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Adult Content User Group

2011-06-27T17:55:40Z

Zada Bury:

{{User Group Page
|purpose= Discuss Issues Concerning Zindra and Adult Content.
|date-time= Mondays at 11am SLT
|location= [http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bronlen/107/224/36 Bronlen]
|team=
|archive=
* [[Adult_Content_User Group/06/20/2011]]
* [[Adult Content User Group/06/13/2011]]

|agenda= Feel free to add agenda items that you would like to discuss. Each meeting I will start from the top and work my way down the list. If you propose an item and are not there in person to discuss, the item will be skipped. I would like to see agenda items in a box, like below, with only the very basic information. Please do not edit agenda items that are not yours.

Meeting Date: June 27th
<table class="lltable" border="1">
<tr>
<th>Topic</th>
<th>Proposed By</th>
<th>Links</th>
<th>Jira Number</th>
<th>Old or New Business</th>
<th>Comments</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Welcome</td>
<td>Welcoming Committee</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>n/a</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Removal of the 4 zexpo sims after zexpo 2011</td>
<td>DT Zanzibar</td>
<td>Throwing out the baby with the bathwater</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>The Zindra Expo group has had presence & some positive impact thru out SL & beyond into RL
To lose that developed momentum would in my opinion be unbelievably wasteful.

As a member of these 2 main groups, I am perturbed by the conflict that exists ... what a waste of energy & resources

I am also concerned about such small numbers of people meeting & voting on critical issues at hours that preclude many (especially myself)
& then making decisions that can impact on the whole of the Adult continent & indeed SL</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Removal of the 4 zexpo sims after zexpo 2011</td>
<td>Zindra Alliance</td>
<td></td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>Our proposal to the Adult User group meeting is to keep the 4 zexpo sims operational only till after the zexpo 2011 event has finished, and then Linden Lab will take the sims back and offer them on the general market in line with the rest of the Zindra sims.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>@Removal of the 4 ZExpo-Sims after ZExpo2011</td>
<td>Zada Bury </td>
<td>https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Zada_Bury The "Zindra Alliance" was "decide" in a meeting of 15 people ... from 260 people in only that group ... about the 4 event Sims (aka. Zexpo-Island). 8 from these vote against to keep the 4 ZExpo-Sims (and want keep ONLY the Zindra-Sim), 7 want to keep all 5 Sims.</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>In a meeting of the "Zindra Alliance" was "decide" to give these Sims away. These not shows the opinion from all and only from 1 group.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Change the zexpo group back to a group for that event only</td>
<td>Zindra Alliance</td>
<td></td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>ZA's position is that the zexpo group will be demoted to an event group for the zexpo event only in line with the original intention of the group. It is up to that group to sort out how the group is managed, but Linden Lab will leave the group. This group is also not involved in any land management of the Zindra sim, vortex sim or any other land it might currently have assigned to it by Linden Lab. Other events will have to form their own event groups.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>@Change the ZExpo-group</td>
<td>Zada Bury </td>
<td>https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Zada_Bury</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>The "Zindra Expo"-group was created for an event. This event is runned by Ginette. The ownership for the group goes to Ginette. How she use the group, as event group or alos as community-group is then on her. Sidenote: The group is nothing other in the moment, too.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Form new group for land management of the Zindra sim</td>
<td>Zindra Alliance</td>
<td></td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>For management of the Zindra sim, our proposalis that a new group is formed with a permanent management team of 5 is formed by individuals elected by the community. This team shall seek to reflect the diversity of the community.
This team will manage land, and land issues in addition to temporarily grant group membership to individuals who needs building rights on the Zindra sim (i.e. such as in a stage area for an event.) This group does not have any permanent members but the management team. If a stage/event area is developed for the Zindra sim, it falls natural that this group maintains an event calendar for the Zindra sim.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Abandon plans to rename the Zindra sim</td>
<td>Zindra Alliance</td>
<td></td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>ZA propose that all plans to rename the Zindra sim is abandoned, as the general consensus is to keep the name Zindra as people then can easier associate the Zindra (community hub) sim they find in map search with the Zindra content. SecondLife does currently not support teleportation to continents, so therefor the sim <--> continent association is important.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Nominees for candidates to the management team for the Zindra sim land management group</td>
<td>Zindra Alliance</td>
<td></td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>Our nominees for the land management group team:
> Urci (urcilnia.pyrithea)
> Zada Bury
> Evelynn Kidd
> Hypatia Meili
> Adorabella Felisimo
> Janicka Engineer</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Candidate for landmanagement</td>
<td>Zada Bury </td>
<td>https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Zada_Bury</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>In the moment "only" the "Zindra Alliance" (ZA) have nominate people, the "Zindra Expo" (ZE) as other kind of community not. Even I am nominated by the ZA, I do also an application as individual to respect all communities interests.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>ZEXPO 2011 Weekly Update</td>
<td>Gina</td>
<td>http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zexpo-2011</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>old</td>
<td>n/a</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>WIKI for New Residents
(off Topic)</td>
<td>Zada Bury</td>
<td>https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group
NOTE TO NEW USERS: If you have a single-word username, then you cannot currently log in to the SL wiki to edit articles. However, you can view all articles.
We are working on this issue, and hope to resolve it soon (11/17/10).</td>
<td>? (maybe)</td>
<td>new + known</td>
<td>Amanda (6/13 at 10:30am PT): Team has upped this in their priority list. Met with folks on this today. Hoping that we can have this complete by end of June or early July. Should have final ETA by next week's meeting.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Inaccurate information on Age Verification video </td>
<td>Innula Zenovka</td>
<td>http://vodpod.com/watch/6728203-how-to-adult-verify-your-account?u=secondlifeshowcase&c=secondlife</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>old</td>
<td>Amanda (6/8 at 3pm): Brett will take down the video today. Because there are so many use cases (US, UK, int'l) and it mentions an area that may not have been completed, we're taking it down for now. Instead, we will all rely on the accuracy of the knowledgebase articles. There is one for [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Accessing-Adult-land-and-content/ta-p/805975 SL] and one for [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Accessing-adult-and-moderate-content-in-the-Marketplace/ta-p/816839 Marketplace]. Send me feedback to ensure that those are correct. Thanks for flagging this one!</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Vortex Tweaks</td>
<td>BBQ - Gina - Ratatosk</td>
<td>https://sites.google.com/site/zindrahelpvortex/home/</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>old</td>
<td>n/a</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Privacy Issue</td>
<td>Vick Forcella</td>
<td>no link</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>Many residents will not create accounts on non-LL hosted websites and will not participate because of that</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Transcripts</td>
<td>Vick Forcella</td>
<td>no links</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>Old and new</td>
<td>I can not find the transcripts of the previous meetings</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Unite</td>
<td>Vick Forcella</td>
<td>no links</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>old and new</td>
<td>It's time we move on and unite the residents to participate in these meetings</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Response to: 'Better ACUG Meetings' proposal</td>
<td>Gina</td>
<td>
http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/better-acug-meetings-part-2
</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>waiting for response</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Zindra Expo Group: our structure</td>
<td>Gina</td>
<td>
http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-expo-group-overview-plan
</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>our structure</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Adult Content KB/Wiki Articles being updated</td>
<td>Innula Zenovka</td>
<td> </td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>I see a lot of tidying up of these has taken place over the weekend. Would this be an opportunity to update and clarify some of the FAQ? At the moment, [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Maturity-ratings/ta-p/700119 the KB article] says "''The FAQs offers examples of the types of regions that are and are not considered Adult, based for example on distinctions between "public" and "private" content, as well as distinctions between content that is "expressly sexually themed" and content that is not''" and the FAQs to which it links begin with the warnings "'''This article is obsolete, but kept as a historical record. Do not rely on this information in any way'''" and "'''Warning: This article was compiled by Residents and hasn't been reviewed or verified by Linden Lab employees'''," which is less than reassuring</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Form of the ACUG-Meeting / The ACUG OH</td>
<td>Zada Bury</td>
<td>n/a "Chair"/Main-leading: LL possible "Secretary" by Users for the event-leading, transscripts, keep the minutes and "sort"/ change the row of the themes.</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>new</td>
<td>Answering the question from LL, how these meeting should running in the Future. It is listed as "OfficeHour", so it would be on LL ... ... but maybe the community can bring a "secretary". </td>
</tr>

</table>

}}

User:Zada Bury

2011-06-27T13:43:57Z

Zada Bury: /* Update about the Zindra Alliance-Meeting at 26. June 2011 */

Find me in World.

Here is some work in and with ACUG (Adult Content User Group), in resulting of the Life and work on Zindra, SL's adult-rated mainland.
Details about, you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group (ACUG on the SL-Wiki)] .

A Part of the Zindra-related 'Issues' is an event-Island for expositions and other kind of (user-created and runned) events.

'''The event-island-Sims are here:'''

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Distrel/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Distrel/128/128/25 (Distrel, left top)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Tramboyn/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Tramboyn/128/128/25 (Tramboyn, left bottom)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Girenzi/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Girenzi/128/128/25 (Girenzi, right top)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jaraded/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jaraded/128/128/25 (Jaraded, left top)]

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== Update about the Zindra Alliance-Meeting at 26. June 2011 ==

'''Point 1:''' Keeping the Sims ... 1x Zindra-Sim, 4x aka ZExpo-Island-Sims

In the meeting was 15 people ... of 260 people from the "Zindra Alliance". 8 from these vote against to keep the 4 ZExpo-Sims (and want keep ONLY the Zindra-Sim), 7 want to keep all 5 Sims.

''I complete not agree with this "decision", what some call "democratic" ... and I'm not alone, as the group-notices in the night have shown, too.'' If some want like to disturb and destroy ... their problem, but me as PART of a community will not accept it and it seems ... even in that meeting nearly the half was have the same meaning.

'''Point 2:''' Nominates for the Landmanagement of the Sim/s 
6 people was raise up:
* Urci (urcilnia.pyrithea)
* Zada Bury
* Evelynn Kidd
* Hypatia Meili
* Adorabella Felisimo
* Janicka Engineer

These are nominates from the "Zindra Alliance" (ZA). I am also in this group, same as in the "Zindra Expo" (ZE). The ZA is maybe the largest visible group (260 members), the ZE have around 200 members (a lot are surely in both group). 
It would be fair to listen maybe on other groups nominates or independed ones. 
The list show some known and calmed people. We have to ask us, if we standing behind and with the project(s) on Zindra. 
I hope, in the most eyes, I look as fair to all.

'''Point 3a:''' Landmanagement 
The Landmanagement of the Sim/s will be done with a separated group (my suggestion "Zindra Community Landmgmt./Landmanagement"). 
This group can be used as event group.

'''Point 3b:''' "Zindra Expo"-group 
The ownership for this (in the past created as Event-group) group goes to Ginette.

== Suggestions and Changes about the ACUG and the Community-managed Sims, 26. June 2011 ==

The requests from LL changes a bit the plans and suggestions.

Sadly some people love to keep point on useless wishes and are not able to start think in an other direction. But for that we are "a community", so "some" can make suggestions and help others to think.

'''First: ''Let us be clear about the further community-work, special "the 5 Sims" (1x Zindra-Sim, 4x ZExpo-Islsand Sims).'''''

LL want, we become responsible for the Sim-management.
* It saves work on their side.
* It makes some things more easy for us ("building on, building off", "please return stuff", …).

We can win from that … 
… but we have to make clear "We manage, but we not pay tier". 
We do there something for SL, something for (adult) mainland, something what brings there Life in, something what makes SL stronger.

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'''I think we all want and agree with the future existence of these community-projects, but let me show other options:'''

'''''Zindra-Sim:'''''

This marketing-disaster in the middle of Zindra (continent) - what a Sim-Name.
No, there will not come up the discussion again to "make it mature-rated and make to an Verification-Hub"!

But: ''Do we want the Sim, do we need the Sim, can we do it?''

'''Option 1:'''
* We tell LL, the should renamed it. (Example "Zindra Mall")
* LL can take it back …
* … and use, like their original plan was (Mall like the Mosh-Building or what else).
==> We would loose the Sim … but we would have nothing to do with. It safes us work.

'''Option 2:'''
* We let rename the Sim, to avoid the marketing-problems. (Example "Zindra Adult Info-HUB")
* We find 5 people to run the Sim.
* We use the existing buildings … and adding own (floating area, underwater area, maybe something at the sides at the lake).
* We use the Sim for a center of information about Zindra, about Adult-Life in SL, adult learning, community-work and more.
==> We can show these, which want "lock adult away" and don'T agree with us, that we can be also nice and create not only naughty stuff.
==> It would make a new step and a footage of a working together.

'''''ZExpo-Islands:'''''

4 Sims at the edge of Zindra.

Also here the questions: ''Do we want the Sims, do we need the Sims, can we do it?''

'''Option 1:'''
* We tell LL, they can have them back and put on sale.
==> Never again would be events like the "ZExpo", the "Art Maze", maybe also "Zindra unzipped" or the (canceled) "Bed Fair" (from Lias) possible.
==> Nobody will give 4 or even only 3 or 2 complete Sims to use for a month.
==> It would be a lost, but we would have much less work and can focus again on "the green street glow".

'''Option 2:'''
* We find 5 to run the Sims.
* We fill the Sims with (event) Life …
* … following some "rules" or "recommended usages", but not acting "stolid" on needings.
==> We can continue our community-work and advertise Zindra, SL and adult mainland to make a benefit for us.

I think, we all are clear about "'''we want continue it'''".

== Solutions: ==

'''Solution Land-Management:'''

* One Group have the ownership of the Sims.
* Different roles in the group can be used for Event-planing and Event-running.

Counter want, the group become cleared from people (except owners) after each event. That is bad, if it's a group of "event addicted people". 
There was other "issues", like security-problems ("People can build"), but that can be switched off in roles. 
He was make one valuable point for the "cleaning": Maybe some want to planing some "secrets". 

My suggestion:
* We create a ''complete new group for the Land-management''. ("Zindra Community Land-Mgm")
* The group ''CAN be used also for event planing'', but if some people come up with an own group, they can do planing there.
* For building and e.g. "DJ's (stream-change)" the event-people become invited into the group - an "Event Leader" can put them into the different roles.
* If the event-leader wish, "building for all" can be switched on (so no invite for building would be needed).
* ''The group become cleaned after each event.''

The Land-managers are more "Janitors", keeping the land clean, manage the dates and so on … 
… the events ''the community have to bring and make''!

'''Solution Event-Management:'''

* As long no dates collides, is "everything" possible.
* A continuous stay on the Sims is not allowed.

Counter was set some "rules":
* Booking only 6 months before.
* No use of the same person each time.
* Longest event-time 6 weeks.

''I don't agree complete with these ideas, even I understand them.''

> ''Fixed booking only 6 months before is ok, pre-booking up to a year possible''. The month before the next events become "fixed booked", they become narrowed in the meetings. Pre-booking events are part of discussion.
> ''"traditional events" become priority''. Example: Gin start after the finish of the "ZExpo 2011" the planing for the "ZExpo 2012". If she set to "august 2012" an event (in the pre-booking phase) … and someone bring up a "mysterious disturbing we-sit-on-the-grass-and-do-nothing event", the tradition get priority.
> If the same person doing one event after the other … and these ''events are unique (!)'' … ''why shouldn't make the same person events again and again''? If some people from community bring up other events, they are welcome … but only because "oh, it's that one again" the island will not stay empty.
> "Longest event-time 6 weeks" … maybe that will fork for some events … maybe if we have some pre-fabricated buildings for the Island in the inventory, that will work … for some events, it will NOT work. ''6 weeks = 2/3 weeks "move in", 3/2 weeks "event", 1 week "clean up".'' For an event like the "Art Maze" impossible. ''8 weeks / 2 months should be possible, if nobody before uses the island a use before would be possible'' (it it's in use, maybe we can find a solution of use of only 1 of the Sims … or the people have to doing prefabs in the Sandbox … the measures of the Sim don't change and the final fitting should be possible in 4 weeks "move in").

'''Solution "ZExpo-Group":'''

About this group was each time discussions.
We let it existing, as it is.

Option 1:
* Ownership goes to the 5 Land-managers, too.
* It be used as an continuous event group.

Option 2:
* Ownership goes to Ginette as Event-Leader of the "ZExpo".
* The group can also be an "opposite" to the "Zindra Alliance"-group.

Option 3:
* Group become renamed to "Zindra Adult Events" (or something similar).

'''Solution ACUG:'''

In the moment exists only the "Zindra Alliance", other groups are … simple said "non existing". 
But we loose power and be less strong, we could be: Adult people, which are not on Zindra will think "Why we should join a 'Zindra'-group … we aren't there."

* For the ACUG-Meetings … which are an "LL office hour" should be opened a new group, e.g. "ACUG - Adult Content Users".
* This group is a center of communication …
* … and an "umbrella" for all.
* The other Group-LEaders should be at least as the leader in.
* With roles can be controlled the way, how much the people can communicate … and spammer become taken the chat-option.
* Advertising for event only in a LIMITED mass.

-- FIN --

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== '''[[Actual Topics on Zindra and the ACUG:]]''' (outdated, 20.06.2011) ==

'''The 'ZEXPO'-group'''

This group was created for the last "ZEXPO" (Zindra Expo...sition).
Some still poke on, it is outdated and best should become deleted or similar. Also that some people have more rights in the group bring for some no pleasure up.

It have become a group to exchange informations and so on, also to organize events, and, and, and.

My suggestion is, to make it an "only event related"-group ... where an "event" is a thing with a wide effect, a community thing ... and not the grand-opening of the next biker-bar.

The Owner-ship goes to a group of 3 or 4 people, with them the most agree ... and which are not the "typical main-actors". Also the responsible LL-staff(s) should be visible.

Per default all are in the "Everyone" role - the role have nearly NO RIGHTS (only get informations). For events exists a set of typical roles, the event-leaders become set to.

I was talk before with two of our "main actors", Counter and Ginette, and both was have something to say about that. I still stay with my suggestions.

Special for my next suggestion, Counter would prefer to remove all people from the event group, while no event is on - main point is "Security". I don't agree with that - on events will be mostly the same people. This way stay a kind of sub-community of event-addicted people.
Also if the situation have become more stable, there is the hope, events running day after day - one event finished, the next starts up ... makes no time to left.

'''Running the 'Event Island' (the 4 Sims)'''

In the meeting, Amanda was make clear, she will not have the time to run such an island, like Blondin was maybe have it.

An idea was, to let the users to all, but "estate-manager rights" would be not working. About the location of the Sims, it can be easy missed, they are part of the main-land ... and mainland is 1 estate.

If it would be possible, to have a separated estate, but liked to the Zindra-Continent, that would be surely fantastic, but I think, it's not possible and not in the allowed part of rules from LL.
It would make "parceling" possible and other things, but in the past also the other ways have work.

My suggestion is, the 4 island sims become owned by the "ZEXPO"-group.

The "Owners" of the ZEXPO-Group are responsible for:
* keep the place clean
* special: clean up after events
* set permissions to group-members for events …
* … take the permissions.
* manage event-appointments (keep the calendar)
* negotiate between people if their dates collides

Counter was seeing security issues, but Sims/parcels can be set to "Group Only can build" ... and in the Group-roles can be set, a Group can build on the land ... or not.

'''Creating a new Group (ACUG) for all'''

A kind of "Umbrella group" for ALL residents.

The "Zindra Alliance" is a private group. Everyone can join ... but the owner can toss them out and "rules".

The ACUG should be similar to, for example, the "Second Life Beta" ( [ secondlife:///app/group/19657888-576f-83e9-2580-7c3da7c0e4ca/about secondlife:///app/group/19657888-576f-83e9-2580-7c3da7c0e4ca/about Second Life Beta-Group] ).

The Group is there to access the Test-Sandboxes, but is also a exchange-group for some tech-stuff.

Spammer become taken their chat-rights, Group-notices only for rare people on request.

''Well ... open for discussion.''

User:Zada Bury

2011-06-27T13:42:08Z

Zada Bury: Update after the Zindra Alliance-Meeting at the 26.06.2011

Find me in World.

Here is some work in and with ACUG (Adult Content User Group), in resulting of the Life and work on Zindra, SL's adult-rated mainland.
Details about, you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group (ACUG on the SL-Wiki)] .

A Part of the Zindra-related 'Issues' is an event-Island for expositions and other kind of (user-created and runned) events.

'''The event-island-Sims are here:'''

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Distrel/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Distrel/128/128/25 (Distrel, left top)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Tramboyn/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Tramboyn/128/128/25 (Tramboyn, left bottom)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Girenzi/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Girenzi/128/128/25 (Girenzi, right top)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jaraded/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jaraded/128/128/25 (Jaraded, left top)]

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== Update about the Zindra Alliance-Meeting at 26. June 2011 ==

'''Point 1:''' Keeping the Sims ... 1x Zindra-Sim, 4x aka ZExpo-Island-Sims 
In the meeting was 15 people ... of 260 people from the "Zindra Alliance". 8 from these vote against to keep the 4 ZExpo-Sims (and want keep ONLY the Zindra-Sim), 7 want to keep all 5 Sims. 
''I complete not agree with this "decision", what some call "democratic" ... and I'm not alone, as the group-notices in the night have shown, too.'' If some want like to disturb and destroy ... their problem, but me as PART of a community will not accept it and it seems ... even in that meeting nearly the half was have the same meaning.

'''Point 2:''' Nominates for the Landmanagement of the Sim/s 
6 people was raise up:
* Urci (urcilnia.pyrithea)
* Zada Bury
* Evelynn Kidd
* Hypatia Meili
* Adorabella Felisimo
* Janicka Engineer

These are nominates from the "Zindra Alliance" (ZA). I am also in this group, same as in the "Zindra Expo" (ZE). The ZA is maybe the largest visible group (260 members), the ZE have around 200 members (a lot are surely in both group). 
It would be fair to listen maybe on other groups nominates or independed ones. 
The list show some known and calmed people. We have to ask us, if we standing behind and with the project(s) on Zindra. 
I hope, in the most eyes, I look as fair to all.

'''Point 3a:''' Landmanagement 
The Landmanagement of the Sim/s will be done with a separated group (my suggestion "Zindra Community Landmgmt./Landmanagement"). 
This group can be used as event group.

'''Point 3b:''' "Zindra Expo"-group 
The ownership for this (in the past created as Event-group) group goes to Ginette.

== Suggestions and Changes about the ACUG and the Community-managed Sims, 26. June 2011 ==

The requests from LL changes a bit the plans and suggestions.

Sadly some people love to keep point on useless wishes and are not able to start think in an other direction. But for that we are "a community", so "some" can make suggestions and help others to think.

'''First: ''Let us be clear about the further community-work, special "the 5 Sims" (1x Zindra-Sim, 4x ZExpo-Islsand Sims).'''''

LL want, we become responsible for the Sim-management.
* It saves work on their side.
* It makes some things more easy for us ("building on, building off", "please return stuff", …).

We can win from that … 
… but we have to make clear "We manage, but we not pay tier". 
We do there something for SL, something for (adult) mainland, something what brings there Life in, something what makes SL stronger.

----

'''I think we all want and agree with the future existence of these community-projects, but let me show other options:'''

'''''Zindra-Sim:'''''

This marketing-disaster in the middle of Zindra (continent) - what a Sim-Name.
No, there will not come up the discussion again to "make it mature-rated and make to an Verification-Hub"!

But: ''Do we want the Sim, do we need the Sim, can we do it?''

'''Option 1:'''
* We tell LL, the should renamed it. (Example "Zindra Mall")
* LL can take it back …
* … and use, like their original plan was (Mall like the Mosh-Building or what else).
==> We would loose the Sim … but we would have nothing to do with. It safes us work.

'''Option 2:'''
* We let rename the Sim, to avoid the marketing-problems. (Example "Zindra Adult Info-HUB")
* We find 5 people to run the Sim.
* We use the existing buildings … and adding own (floating area, underwater area, maybe something at the sides at the lake).
* We use the Sim for a center of information about Zindra, about Adult-Life in SL, adult learning, community-work and more.
==> We can show these, which want "lock adult away" and don'T agree with us, that we can be also nice and create not only naughty stuff.
==> It would make a new step and a footage of a working together.

'''''ZExpo-Islands:'''''

4 Sims at the edge of Zindra.

Also here the questions: ''Do we want the Sims, do we need the Sims, can we do it?''

'''Option 1:'''
* We tell LL, they can have them back and put on sale.
==> Never again would be events like the "ZExpo", the "Art Maze", maybe also "Zindra unzipped" or the (canceled) "Bed Fair" (from Lias) possible.
==> Nobody will give 4 or even only 3 or 2 complete Sims to use for a month.
==> It would be a lost, but we would have much less work and can focus again on "the green street glow".

'''Option 2:'''
* We find 5 to run the Sims.
* We fill the Sims with (event) Life …
* … following some "rules" or "recommended usages", but not acting "stolid" on needings.
==> We can continue our community-work and advertise Zindra, SL and adult mainland to make a benefit for us.

I think, we all are clear about "'''we want continue it'''".

== Solutions: ==

'''Solution Land-Management:'''

* One Group have the ownership of the Sims.
* Different roles in the group can be used for Event-planing and Event-running.

Counter want, the group become cleared from people (except owners) after each event. That is bad, if it's a group of "event addicted people". 
There was other "issues", like security-problems ("People can build"), but that can be switched off in roles. 
He was make one valuable point for the "cleaning": Maybe some want to planing some "secrets". 

My suggestion:
* We create a ''complete new group for the Land-management''. ("Zindra Community Land-Mgm")
* The group ''CAN be used also for event planing'', but if some people come up with an own group, they can do planing there.
* For building and e.g. "DJ's (stream-change)" the event-people become invited into the group - an "Event Leader" can put them into the different roles.
* If the event-leader wish, "building for all" can be switched on (so no invite for building would be needed).
* ''The group become cleaned after each event.''

The Land-managers are more "Janitors", keeping the land clean, manage the dates and so on … 
… the events ''the community have to bring and make''!

'''Solution Event-Management:'''

* As long no dates collides, is "everything" possible.
* A continuous stay on the Sims is not allowed.

Counter was set some "rules":
* Booking only 6 months before.
* No use of the same person each time.
* Longest event-time 6 weeks.

''I don't agree complete with these ideas, even I understand them.''

> ''Fixed booking only 6 months before is ok, pre-booking up to a year possible''. The month before the next events become "fixed booked", they become narrowed in the meetings. Pre-booking events are part of discussion.
> ''"traditional events" become priority''. Example: Gin start after the finish of the "ZExpo 2011" the planing for the "ZExpo 2012". If she set to "august 2012" an event (in the pre-booking phase) … and someone bring up a "mysterious disturbing we-sit-on-the-grass-and-do-nothing event", the tradition get priority.
> If the same person doing one event after the other … and these ''events are unique (!)'' … ''why shouldn't make the same person events again and again''? If some people from community bring up other events, they are welcome … but only because "oh, it's that one again" the island will not stay empty.
> "Longest event-time 6 weeks" … maybe that will fork for some events … maybe if we have some pre-fabricated buildings for the Island in the inventory, that will work … for some events, it will NOT work. ''6 weeks = 2/3 weeks "move in", 3/2 weeks "event", 1 week "clean up".'' For an event like the "Art Maze" impossible. ''8 weeks / 2 months should be possible, if nobody before uses the island a use before would be possible'' (it it's in use, maybe we can find a solution of use of only 1 of the Sims … or the people have to doing prefabs in the Sandbox … the measures of the Sim don't change and the final fitting should be possible in 4 weeks "move in").

'''Solution "ZExpo-Group":'''

About this group was each time discussions.
We let it existing, as it is.

Option 1:
* Ownership goes to the 5 Land-managers, too.
* It be used as an continuous event group.

Option 2:
* Ownership goes to Ginette as Event-Leader of the "ZExpo".
* The group can also be an "opposite" to the "Zindra Alliance"-group.

Option 3:
* Group become renamed to "Zindra Adult Events" (or something similar).

'''Solution ACUG:'''

In the moment exists only the "Zindra Alliance", other groups are … simple said "non existing". 
But we loose power and be less strong, we could be: Adult people, which are not on Zindra will think "Why we should join a 'Zindra'-group … we aren't there."

* For the ACUG-Meetings … which are an "LL office hour" should be opened a new group, e.g. "ACUG - Adult Content Users".
* This group is a center of communication …
* … and an "umbrella" for all.
* The other Group-LEaders should be at least as the leader in.
* With roles can be controlled the way, how much the people can communicate … and spammer become taken the chat-option.
* Advertising for event only in a LIMITED mass.

-- FIN --

----

== '''[[Actual Topics on Zindra and the ACUG:]]''' (outdated, 20.06.2011) ==

'''The 'ZEXPO'-group'''

This group was created for the last "ZEXPO" (Zindra Expo...sition).
Some still poke on, it is outdated and best should become deleted or similar. Also that some people have more rights in the group bring for some no pleasure up.

It have become a group to exchange informations and so on, also to organize events, and, and, and.

My suggestion is, to make it an "only event related"-group ... where an "event" is a thing with a wide effect, a community thing ... and not the grand-opening of the next biker-bar.

The Owner-ship goes to a group of 3 or 4 people, with them the most agree ... and which are not the "typical main-actors". Also the responsible LL-staff(s) should be visible.

Per default all are in the "Everyone" role - the role have nearly NO RIGHTS (only get informations). For events exists a set of typical roles, the event-leaders become set to.

I was talk before with two of our "main actors", Counter and Ginette, and both was have something to say about that. I still stay with my suggestions.

Special for my next suggestion, Counter would prefer to remove all people from the event group, while no event is on - main point is "Security". I don't agree with that - on events will be mostly the same people. This way stay a kind of sub-community of event-addicted people.
Also if the situation have become more stable, there is the hope, events running day after day - one event finished, the next starts up ... makes no time to left.

'''Running the 'Event Island' (the 4 Sims)'''

In the meeting, Amanda was make clear, she will not have the time to run such an island, like Blondin was maybe have it.

An idea was, to let the users to all, but "estate-manager rights" would be not working. About the location of the Sims, it can be easy missed, they are part of the main-land ... and mainland is 1 estate.

If it would be possible, to have a separated estate, but liked to the Zindra-Continent, that would be surely fantastic, but I think, it's not possible and not in the allowed part of rules from LL.
It would make "parceling" possible and other things, but in the past also the other ways have work.

My suggestion is, the 4 island sims become owned by the "ZEXPO"-group.

The "Owners" of the ZEXPO-Group are responsible for:
* keep the place clean
* special: clean up after events
* set permissions to group-members for events …
* … take the permissions.
* manage event-appointments (keep the calendar)
* negotiate between people if their dates collides

Counter was seeing security issues, but Sims/parcels can be set to "Group Only can build" ... and in the Group-roles can be set, a Group can build on the land ... or not.

'''Creating a new Group (ACUG) for all'''

A kind of "Umbrella group" for ALL residents.

The "Zindra Alliance" is a private group. Everyone can join ... but the owner can toss them out and "rules".

The ACUG should be similar to, for example, the "Second Life Beta" ( [ secondlife:///app/group/19657888-576f-83e9-2580-7c3da7c0e4ca/about secondlife:///app/group/19657888-576f-83e9-2580-7c3da7c0e4ca/about Second Life Beta-Group] ).

The Group is there to access the Test-Sandboxes, but is also a exchange-group for some tech-stuff.

Spammer become taken their chat-rights, Group-notices only for rare people on request.

''Well ... open for discussion.''

User:Zada Bury

2011-06-26T18:02:24Z

Zada Bury: Update of Work of the ACUG at 26.06.2011 about the requests on the OH at 20.06.2011

Find me in World.

Here is some work in and with ACUG (Adult Content User Group), in resulting of the Life and work on Zindra, SL's adult-rated mainland.
Details about, you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group (ACUG on the SL-Wiki)] .

A Part of the Zindra-related 'Issues' is an event-Island for expositions and other kind of (user-created and runned) events.

'''The event-island-Sims are here:'''

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Distrel/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Distrel/128/128/25 (Distrel, left top)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Tramboyn/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Tramboyn/128/128/25 (Tramboyn, left bottom)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Girenzi/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Girenzi/128/128/25 (Girenzi, right top)]

[http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jaraded/128/128/25 http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jaraded/128/128/25 (Jaraded, left top)]

----

== Suggestions and Changes about the ACUG and the Community-managed Sims. 26. June 2011 ==

The requests from LL changes a bit the plans and suggestions.

Sadly some people love to keep point on useless wishes and are not able to start think in an other direction. But for that we are "a community", so "some" can make suggestions and help others to think.

'''First: ''Let us be clear about the further community-work, special "the 5 Sims" (1x Zindra-Sim, 4x ZExpo-Islsand Sims).'''''

LL want, we become responsible for the Sim-management.
* It saves work on their side.
* It makes some things more easy for us ("building on, building off", "please return stuff", …).

We can win from that … 
… but we have to make clear "We manage, but we not pay tier". 
We do there something for SL, something for (adult) mainland, something what brings there Life in, something what makes SL stronger.

----

'''I think we all want and agree with the future existence of these community-projects, but let me show other options:'''

'''''Zindra-Sim:'''''

This marketing-disaster in the middle of Zindra (continent) - what a Sim-Name.
No, there will not come up the discussion again to "make it mature-rated and make to an Verification-Hub"!

But: ''Do we want the Sim, do we need the Sim, can we do it?''

'''Option 1:'''
* We tell LL, the should renamed it. (Example "Zindra Mall")
* LL can take it back …
* … and use, like their original plan was (Mall like the Mosh-Building or what else).
==> We would loose the Sim … but we would have nothing to do with. It safes us work.

'''Option 2:'''
* We let rename the Sim, to avoid the marketing-problems. (Example "Zindra Adult Info-HUB")
* We find 5 people to run the Sim.
* We use the existing buildings … and adding own (floating area, underwater area, maybe something at the sides at the lake).
* We use the Sim for a center of information about Zindra, about Adult-Life in SL, adult learning, community-work and more.
==> We can show these, which want "lock adult away" and don'T agree with us, that we can be also nice and create not only naughty stuff.
==> It would make a new step and a footage of a working together.

'''''ZExpo-Islands:'''''

4 Sims at the edge of Zindra.

Also here the questions: ''Do we want the Sims, do we need the Sims, can we do it?''

'''Option 1:'''
* We tell LL, they can have them back and put on sale.
==> Never again would be events like the "ZExpo", the "Art Maze", maybe also "Zindra unzipped" or the (canceled) "Bed Fair" (from Lias) possible.
==> Nobody will give 4 or even only 3 or 2 complete Sims to use for a month.
==> It would be a lost, but we would have much less work and can focus again on "the green street glow".

'''Option 2:'''
* We find 5 to run the Sims.
* We fill the Sims with (event) Life …
* … following some "rules" or "recommended usages", but not acting "stolid" on needings.
==> We can continue our community-work and advertise Zindra, SL and adult mainland to make a benefit for us.

I think, we all are clear about "'''we want continue it'''".

----

== Solutions: ==

'''Solution Land-Management:'''

* One Group have the ownership of the Sims.
* Different roles in the group can be used for Event-planing and Event-running.

Counter want, the group become cleared from people (except owners) after each event. That is bad, if it's a group of "event addicted people". 
There was other "issues", like security-problems ("People can build"), but that can be switched off in roles. 
He was make one valuable point for the "cleaning": Maybe some want to planing some "secrets". 

My suggestion:
* We create a ''complete new group for the Land-management''. ("Zindra Community Land-Mgm")
* The group ''CAN be used also for event planing'', but if some people come up with an own group, they can do planing there.
* For building and e.g. "DJ's (stream-change)" the event-people become invited into the group - an "Event Leader" can put them into the different roles.
* If the event-leader wish, "building for all" can be switched on (so no invite for building would be needed).
* ''The group become cleaned after each event.''

The Land-managers are more "Janitors", keeping the land clean, manage the dates and so on … 
… the events ''the community have to bring and make''!

'''Solution Event-Management:'''

* As long no dates collides, is "everything" possible.
* A continuous stay on the Sims is not allowed.

Counter was set some "rules":
* Booking only 6 months before.
* No use of the same person each time.
* Longest event-time 6 weeks.

''I don't agree complete with these ideas, even I understand them.''

> ''Fixed booking only 6 months before is ok, pre-booking up to a year possible''. The month before the next events become "fixed booked", they become narrowed in the meetings. Pre-booking events are part of discussion.
> ''"traditional events" become priority''. Example: Gin start after the finish of the "ZExpo 2011" the planing for the "ZExpo 2012". If she set to "august 2012" an event (in the pre-booking phase) … and someone bring up a "mysterious disturbing we-sit-on-the-grass-and-do-nothing event", the tradition get priority.
> If the same person doing one event after the other … and these ''events are unique (!)'' … ''why shouldn't make the same person events again and again''? If some people from community bring up other events, they are welcome … but only because "oh, it's that one again" the island will not stay empty.
> "Longest event-time 6 weeks" … maybe that will fork for some events … maybe if we have some pre-fabricated buildings for the Island in the inventory, that will work … for some events, it will NOT work. ''6 weeks = 2/3 weeks "move in", 3/2 weeks "event", 1 week "clean up".'' For an event like the "Art Maze" impossible. ''8 weeks / 2 months should be possible, if nobody before uses the island a use before would be possible'' (it it's in use, maybe we can find a solution of use of only 1 of the Sims … or the people have to doing prefabs in the Sandbox … the measures of the Sim don't change and the final fitting should be possible in 4 weeks "move in").

'''Solution "ZExpo-Group":'''

About this group was each time discussions.
We let it existing, as it is.

Option 1:
* Ownership goes to the 5 Land-managers, too.
* It be used as an continuous event group.

Option 2:
* Ownership goes to Ginette as Event-Leader of the "ZExpo".
* The group can also be an "opposite" to the "Zindra Alliance"-group.

Option 3:
* Group become renamed to "Zindra Adult Events" (or something similar).

'''Solution ACUG:'''

In the moment exists only the "Zindra Alliance", other groups are … simple said "non existing". 
But we loose power and be less strong, we could be: Adult people, which are not on Zindra will think "Why we should join a 'Zindra'-group … we aren't there."

* For the ACUG-Meetings … which are an "LL office hour" should be opened a new group, e.g. "ACUG - Adult Content Users".
* This group is a center of communication …
* … and an "umbrella" for all.
* The other Group-LEaders should be at least as the leader in.
* With roles can be controlled the way, how much the people can communicate … and spammer become taken the chat-option.
* Advertising for event only in a LIMITED mass.

-- FIN --

----

== '''[[Actual Topics on Zindra and the ACUG:]]''' (outdated, 20.06.2011) ==

'''The 'ZEXPO'-group'''

This group was created for the last "ZEXPO" (Zindra Expo...sition).
Some still poke on, it is outdated and best should become deleted or similar. Also that some people have more rights in the group bring for some no pleasure up.

It have become a group to exchange informations and so on, also to organize events, and, and, and.

My suggestion is, to make it an "only event related"-group ... where an "event" is a thing with a wide effect, a community thing ... and not the grand-opening of the next biker-bar.

The Owner-ship goes to a group of 3 or 4 people, with them the most agree ... and which are not the "typical main-actors". Also the responsible LL-staff(s) should be visible.

Per default all are in the "Everyone" role - the role have nearly NO RIGHTS (only get informations). For events exists a set of typical roles, the event-leaders become set to.

I was talk before with two of our "main actors", Counter and Ginette, and both was have something to say about that. I still stay with my suggestions.

Special for my next suggestion, Counter would prefer to remove all people from the event group, while no event is on - main point is "Security". I don't agree with that - on events will be mostly the same people. This way stay a kind of sub-community of event-addicted people.
Also if the situation have become more stable, there is the hope, events running day after day - one event finished, the next starts up ... makes no time to left.

'''Running the 'Event Island' (the 4 Sims)'''

In the meeting, Amanda was make clear, she will not have the time to run such an island, like Blondin was maybe have it.

An idea was, to let the users to all, but "estate-manager rights" would be not working. About the location of the Sims, it can be easy missed, they are part of the main-land ... and mainland is 1 estate.

If it would be possible, to have a separated estate, but liked to the Zindra-Continent, that would be surely fantastic, but I think, it's not possible and not in the allowed part of rules from LL.
It would make "parceling" possible and other things, but in the past also the other ways have work.

My suggestion is, the 4 island sims become owned by the "ZEXPO"-group.

The "Owners" of the ZEXPO-Group are responsible for:
* keep the place clean
* special: clean up after events
* set permissions to group-members for events …
* … take the permissions.
* manage event-appointments (keep the calendar)
* negotiate between people if their dates collides

Counter was seeing security issues, but Sims/parcels can be set to "Group Only can build" ... and in the Group-roles can be set, a Group can build on the land ... or not.

'''Creating a new Group (ACUG) for all'''

A kind of "Umbrella group" for ALL residents.

The "Zindra Alliance" is a private group. Everyone can join ... but the owner can toss them out and "rules".

The ACUG should be similar to, for example, the "Second Life Beta" ( [ secondlife:///app/group/19657888-576f-83e9-2580-7c3da7c0e4ca/about secondlife:///app/group/19657888-576f-83e9-2580-7c3da7c0e4ca/about Second Life Beta-Group] ).

The Group is there to access the Test-Sandboxes, but is also a exchange-group for some tech-stuff.

Spammer become taken their chat-rights, Group-notices only for rare people on request.

Well ... open for discussion.

Adult Content User Group

2011-06-20T17:45:42Z

Zada Bury:

User:Zada Bury

2011-06-20T17:32:09Z

Zada Bury: Created page with "Find me in World. Here is some work in and with ACUG (Adult Content User Group), in resulting of the Life and work on Zindra, SL's adult-rated mainland. Details about, you can f…"

Adult Content User Group

2011-04-18T17:42:34Z

Zada Bury:

{{User Group Page
|purpose= Discuss Issues Concerning Zindra and Adult Content with [[User:Blondin_Linden|Blondin Linden]]
[[Linden_Lab_Official:User_Groups|Back to User Group Page]]
|date-time= Mondays at 11am SLT
|location= [http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bronlen/107/224/36 Bronlen]
|team=
|archive=
|agenda= Feel free to add agenda items that you would like to discuss. Each meeting I will start from the top and work my way down the list. If you propose an item and are not there in person to discuss, the item will be skipped. I would like to see agenda items in a box, like below, with only the very basic information. Please do not edit agenda items that are not yours.

Date: April 18, 2011
<table class="lltable" border="1">
<tr>
<th>Topic</th>
<th>Proposed By</th>
<th>Links</th>
<th>Jira Number</th>
<th>Old or New Business</th>
<th>Comments</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>Welcome</th>
<th>Welcoming Committee</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>n/a</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>The Great Castle Build</th>
<th>BBQ, Gina</th>
<th>https://sites.google.com/site/zindrahelpvortex/home/castle-build-team-competition</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>new</th>
<th>n/a</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Update on status of veiwer 1.x</td>
<td>Hypatia Meili</td>
<td>n/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New</td>
<td>Question for Blondin: Is there currently any time frame planned for retiring it?</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Maturity settings for groups. Do they have any effect?</td>
<td>Hypatia Meili</td>
<td>n/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New</td>
<td>Questions for Blondin: Can teens join? Will we get adult groups?</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Will we get Maturity setings for profiles?</td>
<td>Hypatia Meili</td>
<td>n/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New(reprise)</td>
<td>Or a mature/adult section in profiles.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Moving the meeting's to a better day...</td>
<td>Janicka Engineer</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New</td>
<td>Change the current schedule meeting from Monday 11:00 am SL time on Friday 14:00, or Saturday or Sunday (11:00 am SL Time).</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Zindra Magazine</td>
<td>Janicka Engineer</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New</td>
<td>Publishing every weekend, the official magazine of Zindra grid, such as reports of the meetings about the future Zindra, news on the grid, other useful information. The necessary equipment has been purchased (magazine HUD kiosks, etc.). Now you need to get capable editors.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>Eye On Zindra Photo Event</th>
<th>Gina, sabra</th>
<th>https://sites.google.com/site/zindrapromenade/home/zindra-exposed-2011</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>new</th>
<th>n/a</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>WIKI for New Residents
(off Topic)</th>
<th>Zada Bury</th>
<th>https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group
NOTE TO NEW USERS: If you have a single-word username, then you cannot currently log in to the SL wiki to edit articles. However, you can view all articles.
We are working on this issue, and hope to resolve it soon (11/17/10).</th>
<th>? (maybe)</th>
<th>new + known</th>
<th>New Residents can't enter Topics ... since Nov.2010</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>Adult Sandbox not in Resources</th>
<th>Zada Bury</th>
<th>http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Building-tips/ta-p/700041#Public_Linden_sandboxes</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>new</th>
<th>The new (adult rated) Linden-Sandbox is not in the List. Maybe not only the Zindarians hope for something like that.</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>Age Verification no longer works for non-USians?</th>
<th>Innula Zenovka</th>
<th>http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Accessing-Adult-land-and-content/ta-p/805975</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>new</th>
<th>According to Jeremy Linden's April 15 revision of this article, ''Age verification only works for U.S. citizens at this time.''This appears not to be the case, since I've just created an alt and verified her by using my UK passport. The article seems in urgent need of correction.</th>

<tr>
<th>Dress-Code on 'Waterhead'
Mature-/PG-Dresscode</th>
<th>for: Heuristic
Resident
(by Zada Bury)</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>new</th>
<th>Waterhead has a no "no nudity" sign - Waterhead - "No Nudity" sign intentionally hidden?'. It looks like it was intentionally modified.
Also curious about any difference between Mature and PG dress codes and conduct and if not, why?</th>
</tr>

</table>

}}

Adult Content User Group

2011-04-11T06:53:49Z

Zada Bury:

{{User Group Page
|purpose= Discuss Issues Concerning Zindra and Adult Content with [[User:Blondin_Linden|Blondin Linden]]
[[Linden_Lab_Official:User_Groups|Back to User Group Page]]
|date-time= Mondays at 11am SLT
|location= [http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bronlen/107/224/36 Bronlen]
|team=
|archive=
|agenda= Feel free to add agenda items that you would like to discuss. Each meeting I will start from the top and work my way down the list. If you propose an item and are not there in person to discuss, the item will be skipped. I would like to see agenda items in a box, like below, with only the very basic information. Please do not edit agenda items that are not yours.

Date: April 11, 2011
<table class="lltable" border="1">
<tr>
<th>Topic</th>
<th>Proposed By</th>
<th>Links</th>
<th>Jira Number</th>
<th>Old or New Business</th>
<th>Comments</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>Welcome</th>
<th>Welcoming Committee</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>n/a</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>The Great Castle Build</th>
<th>BBQ, Gina</th>
<th>https://sites.google.com/site/zindrahelpvortex/home/castle-build-team-competition</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>new</th>
<th>n/a</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Update on status of veiwer 1.x</td>
<td>Hypatia Meili</td>
<td>n/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New</td>
<td>Question for Blondin: Is there currently any time frame planned for retiring it?</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Maturity settings for groups. Do they have any effect?</td>
<td>Hypatia Meili</td>
<td>n/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New</td>
<td>Questions for Blondin: Can teens join? Will we get adult groups?</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Will we get Maturity setings for profiles?</td>
<td>Hypatia Meili</td>
<td>n/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New(reprise)</td>
<td>Or a mature/adult section in profiles.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Moving the meeting's to a better day...</td>
<td>Janicka Engineer</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New</td>
<td>Change the current schedule meeting from Monday 11:00 am SL time on Friday 14:00, or Saturday or Sunday (11:00 am SL Time).</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Zindra Ambassador Program</td>
<td>Janicka Engineer</td>
<td>[https://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-ambassador-program]</td>
<td>N/A</td>
<td>New</td>
<td>Start training for the staff of ambassadors for the whole grid Zindra, who interviewed the randomly selected residents Zindra indefinitely questions (anonymously) as a pre-prepared form (note-card) or a web form with questions about service improvement and development Zindra Grid.</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>Eye On Zindra Photo Event</th>
<th>Gina, sabra</th>
<th>https://sites.google.com/site/zindrapromenade/home/zindra-exposed-2011</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>new</th>
<th>n/a</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>WIKI for New Residents
(off Topic)</th>
<th>Zada Bury</th>
<th>https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content_User_Group
NOTE TO NEW USERS: If you have a single-word username, then you cannot currently log in to the SL wiki to edit articles. However, you can view all articles.
We are working on this issue, and hope to resolve it soon (11/17/10).</th>
<th>? (maybe)</th>
<th>new + known</th>
<th>New Residents can't enter Topics ... since Nov.2010</th>
</tr>

<tr>
<th>Adult Sandbox not in Resources</th>
<th>Zada Bury</th>
<th>http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Building-tips/ta-p/700041#Public_Linden_sandboxes</th>
<th>n/a</th>
<th>new</th>
<th>The new (adult rated) Linden-Sandbox is not in the List. Maybe not only the Zindarians hope for something like that.</th>
</tr>

</table>

}}

Blondin Linden's Zindra Office Hour Agenda

2011-01-10T18:42:32Z

Zada Bury:

[https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Blondin_Linden Back to Blondin's Profile]

*Going forward, I would like to see agenda items in a box, like below, with only the very basic information. It doesn't need to be a book. I've tried to copy everything over so if I missed something, I'm sorry. It wasn't intentional. - Blondin

Action Items / Take Aways
*Zindra Expo Charter - I'll take another crack
*Podyan: Moles are working on it
*Talk to Lexie
*Lets think about getting a calendar set up for Expo Island reservations:
**Art Maze (Nov/Dec/Jan)
**Unzipped (Feb, March, April) tentatively holding while proposal is being drafted
**Bedfair (Sept, Oct Nov)tentatively holding while proposal is being drafted
**Zexpo: Pending proposal for Zindra Unzipped, ZEXPO 2011 is tentatively scheduled to occur in April.

Date: January 10, 2011
{| border="1"
! Topic !! Proposed By !! Links !! Jira Number? !! Old or New Business !! Comments
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|Topic|| Proposed by || Link||JIRA # || Old or New Business|| Comments|| |-
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|Art Maze Report|| Ginette Pinazzo || https://sites.google.com/site/artmazeinsecondlife/||JIRA # || Old|| Comments|| |-
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|Zindra PR Brainstorming Team|| Ginette Pinazzo || http://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-pr-team||JIRA # || New|| Comments|| |-
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|Designer Slideshow Kiosks|| Ginette Pinazzo || https://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/designer-slideshow-kiosks||JIRA # || New|| Comments|| |-
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|Zindra Sim Name Change|| Ginette Pinazzo || https://sites.google.com/site/zindrabusiness/home/zindra-sim-name-change||JIRA # || Newish|| Comments|| |-
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|Protection again Underage Residents || Zada Bury || ./. ||JIRA # (maybe existing) || New Business || Migration of Teen- to Main-Grid cause underage ppl get access to our Profiles. Kind of Warning possible, if resident chatting with is underage/Teen? || |-
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