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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;This meeting was held on December 03rd, 2009  = Agenda =  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Please enter items here for discussion at the next meeting.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  * Discuss resolution of previous open items. * Updates ...&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;This meeting was held on December 03rd, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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= Agenda =&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Please enter items here for discussion at the next meeting.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Discuss resolution of previous open items.&lt;br /&gt;
* Updates&lt;br /&gt;
** How to get more people here and testing stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
* Releases&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Server/1.34 | 1.34.0]] - &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Coming Soon&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** 1.34.140297 out now&lt;br /&gt;
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Server/1.34&lt;br /&gt;
** https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Server/1.34_Beta_Test&lt;br /&gt;
* Any other business&lt;br /&gt;
** {{jira|SVC-4632}} - People getting past Estate and Land bans | Critical &amp;amp; 325 votes!&lt;br /&gt;
** per Agent script limits ?&lt;br /&gt;
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= Resolved Items =&lt;br /&gt;
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= Meeting Minutes =&lt;br /&gt;
* Lil entertained with his giant bear.&lt;br /&gt;
* Oskar got here late.&lt;br /&gt;
* Talked about resources on ADITI.&lt;br /&gt;
* Oskar and Lil will be attending the Core Triage weekly on AGNI.&lt;br /&gt;
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= Transcript =&lt;br /&gt;
Transcript of [[User:Oskar_Linden|Oskar Linden]]&amp;#039;s Beta Server Office Hour for December 03rd, 2009:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Oskar Linden: hey guys&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Oskar Linden: whew&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Oskar Linden: not too late&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Yann Dufaux: hey Oskar ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Drew Dwi: hellos&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Oskar Linden: lil what are you doing?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Drew Dwi: big o.O&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Psi Merlin: Hi Oskar&lt;br /&gt;
[15:04]  Lil Linden: Lil Linden Bear presides over this meeting&lt;br /&gt;
[15:05]  Oskar Linden: alright let me get my notes in order&lt;br /&gt;
[15:05]  Oskar Linden: sorry I&amp;#039;m late guys&lt;br /&gt;
[15:05]  xstorm Radek: Oskar thank you for helping me get in&lt;br /&gt;
[15:05]  Oskar Linden: I had a tattoo consultation :-D&lt;br /&gt;
[15:05]  Drew Dwi: is there an agenda on the wiki for this? :X&lt;br /&gt;
[15:05]  Yann Dufaux: my place! ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:05]  Yann Dufaux: hehe ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:05]  Oskar Linden: there is&lt;br /&gt;
[15:06]  Oskar Linden: let me pull that up&lt;br /&gt;
[15:06]  Drew Dwi: kk thanks&lt;br /&gt;
[15:06]  Oskar Linden: hey drew. I got you msg, but haven&amp;#039;t had a chacne to respond yet&lt;br /&gt;
[15:06]  Drew Dwi: no worries, figured you&amp;#039;d get around to it eventually&lt;br /&gt;
[15:06]  xstorm Radek: this beta server is not like it was back in 2005 or 6 or even 7&lt;br /&gt;
[15:06]  Oskar Linden: lil and I were talking just yesterday about aditi resources&lt;br /&gt;
[15:07]  Lil Linden: how was it back then?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:07]  Drew Dwi: laggggy!&lt;br /&gt;
[15:07]  xstorm Radek: you needed a viewer made for it to get in to it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:07]  Drew Dwi: I remember when voice came out on the beta grid&lt;br /&gt;
[15:07]  Drew Dwi: the thing was dying every 10 minutes cause so many people tried it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:07]  xstorm Radek: and you did crash a lot&lt;br /&gt;
[15:08]  Oskar Linden: it&amp;#039;s not that&lt;br /&gt;
[15:08]  xstorm Radek: so many anti voice people lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:08]  Oskar Linden: for office hours though we keep our meetings text only&lt;br /&gt;
[15:08]  Oskar Linden: here is the agenda, but it&amp;#039;s a tad out of date&lt;br /&gt;
[15:08]  Oskar Linden: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta_Server_Office_Hours&lt;br /&gt;
[15:08]  Drew Dwi: yea, no mean when it was first released, andd thanks&lt;br /&gt;
[15:08]  Oskar Linden: Lil and I have been hammered with 1.34 stuff&lt;br /&gt;
[15:09]  xstorm Radek: but this server is filled with lots of trash to to much trash&lt;br /&gt;
[15:09]  Psi Merlin: I first came over for mono - sort of been here ever since.&lt;br /&gt;
[15:09]  Drew Dwi: is it ok for me to add one thing to the end of that list?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:09]  Oskar Linden: let me update that real quick here&lt;br /&gt;
[15:09]  Oskar Linden: yes&lt;br /&gt;
[15:09]  Oskar Linden: under any other business&lt;br /&gt;
[15:09]  Drew Dwi: kk, adding now&lt;br /&gt;
[15:10]  Oskar Linden: so we didn&amp;#039;t meet last week because of thanksgiving&lt;br /&gt;
[15:10]  Oskar Linden: that&amp;#039;s why the page is out of date&lt;br /&gt;
[15:10]  Latif Khalifa: i see the rolling restart for 1.34 is scheduled for the next week&lt;br /&gt;
[15:10]  Oskar Linden: it is&lt;br /&gt;
[15:10]  Yann Dufaux: 1.34 stuff, i,m curious , do you have more coffee maker? ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:10]  Oskar Linden: lil do you have the link to the release notes handy?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:10]  Oskar Linden: and have they been updated? :-D&lt;br /&gt;
[15:10]  Lil Linden: yep, one sec&lt;br /&gt;
[15:11]  Lil Linden: https://wiki.lindenlab.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Server/1.34&lt;br /&gt;
[15:11]  Yann Dufaux: thanks lil ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:11]  Drew Dwi: access denied D:&lt;br /&gt;
[15:11]  Latif Khalifa: give me your password now xD&lt;br /&gt;
[15:11]  Lil Linden: haha&lt;br /&gt;
[15:11]  Drew Dwi: hee&lt;br /&gt;
[15:11]  Lil Linden: sorry one sec&lt;br /&gt;
[15:12]  Oskar Linden: ok I updated the page&lt;br /&gt;
[15:12]  Oskar Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Beta_Server_Office_Hours#Agenda&lt;br /&gt;
[15:12]  Lil Linden: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Server/1.34?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:12]  Xugu Madison: So, in short, you changed mostly stuff we can&amp;#039;t see? :)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:12]  Drew Dwi: kk, tack&amp;#039;d on my item in Any other business&lt;br /&gt;
[15:12]  Oskar Linden: so I have not created a sims to add to aditi page yet, but lil and I talked about that yesterday&lt;br /&gt;
[15:12]  Lil Linden: Pretty much :)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:13]  Psi Merlin: We should have some handy linfo/links for the beta servers on the OH wiki page - I&amp;#039;ll see about doing that later.&lt;br /&gt;
[15:13]  Yann Dufaux: oh, nice for the (???) i&amp;#039;m happy yay! ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:13]  Oskar Linden: that&amp;#039;s what server is though. a lot of stuff that you can&amp;#039;t see&lt;br /&gt;
[15:13]  Oskar Linden: we upgraded a lot of the deploy tools&lt;br /&gt;
[15:13]  Drew Dwi: yes, the mysterious simulator :P&lt;br /&gt;
[15:13]  Oskar Linden: but there&amp;#039;s no point calling that out since it has no effect&lt;br /&gt;
[15:13]  xstorm Radek: i see there is some thing going on with how the regions setup will be put down&lt;br /&gt;
[15:14]  Yann Dufaux: (the thing!)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:14]  Oskar Linden: we oftentimes put in little pieces of projects that won&amp;#039;t be made public for many months to come&lt;br /&gt;
[15:14]  Oskar Linden: the second link: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Server/1.34_Beta_Test&lt;br /&gt;
[15:14]  Oskar Linden: is where I try to call attention to the touched areas&lt;br /&gt;
[15:14]  xstorm Radek: Oskar will the regions have a 2 m space next to adult sims ?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:14]  Oskar Linden: to help you out&lt;br /&gt;
[15:15]  Oskar Linden: not that I know of xstorm&lt;br /&gt;
[15:15]  Oskar Linden: why?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:15]  Yann Dufaux: Server crash modes fixed (realy?)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:15]  Oskar Linden: yes yann&lt;br /&gt;
[15:15]  xstorm Radek: i see them on the test server&lt;br /&gt;
[15:15]  Oskar Linden: see what on what test server?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:15]  Yann Dufaux: yay, great! :D&lt;br /&gt;
[15:15]  xstorm Radek: a 2 m gap next to adult sims&lt;br /&gt;
[15:16]  Oskar Linden: what test server?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:16]  Psi Merlin: I&amp;#039;ve seenSnark crash a couple of times on Agni with 1.32 which is very unusual.&lt;br /&gt;
[15:16]  Oskar Linden: I can guess what that is Psi&lt;br /&gt;
[15:16]  Oskar Linden: and we&amp;#039;re working on it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:17]  Oskar Linden: Lil, what did we decide the resource allocation for sims looks like on ADITI?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:17]  Lil Linden: Not sure I know what you&amp;#039;re asking&lt;br /&gt;
[15:18]  Lil Linden: how many sims we have for each version?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:18]  Oskar Linden: yeah&lt;br /&gt;
[15:18]  Lil Linden: ah, it should be ~10sims&lt;br /&gt;
[15:18]  Psi Merlin: OK - I guess I&amp;#039;ll wait for a fix.&lt;br /&gt;
[15:18]  Lil Linden: for each old/current/next version&lt;br /&gt;
[15:18]  Oskar Linden: ~10 sims for each&lt;br /&gt;
[15:18]  Oskar Linden: I don&amp;#039;t think we need 10 for n-1&lt;br /&gt;
[15:19]  Oskar Linden: psi, it&amp;#039;s not really a simulator bug&lt;br /&gt;
[15:19]  Oskar Linden: I think it is hardware specific&lt;br /&gt;
[15:19]  Latif Khalifa: 1-2 should be sufficient&lt;br /&gt;
[15:19]  Lil Linden: that&amp;#039;s cool, we can spread &amp;#039;em out as necessary&lt;br /&gt;
[15:19]  Psi Merlin: Ah OK&lt;br /&gt;
[15:19]  Oskar Linden: psi: it&amp;#039;s kinda luck of the draw if you get those machines&lt;br /&gt;
[15:19]  Yann Dufaux: hey twisted!!&lt;br /&gt;
[15:20]  Oskar Linden: I guess we can talk about that later lil&lt;br /&gt;
[15:20]  xstorm Radek: why is the server seem to be copy at times ?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:20]  Oskar Linden: seem to copy?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:20]  xstorm Radek: chopy&lt;br /&gt;
[15:20]  Oskar Linden: well it could be any number of many things?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:20]  Oskar Linden: which viewer are you on radek?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:20]  Latif Khalifa: is it me or does lag seem to get worse and worse on agni? sim freezes etc&lt;br /&gt;
[15:20]  xstorm Radek: its like the cache is getting updated a lot&lt;br /&gt;
[15:21]  xstorm Radek: snowglobe&lt;br /&gt;
[15:21]  Drew Dwi: it only happen here?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:21]  Psi Merlin: Sim freezes build in number and duration over time Latif&lt;br /&gt;
[15:21]  Oskar Linden: this is the same question as &amp;quot;why is SL slow?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[15:21]  Latif Khalifa: Psi, i know, but with 1.32 they seem to get worse, faster&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  Oskar Linden: and it&amp;#039;s hard to say &amp;quot;it&amp;#039;s slow because of ...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  xstorm Radek: bs speed 10000&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  Alpha 5: speed is currently 1&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  Drew Dwi: try that little lag help thingy, it kinda tries to explain&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  xstorm Radek: bs speed 900&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  Alpha 5: speed is now 900&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  Latif Khalifa: Oskar, no this is the question &amp;quot;how come sim is designed in a single threaded giant loop that allows slow operations to lock it down for up to a minute&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  Oskar Linden: we have recently grouped together a team to investigate lag related issues&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  Yann Dufaux: Oska, somes sl have a pike of memory use .... with somes windows ...&lt;br /&gt;
[15:22]  Psi Merlin: Yes - I&amp;#039;ve seen that. I&amp;#039;ve also notices some odd patterns which could be sim, or som object.&lt;br /&gt;
[15:23]  Yann Dufaux: Oskar, sorry my typos ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:23]  Oskar Linden: np&lt;br /&gt;
[15:23]  xstorm Radek: copy and drift&lt;br /&gt;
[15:23]  Oskar Linden: I don&amp;#039;t know Latif&lt;br /&gt;
[15:23]  Yann Dufaux: and some people, have just 2048mb like me with windows 7, and two soft of sl open ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:23]  xstorm Radek: chopy and drift&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  Oskar Linden: drift?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  xstorm Radek: yes a little drift&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  Johan Laurasia: I think he means when an avie keeps walking&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  Yann Dufaux: car drift? lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  xstorm Radek: prim drift&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  Johan Laurasia: oh&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  Johan Laurasia: havent seen prim drift at all&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  Oskar Linden: physical prims?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:24]  Drew Dwi: I feel like we are playing a game, he says something and we all try to guess what he means xD&lt;br /&gt;
[15:25]  xstorm Radek: yes&lt;br /&gt;
[15:25]  xstorm Radek: physical&lt;br /&gt;
[15:25]  Johan Laurasia: perhaps the wind is blowing it?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:25]  Yann Dufaux: ah you talk about flying bus or flying subway? ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:25]  Oskar Linden: is that the viral physics hack?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:25]  Oskar Linden: I was looking for a pjira on that? anyone know what it is?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:25]  xstorm Radek: ? blowing me when i fly up ?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:26]  xstorm Radek: thats a new one&lt;br /&gt;
[15:26]  Johan Laurasia: yeah, no, I woudnt think wind would be a factor that, how much drift are we talking, and what attachement are you using to fly with?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:26]  Johan Laurasia: or vehicle&lt;br /&gt;
[15:26]  Yann Dufaux: cause some times, when the prims, or build cross an region the prims go to fly ㋡&lt;br /&gt;
[15:26]  xstorm Radek: im a avatar&lt;br /&gt;
[15:26]  Oskar Linden: I think he&amp;#039;s talking about the viral physics hack&lt;br /&gt;
[15:26]  xstorm Radek: not a vehicle&lt;br /&gt;
[15:27]  Oskar Linden: where avatars get pushed&lt;br /&gt;
[15:27]  xstorm Radek: that may be&lt;br /&gt;
[15:27]  Oskar Linden: it&amp;#039;s a havok 4 glitch&lt;br /&gt;
[15:27]  xstorm Radek: my avatar is faster than the norm&lt;br /&gt;
[15:27]  Oskar Linden: I was looking for the pjira last night but couldn&amp;#039;t find it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:28]  Johan Laurasia: so you&amp;#039;re wearing an attachement for flight assist&lt;br /&gt;
[15:28]  Object: Hello, Avatar!&lt;br /&gt;
[15:28]  Object: Hello, Avatar!&lt;br /&gt;
[15:28]  Oskar Linden: hi Tia&lt;br /&gt;
[15:28]  xstorm Radek: my avatar has a membrain that has a script that boosts all its movments&lt;br /&gt;
[15:28]  Tia Myrtle: hi&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  Oskar Linden: so do you guys get the notices when I send them out to the group on AGNI?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  xstorm Radek: hi&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  Drew Dwi: yes&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  Drew Dwi: thats how I made it here today :P&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  Oskar Linden: cool. :-)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  Latif Khalifa: yeah, me too hehe&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  xstorm Radek: im not part of that group how do i join it ?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  Oskar Linden: ok so last week when I sent out the list of regions that were running 1.34 you got it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:29]  Oskar Linden: just join the group Second Life BETA on agni&lt;br /&gt;
[15:30]  xstorm Radek: oh im part of the beta one lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:30]  xstorm Radek: we was talking about xstreet to day in it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:30]  Oskar Linden: right&lt;br /&gt;
[15:30]  xstorm Radek: till some one slap us in the back of the head&lt;br /&gt;
[15:30]  xstorm Radek: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:31]  Oskar Linden: it was more of a nudge&lt;br /&gt;
[15:31]  xstorm Radek: ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:31]  Latif Khalifa: i have LoLa monitor it for me since my group list is full :)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:31]  Oskar Linden: ah&lt;br /&gt;
[15:32]  Oskar Linden: so we might get one or two more revisions of 1.34 on here before release next week&lt;br /&gt;
[15:32]  Oskar Linden: couple minor bug fixes&lt;br /&gt;
[15:32]  Oskar Linden: so unless you guys find something major the 1.34 you see on here will roll to the grid next week&lt;br /&gt;
[15:32]  xstorm Radek: will that avatar havok glitch get fix ?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:32]  Oskar Linden: and by major I mean something that is newly broken since 1.32&lt;br /&gt;
[15:32]  Leyla Linden is Online&lt;br /&gt;
[15:33]  Oskar Linden: it won&amp;#039;t&lt;br /&gt;
[15:33]  Oskar Linden: I can&amp;#039;t even find the jira for it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:33]  Johan Laurasia: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:33]  xstorm Radek: damn&lt;br /&gt;
[15:33]  Drew Dwi: are only new things being fixed?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:33]  Leyla Linden is Offline&lt;br /&gt;
[15:33]  Oskar Linden: existing bug fixes have made it into 1.34&lt;br /&gt;
[15:34]  Oskar Linden: they have been part of 1.34&amp;#039;s code for weeks now&lt;br /&gt;
[15:34]  Drew Dwi: hmm, I don&amp;#039;t have enough access to try a repro on a bug I added to that &amp;#039;other items&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[15:34]  Oskar Linden: the only thing that is going to stop us from release is a showstopper bug that is newly introduced&lt;br /&gt;
[15:34]  xstorm Radek: :-S ok so what about the old bugs to do with Havok ?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:34]  Oskar Linden: well they will go into the queue&lt;br /&gt;
[15:35]  Oskar Linden: the viral drift issue concerns me&lt;br /&gt;
[15:35]  Oskar Linden: but no one can point me to a jira&lt;br /&gt;
[15:35]  Oskar Linden: in other news&lt;br /&gt;
[15:35]  xstorm Radek: hhhmmm great so may be i need to find out why&lt;br /&gt;
[15:36]  Oskar Linden: Lil and I are attending the core triage on tuesdays&lt;br /&gt;
[15:36]  Oskar Linden: so you get 1 more hours with your 2 favorite lindens&lt;br /&gt;
[15:36]  xstorm Radek: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:36]  Oskar Linden: that might change the scope of this meeting a bit&lt;br /&gt;
[15:36]  Johan Laurasia: the triage OH never seems to happen, there&amp;#039;s an eternal &amp;#039;OH canceled&amp;#039; sign there.&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  Oskar Linden: I think there&amp;#039;s a new sheriff in dodge&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  xstorm Radek: Oskar i wish to convert LIL to look like me he did not wish it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  xstorm Radek: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  Oskar Linden puts on his spurs and deputizes Lil&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  Latif Khalifa: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  Oskar Linden: don&amp;#039;t try to change lil xstorm&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  Lil Linden: hehe&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  Drew Dwi: core triage?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  Oskar Linden: yes&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  xstorm Radek: oh ok&lt;br /&gt;
[15:37]  Oskar Linden: a triage for bugs in server/core&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Drew Dwi: not public tho..&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Drew Dwi: ?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Oskar Linden: which isn&amp;#039;t what this meeting is&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Drew Dwi: oh&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Oskar Linden: oh&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Oskar Linden: I don&amp;#039;t know if it is public or not&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Drew Dwi: jinx&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Drew Dwi: and ah&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  Oskar Linden: hi yaseba&lt;br /&gt;
[15:38]  yaseba Farella: hello&lt;br /&gt;
[15:39]  Oskar Linden: i&amp;#039;m looking for that jira now&lt;br /&gt;
[15:39]  Drew Dwi: yea, I did a search and couldn&amp;#039;t find it&lt;br /&gt;
[15:40]  Oskar Linden: i&amp;#039;ll mess with it later&lt;br /&gt;
[15:41]  xstorm Radek: Oskar do not kelly ever work on the beta server any more ?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:41]  Oskar Linden: all the time&lt;br /&gt;
[15:41]  Oskar Linden: he&amp;#039;s just in the code not the grid&lt;br /&gt;
[15:41]  Oskar Linden: most of kelly&amp;#039;s work would be done at an earlier stage&lt;br /&gt;
[15:42]  Oskar Linden: by the time it gets to integration it is mostly qa and release until we find specific bugs&lt;br /&gt;
[15:42]  xstorm Radek: yes he is very smart&lt;br /&gt;
[15:42]  Oskar Linden: alright, so https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4632&lt;br /&gt;
[15:42]  JIRA-helper: [#SVC-4632] People getting past Estate and Land bans&lt;br /&gt;
[15:42]  xstorm Radek: i was thinking i bet he knows why there is that havok bug&lt;br /&gt;
[15:43]  Oskar Linden: I just want to find the jira so I can follow the paper trail and see why it&amp;#039;s not been fixed yet&lt;br /&gt;
[15:44]  Drew Dwi: alexa said they were looking at it.... but that was like... a month ago&lt;br /&gt;
[15:44]  Oskar Linden: there is probably a fix pending for 1.32&lt;br /&gt;
[15:44]  Oskar Linden: I mean 1.36&lt;br /&gt;
[15:44]  xstorm Radek: :-)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:45]  Oskar Linden: I don&amp;#039;t think they got it ready in time for 1.34&lt;br /&gt;
[15:45]  Oskar Linden: I had to cut the line sometime&lt;br /&gt;
[15:45]  Oskar Linden: my team is hammered as it is&lt;br /&gt;
[15:45]  Drew Dwi nods&lt;br /&gt;
[15:45]  xstorm Radek: they need to give it a name&lt;br /&gt;
[15:45]  Drew Dwi: bans not working though .... bigg problem :)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:46]  Drew Dwi: i&amp;#039;m just good knowing its been worked on though&lt;br /&gt;
[15:46]  Johan Laurasia: tough to reproduce, not alot of people have estate privs on 3 or more sims&lt;br /&gt;
[15:46]  xstorm Radek: thats reminds me some one needs to make ban lines go up higher&lt;br /&gt;
[15:46]  Drew Dwi: there&amp;#039;s a pretty good repro in there&lt;br /&gt;
[15:46]  Drew Dwi: can&amp;#039;t test on here though&lt;br /&gt;
[15:47]  Oskar Linden: what are you trying to test Drew?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:47]  Drew Dwi: if its not fixed in this version, nothing to test though&lt;br /&gt;
[15:47]  Yann Dufaux is Offline&lt;br /&gt;
[15:48]  Oskar Linden: ok&lt;br /&gt;
[15:48]  Oskar Linden: anybody else?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:49]  Latif Khalifa: free cookies? xD&lt;br /&gt;
[15:50]  Lil Linden: mmmmm!&lt;br /&gt;
[15:51]  Oskar Linden: I could use a massage&lt;br /&gt;
[15:51]  Oskar Linden: and some eggnog&lt;br /&gt;
[15:51]  Oskar Linden: with peppermint schnapps&lt;br /&gt;
[15:51]  Lil Linden: sounds like a party&lt;br /&gt;
[15:51]  Latif Khalifa: hehe&lt;br /&gt;
[15:51]  Oskar Linden: some triple chocolate cookies from the bakery across the street&lt;br /&gt;
[15:52]  Latif Khalifa: you&amp;#039;re in the seattle office?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:52]  Oskar Linden: I am&lt;br /&gt;
[15:52]  Johan Laurasia: is it raining?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:52]  Oskar Linden: actually it isn&amp;#039;t!&lt;br /&gt;
[15:52]  Oskar Linden: that makes me think&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Johan Laurasia: well, u know what that means...&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  xstorm Radek: last time i have ever been to a party was back in 1977 at a telex meeting&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Oskar Linden: I want to create a weather bot&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Oskar Linden: when it is raining in Seattle it rains above my avatar&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Latif Khalifa: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Johan Laurasia: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Oskar Linden: I think that would be awesome&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Johan Laurasia: would be cool&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Latif Khalifa: it&amp;#039;s not disimal to danish climate i guess&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Oskar Linden: a live weather bot that made it the weather of your RL alt in SL&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Latif Khalifa: does it snow there?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:53]  Oskar Linden: it snows here&lt;br /&gt;
[15:54]  Johan Laurasia: the hard part is linking to a web page that&amp;#039;ll let you snag the info&lt;br /&gt;
[15:54]  Oskar Linden: great, I just gave a killer idea to you guys... now my SL alt will never get to make it in time&lt;br /&gt;
[15:54]  Twisted Laws: i want an RL weather bot so the weather on me is the same as in SL :p&lt;br /&gt;
[15:54]  Latif Khalifa: we get a couple of days of snow i year, not much&lt;br /&gt;
[15:54]  Latif Khalifa: (here being denmark)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:54]  Johan Laurasia: we get a couple of days at a time here...lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:54]  Oskar Linden: we get a little bit of snow&lt;br /&gt;
[15:55]  Latif Khalifa: lola, do you like snow?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:55]  LoLa Varriale: Only when it melts.&lt;br /&gt;
[15:55]  Lil Linden needs to run&lt;br /&gt;
[15:55]  Oskar Linden: ok lil&lt;br /&gt;
[15:55]  Lil Linden: will see you guys next week :)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Latif Khalifa: take care lil&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Oskar Linden: I guess we can draw this meeting to a close&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Lil Linden: Adios all!&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Twisted Laws: bye, cya later&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Lil Linden is Offline&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Johan Laurasia: It only rains twice a year in Seattle: August through April and May through July.&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  xstorm Radek: bye&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Oskar Linden: so we&amp;#039;ve got probably til Monday/Sunday to find any amazing bugs in 1.34&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Oskar Linden: Seattle Rain Festival: January 1st - December 31st&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Johan Laurasia: heh&lt;br /&gt;
[15:56]  Latif Khalifa: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[15:57]  Johan Laurasia: I heard if you can see the mountains, it&amp;#039;s gonna rain, and if you can&amp;#039;t it&amp;#039;s raining&lt;br /&gt;
[15:57]  Oskar Linden: good point&lt;br /&gt;
[15:57]  Drew Dwi: last quick q, that core triage you mentioned, thats not an office hour right?&lt;br /&gt;
[15:57]  Oskar Linden: i can see the mountains&lt;br /&gt;
[15:57]  Psi Merlin: One showstopper in .34 was sufficient I think:)&lt;br /&gt;
[15:57]  Oskar Linden: nice one psi&lt;br /&gt;
[15:57]  Oskar Linden: right now we only have 2 tied to 1.34&lt;br /&gt;
[15:58]  Oskar Linden: SVC-5082 is the other&lt;br /&gt;
[15:58]  JIRA-helper: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5082&lt;br /&gt;
[#SVC-5082] Rez Build Failure on 1.34 Beta Server&lt;br /&gt;
[15:58]  Oskar Linden: and I&amp;#039;ve been talking to Andrew about that&lt;br /&gt;
[15:59]  Oskar Linden: well alright then&lt;br /&gt;
[15:59]  Drew Dwi: take care!&lt;br /&gt;
[15:59]  Oskar Linden: have a good one and thanks for coming&lt;br /&gt;
[15:59]  Latif Khalifa: take care oskar&lt;br /&gt;
[15:59]  Johan Laurasia: thank you Oskar&lt;br /&gt;
[15:59]  Oskar Linden: someone let me know if they find that havok4 viral drift jira&lt;br /&gt;
[15:59]  Psi Merlin: Thanks oskar&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Beta Server Office Hours - Minutes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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