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* [9:59] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  hi Alexa
* [10:00] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Morning.
* [10:00] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Good Morning :)
* [10:00] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  evening :P
* [10:00] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  :P
* [10:01] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  hi Benjamin
* [10:01] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Morning benjamin
* [10:01] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Hi Benjamin
* [10:01] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  hi all
* [10:01] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  we're having some technical difficulties
* [10:01] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  with Jira
* [10:02] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  I notice
* [10:02] [[User:Saijanai Dagger|Saijanai Dagger]]:  hey Benjamin. Sorry, multitasking with ZHa's group meeting
* [10:02] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  no problem Sai, it's going to be a few minutes before we get started
* [10:02] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  hi Kooky
* [10:03] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  wheres that damn squirrel?
* [10:03] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  and morning Ben
* [10:03] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  does the Squirrel summoning dance.
* [10:03] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  Alexa too
* [10:04] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Alexa is here.
* [10:04] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  sorry guys we're just trying to get jira up and running
* [10:04] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  hi Squirrel
* [10:04] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Hey Squirrel!
* [10:04] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  I see, was saying hi
* [10:04] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  it's doing a re-indexing
* [10:04] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  shoot the squirrel!
* [10:04] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  hi Aric
* [10:04] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  hi Aric
* [10:04] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noOoOooO
* [10:04] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Tada, z Squirrel!
* [10:04] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  heya Daedalus
* [10:04] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  yellow
* [10:04] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  guess no point in trying to log into it then
* [10:05] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  it's at 100% for a good while now
* [10:05] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  hey Aric
* [10:05] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  hi Benjamin
* [10:05] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Morning Aric
* [10:05] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  and we're back :)
* [10:05] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  Hi Wyn
* [10:05] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  we're having some jira issues this morning
* [10:05] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  wb
* [10:05] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  JIRA is back
* [10:05] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  No? Jira? problems?
* [10:05] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I can't believe that.
* [10:05] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  lol
* [10:05] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  smirks at his own sarcasm
* [10:05] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok great thanks Daedalus
* [10:06] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  They were sweeping the crumbs under the rug.
* [10:06] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I'm re-running our query right quick to see if anything new jumps out
* [10:06] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  but of course it's going dog-slow
* [10:06] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  wants to throw Squirrel into the Aperature Science Emergency Incenerator!
* [10:06] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  k
* [10:06] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  Just run off last weeks Ben, we got tons we never hit
* [10:06] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Aric, I have all but 3 of your items done from yesterday and the minutes posted
* [10:06] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  What did Squirrel do?
* [10:07] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  this is the query, fyi
* [10:07] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=10470
* [10:07] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I'm going to be multi-tasking
* [10:07] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  Thanks Alexa. I'm about to go through those and reassign 'em. you done great.
* [10:07] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  yes we can do that Kooky but I wanted to see if there were any patches we wanted to check out
* [10:07] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  looks like there are three pathces
* [10:07] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  patches rather
* [10:08] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  should we take a look at those first, even though they're not on the agenda?
* [10:08] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1286
* [10:08] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  Alexa, can you add these to the agenda? you can just grab the number for now and we'll get the details later
* [10:09] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  yes
* [10:09] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  Ah. the camera patch ^^
* [10:09] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  backs that one with a passion.
* [10:09] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  Gigs finished it, but as he says:
* [10:09] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  "Richard Linden has provided feedback on this patch. He rejected the idea of being able to pan through the focus prim, and also not munging the center. I will add these constraints back in. The center munging one is easy to add back, the no-clip one is pretty hard, but I have some ideas how to do it."
* [10:10] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  yes, I remember seeing some discussion about this on sldev
* [10:10] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I guess we'll leave it as-is for now since it doesn't sound like it's ready to import
* [10:10] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  I would prefer to not be hindered by prims when zooming... it is quite a pain to have to delink an object and pull the prims apart just to be able to focus on a prim that is hidden or covered by another
* [10:11] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noted
* [10:11] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  agrees with Squirrel.
* [10:11] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  Squirrel, does that affect how this patch should be designed?
* [10:11] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I admit to being a little fuzzy on the details
* [10:12] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  rez a prim, make it hollow and then focus on the inner face of it from above. then move the camera down so the outer face is between the focused face and the camera.
* [10:12] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  the camera will spring back to focus the outter face.
* [10:13] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  When zooming in close it can also cause the camera to spin off and you end up with a view you didn't expect.
* [10:13] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ah I see
* [10:13] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  yup
* [10:13] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  It's pretty annoying.
* [10:13] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  and you want to be able to inspect the inside
* [10:13] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  drives me nuts when building
* [10:13] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  Yes.
* [10:14] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Glad I don't get motion sickness.
* [10:14] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok
* [10:14] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  LOL!
* [10:14] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  what about if its cut
* [10:14] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  there were some nitpicky details on the sldev discussion
* [10:14] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  I use a lot of hollow cut and twisted prims.
* [10:14] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  it's the same way
* [10:14] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  I mean if it snaps back outside on cuts, then why are we patching it?
* [10:14] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  it sounds like the patch is almost being written for current behaviure?
* [10:15] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  this is very strange, the server is accepting about half of the clicks I make to change the object
* [10:15] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  the patch is to allow focus on the hollow side
* [10:15] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  now the hollow bit is ignored basically
* [10:15] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  you can zoom in and keep the view focused if the camera is in the cut part.
* [10:15] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  anyway, if you folks want to add your thoughts to the bug (if you haven't already) that would be helpful
* [10:15] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Without the camera going snap off to some weird place.
* [10:15] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  the camera is not allowed -inside- the prim, no matter if it's hollowed or not
* [10:15] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  but it will spring back if there is an outer section between it and the focus point
* [10:16] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok we probably don't need to continue discussing this one here
* [10:17] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  agreed
* [10:17] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  if you have further thoughts on it, please add to jira
* [10:17] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  thanks
* [10:17] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  moving on
* [10:17] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2807
* [10:17] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  adding
* [10:18] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  ah yes, I noticed that too
* [10:18] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  so this broke in RC?
* [10:18] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  because it appears to be working in the gold client
* [10:19] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  yes, iirc, previous rc it was still working, broke in current one
* [10:19] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  interesting, I'm surprised Jacek did a patch for a regression
* [10:19] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  in any case, I think we should go ahead and import it
* [10:20] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  import for testing
* [10:20] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  Hmm I've seen this issue before myself
* [10:20] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noted
* [10:20] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  yes, looks good
* [10:20] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  though its not happening right now
* [10:20] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  yes, it's happening for me now
* [10:20] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  only counts my own avatar
* [10:21] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  in v 1.18.4
* [10:21] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I'm taking notes and will do importing as I do for Aric's meetings
* [10:21] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  thanks Alexa
* [10:21] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  np
* [10:21] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok here's next up
* [10:21] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2681
* [10:21] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  adding
* [10:22] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  looks like nothing new since Torley's last comment
* [10:22] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  yes, I wonder if I should ping Matthew on this
* [10:23] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  alright well we'll leave it here for now
* [10:23] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  want me to pping him?
* [10:23] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  and leave as-is until posted response?
* [10:23] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  sure, that'd be great Alexa
* [10:23] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noted
* [10:24] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok let's jump back to our agenda and knock off the remaining bugs from last week
* [10:24] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/UI_Agenda
* [10:25] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  first up
* [10:25] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1893
* [10:25] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  VWR-1893
* [10:25] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  control-shift-1 in linux places '!' in chat window
* [10:25] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  Maybe a good one for OS?
* [10:26] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  ahh, it's time to get some RL food again
* [10:26] [[User:Daedalus Young|Daedalus Young]]:  see you guys later!
* [10:26] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  is anyone here using linux?
* [10:26] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  I don't have a linux box to test this on
* [10:26] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  thanks Daedalus!
* [10:26] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Bye Daed!
* [10:27] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  Aric, if we import this can your team have a look at it?
* [10:27] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  Yes, gladly, please assign it to me with a note asking for us to repro
* [10:27] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noted
* [10:27] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  thanks Aric
* [10:27] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok next
* [10:27] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1930
* [10:27] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  Ben, while we discuss VWR-1930 can we also touch on VWR-2650 (lower in itinerary) Since these two bugs are definately linked. I didn't quite think 2650 counts as a dupe in and of itself, but maybe you disagree?
* [10:27] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Gesture activation fails to check for conflicting shortcut keys
* [10:28] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  1930 is not a bug. its by design as the voice gestures take advantage of that behavior
* [10:28] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  But it was also a change to the "Expected Behavior"
* [10:28] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  I have gestures set up so that I can add them by folders, and expect the duplicates to be removed, so it broke a bunch for me
* [10:28] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  if you have several gestures active that have the same trigger key or word, one of them will be randomly picked
* [10:29] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  and call me crazy, but when is "random" good when your dealing with shortcuts?
* [10:29] [[User:Saijanai Dagger|Saijanai Dagger]]:  but is that by design, or juts coincidence?
* [10:29] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  well in the case of the voice gestures random makes sense to make it seem more natural
* [10:30] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  but I'm not sure if that needs to have an impact on the keyboard shortcuts
* [10:30] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  look at the voice gestures. they trigger on /voicelevel1, and /voicelevel3 and there's several that use the same trigger
* [10:30] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  I don't use voice so I have no experiance with the voice gestures
* [10:30] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  oh Squirrel you're saying the voice gestures use the same trigger
* [10:30] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  Yes
* [10:30] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  there's five or six for voicelebel 1
* [10:30] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  level even
* [10:30] [[User:Saijanai Dagger|Saijanai Dagger]]:  gotta take son to doctor, but updated WIP video: [http://blip.tv/file/438493]
* [10:30] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  what are they? gestures that are activated by speach or?
* [10:31] [[User:Saijanai Dagger|Saijanai Dagger]]:  later all
* [10:31] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Bye Saij
* [10:31] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  by Sai, good luck
* [10:31] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  see ya sai
* [10:31] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  you drag the voice gestures on your avatar and then, when you speak they are triggered
* [10:31] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  depending on the volume
* [10:31] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  drag them on? so they are a 1 shot per drag or?
* [10:31] [[User:Saijanai Dagger|Saijanai Dagger]]:  /afk
* [10:31] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  And look like a certain gecko
* [10:31] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  you can either drag them onto the avatar or just activate them. same difference
* [10:32] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  hmm
* [10:32] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  Well, I've never drug any gesture so.....
* [10:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  lol
* [10:32] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  we should import this and assign to someone on the voice team to verify if this is by design
* [10:32] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  dragging a gesture to me doesn't seem intuitive either unless we're all for "drag to activate/use"
* [10:33] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  and if its by voice design, I suggest undoing it for keyboard shortcuts
* [10:33] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  yes, we should ask if the two need to be dependent
* [10:33] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  oohh wait, idea.... How about a new checkbox: "Can share trigger" that would allow it to "share" a trigger, and if so, "randomly" share or "simultanious" share
* [10:33] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  Kooky, what would you suggest if there are overlapping gestures
* [10:33] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  haha ok
* [10:33] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  I say the old way, deactivate duplicate
* [10:33] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Doesn't make sense that they are connected.
* [10:33] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  its a well expected process
* [10:34] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  what about "Hey! There's another gesture with the same trigger! Want to deactivate that one? <yes><no>" ?
* [10:34] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  so if you assign a duplicate shortcut it automatically deactivates the other ones?
* [10:34] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  I would ask the user if it should be deactivated
* [10:34] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  Kooky, did it used to work that way, prior to voice?
* [10:34] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  because random execution don't work for a lot of things, for example, all my weapons work on gestures, so changing weapons changes gestures but they are all similarly triggered with different executions (so F12 draws my guns on all of them, but they each have their own command)
* [10:35] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  yes
* [10:35] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  Kooky can you add that comment to these bugs?
* [10:35] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  If you activated a gesture with an matching trigger, it would deactivate the existing one in favor of the newly activated.
* [10:35] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  Alexa, we should import the Kooky's related bug and link it
* [10:35] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  they both have useful discussion
* [10:35] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noted
* [10:35] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  thanks
* [10:36] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  Kooky please add your thoughts and we'll investigate it
* [10:36] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok next up
* [10:36] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1953
* [10:36] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  After encountering a login error, viewer gets stuck partially loaded
* [10:37] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  gah, this screenshot is taking forever to load
* [10:37] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I've never seen this particular behavior, have you Aric?
* [10:39] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  I have seen that error a couple times but never that behavior
* [10:39] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  well it does have screenshots I suppose we should go ahead and import
* [10:39] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  please assign to triage, Alexa
* [10:39] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noted
* [10:39] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok next
* [10:39] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2063
* [10:40] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  clicking window X button multiple times behaves strangely
* [10:40] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  f you have "Skip this dialog next time" enabled for the quit confirmation dialog, go into preferences and re-enable the dialog. 1. Click the X button (or equivalent) to close SL. 2. Do it again. And again. Go wild. Results: You get a "ding" every time you click it, and if you click "continue", you're reprompted immediately with another quit dialog. A cosmetic problem, but probably not quite right.
* [10:40] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I'm not sure I understand
* [10:41] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  me neither :P
* [10:41] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  is Lex saying the "are you sure" dialog shows up over and over?
* [10:41] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  I think it's like this action was already done so don't do it again.
* [10:41] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  ding
* [10:41] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  basically if you close the quit question dialog by clicking the X in the top right corner of the window, it does not abort properly
* [10:41] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  oh that X
* [10:41] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I thought he meant the checkbox
* [10:41] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  that's how I understand it
* [10:42] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  The corner close dialog x, yes.
* [10:42] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  there is no x in that dialog
* [10:42] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  gets it sometimes on her desktop because it's slow to respond.
* [10:42] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  do you mean on the window?
* [10:42] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  means window.
* [10:42] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I'm only seeing the expected behavior, I don't understand what the issue is
* [10:43] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  I think it's expected too.
* [10:43] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I clicked the red x in the main SL window
* [10:43] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I get the confirm to quit dialog
* [10:43] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  hit continue and it goes away
* [10:43] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  am I missing something?
* [10:43] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  try not to hit continue but the corner X of the dialog ?
* [10:43] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  of the dialog or the window?
* [10:44] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  there is no x in the dialog
* [10:44] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  the dialofg
* [10:44] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  hmm
* [10:44] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  then try the window again
* [10:44] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  while die dialog is open
* [10:44] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  the..
* [10:44] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  oh I see
* [10:44] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  What version of the client is this? it looks older?
* [10:44] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  yeah it pops multiple confirmation dialogs
* [10:44] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  even though the dialog is supposed to be modal
* [10:45] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  we can import this, small priority
* [10:45] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  assign to triage
* [10:45] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noted
* [10:46] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I'm going to add a quick note to this one that it's more than a cosmetic problem
* [10:46] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok next up
* [10:46] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2094
* [10:46] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Strange dark box appears and blocks the mouse
* [10:46] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  Daedalus Young - 23/Oct/07 10:14 AM Added JPEG version of attached BMP file. That is a Debug window. Go to Client > Consoles and uncheck Memory :) [ Show » 
* [10:46] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  /oh I know this one
* [10:47] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  its been present since 1.16
* [10:47] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I read this one too
* [10:47] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  its Ctrl-Shift-0
* [10:47] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  really? I've never experienced it before
* [10:47] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  its a debug dialog that is blank
* [10:47] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  technically not a bug then
* [10:47] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  so I'm guessing not a bug, just undocumented feature
* [10:47] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  so someone accidentally opened a debug console?
* [10:47] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  yeah we should close this one
* [10:48] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  well
* [10:48] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  maybe its a bug that its blank?
* [10:48] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  since thats the "Memory Console"
* [10:48] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  wb wyn
* [10:48] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Wyn :) WB
* [10:48] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  kooky how do you know for sure that's what it is?
* [10:48] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  from the size?
* [10:48] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  Client / Consoles
* [10:48] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  it says right there
* [10:48] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  below fast timers
* [10:48] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  oh I see, it's always blank?
* [10:48] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  yep
* [10:49] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  haha ok
* [10:49] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  well if someone wants to file a bug about that, fine
* [10:49] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  hahaha sure, wth....
* [10:49] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  we should close this one though
* [10:49] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  I'll close it out
* [10:49] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  Mayhaps the debug console windows should be rendered with a distinct border around them ?
* [10:49] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok
* [10:49] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  then I'll link it to the new bug
* [10:49] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  the debug tools in general don't get as much attention, because their not intended for mainstream users
* [10:50] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  like, an ant trail around the window...
* [10:50] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  I agree they have tons of usability issues Squirrel
* [10:50] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  LOL Squirrel
* [10:50] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok next up
* [10:50] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2094
* [10:50] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Sunset Shortcut triggers Beacon Shortcut
* [10:51] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  oops sorry
* [10:51] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2651
* [10:51] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  really easy repro :)
* [10:51] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  Well..
* [10:52] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  keep holding down control, release shift, press shoft again. beacons turn off.
* [10:52] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  shift.. gah. typos.
* [10:52] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  haha..
* [10:52] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  interesting Squirrel
* [10:52] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  hadn't tried that
* [10:52] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  but I think even with funny key play, this shouldn't be happening
* [10:52] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  besides there is some text at the bottom right corner of the screen while beacons are active
* [10:52] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  are others able to repro this?
* [10:53] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  oh yes I just saw it
* [10:53] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  yes
* [10:53] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  it looks like we have a shortcut overlap
* [10:53] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  control n actually toggles the beacons
* [10:54] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  but why is Shift-Ctrl-N triggering it?
* [10:54] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  we should import this, it's odd
* [10:54] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  yeah I agree
* [10:54] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  triage?
* [10:54] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  since Ctrl-1 = focus, Shift-Ctrl-1 = Stat bar, and they arn't both executed
* [10:54] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  ctrl-n <= I guess shift is not checked there
* [10:55] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  yes, assign to triage please
* [10:55] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  noted
* [10:56] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  oh the next one is Kooky's related bug
* [10:56] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  which we already imported
* [10:56] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  yup
* [10:56] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  did it get imported Alexa, I'm not seeing the internal ID
* [10:57] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I'll do them all after the meeting
* [10:57] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ah ok
* [10:57] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Jira's too slow to make notes and import at the same time :P
* [10:57] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  haha yes
* [10:57] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  we'll finish a little early today
* [10:57] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  ok let's wrap up with that folks
* [10:57] [[User:Kooky Jetaime|Kooky Jetaime]]:  Whoo hoo
* [10:57] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  hmm out of order IMs
* [10:58] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  :-)
* [10:58] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Thank you everyone! if Jira is nice I'll have everything up in the next hour or so
* [10:58] [[User:Benjamin Linden|Benjamin Linden]]:  thanks all!
* [10:58] [[User:Wyn Galbraith|Wyn Galbraith]]:  Thank you.