (general help)"?)...unless we've decided we want to go forward with separation by namespace. I'm concerned a general member comes here to lookup Notecard and gets a surprising article to them (it all depends on who the person is coming to the wiki what they expect). Are we better off with not separating by namespaces and using default pages with disambiguation pages?
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 09:40, 28 February 2008 (PST)

:: I think it's good to add general end-user information to that page, and to relegate developer-focused information to a "developers" section or separate it out onto its own page. Don't assume that every page that's currently there needs to be preserved as it is or in the format that it's currently in. The particular page that you cite ([[Notecards]]) is a great example of a relatively content-free stub without a lot of good information on it, so to borrow from Wikipedia, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD be bold!] -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 18:00, 28 February 2008 (PST)

:::*--Ach, but then if I rename "their" Notecard page to Developer:Notecard or Notecard (for developers), then I have to go update all the links :P I only have so much time to do wiki stuff :P
::::--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 11:20, 29 February 2008 (PST)

::::: I'd recommend relegating it to a page section rather than a wholly separate page. You can have a disclaimer note right at the top of the section saying "This information is likely only of interest to software developers". Since this might be a common thing to do, a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates template] may be appropriate.

::::: Even if you move it to it's own page, it's not necessarily your job to update the links. You should merely just make sure that the page is findable from the new Notecards page. A good example of the technique is on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington Wikipedia page "Washington"], which is a page about Washington state, but there's a link right at the top to the Washington DC article. Make sense? -- [[User:Rob Linden|Rob Linden]] 11:45, 29 February 2008 (PST)

::::::*--Good ideas all, thanks! I now have 6 pages of articles I'm playing with in my user space, if you're interested to see what's on them all, visit https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Jaszon_Maynard/Jaszons_sandbox
:::::::--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 12:02, 29 February 2008 (PST)

*--Rob, Jeremy brought up something after you left. He's concerned about newbie's experience on the wiki. Not just whether the layout can be made simple enough, but also the issue of what happens when they search for a topic and some of the hits come back that are regarding technical slants on the subject (i.e.--like the [[notecard]] article; which, of course, we can alter). Do you think this is a problem? Is it an argument in favor of namespaces? With a search that defaults to searching only in the namespace that has the general SL user help (main namespace?)?
:--Also, do you know if Jon or Jeremy accept email or visit the wiki or any forums in case I want to run a thought or question by them?
:--[[User:Jaszon Maynard|Jaszon Maynard]] 17:42, 29 February 2008 (PST)
::It's not as if the default search preferences can't be altered or anything....
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:29, 1 March 2008 (PST)

== Template:Delete ==
In regards to variouse wiki- and inworld discussions, I added a template ([[Template:Delete]]) that marks articles as ''suggested for deletion'', adds them to the [[:Category:Suggested For Deletion]] and provides the chance to start a discussion about pros and cons of the deletion at a subpage of [[Suggested For Deletion]]. This is thought to be for articles that are created accidentally, that violate copyrights, that flame other users ([[I hate User XY]]) or anything else where a simple moveing of the article (redirect) or clean-up isn't addressing the root of the problem. So I would be happy if users who'd like to have a look at quality ensurance of the wiki, as well as administrators could have an eye on it.<br>
THX =) --[[User:Zai Lynch|Zai Lynch]] 04:50, 6 April 2008 (PDT)

== User page content policy ==
*Is there a guideline/policy which discusses acceptable content/use of userpages, such as mature content[http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Image:Slutmagcover.jpg] ... ? --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 14:07, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
*Since when is mature content barred form sl (and the avovementioned pic is rrather tame. Too mature or not it is NOT nonsense as it is a product produced in and out world by Jumpman Lane and has a legitmate place in Second Life (porn is not prohibited) and on the User:Jumpman Lane page (he produces it).
[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] 14:07, 14, May 2008 (EST)

*ARE there ANY guidlines/policies which detail of WHAT exactly constitutes NONSENSE. JetZep Zabelin indiscriminately erased the entire contents of the User:Jumpman Lane Page blanket labelleing it all NONSENSE?!?!(this would seem to constitute vandalism). Baring exact guidlines, I do have a few simple questions. How could pictures of Jumpman Lane be considered nonsense on the Jumpman Lane page,being replaced by THE EXAMPLE PICTURE (which can be changed at anytime by anyone to anything.
[[User:Jumpman Lane|Jumpman Lane]] 14:07, 14, May 2008 (EST)

== Wiki Meeting in world? ==
I would consider it ''really'' useful to have some kind of in world meeting about the Wiki (at least once). I don't think we would run out of topics with this... For example the privously mentioned content policy could be one. Another one could be: The Wiki grew to a point where it seems to be useful to translate not even articles but although portals. There are variouse attempts in progress in peoples sandboxes and even in the main namespace. However, this would need additional guidelines to not end up in a total chaos ''imho''. One solution could be {{Jira|WEB-456}}. Otherwise we would need to talk about stuff like: Are categorized redirects (like the one I made [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Waffen&redirect=no here]) appropriate in order to keep topics in a category in a certain language? It can't be intendet that a user who is lacking english skills got to search for the english topic regarding his concern so he can browse via [[Template:Multi-lang]] to his language. This would also cause a bulk creation of new redirects for non-english keywords what might lead into confusion, since the wiki is growing and a typo in an english keyword might be the right translation of a keyword in another language (but for a totally different topic). Another one could be: Is it useful to use the ''Help:'' namespace for SL help like it is done atm? This namespace is filtered by the Wikis search function by default (at least that's the way it is now). I think there might be way more topics bothering people and it would be nice to have some inworld chat with users and administrators in charge. This meeting could be announced somewhere on the [[Main Page]] so the ones who might have an interest in such a meeting (read: the ones who frequently edit the wiki) might stumble upon it. We could create an agenda page where people can add the topics they'd like to see discussed so users can prepare some thoughts on the topic previouse to the meeting itself. Would anyone else think that this is useful? --[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 04:56, 9 May 2008 (PDT)
:Oh, forgot to add:
:It is currently not allowed to transfere content from the support portal to the wiki due to copyright issues (see question 4 and 9 of [http://vteamblog.com/2008/03/24/qa-support-portal-with-maurice-linden/ this Q&A transcript]). So I would like to see either the wiki copyright or the support portal copyright beeing changed so content can be easily transfered. I would not like to see the Wiki change away from the current ''Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0'' license so maybe a support portal Linden might want to attend at such a meeting as well to give a statement on possible license changes. --[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 05:12, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

:The best time to hold such a meeting would be during an office hour, such as {{User|Rob Linden}}'s (who I believe is the official wiki linden). We should create an agenda for such a meeting on a wiki page. -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 01:13, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
::I'm wondering if Rob would prefer to have a small segment of his usual office hours put over to Wiki stuffages, or if he'd be able to have an entire slot dedicated to such a meeting.
::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:14, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
::*'''Re:Aganda''': please add topics to [[Project:Editing Discussion/Wiki Meeting Agenda]]
::*'''Re:Time''': I would be fine with doing it at Rob's office hour but it seems to be some kind of ''open source meeting'' already, so I'm not sure if the other attendees would like to see their topics postponed.
::--[[User:Zai_Lynch|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch|contribs]])</sup> 07:18, 10 May 2008 (PDT)

User:Jumpman Lane

2008-05-14T19:19:35Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* Jumpy's Enemies */

'''Jumpman Lane''' (born May 5, 2007 in Second Life), is the founder and chief executive officer of Slut Magazine.

[[Image:Redone.jpg|500px]]

==Second Life's L'enfant Terrible==
[[Image:Bike 001.JPG‎|400px ]]

Jumpman NEVER for a second hesitates to put his foot deep in some tards crap! He doesn't look for trouble he IS trouble! From the second he logs on somebody asks wtf did you do? Why did ya do it! Blah blah blah!

===Jumpman Lane's Crimes===
Jumpman Lane’s Crimes

They just got me nailed to the wall! here is a list of meh crimes:

*G-team yappin!

:[11:45] Zara Linden: you were given a 14 day suspension for the wiki vandalism: abuse of support staff. i am sorry you didn't get the letter, but we will be happy to get that to you via a ticket.
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: er thanx
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: but can i ar him for vandalizin mine
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: im permabanned there and cant evcen fix mine
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: hehehehe
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: nvm
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: a joke
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: thanx zara
:[11:46] Zara Linden: np jumpman

*age veri requi!:

Dear Jumpman Lane,
It has come to our attention that you may be residing on the wrong
Second
Life grid. The adult grid is for people 18 years old and up. The teen
grid
is for people between 13 and 17 years of age.
We have put your account on hold pending confirmation of your age.

[[Image:Banned fc.jpg|500px]]

*griefing!:

:1.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on April 11, 2008 in the region of Innocence.
Violation: Disturbing the Peace: Repetitive Content, Spamming
Repeatedly and persistently transmitting undesired content,
whether by IM, chat, notecard, object or texture drop, or
email to another Resident.
The rules of conduct are interpreted with the broadest meaning
possible.
Discipline:
As a result of this violation, your Second Life account is
being temporarily suspended for a period of 7 days. It will
return to active status on Friday, Apr 18, 2008.

:2.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on March 26, 2008 in the region of Bangkok City.
Violation: Disturbing the Peace: Repetitive Content, Spamming
Repeatedly and persistently transmitting undesired content,
whether by IM, chat, notecard, object or texture drop, or
email to another Resident.
The rules of conduct are interpreted with the broadest meaning
possible.
Discipline:
No additional action is being taken at this time.
(note a 1 day ban for scripted objects is in meh jumpan avi that i cant acces now comin later!)
*TROLLIN forum whiny-baby tards!
:1.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on October 3, 2007 in the region of .
Violation: Forum Suspension: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We value an open environment in which residents feel free to
express themselves, even when their views may not be
popular.
From time to time we find we need to take disciplinary
action on the Second Life Forums, when someone is
determined after careful review to have violated either the
Second Life Community Standards of the Terms of Service.
Violation: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We believe in an honest and open free exchange of ideas,
and in always maintaining a respect for the opinions and
positions of other people. However, Flaming (posting a
message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack
a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same
topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an
intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of
inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are not allowed
in the Second Life Forums.
You have been suspended from Second Life and the SL Forums
for fourteen (14) days and will not be able to access the
forums or Second Life.

:2.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service.
Violation: Forum Suspension: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We value an open environment in which residents feel free to
express themselves, even when their views may not be
popular.
From time to time we find we need to take disciplinary
action on the Second Life Forums, when someone is
determined after careful review to have violated either the
Second Life Community Standards of the Terms of Service.
Violation: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We believe in an honest and open free exchange of ideas,
and in always maintaining a respect for the opinions and
positions of other people. However, Flaming (posting a
message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack
a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same
topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an
intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of
inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are not allowed
in the Second Life Forums.
You have been suspended from Second Life and the SL Forums
for fourteen (14) days and will not be able to access the
forums or Second Life.

===Jumpy's Enemies===
''"I'll bury these cockaroches!!!! -J. lane''
:These turdballs offended Jumpy in one manner or another and got a foot in their crack! need to ask where their sol ja ja ja ja jas at!
#Torley Linden (watermelon)
#DjQuad Radio (mentally crippled!)
#Starfighter Tammas (sebastion Contepomi's furry alt)
#sebastion Contepomi (Starfighter's gorean slave-boy alt)
#Myself Ah (crack-licker for prims)
#Phooka Oh (sell-out)
#Penn Euler (cry-baby)
#Chris Norse (sl forums crybaby and whimp!)
#The Forum Cartel (granny women all!)
#Jorel Rau (Bot!)
#Poland (a pack of furry tards!)
#JetZep Zabelin (furry alt? of a tard I know)

===The Great Watermelon War===
It all started with this lil article in Slut magazine...

[[Image:Excerpt2B1.jpg|750px]]

[[Image:Excert2B2.jpg|750px]]

Then that watermelon tard or one of his pals had Jump banned from the Library of prims and all of the Watermelon's watermelon patches.
AND To'ley vandalized THIS PAGE by inserting the crap pic below!

[[Image:Watermelon slice.jpg|250px]]

Well Jump retaliated by adding HOT pix of Jumpman Lane to To'ley's page and the foloowing recollection by the Great wata Wata himself:
:'''Well I met Jumpman Lane in a watermelon patch. We were smashing watermelons and pondering the meaning of life and regaling each other with all the hookers we have well...er you know... when we realized that TOGETHER we could take over the world...er which world we weren't sure of...so we decided Second Life would do. Me on the inside, Jump on the outside, he in a Spiderman suit, I disguised as a watermelon would bring JUSTICE to a cold world...er virtual world. So the legend has begun! We'll sort out the meaning of all this later!'''

Jump got a 14 day ban for this.
:'''Hi there,Linden Lab has reviewed, at your request, a discipline action recently taken against your account. Our investigation shows that the discipline was correctly applied. Your account has been suspended for 14 days for vandalizing Torley Linden's wiki page.If any further information is required, Linden Lab will contact you regarding this incident. Otherwise, please consider the matter resolved as no further communications will be sent. What to expect: Linden Lab examines each abuse incident independently. Linden Lab will not disclose the resolution of abuse/community standards violations with Second Life residents, except when necessary to introduce a new/amended policy. Linden Lab will not disclose incident details including (but not limited to): identity of the reporter, details of chat logs, resolution of incidents, suspensions/banning of Second Life residents. Best regards, Linden Lab and the Second Life Community team.'''

Those LL drones are nothing if not polite....

''"I suppose the boys in the Lab won this one:P!" _Jumpman Lane''

==Alts==
[[Image:Bane 003jpg.JPG|500px]]
===Bane Martinek===
(Pictured above)
:Technically Jumpman Lane is the alt of Bane Martinek. Yet, Bane was "city chic" and Jump was too much of a noob to fix him so he created Jumpman and named him for a tennis shoe in his closet. In fact, every nameable character Jump has ever played was named Bane. Sadly, Bane is to be shortly discontinued by Linden labs cause quote: ''"Screw them LL tards! I aint payin another 5USD to age verify nobody!" -Jump. Lane''

===To be Discontinued===
:all these were asked to age verify when Jumpwas out griefin Penn Euler with BreatheCutta Flow

#Bane Martinek (actually primary)
#Spook Tomorrow (Public Townscape Prim Thief)
#BreatheCutta Flow (Pt prim thief named after Jump's rl nephew)
#Keyshop Coker (christ what a name)
#nomads Dagger (suspected! origionally perhaps the sniffy sniffy man from pakistan used to grief in Abusers and Victems)
#Jumpman Spiegel (first of a zillion Jumpman alts)

===These are the Current and the New===
:...er someof them hehehehe! Jumpman Lane is only using alts named Jumpman inorder to confuse his enemies into thinking that ALL the Jumpmans on the grid are in fact alts of Jumpman Lane. Many, many, many more exist than these.

#Jumpman Drutman
#Jumpman Landau
#Jumpman Zipper
#Jumpman Landesbaum

==Quote==
*My name is Lane...I bring out hoes, all spit-shined and sparklin', and glitterin fullbright into the world! I'm standing in the middle of the MFSL with a mini gatlin, like Tommy Vercetti... on the run in San Fiero, like C.J. ...waitin on the endless summer, like Jimmy Hopkins.

*All eyes on me! L-A-N-E! And I'm Jumpy! And you can't be me! And I know that ain't fair!

*Cause i stay jay walkin! two threees one meh feet! i'm ready to set the whole MFSL on ablaze. You fire-proof or swimmin in gasoline

==Jump's Illegitamate Second Life Daughter==
===annie Juran===
[[Image:Hot.jpg|250px]] '''HotNsExy Whitfield'''
*mother:HotNsExy Whitfield (born 5-5-07 Jump's rezz day!) of Jump's
:a real live psycho who when she wasnt acting crazy, constantly hit Jump up for L$. One day she SWORE she was prego and wore a fat bellied avi for like all of two days then she intored Jump to annie who was a kid avi. Jump immediately tried to shoot the lil tard. Weeks later the kiddie porn Scare hit and annie was like 21 the next day!
*Now annie runs around half dressed lookin for excitement and keeps buggin Jump about appearin nude in Slut Magazine. Crap. As if Jump were a perve!

==Slut Magazine==

[[Image:Slutmagcover.jpg|500px]]

===Slut Magazine!===

Where dreams come true! Fullbright in Windlight! We spit shine and sparkle up only the prettiest avis for your titilation and edification! Keep ya eyes wide-peeled...and ENJOY!

===Staff===
''Editorial''
*Founder, Jumpman Lane
*Publisher, Luscioulumpchunks McMillian
*Editrix-in-Chief, Kimber Martinek
*Layout Editrix, Candace Flossburg (Ms. Can. Flo.)
*Circulation Editrix, Brooklyen Balut
*Editrix-at-Large, Roxana Fouquet

''Reportors and Photographers''
*Sillie Schmooz
*Kryztine Ballinger
*Dokan Dryssen
*Krystel Sands
*Jessy Lynch
*Sole Jie
*Vila Demonge

''Former Staff''
*Zelda Homewood (Crazy Zel), former editrix
*Lady Dawson, former publisher
*nomads Dagger, former reporter
*Bane martinek, former photographer
*Anfrey Tripsa, former reporter

===Slut's Hideaway===

[[Image:Crib 013jpeg.JPG|500px]]

*1 Slut Lane! Jumpy's crib in the cut! Where the magic happens! Slut Mag HQ! Where we spit shine and sparkle up hoes! Is you is or is you ain't invited! Only YOU know! AND I BUILT THAT! I am Lane...

==External linx==

* '''Slut Magazine''': [http://www.slutmaglane.com/

* '''Slut Magazine Blog''': [http://www.slutmagazine.blogspot.com/

* '''Slut Magazine Superstars''': [http://www.slutmaglane.ning.com/
* '''Second Life Search resident Jumpman Lane''':[http://world.secondlife.com/resident/ef410911-925e-4fc3-ab81-d1925fa4f70a

User talk:JetZep Zabelin

2008-05-14T19:17:32Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* Mentoring in the face of abuse */

'''JetZep Zabelin'''

Click the <span style="color:blue; font-family: Arial; font-variant: small-caps;">+</span> button above to leave me a message.

== Note ==

[[Image:JetZep Zabelin 003.jpg|300px|right|JetZep Zabelin]]

: * ''If you do not have a Second Life account you can [http://secondlife.com/join sign-up] for free.''
: * ''Please allow several days to a week or more for my response, as I do not always login to the [http://wiki.secondlife.com Second Life Wiki].''
: * ''Urgent messages can be sent to me as [https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=4030 Instant Message] within Second Life. I get all of them.''
: * ''If you need help, contact [http://secure-web10.secondlife.com/community/support.php Second Life Support]. Other residents at [[Help Island]] may be able to help you. If you find me there and I am not too busy, I may be able to assist you. However, if your problem is serious contact [http://secure-web10.secondlife.com/community/support.php Second Life Support].
: * ''Only use this discussion page to contact me regarding this [http://wiki.secondlife.com Second Life wiki]. All other inquiries can be sent to me through [https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=4030 Instant Message] in [http://secondlife.com Second Life]. Please abide by Second Life [http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php Community Standards]. I am not required to respond to some messages and I will be managing this discussion page to keep it open and relatively clear so that I may collaborate with friends here in Second Life.''

:: --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]]

----

== GCal ==

Please direct your attention to [[Talk:Office Hours#Google Calendar]]
:[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 12:05, 11 December 2007 (PST)
::[http://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASignpostMarv_Martin&diff=44483&oldid=43618 Got it]. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 14:53, 11 December 2007 (PST)

== re: [[L$ Marketplace]] ==

One one hand, I'd say no. The article isn't well written/coded, and seems too much of a non-neutral advertisement.

On the other hand, [[User:Zee Linden|Zee Linden]] made an edit.

[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 06:13, 21 February 2008 (PST)

:It looks like a directory of L$ resellers accepted by LL. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 16:56, 21 February 2008 (PST)

== Mentoring in the face of abuse ==

* '''[[User:JetZep Zabelin/Mentoring in the face of abuse|Mentoring in the face of abuse]]''' - Feel free to give me your comments on the discussion page, or edit it yourself. --[[User:JetZep Zabelin|JetZep Zabelin]] 06:51, 12 March 2008 (PDT)

*Quick question: what constitutes abuse. Stay off of the User:Jumpman Lane page. It is how HE wants it. And are you one of his enemies (many!) alt? Keep ur personal vendettas persnoal please. Thankies! lmao

== re: Win 2000 ==

Hey there!

True, it sucks, especially since I was thrown out of the community I spent the last year in, the mst3k theater was more or less the only place in sl which still gave me some joy at the moment.

About the Update: Apple officially stopped all Win2000 support, the Quicktime update will never arrive for me.

LL, by making this a required update, simply cut off windows 2000 users from watching movies. Yes, I know, the new www-sl-interface from the release canditate will change that whole situation again. In time. If they get it to run.

But - hey - after all LL allready announced stopping win2000 support completely at some point in the not so far future too, so there's really not much reason to still care too much.

{{unsigned|Kruge Kubrick|15:38, 12 March 2008}}

A short PS: With the forced Update postponed in the last moment due to the massive negative feedback on the 1.19 clients it, at least for a little while, is still possible to log in with older clients of the 1.18 line (I just tried the realxtent client, not having the old install files anymore) that don't turn off movie support if you can't update to the latest XP oply QT-Patch.

But keep in mind that the Quicktime patch is there for a reason - it fixes security leaks.

So, as a Win2000 user for now you still CAN watch movies in SL, as long as you keep in mind that this leaves one more security breach in your system. None is perfect, and I actually prefer a 2000 with the QT breach open to a Win XP or Vista, security-wise.

Maybe that's some info you and other mentors can use... :)
{{unsigned|Kruge Kubrick|14:08, 13 March 2008}}

:Not being able to watch movies in SL isn't that big a deal, regardless of the operating system.
:It's just a case of copying the media url from the viewer to your media player of choice- I personally use VLC, which gives me the ability to apply post-processing to the video :-)
:[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 07:40, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

::Ah, true - that'd be an option, if the owner of my favourite cinema is nice enough to give me the direct URL... And the VLC is my player of choice anyways. :) I just never thought about the fact that it is a mighty stream player as well... And with 2 monitors on my computer I could have full screen picture AND better picture quality (WAY better - boo quacktime! ;)) AND a view of the other avatars... Hmmm. :) Hey, thanks - that's a good tip!

::As said before, this of course relies on stream owners to be nice enough to give you the stream URL, but in smaller communities where ppl know each other a bit this might work.

::PPS: Sorry for not correctly formatting the wiki entries here, I have yet to check the syntax required... ;) Feel free to edit, if it's an eyesore for you.
--[[User:Kruge Kubrick|Kruge Kubrick]] 10:24, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

:::You do have access to the direct url. Enable admin options, go to About Land's media tab, then it's a simple copy & paste.
:::[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 11:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

User talk:Jumpman Lane

2008-05-14T19:10:28Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* Landau to the rescue! */

toley vandalized meh page!

== Landau to the rescue! ==

They can't stop alla us Jumpmans!

==Stay of my page furry== Who are YOU to determine wtf is nonsense of not! How are pic of Jumpman lane considered nonsense. I know who this is too.

User talk:Jumpman Lane

2008-05-14T19:10:06Z

Jumpman Gerje: /* Landau to the rescue! */

toley vandalized meh page!

== Landau to the rescue! ==

They can't stop alla us Jumpmans!

==Stay of my page furry. Who are YOU to determine wtf is nonsense of not! How are pic of Jumpman lane considered nonsense. I know who this is too.

User:Jumpman Lane

2008-05-14T19:08:53Z

Jumpman Gerje: Undo revision 67235 by JetZep Zabelin (Talk)

'''Jumpman Lane''' (born May 5, 2007 in Second Life), is the founder and chief executive officer of Slut Magazine.

[[Image:Redone.jpg|500px]]

==Second Life's L'enfant Terrible==
[[Image:Bike 001.JPG‎|400px ]]

Jumpman NEVER for a second hesitates to put his foot deep in some tards crap! He doesn't look for trouble he IS trouble! From the second he logs on somebody asks wtf did you do? Why did ya do it! Blah blah blah!

===Jumpman Lane's Crimes===
Jumpman Lane’s Crimes

They just got me nailed to the wall! here is a list of meh crimes:

*G-team yappin!

:[11:45] Zara Linden: you were given a 14 day suspension for the wiki vandalism: abuse of support staff. i am sorry you didn't get the letter, but we will be happy to get that to you via a ticket.
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: er thanx
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: but can i ar him for vandalizin mine
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: im permabanned there and cant evcen fix mine
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: hehehehe
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: nvm
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: a joke
:[11:46] Jumpman Drutman: thanx zara
:[11:46] Zara Linden: np jumpman

*age veri requi!:

Dear Jumpman Lane,
It has come to our attention that you may be residing on the wrong
Second
Life grid. The adult grid is for people 18 years old and up. The teen
grid
is for people between 13 and 17 years of age.
We have put your account on hold pending confirmation of your age.

[[Image:Banned fc.jpg|500px]]

*griefing!:

:1.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on April 11, 2008 in the region of Innocence.
Violation: Disturbing the Peace: Repetitive Content, Spamming
Repeatedly and persistently transmitting undesired content,
whether by IM, chat, notecard, object or texture drop, or
email to another Resident.
The rules of conduct are interpreted with the broadest meaning
possible.
Discipline:
As a result of this violation, your Second Life account is
being temporarily suspended for a period of 7 days. It will
return to active status on Friday, Apr 18, 2008.

:2.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on March 26, 2008 in the region of Bangkok City.
Violation: Disturbing the Peace: Repetitive Content, Spamming
Repeatedly and persistently transmitting undesired content,
whether by IM, chat, notecard, object or texture drop, or
email to another Resident.
The rules of conduct are interpreted with the broadest meaning
possible.
Discipline:
No additional action is being taken at this time.
(note a 1 day ban for scripted objects is in meh jumpan avi that i cant acces now comin later!)
*TROLLIN forum whiny-baby tards!
:1.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question
occurred
on October 3, 2007 in the region of .
Violation: Forum Suspension: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We value an open environment in which residents feel free to
express themselves, even when their views may not be
popular.
From time to time we find we need to take disciplinary
action on the Second Life Forums, when someone is
determined after careful review to have violated either the
Second Life Community Standards of the Terms of Service.
Violation: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We believe in an honest and open free exchange of ideas,
and in always maintaining a respect for the opinions and
positions of other people. However, Flaming (posting a
message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack
a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same
topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an
intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of
inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are not allowed
in the Second Life Forums.
You have been suspended from Second Life and the SL Forums
for fourteen (14) days and will not be able to access the
forums or Second Life.

:2.Dear Jumpman Lane,
Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse
Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and
logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second
Life
Community Standards or Terms of Service.
Violation: Forum Suspension: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We value an open environment in which residents feel free to
express themselves, even when their views may not be
popular.
From time to time we find we need to take disciplinary
action on the Second Life Forums, when someone is
determined after careful review to have violated either the
Second Life Community Standards of the Terms of Service.
Violation: Spamming, Trolling, Flaming
We believe in an honest and open free exchange of ideas,
and in always maintaining a respect for the opinions and
positions of other people. However, Flaming (posting a
message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack
a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same
topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an
intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of
inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are not allowed
in the Second Life Forums.
You have been suspended from Second Life and the SL Forums
for fourteen (14) days and will not be able to access the
forums or Second Life.

===Jumpy's Enemies===
''"I'll bury these cockaroches!!!! -J. lane''
:These turdballs offended Jumpy in one manner or another and got a foot in their crack! need to ask where their sol ja ja ja ja jas at!
#Torley Linden (watermelon)
#DjQuad Radio (mentally crippled!)
#Starfighter Tammas (sebastion Contepomi's furry alt)
#sebastion Contepomi (Starfighter's gorean slave-boy alt)
#Myself Ah (crack-licker for prims)
#Phooka Oh (sell-out)
#Penn Euler (cry-baby)
#Chris Norse (sl forums crybaby and whimp!)
#The Forum Cartel (granny women all!)
#Jorel Rau (Bot!)
#Poland (a pack of furry tards!)

===The Great Watermelon War===
It all started with this lil article in Slut magazine...

[[Image:Excerpt2B1.jpg|750px]]

[[Image:Excert2B2.jpg|750px]]

Then that watermelon tard or one of his pals had Jump banned from the Library of prims and all of the Watermelon's watermelon patches.
AND To'ley vandalized THIS PAGE by inserting the crap pic below!

[[Image:Watermelon slice.jpg|250px]]

Well Jump retaliated by adding HOT pix of Jumpman Lane to To'ley's page and the foloowing recollection by the Great wata Wata himself:
:'''Well I met Jumpman Lane in a watermelon patch. We were smashing watermelons and pondering the meaning of life and regaling each other with all the hookers we have well...er you know... when we realized that TOGETHER we could take over the world...er which world we weren't sure of...so we decided Second Life would do. Me on the inside, Jump on the outside, he in a Spiderman suit, I disguised as a watermelon would bring JUSTICE to a cold world...er virtual world. So the legend has begun! We'll sort out the meaning of all this later!'''

Jump got a 14 day ban for this.
:'''Hi there,Linden Lab has reviewed, at your request, a discipline action recently taken against your account. Our investigation shows that the discipline was correctly applied. Your account has been suspended for 14 days for vandalizing Torley Linden's wiki page.If any further information is required, Linden Lab will contact you regarding this incident. Otherwise, please consider the matter resolved as no further communications will be sent. What to expect: Linden Lab examines each abuse incident independently. Linden Lab will not disclose the resolution of abuse/community standards violations with Second Life residents, except when necessary to introduce a new/amended policy. Linden Lab will not disclose incident details including (but not limited to): identity of the reporter, details of chat logs, resolution of incidents, suspensions/banning of Second Life residents. Best regards, Linden Lab and the Second Life Community team.'''

Those LL drones are nothing if not polite....

''"I suppose the boys in the Lab won this one:P!" _Jumpman Lane''

==Alts==
[[Image:Bane 003jpg.JPG|500px]]
===Bane Martinek===
(Pictured above)
:Technically Jumpman Lane is the alt of Bane Martinek. Yet, Bane was "city chic" and Jump was too much of a noob to fix him so he created Jumpman and named him for a tennis shoe in his closet. In fact, every nameable character Jump has ever played was named Bane. Sadly, Bane is to be shortly discontinued by Linden labs cause quote: ''"Screw them LL tards! I aint payin another 5USD to age verify nobody!" -Jump. Lane''

===To be Discontinued===
:all these were asked to age verify when Jumpwas out griefin Penn Euler with BreatheCutta Flow

#Bane Martinek (actually primary)
#Spook Tomorrow (Public Townscape Prim Thief)
#BreatheCutta Flow (Pt prim thief named after Jump's rl nephew)
#Keyshop Coker (christ what a name)
#nomads Dagger (suspected! origionally perhaps the sniffy sniffy man from pakistan used to grief in Abusers and Victems)
#Jumpman Spiegel (first of a zillion Jumpman alts)

===These are the Current and the New===
:...er someof them hehehehe! Jumpman Lane is only using alts named Jumpman inorder to confuse his enemies into thinking that ALL the Jumpmans on the grid are in fact alts of Jumpman Lane. Many, many, many more exist than these.

#Jumpman Drutman
#Jumpman Landau
#Jumpman Zipper
#Jumpman Landesbaum

==Quote==
*My name is Lane...I bring out hoes, all spit-shined and sparklin', and glitterin fullbright into the world! I'm standing in the middle of the MFSL with a mini gatlin, like Tommy Vercetti... on the run in San Fiero, like C.J. ...waitin on the endless summer, like Jimmy Hopkins.

*All eyes on me! L-A-N-E! And I'm Jumpy! And you can't be me! And I know that ain't fair!

*Cause i stay jay walkin! two threees one meh feet! i'm ready to set the whole MFSL on ablaze. You fire-proof or swimmin in gasoline

==Jump's Illegitamate Second Life Daughter==
===annie Juran===
[[Image:Hot.jpg|250px]] '''HotNsExy Whitfield'''
*mother:HotNsExy Whitfield (born 5-5-07 Jump's rezz day!) of Jump's
:a real live psycho who when she wasnt acting crazy, constantly hit Jump up for L$. One day she SWORE she was prego and wore a fat bellied avi for like all of two days then she intored Jump to annie who was a kid avi. Jump immediately tried to shoot the lil tard. Weeks later the kiddie porn Scare hit and annie was like 21 the next day!
*Now annie runs around half dressed lookin for excitement and keeps buggin Jump about appearin nude in Slut Magazine. Crap. As if Jump were a perve!

==Slut Magazine==

[[Image:Slutmagcover.jpg|500px]]

===Slut Magazine!===

Where dreams come true! Fullbright in Windlight! We spit shine and sparkle up only the prettiest avis for your titilation and edification! Keep ya eyes wide-peeled...and ENJOY!

===Staff===
''Editorial''
*Founder, Jumpman Lane
*Publisher, Luscioulumpchunks McMillian
*Editrix-in-Chief, Kimber Martinek
*Layout Editrix, Candace Flossburg (Ms. Can. Flo.)
*Circulation Editrix, Brooklyen Balut
*Editrix-at-Large, Roxana Fouquet

''Reportors and Photographers''
*Sillie Schmooz
*Kryztine Ballinger
*Dokan Dryssen
*Krystel Sands
*Jessy Lynch
*Sole Jie
*Vila Demonge

''Former Staff''
*Zelda Homewood (Crazy Zel), former editrix
*Lady Dawson, former publisher
*nomads Dagger, former reporter
*Bane martinek, former photographer
*Anfrey Tripsa, former reporter

===Slut's Hideaway===

[[Image:Crib 013jpeg.JPG|500px]]

*1 Slut Lane! Jumpy's crib in the cut! Where the magic happens! Slut Mag HQ! Where we spit shine and sparkle up hoes! Is you is or is you ain't invited! Only YOU know! AND I BUILT THAT! I am Lane...

==External linx==

* '''Slut Magazine''': [http://www.slutmaglane.com/

* '''Slut Magazine Blog''': [http://www.slutmagazine.blogspot.com/

* '''Slut Magazine Superstars''': [http://www.slutmaglane.ning.com/
* '''Second Life Search resident Jumpman Lane''':[http://world.secondlife.com/resident/ef410911-925e-4fc3-ab81-d1925fa4f70a