Avatar 2.0 - Revision history

Rand Linden: /* Hair */

2012-02-13T18:10:50Z

Hair

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	There's no better way to improve hair without having some sort of segments of hair lockets, which used to create in 3Ds Max, Maya, Daz and any other high-ends software.		There's no better way to improve hair without having some sort of segments of hair lockets, which used to create in 3Ds Max, Maya, Daz and any other high-ends software.
	So for this case, we'll have to keep the "bubble" hair to support legacy avatars and pray for flexi feature support in Mesh instead. Allowing us to replace linden hair's model with user-created mesh prim without taking up Skull attachment point. This too, can be open for discussion.		So for this case, we'll have to keep the "bubble" hair to support legacy avatars and pray for flexi feature support in Mesh instead. Allowing us to replace linden hair's model with user-created mesh prim without taking up Skull attachment point. This too, can be open for discussion.

	~~[[Category:Avatar]]~~

Davido Chrome: /* Normal, Specular, & Displacement Mapping */

2012-01-09T21:34:16Z

Normal, Specular, & Displacement Mapping

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	*#Outfits		*#Outfits
	*#Oily Skins and more.		*#Oily Skins and more.

			How about something inspired by the Spore Creature creator?

	== Animation & Expression ==		== Animation & Expression ==

Vincent Nacon: warning note updated

2011-10-11T01:30:27Z

warning note updated

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Vincent Nacon at 01:28, 11 October 2011

2011-10-11T01:28:35Z

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	For extended shapes where current shape sliders in appearance are lacking finer details. Apposed one could tweak muscles details from buffed to wired, chubby to blob and folds, smooth to veins-popping-out, nipples density, furs, lizard-scales, bare to manly-hairy, with the help from DirectX/OpenGL shader effects (along with Normal, Specular, & Displacement mapping).		For extended shapes where current shape sliders in appearance are lacking finer details. Apposed one could tweak muscles details from buffed to wired, chubby to blob and folds, smooth to veins-popping-out, nipples density, furs, lizard-scales, bare to manly-hairy, with the help from DirectX/OpenGL shader effects (along with Normal, Specular, & Displacement mapping).

	Size also matters. Seawolf Dragons are known for portraying huge 'life size' (house size) dragons. Tinys and MicroAvatars are quite small. There is a sizable portion of SL who is enjoying a 'second childhood', and Avatar 2.0 sizes need more flexibility in range.

	== Body Physic ==		== Body Physic ==

Gianinni Babenco: /* Hair */ + Category:Avatar

2011-09-25T19:10:07Z

Hair: + Category:Avatar

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	There's no better way to improve hair without having some sort of segments of hair lockets, which used to create in 3Ds Max, Maya, Daz and any other high-ends software.		There's no better way to improve hair without having some sort of segments of hair lockets, which used to create in 3Ds Max, Maya, Daz and any other high-ends software.
	So for this case, we'll have to keep the "bubble" hair to support legacy avatars and pray for flexi feature support in Mesh instead. Allowing us to replace linden hair's model with user-created mesh prim without taking up Skull attachment point. This too, can be open for discussion.		So for this case, we'll have to keep the "bubble" hair to support legacy avatars and pray for flexi feature support in Mesh instead. Allowing us to replace linden hair's model with user-created mesh prim without taking up Skull attachment point. This too, can be open for discussion.

			[[Category:Avatar]]

Vincent Nacon: Added topic: Body Physic

2011-09-25T04:36:31Z

Added topic: Body Physic

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	Size also matters. Seawolf Dragons are known for portraying huge 'life size' (house size) dragons. Tinys and MicroAvatars are quite small. There is a sizable portion of SL who is enjoying a 'second childhood', and Avatar 2.0 sizes need more flexibility in range.		Size also matters. Seawolf Dragons are known for portraying huge 'life size' (house size) dragons. Tinys and MicroAvatars are quite small. There is a sizable portion of SL who is enjoying a 'second childhood', and Avatar 2.0 sizes need more flexibility in range.

			== Body Physic ==
			We have breasts, belly, and rear bottom ends body physic currently at the moment. However, we can not assign range of the body part to become flexible with movement.
			While keeping in mind this is only client-side physic, would have no physic interacting with world-in objects.

			The idea is to customize body physic to greater degree. Such as flabby arms, legs, ears, and maybe some melting mutilation zombie. Even old men have swagging jowls.

			I apposed a suggestion in using UV Mapping on RGB 128x128 textures to assign those body part with its assignment info toward nearest vertices.
			Ditching slider for gravity, which we always have the same gravity force. No point in using more gravity when you could properly tune each parts with the textures. Only keep one last slider for Max Effect to each texture assignments.

			{\| {{Prettytable}}
			\|- {{Hl2}}
			! Channels
			! Assignments
			\|-
			\| align="center" \| Red Channel \|\| Damping
			\|-
			\| align="center" \| Green Channel \|\| Spring
			\|-
			\| align="center" \| Blue Channel \|\| Gain
			\|-
			\| align="center" \| Alpha Channel \|\| Mass
			\|-
			\|}
			Texture size for this requirement should be 128x128 and not more. To keep traffic load lighter than it need to be.

	== Hair ==		== Hair ==

Romaq Rosher: /* Humanoid, Anthropomorphic, and Extended Shapes */

2011-09-14T04:01:35Z

Humanoid, Anthropomorphic, and Extended Shapes

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	For extended shapes where current shape sliders in appearance are lacking finer details. Apposed one could tweak muscles details from buffed to wired, chubby to blob and folds, smooth to veins-popping-out, nipples density, furs, lizard-scales, bare to manly-hairy, with the help from DirectX/OpenGL shader effects (along with Normal, Specular, & Displacement mapping).		For extended shapes where current shape sliders in appearance are lacking finer details. Apposed one could tweak muscles details from buffed to wired, chubby to blob and folds, smooth to veins-popping-out, nipples density, furs, lizard-scales, bare to manly-hairy, with the help from DirectX/OpenGL shader effects (along with Normal, Specular, & Displacement mapping).

			Size also matters. Seawolf Dragons are known for portraying huge 'life size' (house size) dragons. Tinys and MicroAvatars are quite small. There is a sizable portion of SL who is enjoying a 'second childhood', and Avatar 2.0 sizes need more flexibility in range.

	== Hair ==		== Hair ==

Vincent Nacon at 12:38, 1 September 2011

2011-09-01T12:38:07Z

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	{{Box\|Introduction\|We are often to ask ourselves who we are and why are you here, lacking a defined meaning to build our own persona as we came to existence in Second Life. We may choose limited set of default avatar's shape and skin, but are still bounded to the very same "Ruth" avatar mesh, which has plagued us so dearly since 2002. It may be hard to realize it has been 8 years since any improvement to avatar mesh. Only minor changes recently were new tattoo and alpha layers. In last 8 years, game technologies has changed numerous times, more than we can count. Model contents grew with such astounding details. Characters are becoming more realistic and packed with appeal outfits. To put it plainly, we're due for a new avatar mesh to keep up with today standards.		{{Box\|Introduction\|We are often to ask ourselves who we are and why are you here, lacking a defined meaning to build our own persona as we came to existence in Second Life. We may choose limited set of default avatar's shape and skin, but are still bounded to the very same "Ruth" avatar mesh, which has plagued us so dearly since 2002. It may be hard to realize it has been 8 years since any improvement to avatar mesh. Only minor changes recently were new tattoo and alpha layers. In last 8 years, game technologies has changed numerous times, more than we can count. Model contents grew with such astounding details. Characters are becoming more realistic and packed with appeal outfits. To put it plainly, we're due for a new avatar mesh to keep up with today standards.

Vincent Nacon: Updated suggestions and opening for discussion.

2011-09-01T12:37:47Z

Updated suggestions and opening for discussion.

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Vincent Nacon: /* File Memories Size */ grammar fix

2011-03-20T10:44:11Z

File Memories Size: grammar fix

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	While there are no concept how much more data in Avatar 2.0's shape file we would like, which could easily double up twice the setting and still stay below half of a megabyte.		While there are no concept how much more data in Avatar 2.0's shape file we would like, which could easily double up twice the setting and still stay below half of a megabyte.

	However, ~~surely~~ unlikely majority of residents wearing a mesh worth 300k polygons for casual social life. An educated guess of a typical average polygon count for a decent avatar mesh by today standard are roughly around 20,000 to 8,000 polygons, which brings file size down to 6-1 MB. Falcon & Nyx Linden have written their own compression packet which used for uploading DAE file to the server. Compression ~~Ratio~~ remains to be unseen for time being.		However, unlikely majority of residents wearing a mesh worth 300k polygons for casual social life. An educated guess of a typical average polygon count for a decent avatar mesh by today standard are roughly around 20,000 to 8,000 polygons, which brings file size down to 6-1 MB. Falcon & Nyx Linden have written their own compression packet which used for uploading DAE file to the server. Compression ratio percentage remains to be unseen for time being.

	The total memories size for Mesh Import may not weight as much, as far it goes not taking separate Mesh for all 3 customized Level of Details and its physical boundary unaccounted. May raise memories size up to 9-2MB (compression unaccounted for).

			Total memories size for Mesh Import may not weight as much, as far it goes not taking separate mesh for all 3 customized Level of Details (LOD) and its physical boundary box unaccounted. May raise memories size up to 9-2MB all together (compression unaccounted for).

	== Legacy & 2.0 Skin (UV Mapping) Support ==		== Legacy & 2.0 Skin (UV Mapping) Support ==