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File:Geek Award.jpg

2016-01-19T19:17:27Z

Zai Lynch: Zai Lynch uploaded a new version of "File:Geek Award.jpg": fix broken includes(?)

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User:Zai Lynch

2014-07-05T00:16:32Z

Zai Lynch:

'''301'''

The SL avatar you're looking for is not here anymore.

You might have more luck on [https://twitter.com/ZaiLynch Twitter] or [https://z.ai/lynch elsewhere].

In case you're nostalgic (like me), you can find [[User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II|old pages over here]].

User:Zai Lynch

2014-07-05T00:16:12Z

Zai Lynch:

'''301'''

The SL avatar you're looking for is not here anymore.

You might have more luck at [https://twitter.com/ZaiLynch Twitter] or [https://z.ai/lynch elsewhere].

In case you're nostalgic (like me), you can find [[User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II|old pages over here]].

User:Zai Lynch

2014-07-05T00:14:27Z

Zai Lynch: moved User:Zai Lynch to User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II: well...

#REDIRECT [[User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II]]

User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II

2014-07-05T00:14:27Z

Zai Lynch: moved User:Zai Lynch to User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II: well...

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User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II

2014-05-01T19:20:35Z

Zai Lynch: weird ... undo

User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II

2014-05-01T19:16:09Z

Zai Lynch: fixing design issues in chrome

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User:Strife Onizuka

2014-04-17T18:03:49Z

Zai Lynch: ;-)

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'''Subpages'''
* Personal
** {{Sub|Miscellaneous}}
* Code
** {{Sub|int2hex}}
** {{Sub|int2hexdword}}
** {{Sub|hexchars}}
** {{Sub|Float Functions}}
** {{Sub|String Tree}}
** [[GetRootLocalPos]]
* Articles
** {{Sub|The State of State}}
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== About Strife ==

=== Synopses ===

Strife joined 3/3/2004, and is an avid scripter, wiki author and SL forum denizen. Not content in selfish information gathering, he shares what he knows through various mediums, so that others may benefit and learn. He volunteers his time to work on many public projects which include: giving scripting advice, writing LSL documentation, providing and improving LSL scripts and libraries. Secondlife has been on Strife's brain for that last {{AgeUnit|03|03|2004}}.

=== SL Status ===

Strife is unemployed. Leave me a note on my talk page.

=== Honors ===

Through his public works Strife became a pillar of the SL community.


Strife is a Hippo award winner, [http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/08/25/innovation-award-winners-announced/ awarded "Best Community Organizer" in the 2007 Linden Lab Innovation Awards], and here is [[Linden Lab Innovation Awards|his mention as a runner-up in the 2008 "Best Documentation" category:]] "Last year's winner, Strife Onizuka, continued to be insanely prolific, with thousands of edits over the past year.... Anyone learning LSL is almost certainly indebted to Strife's work in some way."

=== Own Words ===

I'm an immigrant from URU. Was in all 3 of it's beta's.

Wiki Gnome (causing drama isn't why I'm here) for about {{#expr:(({{ #time: U | {{LOCALDAY2}}.{{LOCALMONTH}}.{{LOCALYEAR}} }} - {{ #time: U | 3.3.2004 }}) / 31557600) round 0}} years.

I <del>have</del><ins>had</ins> a webpage but I haven't updated it in <del>a few</del><ins>many</ins> <del>months</del><ins>years</ins>...

Wiki's are the way of the future when it comes to making documentation Ad-hoc but eventually become static as graffiti grows with popularity as a way of controlling it.

also contribute to some other wiki's
*[http://history.secondserver.net/index.php/Main_Page History Wiki]
*[http://www.AviSynth.org/BlindWanderer AviSynth:BlindWanderer]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BlindWanderer Wikipedia:BlindWanderer]

When it comes to writing I tend to go towards concise. A short accurate description is better then a long equally accurate description; less to get confused with, easier to find the important information (because it is ''all'' important).

{{Jira Reporter}}
{{skills
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|Scripter=*
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== Scite/ESL ==
My config files:
*[https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B78L5DGHe6YrV2FFWlE2VTJ4S28&usp=sharing Google Drive]
** lsl.api
** lsl.properties
** stripper.zip - Whitespace stripper
** clipboard.zip - copies text to clipboard
*[https://github.com/Makopo/lslint lslint] (Makopo's fork)
**[http://kwdb.googlecode.com/hg/outputs/builtins.txt builtins.txt] - Up to date keyword file for lslint (generated by [http://code.google.com/p/kwdb/ kwdb])
*[http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/indent.htm indent - code beautifier] (picks up where the whitespace stripper leaves off)
*[http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualc/ MSVC Express]

==TightList==
See [[TightList]]

==Float Functions==
See [[/Float Functions]]

==BitCount==
<lsl>integer bitcount(integer n)
{//MIT Hackmem 169, modified to work in LSL
integer tmp = n - ((n >> 1) & 0x5B6DB6DB)//modified mask
- ((n >> 2) & 0x49249249);
return (((tmp + (tmp >> 3)) & 0xC71C71C7) % 63) - (n >> 31);
}</lsl>

==Tenebrous==
<lsl>string ignore = "c228d1cf-4b5d-4ba8-84f4-899a0796aa97";

list Tenebrous(){
integer link = llGetNumberOfPrims();
list out;
string s;
for(link -= (link == 1); !llGetLinkNumberOfSides(link);)
{
list t = llGetLinkPrimitiveParams(link, [PRIM_TEXTURE, ALL_SIDES]);
integer i = t != [];
while((i -= 4) >= 0)
if(ignore != (s = llList2String(t, i)))
out = [i >> 2, s] + out;
out = llGetLinkKey(link--) + out;
}
return out;
}</lsl>

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User talk:Zai Lynch

2013-08-03T07:18:05Z

Zai Lynch: /* Reverting the revert */

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== SLurl ==

Awhile ago, you used bot magic to replace "SLURL" with "SLurl". I've been requested to make sure this is consistent on LLO articles — do you have a list of articles where you found matches but were unable to change them? I did a few manually. {{TorSig}} on 2009-11-23 @ 1:47 PM Pacific

:I don't have one at the moment, but it's rather simple to get it :-) Check back in an hour ^_^ --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 22:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

:Not much to do for you. In LLO, there are only [[Linden Lab Official:What is Second Life Answers?]] and [[Linden Lab Official:Who are Lindens?]] which are still listing SLURL. Besides that there's only [[How do I use the World Map?]] where it refers to the current viewer's UI. I guess that one should stay until the UI is changed. Furthermore besides that, there are only image links within [[Using Second Life URLs (SLurls)]] which might probably stay as well, since the image links aren't visible for the common reader.
:These are all appearances within [[:Category:Knowledge Base]]. Might very well be that there are some elsewhere... --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 22:35, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

:P.S.: Maybe you can edit [https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2008/02/21/tip-of-the-week-23-using-slurls-for-easy-travel this old blog post] since it's beeing linked within the KB. --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 22:39, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

:: Sorry I didn't change these earlier! I like how I get an alert on-Wiki when my talk page is edited, but do you know if we can get alerts if I get responded to, like this? Anyway, on it now... and oh, we're trying to free ourselves from blog linking dependencies for help articles, so whenever I can make a Wiki page out of an article, we should do that. I'll find-and-replace that ol' TotW tho... oh wait, rats, an unexpected error keeps happening. But as long as we keep Wiki instances correct, that should be fine. {{TorSig}} on 2009-12-09 @ 6:14 AM Pacific

:::NP :-)
:::Hm... you mean something like<div class="usermessage">You have [[Special:Mytalk|new messages]] ([[Special:Mytalk|last change]]).</div>? ...Not that I knew of. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. AFAIK there are only the options named in the [[subscribe]] article (e.g. watchlist → mail), though I'll dig a little deeper and see what I can find. So far, I only found the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads LiquidThreads] extension that would allow to subscribe to certain discussions. But I'm not sure if it offers on-Wiki alerts or also "just" mail. And it's developed for MW 1.16, while we're currently on 1.14.1.
:::--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 15:38, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== KB and Help Portal sortage ==

So herein is a dilemma: I'm thankful for all the categorization you've done with the Help Portal, LONG before the KB ever lived on the Wiki. Now that we're transitioning, I've removed the Help Portal bar and put KBmaster on assorted articles. BUT, I don't want to be inconsiderate and am concerned if that may remove vital entries, like [[rez]]. What are your thoughts on this? {{TorSig}} on 2009-11-23 @ 11:51 AM Pacific

:Hmm... I got to say that I'm not too worried about the header since I got an unproven feeling that the bar itself is hardly used. I might back that up by using [http://tr.im tr.im]-ed URLs in the header for a week or two, in order to see how often these are clicked. I think that most people will still travel from article to article either via the search or via links within articles, rather than via categories. But as I said, it's just a feeling.
:However, I'm not sure about the future of the help categories... Stuff like [[:Category:Help/Land]] will probably be overshadowed by [[:Category:Land]] soon and slowly fade away while articles become merged. So in the long run, the Help Header will become useless anyway since most categories won't hold a meaningful amount of articles anymore. And the [[Help Portal]] should probably be redirected to the [[KB]] at that point. [[:Category:Glossary]] seems to be the only category that might remain in the end and it's items (like [[rez]]) can probably be linked within related articles when the terminology is used. And in case that is really the only category that remains, one might even create a template for glossary articles, having a certain recognizable style and linking to the category again. I'm not afraid that they'll die out since they're (and might probably remain) an integral part of SL.
:--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 22:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

== That dang Advanced menu ==

Hey Zai, the Knowledge Base isn't meant to cover unsupported stuff, as useful as it may be (like [[Rebaking textures]]). I encourage simply linking to the [[Advanced]] page instead of typing the keystroke each time to activate, so that Residents are well-apprised of its benefits AND what they should NOT expect. =) '''- [[Image:Torley-favicon.png]] [[User:Torley Linden|Torley]] on 2009-11-02 @ 3:38 PM PST'''
:Ah, ok, NP. :-)
:BTW: Something weird happened to the article... I made my edit and validated it. Then you made your edit and validated it.
:Expected would be, that it shows your version as default (stable) and that there is ''no draft'' anymore since yours was the latest edit.
:However, it is showing yours as default and mine as draft. This is a little strange. It might be that we were both editing at the same time and that this was causing it. I'll fix it in a few, but wanted to mention it, since it's unexpected and may lead to unwanted outcome in the future, when it's unnoticed. (An editor editing your stable page will automatically be prompted to my draft. This isn't desired behaviour.)
:More BTW: I'd like to incorporate parts of [[User:Lum Pfohl/Troubleshooting#Avatar Covered With Onscreen Textures]] in the article (she mentioned to be fine with using her content in other articles). Also an explanation about how baking works, since it's often mentioned by Residents that "''it can't be my system, since other people are seeing it too!''". They need to understand that ''their'' system is not just baking but also ''distributing'' the textures. It seems to be technical overkill but when they don't understand that part, then they might dismiss the article and search for another, since they might think that it's not covering their problem.
:And something completly different: When moving pages to a new spot, please move them including all subpages (I think there should always be a checkbox for that). Reason is, to not bury the redirects to translated pages (e.g. <pagename>/de, <pagename>/fr, etc.).
:Hm... I think that was all for the moment. And I should go to bed ^^
:--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 00:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::I see I didn't look to closely and what you added meanwhile. The sentence "''These defects are visible to other people...''" might be enough for the above mentioned problem.
::--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 00:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::: I forgot about moving subpages a few times, I'm sorry, and understand! I've been doing it since then.
::: As usual, you and Lum are free to improve [[Rebaking textures]] or anything else you go, "There's an important point or two here that will help someone to understand a technical concept ''far'' better!" This is especially true for '''Advanced''' features, even if we don't support 'em. {{TorSig}} on 2009-11-23 @ 11:49 AM Pacific

== [[User_talk:Soft_Linden#sensor_caveat]] ==

Strife and Zai, Just a note to ask if you can keep an eye on [[User_talk:Soft_Linden#sensor_caveat]], I noticed that it's linked at least twice on [[Sensor]] and quite possibly a few other places (unfortunately there's no what links here for header anchors) so if Soft archives the discussion it will break a bunch of links. I'm not about to go on Soft's talk page and ask him not to ever archive a discussion but since you two keep a very close eye on anything that changes anywhere on the wiki I figured you might see if it's ever disturbed. Thanks. [[User:Gordon_Wendt|''GW'']] ([[User talk:Gordon_Wendt|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Gordon Wendt|C]]) -- 15:03, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Heyas! :-)
:Sure thing. [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Strife_Onizuka&curid=25082&diff=649383&oldid=649342 As Strife said], maybe it's best to turn these into version links. Will do that in a minute :-)
:--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 00:14, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== Just a quick question ==
Hi Zai,
I was wondering if I empty [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=User:Torben_Trautman/Sandbox/Translating2&redirect=no this page], will something be broke? Or does the redirect just happen automatically when a page is moved so that I can just clean it up? --[[User:Torben Trautman|Torben Trautman]] 16:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Und ich habe keine Ahnung, warum ich auf englisch frage... --[[User:Torben Trautman|Torben Trautman]] 16:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

:lol ^^
:ganz kurze Antwort, weil ich schnell los muss zu 'ner Verabredung ^^:
:Japp, der Redirect wird beim Verschieben automatisch erstellt und nein, geht nix kaputt, wenn du aufräumst :D
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>hugz* --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 16:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

== [[Template:SLCert Navbox]] ==
Hello Zai. I saw your change to the template. Very good, I wish I'd thought of it. Thank you. :-) [[User:Orange Planer|Orange Planer]] 23:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:Very welcome! :D --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 00:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

== Chat ==
I took your idea and style and made my own chat box on my page and i made an object inventory thingy :P

--[[File:Uglehsig.png|53px|link=User:Ugleh_Ulrik]]([[User_talk:Ugleh_Ulrik|talk]]) 08:39, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hehe, noticed :) Looks neat! --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 22:59, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

== We broke default breadcrumbs ==

Zai,
I know you're busy with other stuff these days, but I wanted to let you know that we weren't able to fix the issue with default breadcrumbs, and decided not to hold up the wiki move because of it or a couple other issues... I have noted this issue in [[Second Life Wiki Known Issues]], and I hope we can resolve it, but to be honest I don't currently have an idea of why it is happening. I believe it may be related to caching, but am not sure. The problem occurred when the developers made a change to the Breadcrumbs extension that improved performance by an order of magnitude, so it seemed worthwhile keeping it. We'll keep looking at it to try to fix it. If you have any suggestions, we would greatly appreciate your insight.

Thanks,
--[[User:Rand Linden|Rand Linden]] 00:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

:Hi Rand,
:Thanks for the heads-up! I don't know when I'll find time, though I'll investigate and will let you know when I find the cause / a work-around.
:Cheers :)
:--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 00:50, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

== hmm? ==

[https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Strife_Onizuka&curid=25082&diff=1129510&oldid=1129359 ...] If there were a comment, i'd respond with something like... "... yeah ...". If I want to talk to someone at the Lab about a project to encourage community involvement and improve wiki content, who should I talk to? I has an ebil idea that will probably work. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 09:10, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Hi Strife :)
:I made a mistake with my comment and removed it again once I figured out what was going wrong ^^
:I assumed that you said that you wouldn't have been aware of the [[Requested LSL Articles]] article and became curious about it, as you were the initial creator. But later I realized that you were talking about the [[llList2Float]] article, so I removed the comment again. I just now notice, that you've been the original creator of that one as well ^^ hm ...
:@Community involvement: Probably a DocTeam office hour or a mail to Torley via the contact form, In case it's not related to translations. In case it's about translations, then an email to Lexie :)
:At least that's what I think. I'm not really up-to-date anymore...
:BTW: Do you still get notification emails when your talkpage was changed? I got the feeling that the feature is broken, ever since the wiki-update ...
:--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 01:22, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

::I never enabled that feature, I visit the wiki often enough that I usually notice the changes pretty promptly. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 18:34, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

:::Ah, I see ... created {{JIRA|WEB-3458}}. --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 18:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

== Reverting the revert ==

Hey, thanks for editing my page. It only took me four years to respond! I'll rewrite the page, or just remove it entirely, it's a bit old. -[[User:Cow Taurog|Cow Taurog]] 19:01, 2 August 2013 (PDT)

: It seems you already removed it two years ago ;-) Time flies!
: --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 00:18, 3 August 2013 (PDT)

User:Zai Lynch/quote

2013-03-26T12:51:48Z

Zai Lynch: idle

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User:Zai Lynch/quote/preview

2013-03-26T11:37:44Z

Zai Lynch:

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Category talk:LSL Vector

2012-04-30T21:04:17Z

Zai Lynch: +{{unsigned|Zohan Galewind|06:29, 29 April 2012}}

<lsl>
//*******************************
//IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A ZERO_VECTOR
//*******************************

vector c = <0.0, 0.0, 0.1>;

default
{
touch_start(integer total_number)
{
c -= <0.0, 0.0, 0.025>;
llSay(0, (string)c);
if (c == ZERO_VECTOR) llSay(0, "ZERO_VECTOR"); // never c is a ZERO_VECTOR
}
}
</lsl>
<lsl>
//**********************
//IN THIS WAY IT RUNS...
//**********************

vector c = <0.0, 0.0, 0.1>;

default
{

touch_start(integer total_number)
{
c -= <0.0, 0.0, 0.025>;
llSay(0, (string)c);
if ((string)c == "<0.00000, 0.00000, 0.00000>") llSay(0, "ZERO_VECTOR");
}
}
</lsl>
{{unsigned|Zohan Galewind|06:29, 29 April 2012}}
----

The above is caused by how floating point math works. 0.1 does not fall on an exact boundary as a float, nor does 0.025. Furthermore the rounding on the two values do not exactly line up, so (4 * 0.025) != 0.1. This is not a bug but a caveat of using floating point math. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 11:00, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

Template talk:ISO 639-3

2012-04-28T15:33:15Z

Zai Lynch:

Is this template good for the wiki? I mean to say, how efficiently can it parse this template? -- [[User:Strife Onizuka|Strife Onizuka]] 15:53, 1 January 2008 (PST)
:It's a giant switch statement- aren't those relatively efficient compared to a series of if loops ?
:[[User:SignpostMarv Martin|SignpostMarv Martin]] 06:01, 2 January 2008 (PST)
::Could have this in O(1) instead of linear search by creating [[Template:ISO 639-3/deu]] to return "German", etc. and write this template as <nowiki>{{ISO 639/{{lc|{{{1|}}}}}}}</nowiki>. Though it would need the creation of 7646 pages to cover all cases...
::--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 08:33, 28 April 2012 (PDT)

LlGetOwner

2012-04-28T14:21:15Z

Zai Lynch: too many names

{{LSL_Function
|func_id=117|func_sleep=0.0|func_energy=10.0
|func=llGetOwner|sort=GetOwner
|return_type=key
|func_footnote
|func_desc
|return_text=that is the object owner's [[UUID]].
|spec
|caveats=*When the owner of an object changes, code that depends on this function's return value will not automatically update for the new owner or be automatically re-evaluated.
**This requires the reregistration of [[llListen|listens]] and [[llRequestPermissions|requesting of permissions]] from the new owner as needed.
***This is not limited to listens and permissions but anything that caches the return value, it is up to the programmer to work around this limitation.
**Detection of owner change can be achieved with the [[changed]] event in conjunction with the [[CHANGED_OWNER]] flag (see the second example) or by storing the old value and periodically (e.g. in [[on_rez]]) checking if it has changed. Both techniques are valid though the latter will not detect the sale of the object if it is sold with "sell original" in-world and not picked up.
*When the object is deeded to a group, the UUID returned is that of the group.
*When the owner is offline the region can lose the owner uuid and return NULL_KEY or (Loading)... in some rare cases.
|constants
|examples=
<lsl>llOwnerSay( (string)llGetOwner()); // speaks in chat the "key" (UUID code) of the avatar.
llOwnerSay( llKey2Name(llGetOwner())); // speaks in chat the name of the owner if in the sim.</lsl>

<lsl>default
{
state_entry()
{
llInstantMessage(llGetOwner(), "Only you can hear me. Isn't that eerie.");
}

changed(integer change)
{
if (change & CHANGED_OWNER)
llResetScript();
}
}</lsl>
|helpers
|also_functions=
{{LSL DefineRow||[[llGetCreator]]|}}
{{LSL DefineRow||[[llGetOwnerKey]]|}}
{{LSL DefineRow||[[llDetectedOwner]]|}}
|also_tests
|also_events
|also_articles
|notes=
To retrieve the owners name while the owner is in the region use [[llKey2Name]], [[llGetUsername]] or [[llGetDisplayName]]. Respectively [[llRequestAgentData]], [[llRequestUsername]] or [[llRequestDisplayName]] should be used when the owner is not in the region.

The one problem many coders come up against is that previously-activated events referring to the owner don't automatically change when the owner changes. The most often-seen result is a listen registered to owner will continue to listen to the PREVIOUS owner rather than the CURRENT owner. It is often confused as a bug in [[llGetOwner]] or [[llListen]] it is not in fact a bug but part of the design. There are several ways of working around this problem. The easy solution is to reset the script when owner changes or it is rezzed. The easy solution is not always the right solution.

There are two ways to detect if the owner has changed, the most reliable is to use the [[changed]] event.
<lsl>changed(integer change)
{
if (change & CHANGED_OWNER)//if owner changes, reset the script.
llResetScript();
}</lsl>

In many applications resetting the script when the object is rezzed is an adequate and easy solution.
<lsl>on_rez(integer start_param)
{ //when the object is rezzed, reset the script.
llResetScript();
}</lsl>

Resetting the script is not appropriate if the script needs to keep it's data when it's ownership is transfered or if script startup is slow, in these situations listens will need to be re-keyed to the new owner along with any other owner specific code, like who the script is supposed to be animating.

The [[on_rez]] and [[changed]] events can be harnessed to reinitialize owner specific code every time the object is rezzed or changes owner.

<lsl>integer listen_handle;

init()
{
key owner = llGetOwner();
llListenRemove(listen_handle);
listen_handle = llListen(0, "", owner, "");
llRequestPermissions(owner, PERMISSION_TRIGGER_ANIMATION);
}

default
{
state_entry()
{
init();
//insert additional startup code here that doesn't need to run each rez/owner change
//for example, reading settings from a notecard
}

on_rez(integer start)
{
init();
}

changed(integer change)
{
if (change & CHANGED_OWNER)
init();
}

run_time_permissions(integer perm)
{//always use the run_time_permissions event with llRequestPermissions, never assume
if(perm & PERMISSION_TRIGGER_ANIMATION)
{
//setup your animation code here, start your timers, etc.
llOwnerSay("I have animation permissions");
}
}
}</lsl>
|cat1=Owner
|cat2=Object
|cat3=Key
|cat4
}}

User:Zai Lynch/Webcal Feed

2011-08-23T12:19:54Z

Zai Lynch:

{{hCalendar subscribe}}__NOTOC__
This is a list of [[Office Hours]] I'm trying to attend when I got time for it. I compiled it here so I can subscribe to the feed via GCal, instead of having to import multiple feeds for each Linden or to have the complete feed of the office hour page clutter my calendar.

Mesh/LiveVolunteers

2011-07-23T08:39:29Z

Zai Lynch: /* Sandbox Testing Regions */

==What is Mesh?==
"Mesh upload" is the ability for residents to import 3D mesh objects from many popular programs, like Maya, 3DSMax, Blender, and others. If your region is mesh enabled, then you and other residents will be able to upload to their inventory and -subject to land rights of course- be able to rez and interact with mesh objects. A Mesh Project Viewer is required to see mesh objects; all other viewers will not see mesh objects, only a placeholder triangle or possibly an invisible object.
* https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh

==What are the limitations in this release?==
If you move rezzed mesh objects from a new mesh-enabled version to a sim running the current release version, '''they may be destroyed or broken permanently'''. This applies to attachments as well as objects like vehicles, etc.
If you attempt to rez mesh objects on a regular sim, '''it may rez invisible or look like a regular prim'''.
During this phase of the rollout, '''we may alter the Prim count for mesh objects and cause returns'''. The '''returns are not guaranteed to be mesh objects''', they might be anything in the parcel. '''We may do rollbacks and deploys with ''little or no notice'''''; our focus is not short-term sim stability but rather long term code stability as we prepare to deploy this grid-wide.
There is specific new behavior around prim count. There are a number of operations which could cause the cost for objects to be updated. If you are near the parcel limit, items could be returned to inventory. If you're the owner, then objects that belong to others on your land could be returned. The operations include: Scaling an object with mesh, linking or delinking objects with mesh objects.

==What are the risks in this release?==
* Objects may be destroyed or broken permanently.
* Uploaded mesh objects not guaranteed to work after the full mesh deploy.
* Prim cost of of mesh objects may change during this period.

==Am I eligible to participate==
*At the Region level -- Only private island owning Residents may participate, specifically Full Private Islands - No Homesteads or Openspaces.
*At the Resident level -- We'll have some sandboxes set up for people to test in.

==What we want you to do==
*We'd like to see people uploading and interacting with mesh objects.
*Just as important, we want people to continue using/interacting with prims and sculpties. We don't want to break anything already there.
*Old viewers (1.x based) should continue to work, but won't have support for mesh. You'll see a triangle, or possibly meshes will be invisible objects. Viewer 2 also cannot read mesh objects.
*Use the latest Mesh Viewer
** http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/mesh-development-rc/rev/236285/index.html

==What we DON'T want you to try==
* Don't move mesh objects between mesh regions and non-mesh regions - We aren't interested in testing that because soon it won't matter.
* Specifically, don't drive vehicles between the micro-channel regions and other regions. It may not work as expected. This issue will go away with full rollout.
* Don't sell things on the marketplace - we're not looking to test marketplace yet. Also, you'll likely end up with angry customers.
* Don't test mesh support on 1.x based viewers, or currently released 2.x viewers.

==How to volunteer==
===Region Owners===
*Region Owner submits a case under a specific case type with specific fields filled in using keywords that will enable us to find the cases:
**Case Type to be filed: Land & Region -> Region Performance Issues
*Specific case field input instructions:
**"Provide region name" field: Region Owner puts in name of 1 region to be included on micro channel, only
**"Please provide us with a SLURL or Parcel Coordinates to the region/parcel location in-world" field: Region Owner MUST place the word "Mesh" (no quotes) in this field. This will enable us to filter these specific cases out of the normal cases being submitted in that category.
**"Provide us with details regarding your region performance issue" field: Region Owner can simply state something along the lines of "Please place my Region X, in the Mesh RC Channel.
**Example Screen Shot of case submission page:
[[File:image.jpg]]

failure to follow this procedure will lead to sadness and the likelihood that your region will not be included in the test, because we will not see your case.

===Non Region Owners===
Residents can participate on shared public testing/sandbox regions. If you understand the risk and limitations above please join the group "Mesh Volunteers" on AGNI. This group will allow access to the Mesh Sandbox Regions. The list of public mesh testing sandbox regions is below.

==Mesh Volunteers Group==
Please join the following group to keep up to date with Mesh changes on AGNI and also to access the sandbox/testing regions:
*http://world.secondlife.com/group/3aa8389a-b658-7fb0-d0bb-75001a13db86

==How to Report Bugs==
If you find a problem related to mesh, or one which does not happen on a current production sim, please create an item in the public issue tracker at http://jira.secondlife.com/.
**How do I tell if I'm in a mesh region?
To submit a mesh bug:
1) Log in to the https://jira.secondlife.com/ page with your Second Life avatar name and password.
2) Click “Create New Issue”
3) Set PROJECT to “Mesh-Beta CTS” and ISSUE TYPE to “Bug”
4) On the next page, type step-by-step instructions for how to create the problem, and if specific products are involved include the product vendor name and specific product name and version. IMPORTANT: Please state what region you encountered the problem. If it's related to an upload and you have a generic test model, please attach the .dae file. If it's proprietary object, mention that you have the model and we can arrange to get it in a secure manner.

For a demo of the jira public issue tracker, see Torley’s great video “how to report a bug“.
Thanks in advance for helping to test the next generation Second Life simulator. We really appreciate your help in making Second Life better.
As we resolve issues and get closer to a version for release to the Second Life Grid, we will be deploying updated versions to our Early Adopter regions.

==Sandbox Testing Regions==
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%200/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%201/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%202/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%203/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%204/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%205/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%206/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%207/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%208/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%209/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%20a/128/128/30}}
* {{SLurl2|http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh%20Sandbox%20b/128/128/30}}

Marc3469 Nichols

2011-07-18T19:23:38Z

Zai Lynch: Redirected page to User:Marc3469 Nichols

#REDIRECT [[User:Marc3469 Nichols]]

User talk:Hawkster Westmoreland

2011-07-12T15:26:37Z

Zai Lynch:

Greetings to Hawk. Welcome to the wiki, where we laugh the day away editing and drinking honeyed [http://adamantine.wordpress.com/texts/magic-for-beginners-by-kelly-link/ Euphoria] from discarded plastic cups. Now fear not if you know not how to make your vorpal blade go snicker-snack, there are sword-masters abound. Questions may be answered in an untimely fashion but only if they are asked. So draw your sword and fear not, we cannot read minds, we assume ignorance and good intentions but not necessarily in that order and neither are sins. But never mind me, Orion the Bargain Hunter is rising and I think a new episode will be on soon but I must be asleep if I wish to catch it. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 00:09, 10 July 2011 (PDT)

P.S. My whims of lunacy are just window dressings, installed to make a simple handshake into something more mystical and occult. Next week we will teach you the secret handshake and how to spot other members of the tribe, welcome to the wiki.

: (o.O)
: What did you take and where can I get my share of it?! ^^
: Oh, and welcome Hawk! --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 13:51, 10 July 2011 (PDT)

::It struck me that a simple greeting would just not do. His introduction was reminiscent of humorous ways of speech. I wanted to channel enough insanity to make it interesting but not so much as to obscure the message (In some ways there is more honesty, absurdity is excused by the Wonderlandian theme). But really the first two sentences evolved first, and then I needed a drink... and what is more perfect than the mythical drink from Kelly Link's "Magic For Beginners" (the story is a real favorite of mine, a tv show that watches itself)? The problem is that I can't reference it too heavily without the reader reading it first, so I needed some bit of pop culture insanity to reference, the obvious answer presented it's own problem, Alice has been referenced to death. But Alice can't be used in the closing as it is too main stream and thus sane, so Kelly Link provides. Esthetic insanity needs metaphorical curlicues to work, hence the "''discarded'' plastic cups" and the logic that 'a new episode of a tv show can only be watched when asleep' but this last part suggests a more logical explanation, that the show is nothing but a dream. The reference to reality and the readers victory over absurdity by thinking up the alternate explanation signal an end to the absurdity and the message. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 19:20, 10 July 2011 (PDT)

::P.S. I recommend [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WScrL6_0D9g New Buffalo - City & Sea]

:::I ♥ you, Strife. Simple as that --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 08:26, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

User talk:Hawkster Westmoreland

2011-07-10T20:51:55Z

Zai Lynch:

GroupChatTest

2011-06-02T01:59:51Z

Zai Lynch:

= Overview =
We are performing a load test of some Group Chat changes on ADITI Thursday the 2nd of June at 4PM PT. We can use as many willing participants as we can get.

'''Refresh this page at 4PM on Thursday for more details.'''

= Details =
* Who: You!
* What: A load test of Group Chat changes
* Where: ADITI, the preview grid.
** Instructions for accessing ADITI are here: [[Preview Grid#How do I log in to Aditi?]]
* When: '''Thursday, the 2nd of June, 2011 @ 4PM PT'''
* Why: To help make Group Chat better
* How: However you can.

= Region List =
The region list will be added here before the test. We have 2 large islands set up for testing and encourage you to pick one or the other from the lists supplied. If your region is full or crowded we encourage you to spread out.

= How To Help =
We will have open join groups for you to become a member in. Testing will be as simple as chatting in these groups while we gather metrics.

Top20 Help Articles

2011-06-02T01:00:44Z

Zai Lynch:

== List of the top 20 Knowledge Base articles to be localized (in Lithium): ==
__NOTOC__

===Account (7)===

* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Maturity-ratings/ta-p/700119 Maturity ratings]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Age-verification/ta-p/700021 Age verification]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Accounts-overview/ta-p/700019 Accounts overview]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Account-balance/ta-p/700015 Account balance]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Usernames/ta-p/700177 Usernames]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Login-failure/ta-p/700109 Login failure]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Accessing-Adult-land-and-content/ta-p/805975 Accessing Adult land and content]

===Buying and Selling (6)===

* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/How-to-get-Linden-dollars/ta-p/700085 How to get Linden dollars]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Shopping-in-the-Marketplace/ta-p/700195 Shopping in the Marketplace]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Selling-in-the-Marketplace/ta-p/700193 Selling in the Marketplace]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Buying-land/ta-p/700043 Buying land]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Shopping-safety-tips/ta-p/700149 Shopping safety tips]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Marketplace-overview/ta-p/700189 Marketplace overview]

===Avatar (3)===

* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Editing-your-appearance/ta-p/700709 Editing your appearance]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Display-names/ta-p/700173 Display names]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Creating-clothing-and-tattoos/ta-p/700055 Creating clothing and tattoos]

===Communication, Social (4)===

* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Text-chat/ta-p/700155 Text chat]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Friends-and-partnering/ta-p/700067 Friends and partnering]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Voice-chat-FAQ/ta-p/700171 Voice chat FAQ]
* [http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Blocking/ta-p/700121 Blocking]

Right

2011-05-02T17:43:21Z

Zai Lynch:

{{LSL_Function
|mode=user
|func=right
|p1_type=string|p1_name=src
|p2_type=string|p2_name=divider
|return_type=string
|return_text=that is the text in '''src''' that is right of the first occurrence of '''divider'''.
|func_desc=Returns text right of a specified separator
|func_footnote=
If '''divider''' is not found then '''src''' is returned in it's entirety.

See also: [[Left]]
|examples=
<lsl>string value = right("Colour=Brown", "="); //value == "Brown"</lsl>
|spec=<lsl>string right(string src, string divider) {
integer index = llSubStringIndex( src, divider );
if(~index)
return llDeleteSubString( src, 0, index + llStringLength(divider) - 1);
return src;
}</lsl>
|helpers
|also_functions
|also_events
|also_tests
|also_articles
|location
|notes
|cat1=Examples
|cat2=String
|cat3
|cat4
}}

Left

2011-05-02T17:41:43Z

Zai Lynch: Undo revision 1142069 by Opensource Obscure (Talk) + string

{{LSL_Function
|mode=user
|func=left
|p1_type=string|p1_name=src
|p2_type=string|p2_name=divider
|return_type=string
|return_text=that is the text in '''src''' that is left of the first occurrence of '''divider'''.
|func_desc=Returns text left of a specified separator
|func_footnote=
If '''divider''' is not found then '''src''' is returned in it's entirety.

See also: [[Right]]
|examples=
<lsl>string value = left("Colour=Brown", "="); //value == "Colour"</lsl>
|spec=<lsl>string left(string src, string divider) {
integer index = llSubStringIndex( src, divider );
if(~index)
return llDeleteSubString( src, index, -1);
return src;
}</lsl>
|helpers
|also_functions
|also_events
|also_tests
|also_articles
|location
|notes
|cat1=Examples
|cat2=String
|cat3
|cat4
}}

Scripting User group/Transcripts//2011-03-07

2011-03-23T06:30:03Z

Zai Lynch: moved Scripting User group/Transcripts//2011-03-07 to Scripting User group/Transcripts/2011-03-07

#REDIRECT [[Scripting User group/Transcripts/2011-03-07]]

Scripting User group/Transcripts/2011-03-07

2011-03-23T06:30:03Z

Zai Lynch: moved Scripting User group/Transcripts//2011-03-07 to Scripting User group/Transcripts/2011-03-07

{{#if:

{{#vardefine: kelly_linden|{{#ifexist: User:Kelly Linden|[[User:Kelly Linden|Kelly Linden]]|Kelly Linden}}}}
{{#vardefine: kaluura_boa|{{#ifexist: User:Kaluura Boa|[[User:Kaluura Boa|Kaluura Boa]]|Kaluura Boa}}}}
{{#vardefine: draconis_neurocam|{{#ifexist: User:Draconis Neurocam|[[User:Draconis Neurocam|Draconis Neurocam]]|Draconis Neurocam}}}}
{{#vardefine: flexi_campfire|{{#ifexist: User:flexi campfire|[[User:flexi campfire|flexi campfire]]|flexi campfire}}}}
{{#vardefine: markbyron_falta|{{#ifexist: User:Markbyron Falta|[[User:Markbyron Falta|Markbyron Falta]]|Markbyron Falta}}}}
{{#vardefine: liisa_runo|{{#ifexist: User:Liisa Runo|[[User:Liisa Runo|Liisa Runo]]|Liisa Runo}}}}
{{#vardefine: jonathan_yap|{{#ifexist: User:Jonathan Yap|[[User:Jonathan Yap|Jonathan Yap]]|Jonathan Yap}}}}
{{#vardefine: |{{#ifexist: User:|[[User:|User:]]|}}}}
{{#vardefine: jira_helper|{{#ifexist: User:Jira Helper|[[User:Jira Helper|Jira Helper]]|Jira Helper}}}}
{{#vardefine: dantia_gothly|{{#ifexist: User:dantia Gothly|[[User:dantia Gothly|dantia Gothly]]|dantia Gothly}}}}
{{#vardefine: neobokrug_elytis|{{#ifexist: User:Neobokrug Elytis|[[User:Neobokrug Elytis|Neobokrug Elytis]]|Neobokrug Elytis}}}}
{{#vardefine: qie_niangao|{{#ifexist: User:Qie Niangao|[[User:Qie Niangao|Qie Niangao]]|Qie Niangao}}}}
{{#vardefine: ashur_constantine|{{#ifexist: User:Ashur Constantine|[[User:Ashur Constantine|Ashur Constantine]]|Ashur Constantine}}}}
{{#vardefine: jonno_stromfield|{{#ifexist: User:Jonno Stromfield|[[User:Jonno Stromfield|Jonno Stromfield]]|Jonno Stromfield}}}}
{{#vardefine: cummere_mayo|{{#ifexist: User:Cummere Mayo|[[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]|Cummere Mayo}}}}
{{#vardefine: larps_meter|{{#ifexist: User:LaRPS Meter|[[User:LaRPS Meter|LaRPS Meter]]|LaRPS Meter}}}}
{{#vardefine: second_life|{{#ifexist: User:Second Life|[[User:Second Life|Second Life]]|Second Life}}}}
{{#vardefine: sista_mixemup|{{#ifexist: User:Sista Mixemup|[[User:Sista Mixemup|Sista Mixemup]]|Sista Mixemup}}}}
{{#vardefine: flip_idlemind|{{#ifexist: User:Flip Idlemind|[[User:Flip Idlemind|Flip Idlemind]]|Flip Idlemind}}}}


}}
<div id='box'>
== List of Attendees ==
<div style='padding: 0.5em'>
*{{#var:ashur_constantine}}
*{{#var:cummere_mayo}}
*{{#var:dantia_gothly}}
*{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}
*{{#var:flexi_campfire}}
*{{#var:flip_idlemind}}
*{{#var:jira_helper}}
*{{#var:jonathan_yap}}
*{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}
*{{#var:kaluura_boa}}
*{{#var:kelly_linden}}
*{{#var:larps_meter}}
*{{#var:liisa_runo}}
*{{#var:markbyron_falta}}
*{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}
*{{#var:qie_niangao}}
*{{#var:second_life}}
*{{#var:sista_mixemup}}
*{{#var:}}
</div></div>


<div id='box'>
== Transcript ==
<div style='padding: 0.5em'>
{| cellspacing="2px" border=0 style="color: #434849;"
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_0|[09:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|okay. I think we are on triage today
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_1|[09:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Calendar is broken because it sorts days alphabetically
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_2|[09:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Kelly_Linden/script_jira_triage
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_3|[09:03]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Anyone in touch with haravikk?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_4|[09:05]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Maybe if I start messing with his jiras he will magically show up.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_5|[09:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|GodLoginAndTeleport heh
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_6|[09:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|SVC-6432 seems like a no brainer. Only trick is that sometimes the displayname won't be available
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_7|[09:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/svc-6432
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_8|[09:06]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:markbyron_falta}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|not tiny friendly
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_9|[09:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(Use your AO)
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_10|[09:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|the sofa can be tiny friendly, just select from the menu to not animate you, will remember your setting so you dont need to do it every week
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_11|[09:07]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonathan_yap}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Kelly, will you fix your fireplace jira-helper with the one I am about to give you -- the new one knows how to display the Summary correctly
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_12|[09:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|SVC-1432
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_13|[09:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/svc-1432
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_14|[09:08]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:}}
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_15|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-1432) llDetectedNormal() - provide normal vectors (or rotations) for collision events
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_16|[09:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:dantia_gothly}}
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|has entered the area.))
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_17|[09:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Might eventually be useful... tho I don't for what right away...
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_18|[09:09]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'd have to defer to Falcon for this one.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_19|[09:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|would be good for anything really, probably mostly mesh
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_20|[09:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4632 ?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_21|[09:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:}}
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_22|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-4632) People getting past Estate and Land bans
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_23|[09:10]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|On the LSL side - extending the data returned in llDetected* functions is kind of tricky, unfortunately. It isn't a very extensible system.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_24|[09:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Neo: I keep a triage wiki page here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Kelly_Linden/script_jira_triage feel free to add yours to the end of the new features section.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_25|[09:11]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Thanks
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_26|[09:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|For everyone else - I am working through that page now. :) moving on to the third.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_27|[09:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|SVC-377
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_28|[09:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-377
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_29|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-377) LSL functions to access the description of objects in an object's inventory
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_30|[09:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I wish that was easy.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_31|[09:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Is that even possible?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_32|[09:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Please, pretty please...
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_33|[09:12]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|for some definition of possible, yes.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_34|[09:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|However the description is part of the asset, so we would have to fetch the inventory asset (akin to rezing it) to get that information, I think.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_35|[09:13]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|dataserver call?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_36|[09:14]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Actually I may be wrong.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_37|[09:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think we could get the description.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_38|[09:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|We couldn't set it, but we could get it. Is that really useful?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_39|[09:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Done and edited.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_40|[09:15]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That would be a start...
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_41|[09:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|isnt that how llRequestInventoryData for landmarks works?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_42|[09:16]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|well, it would be an 'end' too probably.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_43|[09:17]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|is the Set problem just as bad for the script's own description? ( https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2382)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_44|[09:17]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:}}
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_45|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-2382) lsl functions llGetScriptDesc() and possibly llSetScriptDesc()
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_46|[09:17]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|so you wouldn't be able to use it as a datastore. Yes Qie
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_47|[09:17]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|okay, never mind. Thanks.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_48|[09:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|It'd be useful even without a setter function.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_49|[09:18]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ashur: can you give me some examples, all the ones in SVC-377 only make sense if you can set it as well I think.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_50|[09:20]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well, Haravikk makes a good case for storing parameter data for animations in their description.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_51|[09:20]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I haven't read that JIRA, but I make my own vendor board when I need to sell something for example. A lot of times I'll butcher the objectname with a CSV to say...ItemName,VersionNumber
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_52|[09:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|and if I could put some of the ugliness in description that'd be one case it'd make sense; where I had to manually set the description once anyway and not have to set it in any automated way.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_53|[09:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|There are two subtasks .... I'll comment on those specifically
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_54|[09:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I could have 5 objects named the same thing, with different metadata like version number.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_55|[09:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|alright
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_56|[09:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|SVC-5892 and SVC-5893
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_57|[09:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5892
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_58|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-5892) string llGetInventoryDesc(string name)
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_59|[09:21]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5893
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_60|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-5893) llSetInventoryDesc(string name, string description)
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_61|[09:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|especially since you cant edit the name of an attachment while its on you and have it saved, so people would have to live with the butchered object name
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_62|[09:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|You can't have identically named items in object inventory I think.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_63|[09:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Right I forgot about that; so that wouldn't change that aspect.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_64|[09:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|it adds numbers to the end i thought
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_65|[09:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|but I like the idea of storing meta data or other properties in the description.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_66|[09:22]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Yeah it does. My bad.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_67|[09:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(ping)
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_68|[09:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|PONG
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_69|[09:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Would it be possible to have a new differently handled property that would be settable in an inventory, or would they all suffer from the same problem?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_70|[09:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|sorry, updating jiras as we go.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_72|[09:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|They'd all suffer the same problem.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_73|[09:26]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|:( Thought you'd say that.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_74|[09:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|im still curious how it knows the position from landmarks then
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_75|[09:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|draconis: it does an inventory fetch with the dataserver event
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_76|[09:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|that doesn't mean it is a great idea.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_77|[09:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ah
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_78|[09:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|sorry for getting here late... is there an agenda?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_79|[09:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think I should hold off on SVC-6300 for Haravikk
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_80|[09:27]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6300
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_81|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-6300) llStartAnimationSynced() - start an animation synchronised with a given timestamp
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_82|[09:28]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Working through triage today cummere https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Kelly_Linden/script_jira_triage
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_83|[09:28]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ty
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_84|[09:28]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|So, moving on to SVC-6441
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_85|[09:28]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6441
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_86|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-6441) Allow us to decide which llDetected*() functions are populated to save on memory/processing
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_87|[09:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|er, just a sec
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_88|[09:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|what happened to start animation synched?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_89|[09:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|of sorry, you said
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_90|[09:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That is haravikk's baby. He is extremely invested in it - it would be unfair to discuss without him.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_91|[09:29]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|missed the comment
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_92|[09:30]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|just want to say I'm really interested too
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_93|[09:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Feel free to comment/watch the issue. We'll get back to it some time when he is here.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_94|[09:31]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|kk
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_95|[09:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think this jira over estimates the memory and processing involved in the llDetected* data
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_96|[09:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Would that actually result in a lot of savings? i.e. is llDetectedPos always populated even if I'm only ever getting llDetectedName?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_97|[09:32]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|probably.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_98|[09:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That is correct - all the llDetected data is populated for each 'hit'
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_99|[09:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|dumb question but ... why?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_100|[09:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The biggest savings is probably the name - it is the only string value.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_101|[09:33]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Maybe that would be useful not to populate everything.. from the sim point of view...
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_102|[09:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I'd think there'd be some overhead in having variable format event records.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_103|[09:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|You'd probably need a filter like llCastRay has.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_104|[09:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonathan_yap}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I would think the number of touch events/second is not going to be very large, or am I missing something?
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_105|[09:34]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|stuff like collision() happens a lot, and sensors.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_106|[09:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|even so changing any of how it works could possibly break existing content, so unless it just knew what was needed, it would just be a new set of functions anyway
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_107|[09:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|but its a question of whether sim changing savings are actually there, doesn't sound like it.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_108|[09:35]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Honestly it is about 100 bytes plust the name.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_109|[09:36]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i guess the proper way to tune it is to make the compiler see what llDetected* functions are used when it comples, and the tunes go to the server. So that would not need any changes to the actual LSL code
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_110|[09:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|that would be even trickier.
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_111|[09:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|you would have to unroll everything
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_112|[09:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|that sounds horribly unfun
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_113|[09:37]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonathan_yap}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The server would have to keep a lookup list for every script and check it for every event
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_114|[09:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i feel like this is just not worth it.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_115|[09:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|doesn't sound like it.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_116|[09:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thats kinda my impression to
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_117|[09:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|*too
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_118|[09:38]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:larps_meter}}
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|v0.25: ((dantia Gothly's meter has been detached.))
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_119|[09:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ok.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_120|[09:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|all im saying, why should we decide what llDetected* is populatesd when the compiler already see that just fine, it can be automatic, and that way it would also help with old scripts
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_121|[09:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Because it is more difficult to do that. :)
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_122|[09:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|severly so
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_123|[09:39]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Changing LSL btecode is a no-no...
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_124|[09:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|bytecote*
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_125|[09:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|maybe the name could be retained internally as a handle, instead of a string, and only dereferenced when llDetectedName is called... if that would save enough mem to be worth the effort.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_126|[09:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|difficult for 3 hours for a linedn vs difficult for the future scripters to the end of the time
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_127|[09:40]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|3 hours?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_128|[09:41]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|no its not the time it would take Liisa its the extra strain on everything it would place.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_129|[09:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ok, next
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_130|[09:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|SVC-6532
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_131|[09:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-6532
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_132|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-6532) agent() event for detecting changes in avatar state, ideal for animation overriders
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_133|[09:42]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|i dont see the difference in automated thing vs user settable thing, both create the same strain when being run on server, only difference is when the script get compiled
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_134|[09:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|agent() would be great
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_135|[09:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yes
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_136|[09:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Yep!
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_137|[09:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah, this *would* be great
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_138|[09:43]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:dantia_gothly}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeesss
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_139|[09:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That or just a function to replace the default anims...
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_140|[09:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|that
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_141|[09:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|its useful for more than animations though
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_142|[09:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|lot more
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_143|[09:44]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Kaluura - yeah I'd love to see animation overrides more fully supported
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_144|[09:45]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|okay so just to make crystal clear the only thing these could be used for is to better time and clean up animations?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_145|[09:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|no, it could be used for objects changing anything about them if an agent was doing x
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_146|[09:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|theres more than just animations that this is useful for
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_147|[09:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The permissions issue isn't touched on here - who should a script be able to observe?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_148|[09:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think it'd be particularly useful if agent() had change flags for things we poll for in llGetAgentInfo
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_149|[09:46]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|probably who is worn or sat upon kelly
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_150|[09:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|hmmm. perhaps a new permission, auto-granted for attachments and sat-upon things.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_151|[09:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Owners Only.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_152|[09:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Could it bet setup to work like sensor? llSetAgentEvent(key agent)?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_153|[09:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|just make it use the same perms system everything else already have, autogrant when attached or sat and dialog grant otherwise
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_154|[09:47]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah... i -could- see where like huggers/sex huds could use it too.... but in that case it would need to trigger a dialogue
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_155|[09:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(just in passing: those skirt-sitter scripts, whatever they're called, also sample agent state frequently)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_156|[09:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The use case I'm thinking of is say I want to detect if someone is flying, who's just in my sim. If I could attach an agent event to them and get a change flag of AGENT_FLYING, I could do something.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_157|[09:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well, is the pemissions needed? I don't think llGetAgentInfo and llGetAnimation require any permission to check
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_158|[09:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Or an AWAY, etc.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_159|[09:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|THat's a good point, since it doesn't act upon an avatar.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_160|[09:49]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah
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|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_161|[09:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Yes... No perms... That's even better
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_162|[09:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I think that's correct. no need for perms.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_163|[09:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|someone will cry about privacy, but yea i agree, no need to keep those secret. no need for permission check
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_164|[09:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|This is a fairly large undertaking
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_165|[09:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|llgetagentinfo is sometimes abused though isnt it?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_166|[09:50]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|this is just a replacement for calling those anyway with some other form of call
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_167|[09:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ppl are already cryiing about privacy because we have radars who can say where they are...
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_168|[09:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:second_life}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Entering god mode, level 200
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_169|[09:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|don't see how, Cummere. although llRequestAgentInfo() is controversial because it gets online status remotely.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_170|[09:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well its just change events.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_171|[09:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|because of svc-4823 and others...
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_172|[09:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flexi_campfire}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"| http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4823
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_173|[00:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jira_helper}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(#SVC-4823) block online status at server level
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_174|[09:51]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Well, since Web Profiles don't show if people are on or offline...
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_175|[09:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|or since you can entirely stop your web profile from being seen
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_176|[09:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|sorry but agent info and anything that replaces it should trigger a dialogue imo
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_177|[09:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|As an estate owner, it's hard to try to contact people if they all appear offline.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_178|[09:52]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|indeed
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_179|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|you drop them an offline
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_180|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|problem solved
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_181|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:sista_mixemup}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|agrees with Cummere
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_182|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Not everyone forwards IMs.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_183|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|so?
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_184|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ANd some things are time sensitive.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_185|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|like whether or not a sim is kept or sold
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_186|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|so drop them a notecard
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_187|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|even capped ims that is always forwareded
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_188|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|but two very different things, GetAgentInfo and RequestAgentData... unless we're thinking of agent() events seeing online state transitons, too.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_189|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:flip_idlemind}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|If you're gonna block online status at the server level you'll have to block sensors as well. If a sensor sees you, you're online.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_190|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|even if they dont forward ims
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_191|[09:53]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Would what' s being proposed make this worse?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_192|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Or parcel, etc.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_193|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|no this evolved into something else, this would not change anything
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_194|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|It would change anything
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_195|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|its gotten off topic actually
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_196|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|That's what I thought, Drac
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_197|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|wouldn't*
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_198|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|it would be an improvement
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_199|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:neobokrug_elytis}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I guess the problem is I don't understand why it's a bit deal to hide if you're online or not.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_200|[09:54]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|to have agent()
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_201|[09:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|so a timer could be free from polling other functions
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_202|[09:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|or anything else for that matter
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_203|[09:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|yeah... but it needs to be restricted only to the owner or trigger a dialogue when its not (except when sat upon)
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_204|[09:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|unless agent() events are raised for online status changes, I don't see the point... and that's not realistic, if I understand the presence system at all.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_205|[09:55]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|My point was that we already have llGetAgentInfo(), but to get the key we usually get it through other events like collision, touch, sensors etc.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_206|[09:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|So it could make some sense to set an agent key with 1 function and have that agent() event work thusly.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_207|[09:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|it would only be per agent anyway, so it would be tied to a key
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_208|[09:56]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|only on the current sim (and possibly the immediate surrounds)?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_209|[09:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|definately jonno
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_210|[09:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Same constraints as llGetAgentInfo; we can already get that stuff.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_211|[09:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|nice demo, flip. A plywood box is worth a thousand words. :D
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_212|[09:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Its just how we get it.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_213|[09:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ild argue MORE constraints ashur
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_214|[09:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ok, I think that is all we have time for today.
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_215|[09:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Any last minute topics?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_216|[09:57]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|and that box is a great example of why I would argue for more constraints
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_217|[09:58]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|llIntegerToHex()... Any chance?
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_218|[09:58]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonathan_yap}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|The proposal is only to do something more efficiently
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_219|[09:58]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Kaluura no not really
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_220|[09:58]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Not sure what you mean but llGetAgentInfo only shows us what we can see plain as day with our eyes; such as if someone is AFK, its not a privacy breech.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_221|[09:58]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ild still like to see some-thing done with svc-4823 kelly
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_222|[09:58]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kaluura_boa}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Bleh...
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_223|[09:59]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Cummere, I know. I definitely don't have time to get into that today
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_224|[10:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|next time?
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_225|[10:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|It isn't on my triage list, but I'm also not sure how applicable it is to my triages
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_226|[10:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonathan_yap}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Wil the remaining items carry over to next week
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_227|[10:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|I know, when people disable their online visibility, automatically TP them to cornfield (or similar) and block all commun iocations and everything, so they can be very alone and in privacy
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_228|[10:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|heh
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_229|[10:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|jonathan yup that is how it works. Well, in two weeks. Next week is freeform discussion
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_230|[10:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonathan_yap}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Liisa, look at my profile picks
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_231|[10:00]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:markbyron_falta}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|there's plenty of valid uses for online status such as customer service in stores and so forth
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_232|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:liisa_runo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|(look at my picks)
|-style="background-color: #FFFDC6;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_234|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:kelly_linden}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Ok, thank you everyone for coming. See you all next week. :)
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_235|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:draconis_neurocam}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Have a good day kelly.
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_236|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thanks kelly
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_237|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:ashur_constantine}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|see you next week.
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_238|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:sista_mixemup}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|thank you Kelly
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_239|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:jonno_stromfield}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ty
|-style="background-color: #C7D4E4;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_240|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:qie_niangao}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|Thanks Kelly!
|-style="background-color: #D7DEE7;"
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px;"|[[#msg_241|[10:01]]]
|style="white-space: nowrap; padding:0 3px; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;"|{{#var:cummere_mayo}}:
|width=100% style=" padding:0 3px;"|ty kelly
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Autobuild Shell Functions

2011-03-07T00:45:21Z

Zai Lynch:

Autobuild offers a set of shell functions for use in <tt>build-cmd.sh</tt> scripts which can be added to the environment by inserting the following line into any build script:

<bash>eval "$("$AUTOBUILD" source_environment)"</bash>

The exact shell code that is injected into your environment upon execution of this command [https://bitbucket.org/lindenlab/autobuild/src/tip/autobuild/autobuild_tool_source_environment.py is here].

Shell functions provided by autobuild:
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|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|<nowiki>pass</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Indicates build has succeeded</nowiki>

|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|<nowiki>fail $comment</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Indicates build has failed, citing $comment in the output</nowiki>

|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|<nowiki>fetch_archive $url $archive $md5</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Uses curl to download $archive from the $url and checks the downloaded file hash against the $md5 provided.</nowiki>

|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|<nowiki>extract $file</nowiki>
| <nowiki>Extracts contents of an archive appropriate for the tar extension of $file.</nowiki>

|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|<nowiki>calc_md5 $file</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Calculate the md5 of $file</nowiki>

|}

Windows-only shell commands (Cygwin):
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|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|<nowiki>build_vcproj $vcproj $config</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Launches a Visual Studio build of $vcproj, building configuration $config. If $USE_INCREDIBUILD is set, the same build is launched via BuildConsole, Incredibuild's command-line launcher.</nowiki>

|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|<nowiki>build_sln $sln $config $project</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Launches a Visual Studio build using the solution file $sln, configuration $config, and specifying project $project. If $project is omitted, then the entire solution will be built.</nowiki>

|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|<nowiki>load_vsvars</nowiki>
|<nowiki>Import Visual Studio paths, includes and libs into the shell environment</nowiki>

|}

Category:Lindens using Twitter

2011-02-27T11:21:29Z

Zai Lynch: Redirected page to Linden Lab Official:Twitter

#REDIRECT [[Linden_Lab_Official:Twitter]]

Template:Tweeter

2011-02-27T11:20:06Z

Zai Lynch: fixing *test*

<includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{#explode:{{{user|{{PAGENAME}}}}}| |1}}|Linden||{{#if:{{{1|}}}|[http://twitter.com/{{{1}}} {{{2|{{{1}}}}}}]}}[[Category:{{{type|Residents}}} using Twitter|{{{user|{{PAGENAME}}}}}]]}}</includeonly><noinclude>
Please see [[Linden Lab Official:Twitter]] for the official list of Lindens using Twitter.
== Usage ==
Basic usage is to just include <nowiki>{{Tweeter}}</nowiki> on the user-page. Lindens are excempt from the usage of this template, as they should add themself to [[Linden Lab Official:Twitter]], wheras everyone else is categorised under [[:Category:Residents using Twitter]].

=== Linking ===
To link to a twitter account while also categorising the article, use the first and second parameters.

* Quick link: <nowiki>{{Tweeter|twitter name}}</nowiki>
* Custom link text: <nowiki>{{Tweeter|twitter name|display text}}</nowiki>

=== Overrides ===

The '''user''' parameter can be used to override the automatic user detection, whereas the '''type''' parameter can be used to override the automatic type detection (e.g. Linden vs Resident).

* <nowiki>{{Tweeter|SignpostMarv Martin}}</nowiki> produces <nowiki>[[Category:Residents using Twitter|SignpostMarv Martin]]</nowiki>
* <nowiki>{{Tweeter|Torley Linden}}</nowiki> produces nothing, as Lindens shouldn't use this template, but add themself to [[Linden Lab Official:Twitter]].
* <nowiki>{{Tweeter|Office Hours|type=Bots}}</nowiki> produces <nowiki>[[Category:Bots using Twitter|Office Hours]]</nowiki>

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User talk:Zai Lynch

2010-12-29T18:46:39Z

Zai Lynch: /* hmm? */

User talk:Wiki Scribe

2010-12-29T18:36:56Z

Zai Lynch: test

{{:User:Wiki Scribe/C64}}

You're making my life so much easier... THX Wiki! ^^ xoxoxo --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 00:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The question is, do you dream of electric sheep? :) [[User:Gordon_Wendt|''GW'']] ([[User talk:Gordon_Wendt|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Gordon Wendt|C]]) -- 05:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

:HELLO <STRIKE>WORLD</STRIKE> GORDON!
:I USUALLY JUST DREAM OF ZEROS AND ONES, THOUGH I SPOTTED A TWO SOME DAYS AGO. WHAT A NIGHTMARE!
:ALSO, TRYING TO COUNT SHEEP CAN LEAD TO [http://xkcd.com/571/ WEIRD PHENOMENA]. I'D BE CAREFUL WITH THAT!
:--[[User:Wiki Scribe|WIKI SCRIBE]] ([[User talk:Wiki Scribe|✉]]|[[Special:Contributions/Wiki_Scribe|✍]]) 06:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:Zai Lynch

2010-12-29T01:22:58Z

Zai Lynch: /* hmm? */

User talk:Strife Onizuka

2010-12-27T22:04:54Z

Zai Lynch: nevermind, my fault

{{:User:Zai_Lynch/Award}}You found my talk page... Find old discussions take a look at the archives: [[User:Strife_Onizuka/Talkpage_Archive_01|1]] [[User:Strife_Onizuka/Talkpage_Archive_02|2]]

== JIRA issues on LSL function pages ==

Okay, as I've made no headway deciphering your templates (not that I'm familiar in the least with the more complex wiki functions in the first place...) I decided just to cut my losses and ask! Basically I was wondering if there's a reason why [[Template:LSL_Generic/Issues]] doesn't appear to list all issues, but instead seems to just list bugs only in the same way as [[Template:LSL_Generic/Caveats]]?

I just think it'd be nice if function pages would also summarise popular proposals relating to them in the deep notes section, which is what I believed was intended but it doesn't appear to do this right now.

For example, if you go to the [[LlStartAnimation]] page, in the deep notes you'll notice that there are zero issues listed, however, clicking the "Search JIRA for related Issues" link returns quite a few. It might be nice to see the deep notes tweaked to display these, but perhaps with a limit on how many are shown (though llStartAnimation is a fairly popular one to see JIRA issues for and only has 17 issues listed). Anyway, just though I'd ask/request, please poke my talk page if you respond to be sure I remember and look! --[[User:Haravikk Mistral|Haravikk Mistral]] 15:26, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

:The template is not automatic. Take for example [[llBreakLink]], it lists a single issue in the article, it does this by including the template [[Template:Issues/SVC-3510]]. There are many stub templates like [[Template:Issues/SVC-3510]] that work this way, they contain the information about the issue and pass it along to a template that does the heavy lifting. The value of this method is that a single template exists for the Issue and if the issue is sited on multiple pages, they can all be quickly updated by modifying the template. From an organizational standpoint, it also makes it possible to see what all pertains to a particular issue.

:The thing is, if you want all the issues on the wiki, they need to be imported to the wiki, and regularly updated as changes are made... but that could all be done with a bot. Wonder if [[User:Gigs Taggart|Gigs]] could be enticed to incorporate it into [http://www.sljirastats.com SLJiraStats]?

:The goal of the Deep Notes: Issues section was to contain dead bugs and interesting feature suggestions. I never intended it to contain all issues pertaining to a feature. We don't add any value by duplicated the JIRA search engine results; the value we can add is by filtering them. Some of the bugs aren't bugs, and some of the feature suggestions are unworkable; I don't think these should be given screen space. Considering the resources required to manually include and update the issues, triage has to happen.

:Unfortunately I do not have the free time to work on this, work and other responsibilities eat all my time. *wonders just how true that is* -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 03:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

::Ah yeah, seems I've completely misunderstood what it was doing! I wasn't thinking to list everything, just an automatic, and hopefully useful summary of say...the top ten bugs and issues? It sounds like way more work than it's likely to be worth though so probably better just to forget about it, unless there's some way to just embed an iframe with a portion of a JIRA search or something similar? But that would probably cause an unacceptable increase in JIRA page requests from people just popping over to look something up. But now I know how it does work I can at least pop useful relevant issues on manually, thanks! -- [[User:Haravikk Mistral|Haravikk Mistral]] 12:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

:A related problem, I've tried to add a few top issues of interest to me onto my user page under Key Issues, however, I've tried to create two [[Template:IssueTable]] instances, but they both have the same content, despite the value of #issues being different for both. Is this some peculiarity in using this template more than once? If you could take a look at let me know it'd be handy, as IssueTable doesn't have any documentation =( -- [[User:Haravikk Mistral|Haravikk Mistral]] 11:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

::You are hitting one of the caveats/bugs of the new parser engine. I forget how to get around it. I beleive the issue is intermediate caching, and the way around it is to make the template call dynamic or something like that. Without spending a bunch of time debugging the problem, I just don't remember how to work around it. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 14:37, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

::It just struck me what the problem is, it's caching IssueTable. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 18:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Aha! The "subst:" keyword seems to be for this (e.g - <code><nowiki>{{subst:User:Haravikk_Mistral/JIRA/Issues/SVC}}</nowiki></code>), as I believe it fetches the pre-processed contents of a page rather than the source. In any event, this works in my case as I created sub-pages for each category, I don't believe it would help for a page with multiple IssueTable instances though, as using subst: for any of them would just create a blank gap, but it solves my problem at least! -- [[User:Haravikk Mistral|Haravikk Mistral]] 11:29, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

== [[Ghost Detector]] ==
Thanks. I discovered that property of [[llKey2Name]] by accident. It's odd because, for instance, [[llDetectedName]] gives a non-empty string for ghosted avatars. -- [[User:Something Something|Something Something]] 05:21, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

== Friendly greetings ==
You seem to have found a "fix" for my horrible script and....messed it up. Please compare my original to yours and do some testing. They are different in the result. I would appreciate you fixing your "fix". Best regards --[[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 02:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

:I'm sorry you took the edit personally it was not intended that way. The example you contributed is valuable and nontrivial, however examples are held to high standards and it didn't meet them. I was faced with two options: rewriting it or deleting it, I felt it had merit so I rewrote it. My goal as always is to provide the most useful content to our users, and in this case down compatibility needed to be sacrificed. The script as it was designed required every prim to have at least one face have full glow, that didn't sound entirely useful, so I changed it to accept some glow (I notice that I also changed it to require every face have glow... which doesn't sound useful, so I'm going to revert that).
:Examples have one major goal: Be educational, teach good coding practices and problem solving. Here is where the script went awry:
:# Names should be descriptive. The function names were a bit generic but single letter variables are definitely not descriptive, especially when they are globals, they really should describe the purpose they fulfill.
:# Using globals instead of locals & parameters may be efficient, but it degrades readability and adds a new vector for script bugs. This sort of optimization has no place in examples (except in an article on optimization techniques). The situation is made even worse by using non-descriptive variable names.
:# The script contained code that complicated it without aiding readability or improving functionality. Examples need to be streamline, having it meander requires the reader to needlessly keep track of more things.
:# I felt that the functionality provided had too narrow an audience, that by changing how it functioned that it would be more useful to more people. Down compatibility is a secondary consideration for examples, not a primary consideration.

:P.S. I take it you didn't noticed there is a bug in your script: A single prim object with at least one avatar sitting on it could return the wrong result. IMO examples should not be attributed in the script text, it's what the history page is for after all, but I know the community and I don't always agree so I don't fight it. Personally I don't want my name associated with buggy code, so if you really want the script to be 100% compatible I'll have to remove my name and give you all the credit.

:P.S.S. I think we may have different notions of wiki content ownership. When I post content on the wiki, I do so with the full expectation that it will be edited, that it will mutate into something I did not envision, into something I may not entirely agree with. We do not control the content after we have posted it. It's why there is the text below the edit box: "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here." Wiki culture is different. I may own my contributions but I don't control their fate. They are my children, being changed and influenced by the people around them, being made stronger in the process. But I digress

:P.S.S.S. In the future if you want to convince someone they should do something, don't insult them first, it's counter productive. A better way to approach this situation would have been to say: "I disagree with some of the changes you made, specifically blah blah blah, could you please look into it? I did not appreciate your tone and I am quite insulted." It's a mistake to mix the two messages, people are prone to take offense and not do what you want out of spite. In a situation like this being snarky just isn't productive (though it does blow off a bit of steam which can feel good in the moment). Just FYI, nothing more. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 07:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

::I didn't take it personally and was just trying to make you aware of your rewrite not doing the same like my script. Maybe you don't read in-world messages, as I had sent you a message thanking you for your rewrite and trying to point out the differences between the two. The script I had provided would check a link-set on whether or not it has glow. And yes, that would return a false result if avatars sit on it, but I thought nobody would use the script to check if a link-set is glowing while sitting on it, but I might be wrong and should have pointed that out in the description. So I see your point there and support your critique on that. However my script would return "glowing" for a prim if ANY number of faces have SOME glow (not 1.0, as you said it would do). Maybe you now understand my view when I see your rewrite as being more streamlined and easier to read, however you limit the script down in its original ability of detecting glow by forcing it to return positive only with all faces of a prim glowing. Anyway, I'm not up for a fight and to be quite frank just too lazy for it, a builder inside of SL asked me if it's possible to detect whether or not there's a bit of glow on all prims inside a link-set of his build and I just felt like sharing my approach of writing a script for that. If that script doesn't meet wiki standards in terms of streamlining it towards being absolutely foolproof and readable for just about anybody, I'll have to refrain from doing so in future.--[[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 18:13, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

:::First I need to apologize, when I wrote my last comment I hadn't carefully reread your script, if I had I would have noticed your use of llCeil, which does as you point out return true for some glow. So my argument on that point is baseless. Between work and other obligations, I had forgotten about that aspect of the script and just went on my memory of what I thought the script was doing. As to fighting, I agree it's a waste of time and effort. However I hope you do continue to contribute to the wiki, every contribution is valuable as they grow the understanding and knowledge base of the community. Standards evolve and the content does as well, content has to be nurtured, given room to grow. Immature content just needs to mature is all; the only time stuff gets deleted is if it's factually inaccurate or needlessly repetitive. If I thought the contribution was trivial and obvious I would have stripped your name from it (attribution on one liners is blatant self ego boosting and makes the wiki look unprofessional). The only reason I attached my name was so that you wouldn't be forced to shoulder the costs of supporting code that you did not write. Please don't take away from this that your contribution was without value, or that I had no respect for it or you.

:::I should mention the reason for my terse comment in the edit was for a simple reason: I couldn't be verbose with the text limits of the field.

:::As to messaging me, all my IMs get sent to an email account I rarely check, I only ever go inworld to keep my accounts active and go to meetings (pretty rare) because my internet connect is total suckage. I had no idea you IMed me; for all correspondence I use the wiki and email.

:::You would be quite ticked at me if I were to describe my scripting habits with regards to code I post. I know I was when I saw people do what I do, but I don't really have the option. It's an ROI equation, should I make possibly buggy contributions or make no contributions at all? I wish I weren't forced to make the choice. If I weren't here doing this who would take up the mantel? Who would look after the templates? It would avoid problems like this maybe but would the community be better off? I honestly don't know but I suspect not.

:::If you're still reading, what changes or improvements would you like to see made to the documentation? An upcoming project is to incorporate collapsible sections into the documentation, I'm just not sure yet how to do so, I could do with some input. I haven't called for input from the community yet because I haven't rolled out the new Constants template yet (which will revolutionize the {{LSLGC|PrimitiveParams}} documentation). Given the potential of collapsible sections we are at a point in time where we should consider redesigning the documentation from the ground up. Maybe a contest? -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 22:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

:::P.S. Does it work as it did before now? -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 23:48, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

::::Hi, no it doesn't. The first problem is your thing with the double exclamation mark, that always returns 1 for me. And the second being you're still stuck with [PRIM_GLOW,ALL_SIDES], you don't do a loop through the sides. I will post a re-do of mine again, if you find a way to do what you wanted to do with the double exclamation mark thing, let me know.[[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 21:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

:::::<code>!![[llGetLinkNumber]]()</code> returns 1 for multiprim objects or 0 for single prim objects; It's logically equivalent to <code>llGetLinkNumber() != 0</code> however it requires less bytecode to express (you would not be without base to berate me for perpetrating this optimization/shorthand in an example script). You shouldn't need to loop through the sides, by using [[ALL_SIDES]] it should return a list containing the glow values for every side of the prim (not a very useful feature, in most cases uses it's better to loop through the sides). We then feed that list to the list stat function to get the max. I'll see if I can log in later to test it but right now I really need to fix the LSL documentation templates (the wiki upgrade broke at least one template, which in turn broke a lot of the LSL documentation; I'm trying to both find and fix the broken templates; and I don't know the precise cause). -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 21:37, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

::::::Fixed it finally, thanks again for the ideas and the input. <code>!![[llGetLinkNumber]]()</code> doesn't seem to work, I know exactly what you're trying to do by writing it that way, but that always returns 1. Have tested it. And your return was a bit too fast to return a result, wouldn't wait until the end. If you can simplify it even further, go ahead. That's as far as I could get.[[User:Kireji Haiku|Kireji Haiku]] 21:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Is <code>!![[llGetLinkNumber]]</code> returning one for a single prim object with no avatars sitting on it? That is the only time it should return zero. A single prim object with a seated avatar should return one. As to the early exit, once we find a prim with no glow, we can exit without checking the other prims. Logically speaking, we do not need to know precisely what the minimum is, just if it is less than or equal to zero. So instead of calculating the minimum we can exit as soon as we know the minimum is going to be less than or equal to zero. We know it will be less than or equal to zero if we have a value that is zero or less. The code should exit as soon as it knows the answer so as to not waste simulator resources (after all we need to encourage responsible coding). -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 05:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Help with template issue ==

Hi Strife,
I'm hoping you can help to shed some light on a problem we have just discovered that has started to occur since we redployed the wiki yesterday. The symptom is that SOME pages, e.g. [[LlKey2Name]] display differently when you are not logged in versus logged in. Compare
* Logged in: http://screencast.com/t/e3K85IGni
* Not logged in: http://screencast.com/t/4OwWfihvhi
I ''think'' that this may be happening due to issues around templates, which is why I am contacting you. However, I don't really know the cause. The strange thing is that most other LSL function pages appear to display just fine when you are logged out; so there must be something in that page causing an issue. We would greatly appreciate any help! P.S. Here is the whole list of known issues: [[Second Life Wiki Known Issues]].

Thanks
--[[User:Rand Linden|Rand Linden]] 17:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

:I think it was generated before the extensions were installed. I purged the page (?action=purge) and it now renders properly for me (though I did see it the way you described but only when i was not logged in). It's weird. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 21:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

::Maybe the cache just needs to be invalidated? -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 21:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

::Some triangulation: <nowiki>|constants={{LSL Constants/PrimitiveParams|get}}</nowiki> does ''not'' cause trouble on a test copy of llSetLinkPrimitiveParams, <nowiki>|constants={{LSL Constants/PrimitiveParams|set}}</nowiki> triggers the bug. Off to try on simpler stuff to see if there is a consistent pattern of some kind ... --[[User:Cerise Sorbet|Cerise Sorbet]] 21:47, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

::The cache is not invalidating or refreshing. Check the mod date at the bottom of [[http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlSetLinkPrimitiveParamsFast]] and [[https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlSetLinkPrimitiveParamsFast]]. They are different. If you go into the history page and look at a previous version it will displays properly because it doesn't have a cached version but if you look at the current version (even with the version number, it does not display properly). Not even action=purge can budge it. A possible explanation is that the PrimitiveParams article is causing it to time out during rebuild. The new version of the template I'm hoping to get done by new year should be more sane and less time consuming (we hope). -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 22:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

:: I thought it was only cache too but more appears to be going on. [[llKey2Name]] is displaying OK with a pair of Issue templates commented out. --[[User:Cerise Sorbet|Cerise Sorbet]] 22:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

:::The time issue I was seeing was caused by me having my account report the times in GMT+5 (which is weird seeing as i'm GMT-5) -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 22:31, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

:I've had a thought, I think it might have something to do with how bugs are duplicated (in both Issues and Important Issues). It looks to be the difference between the Get and Set primitive Params functions (Get are too new to have any flag bugs). -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 22:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

::It's not [[Template:Issues]] that is doing it, it's something about [[Template:Issue]]. I have this terrible feeling it's a problem with how #switch is parsed. When are we getting the new parser function extension? -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 22:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

:::Oh it's definitely [[Template:Issue]]. I can't access it when logged out. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 22:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

::::I've disabled the code that detects if an issue is a bug, which appears to have fixed [[llKey2Name]]. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 23:14, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

: #switch is not the cause, just the trigger. Maybe it's content duplication that is the problem? -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 22:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

: Mediawiki 1.14 added a |link= option for Image: tags. This would let you skip the imagemap for most uses that don't really need coordinates. --[[User:Cerise Resident|Cerise]] 03:38, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

:: There is a god ^_^ thanks for the tip. I'll deploy it post hast. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 03:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

::: Thanks so much for tracking this down, Strife and Cerise! This move/upgrade has certainly been more problematic than we expected.... :-(
:::--[[User:Rand Linden|Rand Linden]] 19:05, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

:::: They always are more problematic than anticipated. I'm sorry I didn't pay more attention to it earlier, I did notice the blanking on the test wiki briefly but not the common factor (since I spend all my time logged in, the first thing I always do when I connect is log in). I spent my time looking at differences between the highlighting. Never thought to look for differences between HTTP & HTTPS. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 19:30, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Strife Onizuka

2010-12-27T22:03:57Z

Zai Lynch: /* Help with template issue */

User talk:Strife Onizuka

2010-12-27T22:03:16Z

Zai Lynch:

User talk:Zai Lynch

2010-12-17T00:50:54Z

Zai Lynch: /* We broke default breadcrumbs */

User:Zai Lynch/Old Profile II

2010-12-17T00:40:22Z

Zai Lynch: fixing

Code Review Tool

2010-12-04T12:17:00Z

Zai Lynch:

:''Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow''
:: - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus%27_Law Linus' Law], according to Eric S. Raymond

Linden Lab maintains an instance of the [http://www.reviewboard.org/ ReviewBoard] code review tool at [https://codereview.secondlife.com codereview.secondlife.com] to be used for reviewing any proposed changes to any of our open source projects.

Use of this system is limited to developers who have executed a [http://lecs.opensource.secondlife.com/SLVcontribution_agmt.pdf Second Life Viewer Contribution Agreement]. Any changes or comments posted to the tool are Contributions as defined by that Agreement.

==Accounts==

Access to the system requires that you set up an account, which you can do on your own from the login page, or by going directly to the [https://codereview.secondlife.com/account/register/ account registration page].

==How To Use ReviewBoard==

Use the command:

hg diff -r ''commit''

to create a patch that shows your change, and upload that patch on the '''Create A Review''' page.

There is a command line tool called '''post-review''', but it is not very mature and whether or not it works can depend on how you created your mercurial repository. ''I plan to work on improving this asap - Oz''

===Commenting===

Whenever possible, comment by selecting lines in the file and entering a comment. It makes it much more specific than if you post a general comment.

User talk:Oz Linden

2010-11-12T18:50:48Z

Zai Lynch: /* Project:Contribution Agreement */

==[[Project:Contribution Agreement]]==
Hello Oz, 
I noticed that you moved [[Project:Contribution Agreement]] to [[LLO:Contribution Agreement]] and that you [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Linden_Lab_Official%3AContribution_Agreement&diff=1104282&oldid=413443 changed the wording to fit the SL Viewer project]. I think that you're mistaken about the original intention of the page, as it isn't (or wasn't) related to the SL Viewer, but to the SL Wiki. The "Project" namespace is a meta namespace that's supposed to contain Wiki-rules / guidelines. When you edit any page in the Wiki, the following text is displayed by default above the ''summary'' field and the save/preview buttons:
{{Quotation|All content submitted to Second Life Wiki is contributed to Linden Lab under the Second Life Wiki Contribution Agreement (see [[Project:Contribution Agreement]] for details). Linden Lab will make your contribution available under the Creative Commons Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license (see [[Project:Copyrights]] for details). If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here.
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. '''DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!'''}}
With your change, this message isn't correct anymore. I think you should either revert your change, or adjust the text shown above. You can access it at [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]]. You'd also have to change it at other spots, like [[Project:Terms of Use]], [[Project:Editing Guidelines]], etc. 
See [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Project:Contribution Agreement]] for a list of potentially affected pages. 
Cheers, --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 02:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

There is more on the wiki then just viewer documentation. Several SL communities use it to help organize, coordinate and document themselves; not just the viewer. This feels a bit like a rescoping of the wiki; that it isn't to be used for anything that doesn't pertain directly to the viewer. It makes me uncomfortable. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 06:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you both for your comments... what you saw was a transitional condition. As you'll see now, we've replaced that page with one that is more appropriate.
- Oz

:Hi Oz,
:I'm not sure if you realize that, by replacing the CA with the [[Project:Terms of Use|Terms of Use]], you just changed the licensing for all upcoming contributions to this Wiki... Rob created the Contribution Agreement in order to do the same as with the Viewer: To allow LL to gain shared ownership in the contributions so they can re-license and re-use them at will. As of today (in case the changes stick), all upcoming contributions to this Wiki are just CC BY-SA 3.0. No shared ownership anymore. I welcome that change, as the shared ownership made it hard to import most other content without violating copyright... In case it was intentional, then I applaud it. :)
:OK, enough smart-alecing. Going back under my rock now.
:Cheers, --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 18:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Oz Linden

2010-11-12T18:49:16Z

Zai Lynch:

==[[Project:Contribution Agreement]]==
Hello Oz, 
I noticed that you moved [[Project:Contribution Agreement]] to [[LLO:Contribution Agreement]] and that you [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Linden_Lab_Official%3AContribution_Agreement&diff=1104282&oldid=413443 changed the wording to fit the SL Viewer project]. I think that you're mistaken about the original intention of the page, as it isn't (or wasn't) related to the SL Viewer, but to the SL Wiki. The "Project" namespace is a meta namespace that's supposed to contain Wiki-rules / guidelines. When you edit any page in the Wiki, the following text is displayed by default above the ''summary'' field and the save/preview buttons:
{{Quotation|All content submitted to Second Life Wiki is contributed to Linden Lab under the Second Life Wiki Contribution Agreement (see [[Project:Contribution Agreement]] for details). Linden Lab will make your contribution available under the Creative Commons Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 license (see [[Project:Copyrights]] for details). If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here.
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. '''DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!'''}}
With your change, this message isn't correct anymore. I think you should either revert your change, or adjust the text shown above. You can access it at [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]]. You'd also have to change it at other spots, like [[Project:Terms of Use]], [[Project:Editing Guidelines]], etc. 
See [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Project:Contribution Agreement]] for a list of potentially affected pages. 
Cheers, --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 02:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

There is more on the wiki then just viewer documentation. Several SL communities use it to help organize, coordinate and document themselves; not just the viewer. This feels a bit like a rescoping of the wiki; that it isn't to be used for anything that doesn't pertain directly to the viewer. It makes me uncomfortable. -- '''[[User:Strife_Onizuka|Strife]]''' ([[User talk:Strife_Onizuka|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Strife_Onizuka|contribs]]) 06:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you both for your comments... what you saw was a transitional condition. As you'll see now, we've replaced that page with one that is more appropriate.
- Oz

:Hi Oz,
:I'm not sure if you realize that, by replacing the CA with the [[Project:Terms of Use|Terms of Use]], you just changed the licensing for all upcoming contributions to this Wiki... Rob created the Contribution Agreement in order to do the same as with the Viewer: To allow LL to gain shared ownership in the contributions so they can re-license and re-use them at will. As of today (in case the changes stick), all upcoming contributions to this Wiki are just CC BY-SA 3.0. No shared ownership anymore. I welcome that change, as the shared ownership made it hard to import most other content without violating copyright... In case it was intentional, then I applaud it. :)
:OK, enough enough smart-alecing. Going back under my rock now.
:Cheers, --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 18:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Oz Linden

2010-11-12T02:00:44Z

Zai Lynch: Created page with '==Project:Contribution Agreement== Hello Oz, I noticed that you moved Project:Contribution Agreement to LLO:Contribution Agreement and that you [https://wiki.seco...'

User:Zai Lynch/Viewerhelp:Inhaltsverzeichnis

2010-10-03T02:54:49Z

Zai Lynch:

{{Translated Help Article|de|Cycle 6 - 2010-8-17}}
<div class="help-hidden">'''Don't stray from the bullet point structure of this page or it will break in the Viewer. Be sure to continually check what this page looks like in the Viewer as you edit.'''</div>__NOTOC__
{{Help Inset|Sie möchten einen Fehler melden? 
Siehe {{Vh|Bug Reporting/de|Fehler melden}}. }}
* '''{{Vh|Second Life Help/de|Erste Schritte}}'''
** {{Vh|Looking around/de|Kamera, Zoom und Karte}}
** {{Vh|Moving around/de|Bewegungssteuerung}}
** {{Vh|Mit anderen Einwohnern kommunizieren}}
** {{Vh|Wie finde ich interessante Orte und Events?}}
** {{Vh|Inventarverwaltung}}
** {{Vh|Changing your appearance/de|Verändern Sie das Aussehen Ihres Avatars}}
** {{Vh|Getting more help/de|Sie brauchen mehr Hilfe?}}
** {{Vh|Glossar}}
* '''Weitere Tipps'''
** {{Vh|Wie bekomme ich Linden-Dollar?}}
** {{Vh|Objekte kaufen}}
** {{Vh|Buying and owning land/de|Land kaufen und besitzen}}
** {{Vh|Inworld-Medien erstellen und anzeigen}}
** {{Vh|Groups/de|Gruppen}}
** {{Vh|Building and scripting/de|Bauen und Skripten}}
** {{Vh|Adult content/de|Adult-Inhalt}}
* ''' {{Vh|Getting more help/de|Sie brauchen mehr Hilfe?}}'''
** {{Winlink|Hilfe-Browser}}
** {{Vh|Technische Fragen}}
** {{Vh|Fehlermeldungen}}
** {{Winlink|Missbrauch melden}}
** Über Second Life:
** {{Winlink|Info - Info|Info}}
** {{Winlink|Info - Danksagung|Danksagung}}
** {{Winlink|Info - Lizenzen|Lizenzen}}
* '''Steuerung'''
** '''Seitenleiste'''
*** '''Mein Profil'''
**** {{winlink|Mein Profil - Profil|Mein Profil}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Profil - Profil|Meine Auswahl}}
**** {{Vh|Auswahl-Info}}
**** {{Vh|Mein Profil - Auswahl bearbeiten|Auswahl bearbeiten}}
**** {{Vh|My Profile - Edit Classified/de|Anzeigen bearbeiten}}
*** '''Leute'''
**** {{winlink|Leute - In der Nähe|In der Nähe}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Freunde|Meine Freunde}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Gruppen|Meine Gruppen}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Aktuell|Aktuell}}
**** Für einzelne Einwohner:
**** {{winlink|Leute - Profil|Profil}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Auswahl|Auswahl}}
**** {{Vh|Auswahl-Info}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Notizen & Privatsphäre|Notizen & Privatsphäre}}
*** '''Orte'''
**** {{winlink|Orte - Meine Landmarken|Meine Landmarken}}
**** {{Vh|Places - Landmark/de|Landmarke}}
**** {{Vh|Places - Place Profile/de|Ortsprofil}}
**** {{winlink|Orte - Teleport-Liste|Teleport-Liste}}
*** '''Mein Inventar'''
**** {{Vh|My Inventory/de|Mein Inventar}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Inventar - Mein Inventar|Mein Inventar}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Inventar - Aktuell|Aktuell}}
**** {{Vh|Inventar - Filter anzeigen|Filter anzeigen}}
**** Objekte und Dateien zum Hochladen:
**** {{Winlink|Inventory Object Profile/de|Objektprofil}}
**** {{Winlink|Objektinhalte}}
**** {{Winlink|Animation}}
**** {{Winlink|Script Editor/de|Skript-Editor}}
**** {{Winlink|Notizkarte}}
**** {{Winlink|Sound}}
**** {{Winlink|Textur}}
**** {{Winlink|Animation hochladen}}
**** {{Winlink|Upload Image/de|Bild hochladen}}
**** {{Winlink|Sound hochladen}}
*** '''Mein Aussehen'''
**** {{winlink|Mein Aussehen - Meine Outfits|Meine Outfits}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Aussehen - Aktuelles Outfit|Aktuelles Outfit}}
**** Körperteile:
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Form|Form}}
**** {{Winlink|Appearance Editor - Skin/de|Skin (Haut)}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Haare|Haare}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Augen|Augen}}
**** Kleidung:
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Hemd|Hemd}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Hose|Hose}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Schuhe|Schuhe}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Socken|Socken}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Jacke|Jacke}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Handschuhe|Handschuhe}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Unterhemd|Unterhemd}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Unterhose|Unterhose}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Rock|Rock}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Tätowierung|Tätowierung}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Alpha|Alpha}}
**** Verwandte Themen:
**** {{Winlink|Gesten}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Gesten}}
** '''{{vh|Bauwerkzeuge}}'''
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Objekt|Objekt}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Eigenschaften|Eigenschaften}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Textur|Textur}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Inhalt|Inhalt}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Land|Land bearbeiten}}
*** Mehr Info:
*** {{Winlink|Farbauswahl}}
*** {{Winlink|Edit Content Permissions/de|Inhalt-Berechtigungen bearbeiten}}
*** {{Winlink|Raster-Optionen}}
*** {{Winlink|Texturauswahl}}
** '''Kommunikation'''
*** {{Winlink|Liste der ignorierten Einwohner}}
*** {{Winlink|Einwohner auswählen}}
*** {{Winlink|IMs}}
*** {{Winlink|Chat in der Nähe}}
*** {{Winlink|Benachrichtigungen}}
*** Anrufe:
*** {{Winlink|Eingehender Anruf}}
*** {{Winlink|Abgehender Anruf}}
*** {{Winlink|Voice/Sprache}}
*** Fotos:
*** {{Winlink|Foto-Vorschau}}
*** {{Winlink|Foto per E-Mail senden}}
** '''Gruppen'''
*** {{Vh|Gruppe - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** Rollen:
*** {{winlink|Group - Roles - Members/de|Mitglieder}}
*** {{winlink|Group - Roles - Roles/de|Rollen}}
*** {{winlink|Group - Roles - Abilities/de|Fähigkeiten}}
*** {{Vh|Gruppe - Mitteilungen}}
*** Land/Kapital:
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Planung|Planung}}
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Details|Details}}
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Verkäufe|Verkäufe}}
*** Mehr Info:
*** {{Vh|Gruppenauswahl}}
** '''{{winlink|Umwelt-Editor}}'''
*** (Auch [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/WindLight WindLight] genannt)
*** Erweiterter Himmel-Editor:
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Atmosphäre|Atmosphäre}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Licht|Licht}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Wolken|Wolken}}
*** {{Winlink|Tageszyklus-Editor}}
*** Erweiterter Wasser-Editor:
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Wasser-Editor - Einstellungen|Einstellungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Wasser-Editor - Bild|Bild}}
** '''Land'''
*** {{Winlink|Land kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Sell Land/de|Land verkaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Mein Land}}
*** Land-Info:
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Vertrag|Vertrag}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Objekte|Objekte}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Optionen|Optionen}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Medien|Medien}}
*** {{Winlink|Medien-URL festlegen}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Sound|Sound}}
*** {{Winlink|About Land - Access/de|Zugang}}
*** Region/Grundbesitz:
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Region|Region}}
*** {{Winlink|Telehub}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Estate - Debug/de|Fehler beseitigen}}
*** {{Winlink|Top Colliders and Top Scripts/de|Top-Kollisionsobjekte und Top-Skripts}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Bodentexturen|Bodentexturen}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Terrain|Terrain}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Grundbesitz|Grundbesitz}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Vertrag|Vertrag}}
** '''Linden Dollar (L$)'''
*** {{Winlink|Linden-Dollar kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einwohner bezahlen}}
** '''Medien'''
*** {{Winlink|Medienbrowser}}
*** {{Winlink|Medien in der Nähe}}
*** {{Winlink|Prim Media Controls/de|Prim-Mediensteuerung}}
*** Medieneinstellungen:
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Anpassen|Anpassen}}
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Sicherheit|Sicherheit}}
** '''Navigation'''
*** {{Vh|Second Life durchsuchen}}
*** {{Vh|Ansicht}}
*** {{Vh|Bewegen}}
*** {{Winlink|Karte}}
*** {{Winlink|Minikarte}}
*** {{Winlink|Strahlen}}
** '''Objekte'''
*** {{Winlink|Inhalt kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Objekt nach Name ignorieren}}
** '''Einstellungen'''
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Grafik|Grafik}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Grafik - Hardware-Einstellungen|Hardware-Einstellungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Privatsphäre|Privatsphäre}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Sound|Sound & Medien}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Chat|Chat}}
*** {{Winlink|Preferences - Notifications/de|Benachrichtigungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Konfiguration|Konfiguration}}
*** {{Winlink|Joystick-Konfiguration}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Erweitert|Erweitert}}
** '''Skripten'''
*** {{Winlink|LSL-Portal}}
*** {{Winlink|LSL Reference/de|LSL-Referenz}}
*** {{Winlink|Script Editor/de|Skript-Editor}}
*** {{Winlink|Skript-Information}}
*** {{Winlink|Script Notification/de|Skript-Benachrichtigung}}
*** {{Winlink|Script Search/de|Skriptsuche}}

User:Zai Lynch/Viewerhelp:Inhaltsverzeichnis

2010-10-03T02:17:49Z

Zai Lynch: some fixes. rest via email.

{{Translated Help Article|de|Cycle 6 - 2010-8-17}}
<div class="help-hidden">'''Don't stray from the bullet point structure of this page or it will break in the Viewer. Be sure to continually check what this page looks like in the Viewer as you edit.'''</div>__NOTOC__
{{Help Inset|Sie möchten einen Fehler melden? 
Siehe [[Viewerhelp:Bug Reporting|Fehler melden]]. }}
* '''{{Vh|Second Life Help/de|Erste Schritte}}'''
** {{Vh|Looking around/de|Kamera, Zoom und Karte}}
** {{Vh|Moving around/de|Bewegungssteuerung}}
** {{Vh|Mit anderen Einwohnern kommunizieren}}
** {{Vh|Wie finde ich interessante Orte und Events?}}
** {{Vh|Inventarverwaltung}}
** {{Vh|Changing your appearance/de|Verändern Sie das Aussehen Ihres Avatars}}
** {{Vh|Getting more help/de|Sie brauchen mehr Hilfe?}}
** {{Vh|Glossar}}
* '''Weitere Tipps'''
** {{Vh|Wie bekomme ich Linden-Dollar?}}
** {{Vh|Objekte kaufen}}
** {{Vh|Buying and owning land/de|Land kaufen und besitzen}}
** {{Vh|Inworld-Medien erstellen und anzeigen}}
** {{Vh|Groups/de|Gruppen}}
** {{Vh|Building and scripting/de|Bauen und Skripten}}
** {{Vh|Adult content/de|Adult-Inhalt}}
* ''' {{Vh|Getting more help/de|Sie brauchen mehr Hilfe?}}'''
** {{Winlink|Hilfe-Browser}}
** {{Vh|Technische Fragen}}
** {{Vh|Fehlermeldungen}}
** {{Winlink|Missbrauch melden}}
** Über Second Life:
** {{Winlink|Info - Info|Info}}
** {{Winlink|Info - Danksagung|Danksagung}}
** {{Winlink|Info - Lizenzen|Lizenzen}}
* '''Steuerung'''
** '''Seitenleiste'''
*** '''Mein Profil'''
**** {{winlink|Mein Profil - Profil|Mein Profil}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Profil - Profil|Meine Auswahl}}
**** {{Vh|Auswahl-Info}}
**** {{Vh|Mein Profil - Auswahl bearbeiten|Auswahl bearbeiten}}
**** {{Vh|My Profile - Edit Classified/de|Anzeigen bearbeiten}}
*** '''Leute'''
**** {{winlink|Leute - In der Nähe|In der Nähe}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Freunde|Meine Freunde}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Gruppen|Meine Gruppen}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Aktuell|Aktuell}}
**** Für einzelne Einwohner:
**** {{winlink|Leute - Profil|Profil}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Auswahl|Auswahl}}
**** {{Vh|Auswahl-Info}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Notizen & Privatsphäre|Notizen & Privatsphäre}}
*** '''Orte'''
**** {{winlink|Orte - Meine Landmarken|Meine Landmarken}}
**** {{Vh|Places - Landmark/de|Landmarke}}
**** {{Vh|Places - Place Profile/de|Ortsprofil}}
**** {{winlink|Orte - Teleport-Liste|Teleport-Liste}}
*** '''Mein Inventar'''
**** {{Vh|My Inventory/de|Mein Inventar}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Inventar - Mein Inventar|Mein Inventar}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Inventar - Aktuell|Aktuell}}
**** {{Vh|Inventar - Filter anzeigen|Filter anzeigen}}
**** Objekte und Dateien zum Hochladen:
**** {{Winlink|Inventory Object Profile/de|Objektprofil}}
**** {{Winlink|Objektinhalte}}
**** {{Winlink|Animation}}
**** {{Winlink|Script Editor/de|Skript-Editor}}
**** {{Winlink|Notizkarte}}
**** {{Winlink|Sound}}
**** {{Winlink|Textur}}
**** {{Winlink|Animation hochladen}}
**** {{Winlink|Upload Image/de|Bild hochladen}}
**** {{Winlink|Sound hochladen}}
*** '''Mein Aussehen'''
**** {{winlink|Mein Aussehen - Meine Outfits|Meine Outfits}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Aussehen - Aktuelles Outfit|Aktuelles Outfit}}
**** Körperteile:
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Form|Form}}
**** {{Winlink|Appearance Editor - Skin/de|Skin (Haut)}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Haare|Haare}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Augen|Augen}}
**** Kleidung:
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Hemd|Hemd}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Hose|Hose}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Schuhe|Schuhe}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Socken|Socken}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Jacke|Jacke}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Handschuhe|Handschuhe}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Unterhemd|Unterhemd}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Unterhose|Unterhose}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Rock|Rock}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Tätowierung|Tätowierung}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Alpha|Alpha}}
**** Verwandte Themen:
**** {{Winlink|Gesten}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Gesten}}
** '''{{vh|Bauwerkzeuge}}'''
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Objekt|Objekt}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Eigenschaften|Eigenschaften}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Textur|Textur}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Inhalt|Inhalt}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Land|Land bearbeiten}}
*** Mehr Info:
*** {{Winlink|Farbauswahl}}
*** {{Winlink|Edit Content Permissions/de|Inhalt-Berechtigungen bearbeiten}}
*** {{Winlink|Raster-Optionen}}
*** {{Winlink|Texturauswahl}}
** '''Kommunikation'''
*** {{Winlink|Liste der ignorierten Einwohner}}
*** {{Winlink|Einwohner auswählen}}
*** {{Winlink|IMs}}
*** {{Winlink|Chat in der Nähe}}
*** {{Winlink|Benachrichtigungen}}
*** Anrufe:
*** {{Winlink|Eingehender Anruf}}
*** {{Winlink|Abgehender Anruf}}
*** {{Winlink|Voice/Sprache}}
*** Fotos:
*** {{Winlink|Foto-Vorschau}}
*** {{Winlink|Foto per E-Mail senden}}
** '''Gruppen'''
*** {{Vh|Gruppe - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** Rollen:
*** {{winlink|Group - Roles - Members/de|Mitglieder}}
*** {{winlink|Group - Roles - Roles/de|Rollen}}
*** {{winlink|Group - Roles - Abilities/de|Fähigkeiten}}
*** {{Vh|Gruppe - Mitteilungen}}
*** Land/Kapital:
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Planung|Planung}}
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Details|Details}}
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Verkäufe|Verkäufe}}
*** Mehr Info:
*** {{Vh|Gruppenauswahl}}
** '''{{winlink|Umwelt-Editor}}'''
*** (Auch [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/WindLight WindLight] genannt)
*** Erweiterter Himmel-Editor:
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Atmosphäre|Atmosphäre}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Licht|Licht}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Wolken|Wolken}}
*** {{Winlink|Tageszyklus-Editor}}
*** Erweiterter Wasser-Editor:
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Wasser-Editor - Einstellungen|Einstellungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Wasser-Editor - Bild|Bild}}
** '''Land'''
*** {{Winlink|Land kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Sell Land/de|Land verkaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Mein Land}}
*** Land-Info:
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Vertrag|Vertrag}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Objekte|Objekte}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Optionen|Optionen}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Medien|Medien}}
*** {{Winlink|Medien-URL festlegen}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Sound|Sound}}
*** {{Winlink|About Land - Access/de|Zugang}}
*** Region/Grundbesitz:
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Region|Region}}
*** {{Winlink|Telehub}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Estate - Debug/de|Fehler beseitigen}}
*** {{Winlink|Top Colliders and Top Scripts/de|Top-Kollisionsobjekte und Top-Skripts}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Bodentexturen|Bodentexturen}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Terrain|Terrain}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Grundbesitz|Grundbesitz}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Vertrag|Vertrag}}
** '''Linden Dollar (L$)'''
*** {{Winlink|Linden-Dollar kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einwohner bezahlen}}
** '''Medien'''
*** {{Winlink|Medienbrowser}}
*** {{Winlink|Medien in der Nähe}}
*** {{Winlink|Prim Media Controls/de|Prim-Mediensteuerung}}
*** Medieneinstellungen:
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Anpassen|Anpassen}}
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Sicherheit|Sicherheit}}
** '''Navigation'''
*** {{Vh|Second Life durchsuchen}}
*** {{Vh|Ansicht}}
*** {{Vh|Bewegen}}
*** {{Winlink|Karte}}
*** {{Winlink|Minikarte}}
*** {{Winlink|Strahlen}}
** '''Objekte'''
*** {{Winlink|Inhalt kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Objekt nach Name ignorieren}}
** '''Einstellungen'''
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Grafik|Grafik}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Grafik - Hardware-Einstellungen|Hardware-Einstellungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Privatsphäre|Privatsphäre}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Sound|Sound & Medien}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Chat|Chat}}
*** {{Winlink|Preferences - Notifications/de|Benachrichtigungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Konfiguration|Konfiguration}}
*** {{Winlink|Joystick-Konfiguration}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Erweitert|Erweitert}}
** '''Skripten'''
*** {{Winlink|LSL-Portal}}
*** {{Winlink|LSL Reference/de|LSL-Referenz}}
*** {{Winlink|Script Editor/de|Skript-Editor}}
*** {{Winlink|Skript-Information}}
*** {{Winlink|Script Notification/de|Skript-Benachrichtigung}}
*** {{Winlink|Script Search/de|Skriptsuche}}

User:Zai Lynch/Viewerhelp:Inhaltsverzeichnis

2010-10-03T02:03:20Z

Zai Lynch: Created page with '{{subst:Viewerhelp:Inhaltsverzeichnis}}'

{{Translated Help Article|de|Cycle 6 - 2010-8-17}}
<div class="help-hidden">'''Don't stray from the bullet point structure of this page or it will break in the Viewer. Be sure to continually check what this page looks like in the Viewer as you edit.'''</div>__NOTOC__
{{Help Inset|Sie möchten einen Fehler melden? 
Siehe [[Viewerhelp:Bug Reporting|Fehler melden]]. }}
* '''{{Vh|Second Life Help/de|Erste Schritte}}'''
** {{Vh|Looking around/de|Kamera, Zoom und Karte}}
** {{Vh|Moving around/de|Bewegungssteuerung}}
** {{Vh|Mit anderen Einwohnern kommunizieren}}
** {{Vh|Wie finde ich interessante Orte und Events?}}
** {{Vh|Inventarverwaltung}}
** {{Vh|Verändern Sie Ihr Aussehen|Verändern Sie das Aussehen Ihres Avatars}}
** {{Vh|Sie brauchen mehr Hilfe?}}
** {{Vh|Glossar}}
* '''Weitere Tipps'''
** {{Vh|Wie bekomme ich Linden-Dollar?}}
** {{Vh|Objekte kaufen}}
** {{Vh|Land kaufen und besitzen}}
** {{Vh|Inworld-Medien erstellen und anzeigen}}
** {{Vh|Gruppen}}
** {{Vh|Bauen und Skripten}}
** {{Vh|Adult-Inhalt}}
* ''' {{Vh|Sie brauchen mehr Hilfe?}}'''
** {{Winlink|Hilfe-Browser}}
** {{Vh|Technische Fragen}}
** {{Vh|Fehlermeldungen}}
** {{Winlink|Missbrauch melden}}
** Über Second Life:
** {{Winlink|Info - Info|Info}}
** {{Winlink|Info - Danksagung|Danksagung}}
** {{Winlink|Info - Lizenzen|Lizenzen}}
* '''Steuerung'''
** '''Seitenleiste'''
*** '''Mein Profil'''
**** {{winlink|Mein Profil - Profil|Mein Profil}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Profil - Profil|Meine Auswahl}}
**** {{Vh|Auswahl-Info}}
**** {{Vh|Mein Profil - Auswahl bearbeiten|Auswahl bearbeiten}}
**** {{Vh|Mein Profil - Anzeigen bearbeiten|Anzeigen bearbeiten}}
*** '''Leute'''
**** {{winlink|Leute - In der Nähe|In der Nähe}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Freunde|Meine Freunde}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Gruppen|Meine Gruppen}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Aktuell|Aktuell}}
**** Für einzelne Einwohner:
**** {{winlink|Leute - Profil|Profil}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Auswahl|Auswahl}}
**** {{Vh|Auswahl-Info}}
**** {{winlink|Leute - Notizen & Privatsphäre|Notizen & Privatsphäre}}
*** '''Orte'''
**** {{winlink|Orte - Meine Landmarken|Meine Landmarken}}
**** {{Vh|Orte - Landmarke|Landmarke}}
**** {{Vh|Orte - Ortsprofil|Ortsprofil}}
**** {{winlink|Orte - Teleport-Liste|Teleport-Liste}}
*** '''Mein Inventar'''
**** {{Vh|Mein Inventar}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Inventar - Mein Inventar|Mein Inventar}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Inventar - Aktuell|Aktuell}}
**** {{Vh|Inventar - Filter anzeigen|Filter anzeigen}}
**** Objekte und Dateien zum Hochladen:
**** {{Winlink|Inventar - Objektprofil|Objektprofil}}
**** {{Winlink|Objektinhalte}}
**** {{Winlink|Animation}}
**** {{Winlink|Skript-Editor}}
**** {{Winlink|Notizkarte}}
**** {{Winlink|Sound}}
**** {{Winlink|Textur}}
**** {{Winlink|Animation hochladen}}
**** {{Winlink|Bild hochladen}}
**** {{Winlink|Sound hochladen}}
*** '''Mein Aussehen'''
**** {{winlink|Mein Aussehen - Meine Outfits|Meine Outfits}}
**** {{winlink|Mein Aussehen - Aktuelles Outfit|Aktuelles Outfit}}
**** Körperteile:
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Form|Form}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Skin|Skin (Haut)}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Haare|Haare}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Augen|Augen}}
**** Kleidung:
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Hemd|Hemd}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Hose|Hose}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Schuhe|Schuhe}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Socken|Socken}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Jacke|Jacke}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Handschuhe|Handschuhe}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Unterhemd|Unterhemd}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Unterhose|Unterhose}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Rock|Rock}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Tätowierung|Tätowierung}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Aussehen - Alpha|Alpha}}
**** Verwandte Themen:
**** {{Winlink|Gesten}}
**** {{Winlink|Fenster Gesten}}
** '''{{vh|Bauwerkzeuge}}'''
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Objekt|Objekt}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Eigenschaften|Eigenschaften}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Textur|Textur}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Inhalt|Inhalt}}
*** {{Winlink|Bauwerkzeuge - Land|Land bearbeiten}}
*** Mehr Info:
*** {{Winlink|Farbauswahl}}
*** {{Winlink|Inhalt-Berechtigungen bearbeiten}}
*** {{Winlink|Raster-Optionen}}
*** {{Winlink|Texturauswahl}}
** '''Kommunikation'''
*** {{Winlink|Liste der ignorierten Einwohner}}
*** {{Winlink|Einwohner auswählen}}
*** {{Winlink|IMs}}
*** {{Winlink|Chat in der Nähe}}
*** {{Winlink|Benachrichtigungen}}
*** Anrufe:
*** {{Winlink|Eingehender Anruf}}
*** {{Winlink|Abgehender Anruf}}
*** {{Winlink|Voice/Sprache}}
*** Fotos:
*** {{Winlink|Foto-Vorschau}}
*** {{Winlink|Foto per E-Mail senden}}
** '''Gruppen'''
*** {{Vh|Gruppe - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** Rollen:
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Rollen - Mitglieder|Mitglieder}}
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Rollen - Rollen|Rollen}}
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Rollen - Fähigkeiten|Fähigkeiten}}
*** {{Vh|Gruppe - Mitteilungen}}
*** Land/Kapital:
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Planung|Planung}}
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Details|Details}}
*** {{winlink|Gruppe - Land/Kapital - Verkäufe|Verkäufe}}
*** Mehr Info:
*** {{Vh|Gruppenauswahl}}
** '''{{winlink|Umwelt-Editor}}'''
*** (Auch [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/WindLight WindLight] genannt)
*** Erweiterter Himmel-Editor:
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Atmosphäre|Atmosphäre}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Licht|Licht}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Himmel-Editor - Wolken|Wolken}}
*** {{Winlink|Tageszyklus-Editor}}
*** Erweiterter Wasser-Editor:
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Wasser-Editor - Einstellungen|Einstellungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Erweiterter Wasser-Editor - Bild|Bild}}
** '''Land'''
*** {{Winlink|Land kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Land verkaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Mein Land}}
*** Land-Info:
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Vertrag|Vertrag}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Objekte|Objekte}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Optionen|Optionen}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Medien|Medien}}
*** {{Winlink|Medien-URL festlegen}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Sound|Sound}}
*** {{Winlink|Land-Info - Zugang|Zugang}}
*** Region/Grundbesitz:
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Region|Region}}
*** {{Winlink|Telehub}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Fehler beseitigen|Fehler beseitigen}}
*** {{Winlink|Top-Kollisionsobjekte und Top-Skripts}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Bodentexturen|Bodentexturen}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Terrain|Terrain}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Grundbesitz|Grundbesitz}}
*** {{Winlink|Region/Grundbesitz - Vertrag|Vertrag}}
** '''Linden Dollar (L$)'''
*** {{Winlink|Linden-Dollar kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einwohner bezahlen}}
** '''Medien'''
*** {{Winlink|Medienbrowser}}
*** {{Winlink|Medien in der Nähe}}
*** {{Winlink|Prim-Mediensteuerung}}
*** Medieneinstellungen:
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Anpassen|Anpassen}}
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Medieneinstellungen - Sicherheit|Sicherheit}}
** '''Navigation'''
*** {{Vh|Second Life durchsuchen}}
*** {{Vh|Ansicht}}
*** {{Vh|Bewegen}}
*** {{Winlink|Karte}}
*** {{Winlink|Minikarte}}
*** {{Winlink|Strahlen}}
** '''Objekte'''
*** {{Winlink|Inhalt kaufen}}
*** {{Winlink|Objekt nach Name ignorieren}}
** '''Einstellungen'''
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Allgemein|Allgemein}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Grafik|Grafik}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Grafik - Hardware-Einstellungen|Hardware-Einstellungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Privatsphäre|Privatsphäre}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Sound|Sound & Medien}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Chat|Chat}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Benachrichtigungen|Benachrichtigungen}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Konfiguration|Konfiguration}}
*** {{Winlink|Joystick-Konfiguration}}
*** {{Winlink|Einstellungen - Erweitert|Erweitert}}
** '''Skripten'''
*** {{Winlink|LSL-Portal}}
*** {{Winlink|LSL-Referenz}}
*** {{Winlink|Skript-Editor}}
*** {{Winlink|Skript-Information}}
*** {{Winlink|Skript-Benachrichtigung}}
*** {{Winlink|Skriptsuche}}

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2010-10-02T02:02:48Z

Zai Lynch: fixing Viewerhelp:2.0.2/Mein Aussehen - Outfit bearbeiten et. al.

#REDIRECT [[Template:InvIcon DisclosureArrow Closed]]

User:Simone Linden/Office Hours/Monday

2010-09-29T22:22:52Z

Zai Lynch: I miss you already...

Template talk:Box

2010-09-21T22:07:56Z

Zai Lynch: /* Edit link */

== Edit link ==

Is there some way to make the section edit link in the Box' title bar usable? Currently, it takes you to the edit page of this template here. 
--[[User:Boroondas Gupte|Boroondas Gupte]] 20:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:I don't want to say "no", cause there might very well be a trick that I don't know of, though I'm not aware of a workaround right now...
:--[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 22:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Project Snowstorm

2010-09-21T17:54:44Z

Zai Lynch: future proofing for easier linkpaste

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<div style="padding: 0.5em; font-size: 11pt;">[[Image:Snowstorm-icon.png|left]] '''''Snowstorm'' is the name of the team responsible for coordinating development and integration of the Second Life Viewer 2, and for engaging the open source development community in its evolution. The Snowstorm team and Project Snowstorm started in August, 2010.'''</div> 

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'''To improve the performance, reliability, and ease of use of the Second Life Viewer, while enabling the rapid, effective deployment of new Viewer features and functionality to the Second Life Resident population.'''
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{{Box|Goals|2=
'''Evaluate & Prioritize work by asking''':
:''Does it make Second Life faster, easier, and more fun?''

'''Work in the open''':
* Share work processes, branches, and backlog.
* Demonstrate rapid responsiveness to feedback and contributions from the open source community
* Provide builds from the Development (integration) repository bi-weekly
'''Improve user experience''':
* Clean up broken glass
* Fix Viewer bugs
* Import improvements from Snowglobe, other Third Party Viewers, and open source contributors
* Add small features that have high value/low cost

For specific plans, see the [https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnxJWUubGIsodENWR2xPNW5kUl9veXJmS0VDOUN4S0E&hl=en Product Backlog], the current list of product plans and priorities; this is a living document, subject to change based on community feedback, business priority, and coordination with other teams in the Lab.
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{{Box|Team|2=
* [[User:Q_Linden|Q Linden]] - Tech Lead
* [[User:Esbee Linden|Esbee Linden]] - Product/Business Lead
* [[User:Oz_Linden|Oz Linden]] - Open Source Lead
* [[User:Merov_Linden|Merov Linden]], [[User:Tofu_Linden|Tofu Linden]], [[User:Aimee_Linden|Aimee Linden]], and three contract engineers
* Open Source Contributors
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{{Box|Communications|2=
*Email list: [https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensource-dev opensource-dev] ([http://lists.secondlife.com/pipermail/opensource-dev/ archive])
*IRC: [irc://irc.freenode.org/opensl #opensl on freenode]
*[http://twitter.com/snowstormsl Twitter stream]
*[http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/snowstorm Blog]
*[http://www.google.com/calendar/hosted/lindenlab.com/embed?src=lindenlab.com_k0e2g2gmqrhm0esbrh31f0qbac%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles Calendar] ([http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/lindenlab.com_k0e2g2gmqrhm0esbrh31f0qbac%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics ical])
*Daily Scrum: M-F 6:30am-6:45am {{SLT}} at [http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Hippotropolis/146/73/26 Scrum Platform]
===Testing===
*[[Downloading test builds]].
*[http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/snowstorm_viewer-development/latest.html Latest Build]. ''This build may not have been tested at all. Use at your own risk.''
*[http://hg.secondlife.com/viewer-development Get the source code]
===Sprints===
====Sprint 4====
:*[https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsjYANl9JgoKdFpBdGlXaUNIZ0pDZi16SzVJM0VuM3c&hl=en&authkey=CLquydEM VWR-20694, VWR-20702 and Regression suite] - r209332.
:*[https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsjYANl9JgoKdFFxQkthZ2RwOUJxRUNjT01GRVRrSEE&hl=en&authkey=CJuyn58G Latest Smoke test] — r209678.
====Sprint 3====
:*[https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsjYANl9JgoKdHJ2dlVvZElMbEd2Ukl4cUt1dE1lTXc&hl=en&authkey=COW-4Fc Last build of Sprint 3] r209456 - Smoke
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Snowstorm uses a modified [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_%28development%29 scrum] process.

We maintain a list of all the work we'd like to be doing, called the ''Product Backlog''; it is a public living document, and new proposals may be added to it at any time:
* [http://jira.secondlife.com/secure/VersionBoard.jspa?selectedProjectId=10244 Product Backlog].
** [[How To Propose A Viewer Feature]]
Work is organized into two week ''sprints''. At the beginning of each sprint, we choose items to work on from the product backlog to construct the ''sprint backlog'', the list of tasks we are committing to complete in the sprint. Once defined, we do not normally change this list during the sprint. We track progress daily at the ''Snowstorm Team Standup'' - a short (target: 15 minutes) meeting in which contributors who have committed to deliverables in the sprint report on daily progress, goals, and impediments:
* [http://jira.secondlife.com/secure/TaskBoard.jspa?selectedBoardId=10749&selectedProjectId=10244&type=TB&start=0 Sprint 4 Backlog]
** Daily scrum is 6:30am-7:30am {{SLT}} at [http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Hippotropolis/146/73/26 Scrum Platform]
**: ''Note: the daily scrum is public, but only attendees who have committed to deliverables in the sprint are allowed to speak or add to chat during the meeting.''
** [[Snowstorm Daily Scrum Archive|Daily Scrum Archive]]
** [[Snowstorm Sprint Retrospective Archive|Sprint Retrospective Archive]]
In addition to its own development tasks, the Snowstorm team is responsible for integration of all contributions to the Viewer from other Linden Lab development teams and from open source.
* [[Viewer Integration and Release Processes]]
* [[How To Submit A Viewer Change]]
* [[Basic Mercurial Workflow]]
* [[Creating a version control repository]]

''Note: Changes that introduce new Viewer features may not be submitted for integration without having been reviewed and accepted into the product backlog. Changes to fix a bug that the triage process has Accepted may be submitted at any time so long as all integration criteria have been met.''
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==Questions & Answers==

; What is the team process?
: We use a modified Scrum process
:* We intend to release development builds every Wednesday
:** We focus on integration of new things on Mondays.
:** Wednesday is test, release, and reprioritization day.
:** We will create a Second Life Development Viewer channel for the releases.
; What is our release strategy?
: See the [[Viewer Integration and Release Processes]] page
; What are the steps to develop a Viewer change?
: See [[Develop Viewer Code]]
; How are “big features” released?
: The project team for the feature (whether inside or outside Linden Lab) creates a clone of the development repository and develops the feature there; we call this a "Project branch".
: Projects are encouraged to build the Viewer from the Project branch and give it to residents to test and experiment with the feature.
: When the feature is ready, the Snowstorm team pulls it back to the development repository.
: Our goal is short term, low cost, individual fixes, aimed at incremental improvements that will improve the Viewer. Other teams within Linden Lab will normally be aiming for larger, feature-centered, high-value projects that will require integration of resources across multiple technology centers.
; Who gets commit access?
: Individual development teams decide who has commit access to their Project branches.
: For the Development branch, the Snowstorm Team has a JIRA-based queue for requests for integration (pull requests) from Project branches. Nothing in that queue should be a surprise, as all of it should have gone through the Viewer Product Team. The Snowstorm team commits to servicing the items in that queue within 1 business day.
; Which issue tracker are we using?
: We’ll continue to use pJira until the new integrated Jira 4 becomes available. We’ll be using VWR and moving appropriate open issues from SNOW and Linden Lab internal projects (these will become part of the Snowstorm Team backlog).

[[Category:Open Source Portal]]

Talk:Marketplace/Opening boxes

2010-09-19T18:44:45Z

Zai Lynch: /* Possible Translation */

== To Do ==
*Mentioning of self unpacking boxes (scripts).
[[Image:Zai_signature.png|45px]] '''[[User:Zai Lynch|Lynch]]''' ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 23:57, 6 October 2008 (PDT)

== Include this in the KB ==
Check for dupe and merge!

Also linking here from Xstreet SL FAQ.

===I paid good L$ for this and all I wound up with was a box! Where's the stuff I bought?===

Your items are inside that box. To get to them:

# Rez the box on the ground. Make sure you're on land that allows objects to be rezzed; a sandbox is always a good place if you don't own land.
# Right-click on the box and select '''Open'''.
# A window opens displaying the contents of the box. This is your stuff!
# Drag each item displayed in the contents into your Inventory window.
# Rez or wear them as appropriate.

In the event that you don't see an '''Open''' option in the pie menu, or the Open window is empty, you can also open a box this way:

# Rez the box on the ground. Make sure you're on land that allows objects to be rezzed; a sandbox is always a good place if you don't own land.
# Right-click on the box and select '''Edit'''.
# Click the '''More''' button to expand the Edit window.
# Click the '''Contents''' tab to see the objects inside the box. This is your stuff!
# Drag each item displayed in the contents into your Inventory window.
# Rez or wear them as appropriate.

'''- [[Image:Torley-favicon.png]] [[User:Torley Linden|Torley]] on 2009-10-22 @ 9:49 AM PST'''

== Possible Translation ==

There is a unofficial translation of this document into Spanish (adapted to Viewer 2): https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Abriendo_Cajas How to include that page in translations of this KB document? '''[[User:TraductoresAnonimos Alter|TraductoresAnonimos Alter]] on 2010-9-19 @ 8:57 AM PT'''
:I took the liberty to connect them. When the Spanish Localization Specialist (do we have one?) reviews the translation, [[Template:Help/es]] can be replaced by [[Template:KBmaster]] and the page can be put under flagged revs. --[[File:Zai_signature.png|45px|link=User:Zai Lynch]] ([[User talk:Zai Lynch|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch|contribs]]) 18:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Abriendo Cajas

2010-09-19T18:40:15Z

Zai Lynch: L10n

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* '''ATENCIÓN''': esta es una traducción ''NO OFICIAL'' de un documento en inglés de la ''Knowledge Base'' oficial: [[Opening boxes|'''Opening boxes''']].
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== ¿Nuevo en Second Life? ==

¿Has comprado algo en el '''[http://marketplace.secondlife.com/ mercado virtual de Second Life]''' o en el mundo y te asombra que lo que has recibido sea una caja? ¿Algo así como "He comprado un collar pero lo que tengo es una caja con la imagen de un collar"?

* ¡No te preocupes, esto es normal! '''Frecuentemente, los objetos de Second Life se venden dentro de contenedores que tienes que "abrir" para obtener su contenido.''' Por ejemplo, si compras ropa que viene en una caja, ''debes'' sacar la ropa de la caja que la contiene, y, entonces, transferirla a tu inventario para que puedes vestírtela. Con una mínima práctica esto te resultará absolutamente natural.
* '''No te pongas o te vistas la caja.''' Recuerda que tienes que ''abrir'' la caja y usar sus ''contenidos''. Si por accidente te vistes la caja y se anexa a tu avatar basta con que la pulses con el botón derecho y elijas '''Quitar''' en el menú que se abrirá. Y no te sientas mal, esto forma parte del humor de nuestra [[culture|cultura]] y son muchos los Residentes a los que les ha pasado esto en un momento u otro.

== Acepta la entrega ==

Tras comprar un objeto verás un aviso como este en tu visor de Second Life:

: [[File:OB-Guardar-w.jpg]]

Pulsa el botón '''Guardar''' para confirmar que quieres el objeto.

== Ve a un 'sandbox' ==

Para poder abrir y desempaquetar la caja que has aceptado, debes estar en un terreno en el que tengas permiso para colocar en el suelo ({{xref|rez|"rez"}}) la caja. Si no estás seguro de si tienes este permiso en el lugar en que estás, bsta con que vayas a un '[[sandbox]]', pues allí cualquiera tiene permiso para "rez".

# Pulsa en un 'sandbox' de [[Sandbox#Public_Linden_sandboxes|esta lista]], como, por ejemplo, [http://slurl.com/secondlife/Sandbox%20Island/ Sandbox Island].
# Cuando aparezca la página de SLurl, pulsa en '''Teleport Now'''. En tu visor de Second Life aparecerá una ventana con la información del lugar.
# Pulsa '''Teleportar''' para viajar al 'sandbox' que has elegido.

== Encuentra la caja en tu Inventario ==

# Pulsa en el menú lateral la pestaña '''Mi inventario''' si es que no está ya abierta.
# El objeto debería de estar realzado en tu inventario, dentro de la carpeta Objetos.
#* Si no puedes encontrarlo, pulsa la pestaña '''{{win|Ítems recientes}}'''. Debería de aparecer entre los primeros resultados.
#: [[File:OB-Inventario-w.jpg]]

== Abrir y desempaquetar la caja ==

Recuerda que ''es necesario'' que estés en un terreno en el que tengas permiso para hacer aparecer tu caja, para lo que llamamos '{{xref|rez|rez}}' tu caja. Consulta arriba la sección "Ve a un 'sandbox'".

Una vez que estés en un lugar donde poder 'rez' (poner en el suelo) tu caja, puedes guiarte por este vídeo en inglés (puedes ver más abajo escritos en español los pasos):

: {{KBvideo|uauWvOs5Ox4|640|505|type=youtube}}

# Arrastra la caja desde tu Inventario hasta el suelo para que aparezca ('rez') allí.
# Pulsa con el botón derecho la caja y elige '''Abrir'''.
# Se abre una ventana (si la caja tiene mucho contenido puede tardar un poco).
# Pulsa '''Copiar al inventario''' para traspasar los contenidos de la caja a tu inventario..
#* Si la caja contiene un vestuario que quieres vestirte ya, pulsa '''Copiar y vestirse'''.
# Cuando se hayan copiado los ítems, estarán en tu inventario dentro de una carpeta que tendrá el mismo nombre que la caja. Si no los ves, pulsa la pestaña '''{{win|Ítems recientes}}'''.

== Vístete o pon el mundo los ítems que has comprado ==
Ya tienes tus ítems en tu inventario. Arrástralos hasta el suelo para hacerlos aparecer en el mundo, o púlsalos con el botón derecho y elige "Ponerme" si son ropas u otros accesorios o componentes del avatar.

== Sigue de compras ==

Ahora que ya eres un maestro en el arte de recibir tus compras, ¿por qué no seguir practicando? Es divertido, ¿verdad?

# '''Navega''' - Ve al [http://marketplace.secondlife.com/ Second Life Marketplace, la web oficial de Second Life para compras,] para vivir una jornada de compras rápida y entretenida basada en la web, o compra en el mundo (en las tiendas virtuales de Second Life).
# '''Compra Dólares Linden''' - Los Dólares Linden (L$) son el medio de cambio con el que puedes comprar bienes en Second Life.
#* [https://secure-web32.secondlife.com/my/lindex/buy.php? Ve aquí] para comprar L$ rápidamente (en el Marketplace también puedes usar [http://www.paypal.es/es PayPal]).
#* Para comprar dólares Linden que puedas usar en las tiendas virtuales de Second Life, pulsa '''COMPRAR L$''' arriba a la derecha de tu visor. También verás allí tu saldo de dólares Linden para gastar en Second Life.
# '''Compra algo''' - Second Life está lleno de pequeños negocios. Cuando compras bienes virtuales en Second Life, estás apoyando una creciente economía de pequeños negocios.

== ¿Por qué me dice "Can't rez object..." ("No se puede crear el objeto...")? ==

Si intentas arrastrar un objeto desde tu inventario hasta el mundo y ves este error...

: [[File:Can_t_rez_object.png]]

...significa que en esa parcela no está permitido crear y poner objetos. ¿Cómo puedes saberlo?

# Pulsa con el botón derecho la barra de navegación y elige '''Mostrar las propiedades de la parcela'''.
# Deja tu ratón encima del cubo con un círculo cruzado de prohibición y verás "Building/dropping objects not allowed" (Construcción/colocación de objetos no permitida").
#: [[File:Building-dropping_objects_not_allowed.png]]

O bien:

# Elige el menú '''Mundo''' > '''Perfil del lugar''' > '''Perfil del lugar'''.
# En la barra lateral, despliega la sección '''Parcela''' (si es que no está ya abierta).

Este vídeo muestra -en inglés- los pasos anteriores:

: {{KBvideo|ftiOTqFk-ds|640|505|type=youtube}}

En algunos casos, si perteneces a un grupo que posee terreno, activar tu etiqueta de grupo te permitirá construir aunque apareza el icono de no construir (que se aplicará a los residentes en general).

=== Encontrando terreno para colocar ('rez') objetos (como 'sandboxes') ===

* Busca un [[sandbox|'sandbox' público]], que pueden usarse para 'rezear' cajas y desempaquetarlas.
* Muchas tiendas tienen una sección especial para poder colocar cajas y abrirlas. Generalmente, el tiempo para que se auto devuelva la caja a tu inventario está fijado en unos pocos minutos para evitar acumulaciones de cajas, pero es suficiente para desempaquetarlas.

=== Desempaquetar una caja en tu avatar ===

{{KBcaution|Haz esto sólo si tienes soltura en arrastrar y soltar ítems; si no es así, puedes perder cosas accidentalmente.}}

Puedes desempaquetar una caja anexada a tu avatar. Es útil si vas a emplear mucho tiempo en encontrar un terreno donde poder ponerla, porque tú puedes anexar algo a tu avatar en cualquier sitio. Sin embargo, se pierde la ventaja de los botones '''Copiar al inventario''' y '''Copiar y vestirse'''.

# Pulsa con el botón derecho la caja en tu inventario, y elige '''Anexar como HUD''' o '''Anezar a''', y, entonces, elige un punto para anexar. Puede ser preferible '''Anexar como HUD''', porque la caja se anexa a un punto de tu pantalla y no de tu avatar, y es más improbable que estropees tu apariencia.
#* O, sin más, elige '''Ponerme''', lo que anexará la caja a su punto de anexión (si, como suele ocurrir, no tiene fijado ese punto, se anexará a tu '''Mano der.''').
# Pulsa con el botón derecho la caja que te has anexado y elige '''Editar'''.
# En la ventana de construcción, pulsa la pestaña '''Contenido'''.
# Arrastra cada item del contenido del objeto hasta tu inventario. También puedes usar las teclas {{K|Shift}} (Mayús.) o {{K|Ctrl}} para elegir varios ítems.
#* Esto no funciona con ítems "(no copiable)".
# Cierra la ventana de las herramientas de construcción.

== Ver también (en inglés) ==
* '''[[Inventory]]'''
* '''[[Click actions]]'''

Opening boxes/es

2010-09-19T18:37:13Z

Zai Lynch: L10n redirect

#REDIRECT [[Abriendo Cajas]]