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* [15:04] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda]
* [15:04] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  hopes to get to VWR-646
* [15:05] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Remind me if we don't Joeseph
* [15:05] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Howdy Bri!
* [15:05] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  Thank you, it makes me mental lol
* [15:05] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  uh i dotn even see that on the agenda?
* [15:05] [[User:Bri Gufler|Bri Gufler]]:  Hi Folks
* [15:05] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  maybe we could start with it then?
* [15:05] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  Hot by vote
* [15:05] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  The Zen of Linden ^^
* [15:06] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  takes a look @ VWR-646
* [15:06] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Cannot Purchase Land from Private Estate When Account is in Downgrade status
* [15:06] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  Thats the one  :-) 
* [15:06] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  Hey Squirrel
* [15:07] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Heya Zen
* [15:07] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  that sounds nasty...
* [15:07] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Zen, Alexa, looking @ https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-646
* [15:07] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  thanks
* [15:08] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  I don't know why this is...has it always been this way?
* [15:08] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  I only recently noticed it myself
* [15:09] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  But its quite hampering for estate owners
* [15:09] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Let's ask around internally Alexa, and import depending on what we find
* [15:09] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  hmm that strikes me a s a server issue. amybe the misfiling is why its gone unnoticed?
* [15:09] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  I don't have any further info atm, so let's go back to our agenda...
* [15:09] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda]
* [15:09] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  Yeah there is a work around but its....I donno a pain
* [15:10] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  Thanks
* [15:10] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Thx for bringing it up Joeseph
* [15:10] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  FIrst up today, er, second I guess!
* [15:10] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda]
* [15:10] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  oops
* [15:10] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8587[c
* [15:10] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-646
* [15:10] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Pretty sure that's a dupe, yes?
* [15:11] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  I think so, Dirk's comment to Char sort of implies it
* [15:11] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  nods
* [15:11] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  i think it is but not enough info to tell for sure
* [15:11] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Hey McCabe, Welcome
* [15:11] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  f
* [15:11] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Hey Yuu, triage just started
* [15:12] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  ahoy!
* [15:12] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Hey McCabe :D
* [15:12] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda]
* [15:12] [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]]:  hiyas  :) 
* [15:12] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  hi mccabe
* [15:12] [[User:Aimee Trescothick|Aimee Trescothick]]:  lo  :) 
* [15:12] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Next up
* [15:12] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-4680[c
* [15:12] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4680
* [15:13] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  didn't we hand that off last week?
* [15:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  ah yes, we did
* [15:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  sorry!
* [15:14] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  what was the decision?
* [15:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  we said 'Asking around for repros internally and at Monday triage'
* [15:14] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  eeps im sorry i missed that too
* [15:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  np
* [15:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  let's ask Tofu and Soft
* [15:14] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok
* [15:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  and perhaps ping our friends in QA
* [15:14] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  we have friends there O.o
* [15:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  NExt up
* [15:15] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-2554[c
* [15:15] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2554
* [15:15] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  an oldy...
* [15:15] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  definally can repo AND i killed the duplicate ont aht one (which was stupidly my own)
* [15:15] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  and its still doing that even on .21
* [15:15] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  the client or the website?
* [15:15] [[User:Calyps0 Janus|Calyps0 Janus]]:  should be considered a feature rather than a bug
* [15:16] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Any idea how it happens?
* [15:16] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  because I never have the client fail to remember the password..
* [15:16] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  me neither
* [15:16] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  You can repro Cummere?
* [15:16] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  i do soemtimes
* [15:16] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  i think its an sisue with it nto propperly saving a file somewhere
* [15:16] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  yeah i can. 90% on my laptop about 10% of logins on my pc
* [15:17] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  hmms
* [15:17] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Hard to track down w/o a repro (as we all know)
* [15:18] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Maybe the password.dat file is getting corrupted somehow
* [15:18] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  my theory is this... if sl hangs up on shutdown or crashes it can corrupt whatever file its suppsoed to save that in
* [15:18] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  mkay

* [15:19] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  and now back to our regularly scheduled program...
* [15:19] [[User:Calyps0 Janus|Calyps0 Janus]]:  hehe..may be right..plz ban me!  :-) 
* [15:19] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  hiya sel
* [15:20] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  I assume that can be edited out of the transcript
* [15:20] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Let's see if we can gather more info on VWR-2554
* [15:20] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  nods
* [15:20] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  Oh these brain lacking idiots... will they ever learn that griefing only gets them removed?
* [15:20] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  ahoy selena
* [15:20] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  hiya selena
* [15:20] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  good timing
* [15:20] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  if we have a solid repro, than import, but before then, it's just hard... though we could throw it at qa
* [15:21] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  nods
* [15:21] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda]
* [15:21] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  next up
* [15:21] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-7159[c
* [15:21] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7159
* [15:21] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  search keywords have been abused for a long time
* [15:22] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  this one seeems an easy one to fix. simply put two lines of coding in that the add doesnt psot if a word is repeated more then twixe in a row
* [15:22] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  Good idea
* [15:22] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  interestgin
* [15:23] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  and one that does the same for mroe then 10 spaces
* [15:23] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  i'll ping our local search Linden about this one ...
* [15:23] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Cummere, care to add your comments?
* [15:23] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  sure ...
* [15:23] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  ty
* [15:23] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Let's keep going
* [15:23] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8477[c
* [15:24] [[User:Calyps0 Janus|Calyps0 Janus]]:  7159: Fleche Zeno would be a good contact/resource for this..
* [15:24] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8477
* [15:24] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  It certainly does. Mi'es set to 500M, and was 2.9G last time i looked
* [15:24] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  ick
* [15:24] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  :O
* [15:25] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Let's import that one
* [15:25] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  definitely
* [15:25] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok
* [15:25] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Tyvm
* [15:25] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Next up
* [15:25] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8425[c
* [15:26] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8425
* [15:26] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  I love how so many reporters are including pictures and/or vids
* [15:26] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  yeah, import and possibly toss at andrew... though it might be a "won't fix"
* [15:26] [[User:Aimee Trescothick|Aimee Trescothick]]:  sounds like the beginnings of a fun new extreme sport
* [15:26] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  great repro steps
* [15:26] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  4) Rub some pain cream on your broken ankles
* [15:26] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  grins
* [15:26] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  hehehe
* [15:26] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  lol
* [15:26] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  i liked that part
* [15:26] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  lol
* [15:27] [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]]:  heh
* [15:27] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  at least its good to have a sense of humor
* [15:27] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  I tried this the same place teh pics were taken, did not do it for me
* [15:27] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Yes, let's send to Core Triage and see what Andrew sayeth
* [15:27] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  Very nice, that is an issue that can hurt Roleplayers looks are everything
* [15:27] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok
* [15:27] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  ghost prims, perhaps?
* [15:28] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Add your experience in comment Harleen?
* [15:28] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  hmms
* [15:28] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  will do
* [15:28] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  heh had to point an admin to that one they banned a palyer they thought was using a flight feather. jira comes in handy soemtimes
* [15:28] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  let's skip VWR-8340, I meant to take it off the agenda
* [15:29] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Let's go on to...
* [15:29] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8482[c
* [15:29] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8482
* [15:29] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  well i cant repo it, but generally if soemthign cant be turned off thats a bad thing?
* [15:30] [[User:Aimee Trescothick|Aimee Trescothick]]:  can repro
* [15:30] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  suppose i really should get a joystick lol
* [15:30] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  import and toss to runitai?
* [15:30] [[User:Bri Gufler|Bri Gufler]]:  just reproed for me as well.
* [15:31] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Sounds good Zen
* [15:31] [[User:Aimee Trescothick|Aimee Trescothick]]:  might have a look at doing a patch for that if I get a chance, should be an easy one
* [15:31] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  patches rock
* [15:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Next up...
* [15:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8557[c
* [15:32] [[User:Aimee Trescothick|Aimee Trescothick]]:   :) 
* [15:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8557
* [15:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  cool Aimee
* [15:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  A screen shot would be great here...
* [15:32] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  seriously
* [15:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  anyone else seen this?
* [15:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  nope
* [15:32] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  wb sel
* [15:33] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  first time hearing about this one
* [15:33] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  I have not but i suspect driver issue
* [15:33] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  crashed like bill gate's windows ME driven car on the trojan horse virus in the hottest pits of hell
* [15:33] [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]]:  gfx card issue?
* [15:33] [[User:Aimee Trescothick|Aimee Trescothick]]:  weird
* [15:33] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Well, let's leave it and see if we get some pix...thx for request McCabe
* [15:33] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Possibly, Yuu
* [15:33] [[User:Aimee Trescothick|Aimee Trescothick]]:  interesting to know if they are appearing that way to other people or just to themselves
* [15:33] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Jay Leno effect?
* [15:33] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  yeah thats what im thinking. can we also ask the other guy for his sys specks?
* [15:33] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  grins
* [15:33] [[User:Aimee Trescothick|Aimee Trescothick]]:  LOL
* [15:34] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  boooooooooo
* [15:34] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  anyway.. if we're talking about what i think we are.. then pics?
* [15:34] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  hehe
* [15:34] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  nods her normal sized jaw
* [15:34] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  mccabe already asked them for some sel
* [15:34] [[User:Bri Gufler|Bri Gufler]]:  I do notice its 64-bit Windows XP - for kicks I tried SL on XP 64 and noticed some bizarre rendering.
* [15:34] [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]]:  yeah change to 'needs pics'
* [15:34] [[User:Bri Gufler|Bri Gufler]]:  so it could be the 64-bit drivers?
* [15:34] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  i think system specks for the second guy would be helpful too
* [15:34] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  hmms
* [15:34] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  warkirby's pretty knowledgable about things
* [15:35] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Where's WK been anyway?
* [15:35] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  he's around
* [15:35] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Other requests for info would be great too, thx
* [15:35] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I see him in various forums
* [15:35] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Next up...
* [15:35] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8577[c
* [15:35] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8577
* [15:35] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  This has been observed on 1.20.15, but it's much more obvious on aditi / Mono 1.20 viewer. I asked Vektor about it and he said: [14:42
* [15:36] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  hmmm
* [15:36] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  really, hmm
* [15:36] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  I suspect then that the Mono team is aware of this and is linke to their meta issue...
* [15:36] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  yeah
* [15:37] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  a note on their foreheads reading "fix it fix it fix it"?
* [15:37] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  um should we still import and assign to them?
* [15:37] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  I'll just make sure they know about it, as they don't always import straight away
* [15:38] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  ok well i vote then we at least comment and say we looked at it
* [15:38] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  yup
* [15:38] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I will mark with Last Triaged date
* [15:38] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Gold Sart for point of order, Cummere
* [15:38] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  pulls out a sticky pad and hands it to Bridie "Here ya go.. more effective with a sticky pad"
* [15:38] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:   :) 
* [15:38] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Next up
* [15:38] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8468[c
* [15:38] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8468
* [15:39] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  ok dumb question... but why would a hud NEED to be linked to group?
* [15:39] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  ya. when you change groups its not updated for attachments
* [15:39] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ya, that was my question too
* [15:39] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Personally, I wouldn't expect the group to change unless I detached and re-attached
* [15:39] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  to run scripts on parcels that are set to a group?
* [15:39] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  and as squirrle said its all attachments not jsut huds
* [15:39] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  I have huds which check llSameGroup
* [15:39] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  not a dumb question cuz I have no clue
* [15:40] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  group info on attachments should update when you change groups
* [15:40] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Or your HUD could rez an object that needs to be set to group to avoid auto-return
* [15:40] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  I think the problem is that you have the option to change it (it's not greyed out), but if you try, it snaps back to the old value
* [15:40] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  Hmm.. are they sure it's not just tht hud?
* [15:40] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  That's only point 14
* [15:40] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  several building tools use huds to rez objects
* [15:41] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  yes harleen, I think everthing else is expected behaviour
* [15:41] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  either way... i think import though im still not convinced of a need for a hud or attachment to change groups, since ti will do that if you unequip and reequip
* [15:41] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  repro steps are waaay too complex.
* [15:41] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  agreen squirrel
* [15:41] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  nods
* [15:41] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  agreed*
* [15:41] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  16!
* [15:41] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  just attach, notice group, change group, notice its still set to the old group. reattach, its in the proper group
* [15:41] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  well.. it could be that individual hud is coded wrong..
* [15:42] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  its not a script issue
* [15:42] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  nah it does that to all attachments
* [15:42] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  17. Rub some pain cream on your broken brain
* [15:42] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  lol
* [15:42] [[User:Bri Gufler|Bri Gufler]]:   :) 
* [15:42] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  not jsut huds. i say add a comment it affects all attachments and import
* [15:42] [[User:Joeseph Albanese|Joeseph Albanese]]:  needs less info
* [15:42] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  lol Joe
* [15:42] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Can someone update with a simpelr repro?
* [15:42] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  hahahaha
* [15:42] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  simpler even
* [15:43] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  Needs more asprin for repo steps
* [15:43] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  agreed with that; I can update with a better repro
* [15:43] [[User:Yuu Nakamichi|Yuu Nakamichi]]:  laughs out loud
* [15:43] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Thx McCabe
* [15:43] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Moving right along...
* [15:43] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-7337[c
* [15:44] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7337
* [15:44] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  early .20 rcs did that to me
* [15:45] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Let's get some system info
* [15:45] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  I haven't heard of this one before
* [15:45] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  Need system info, I do agree
* [15:45] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  yeah.... um one more thing
* [15:45] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  lets ask if they ahve anything like searchbar, goole tool bar etc isntalled
* [15:45] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Though, VWR-8445 is with an Nvidia card...
* [15:45] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  *google
* [15:46] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  umm.. would that matter Cummere?
* [15:46] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  yes.
* [15:46] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  How? If this search is in the viewer?
* [15:46] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  hmmm... ppc
* [15:46] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  our search is based around google coding if i remember right and some of those toolbars break that coding
* [15:47] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  my explorer has those but i have no issues..
* [15:47] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  anyone else on ppc that can repro this?
* [15:47] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  i vaguely remember monroe working on ppc search related issues
* [15:47] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  should I ping him?
* [15:47] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  that does ring a bell Zen
* [15:48] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  yeah, it's worth asking him. It may all be resolved
* [15:48] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok
* [15:48] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  let's ask monroe about 8445 and resolve 7337 as needs more info
* [15:48] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  sound good?
* [15:48] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  nods
* [15:48] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  has google toolbar on his Firefox, but no such issue.
* [15:49] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  bridie i included a pic on the next one jsut for you :P
* [15:49] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  a'ight!
* [15:49] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Next up
* [15:49] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8541[c
* [15:49] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8541
* [15:50] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  doesn't repro for me
* [15:50] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  To be honest.. I had not checked that, all I have done on it is check video
* [15:50] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Cummere, do you see this just after you log in?
* [15:51] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  its nto a consistant thing as we disccussed in bsi the other night those of us tha have expereinced this
* [15:51] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  and um yeah if i remember to check for it
* [15:52] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  well, I've added myself as a watcher - let's see if we can narrow it down a bit
* [15:52] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  others keep an eye out, pls
* [15:52] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  for me its fine right now but it did it for me earlier. soemone also said it happens in .20 as well
* [15:52] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  I'll check later Cummere, see if it happens to me and all
* [15:52] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  i see
* [15:52] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Thx for picture Cummere!
* [15:52] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  yw
* [15:53] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Next one
* [15:53] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8536[c
* [15:53] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  now if soemoen teaches me how to caputre vidio ill video that bug :P
* [15:53] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8536
* [15:53] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  is there a tutorial for creating video repros on the wiki?
* [15:53] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  I use MSN all the time.. no issues.. have it on now..
* [15:53] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  can't repro
* [15:53] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I think torley has one Cummere
* [15:53] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  [http://torley.com/video-bug-reporting]
* [15:53] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  500k of ram....
* [15:54] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  tada!
* [15:54] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Torley to the rescue
* [15:54] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  yeah its low ram on that one but real high virtual. and its not a memory issue
* [15:54] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  yay for Torley!
* [15:54] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  that was my frist thougths too zen
* [15:55] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  cuase it does it to my pc as well
* [15:55] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  and i have over a gig of mem
* [15:55] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  Well..hmm...
* [15:55] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  hmmm
* [15:55] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  See if you can get a video please?
* [15:55] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  MSFT tech support?
* [15:55] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  j/k
* [15:55] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  hates the fact that our client needs more than 500k of ram... but also knows why
* [15:55] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  Microsoft tech.. that's like talking to a very stupid brick wall..
* [15:56] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  *Shrugs* surprisingly zen, i ahve relatively few issues with sl on my poor old laptop
* [15:56] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  good to hear
* [15:56] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  Took me 20 mins to cancle my xbox live account..
* [15:56] [[User:McCabe Maxsted|McCabe Maxsted]]:  aw, that's at least implying they're solid...
* [15:56] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  let's see if anyone else can repro and look for things in common...
* [15:56] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  the client likes to eat up the winbugs swap file :p
* [15:56] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  anyways i vote leave as is.... ill update if i can find more
* [15:56] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  ONe more?
* [15:56] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  shore!
* [15:56] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  Cummere, if you can.. video it?
* [15:56] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  suuuuuurreeeee
* [15:56] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8475[c
* [15:57] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8475
* [15:57] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Gold Sarts to Gellan for looking for dupes
* [15:57] [[User:Selena Beale|Selena Beale]]:  self censoring? that a bug or a PG catch all?
* [15:57] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  yeah, what i want to know is if it repros after clear cache AND re-bake
* [15:58] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Zen, would you comment?
* [15:58] [[User:Zen Linden|Zen Linden]]:  sure
* [15:58] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  hmmm
* [15:58] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  well, folks, another great session!
* [15:59] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Many many thanks!
* [15:59] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  i have a suggestion they might try as well
* [15:59] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  zen may i im you?
* [15:59] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Weeee an hour's passed
* [15:59] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  Woot!
* [15:59] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  so quick.
* [15:59] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  thank you for all your help and time!