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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt; txt [2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy&amp;#039;s - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): *** IF THE AO DOES NOT START IN 30 SECONDS PLEASE UNWEAR AND WEAR IT AGAIN *** [2017/03/16 15...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy&amp;#039;s - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): *** IF THE AO DOES NOT START IN 30 SECONDS PLEASE UNWEAR AND WEAR IT AGAIN ***&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy&amp;#039;s - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Loading notecard &amp;#039;Default&amp;#039;...&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:05]  A&amp;amp;A Romeo Hair Darkbrown 1.1: Ready&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy&amp;#039;s - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Typing override: On&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy&amp;#039;s - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): 12 animation entries found in Notecard.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:05]  TuTy&amp;#039;s - Happy Guy FREE AO - priority3 (just wear): Finished reading notecard &amp;#039;Default&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:06]  Theresa Tennyson: I just came back from there and found an anomaly with a navigation HUD I have.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:06]  Mazidox Linden: Hey Caleb&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:06]  Caleb Linden: hey&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:06]  Mazidox Linden: Anyone else we&amp;#039;re waiting for?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:07]  NOPE (margithe): When you cross the sim border, whole terrain texturing &amp;quot;jumps&amp;quot; and retextures slightly, moving back of forth by about a foot or two. But i have to look with the default viewer too. And it&amp;#039;s not a new issue, was the same on live mainland too. Just just happens to emphasize the rubberband effect on sim crossing extra much&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:08]  NOPE (margithe): i&amp;#039;ll just jira it.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Mazidox Linden: Not hearing any objections to starting, so let&amp;#039;s get to the agenda.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Mazidox Linden: Hi Whirly&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Whirly Fizzle: Hiya!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Caleb Linden: hola&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:08]  NOPE (margithe): Hi WHirly!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:08]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Whirly.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:09]  Mazidox Linden: So, DRTSIM-323 is still going strong.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:09]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Caleb.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:09]  Mazidox Linden: Several of you mentioned testing it, for which we&amp;#039;re appreciative.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:10]  Theresa Tennyson: Is there a JIRA heading we should use for it?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:10]  Mazidox Linden: We&amp;#039;ve found some issues, but the only one you&amp;#039;d see any impact from day to day was the inability to get into Morris last week.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:10]  NOPE (margithe): I notified Casper about it, if he hasn&amp;#039;t messaged you yet. So his ball is in his court.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:11]  Whirly Fizzle: I failed to break it  :(&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:11]  NOPE (margithe): Well, Lucy nuked us out last week :P&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:11]  Mazidox Linden: By the way, if you find a region looks online on Aditi but you can&amp;#039;t get into it, please bring it up here. If it says Failed to Grant Capabilities, an IM to myself or Caleb would probably not go amiss.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:11]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): that wasn&amp;#039;t me, btw&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:11]  NOPE (margithe): mhmm who else :P&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:11]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): idk, being serious&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:12]  Mazidox Linden: We&amp;#039;re aware of that issue and have noted it for additional investigation and a sprinkle of pesticide.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:12]  Kennylex Luckless: Hia&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:12]  Whirly Fizzle: Hey Kenny&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:13]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): place your bets arton or jenna will be here at the end of the meeting forgetting about DST, heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:13]  Caleb Linden: very likely&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:13]  Mazidox Linden: We mentioned DRTSIM-342 last week (which was entirely internal logging and fixes) and it has gone to Agni RCs.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:14]  Mazidox Linden: Anyone seen/heard of any new issues with it so far?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:14]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): that version I asked abotu goign to RC and was told not likely, went to RC, heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:14]  Whirly Fizzle: Not yet&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:16]  NOPE (margithe): (i need to bow out early today)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:17]  Mazidox Linden: Hopefully you can stick around for at least a few more minutes&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): Oh, we&amp;#039;re in the early testing phase of a new feature that aims to improve landowner experience and help premium members. We&amp;#039;ll let you know when we have more to say about it.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Whirly Fizzle: OMG tease&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): parcel windlight&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we are still figuring out the test plan, testing logistics and what have you&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:18]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): there did it for you, heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:19]  Whirly Fizzle: OOOh is it parcel windlight?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:19]  NOPE (margithe): what kind of landowner, any, or just estate owners like usual?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:19]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): would be nice, heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:19]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): idk&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:19]  Whirly Fizzle: Does this new shiny need a viewer change too?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): possible&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:20]  NOPE (margithe): Parcel windlight, how about parcel ground texture controls ! That would be the cherry on my ice cream&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): if there wasn&amp;#039;t such developer glory seeking, there&amp;#039;d be more shared info, heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Whirly Fizzle: Possible....  gah.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I mean what is the risk of telling us what you&amp;#039;re working on?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you think your competitiors will have an edge on you if you do? heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:21]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): does anyone have the animation for the chicken dance from Arrested Development?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:21]  Whirly Fizzle: You can tell us if it&amp;#039;s parcel windlight.  Firestorm has had that for years  :P&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:21]  Kennylex Luckless: Parcel land texture? That would make mainland look very ugly.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:21]  NOPE (margithe): The risk is that we say &amp;quot; No, you are going about it the wrong way &amp;quot; ;)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:21]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): @Marg, yes that is also the problem&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:21]  NOPE (margithe): Mainland is not being made pretty by ground prims instead either.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:22]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): once a feature interpretation is set in stone, there is little to no chance of correctings being made&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:22]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): ie, every major feature SL has gotten over the years&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:22]  NOPE (margithe): Also, lesser reason to participate in meetings.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:22]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): slightly except bento since it had more involvement with creators&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:22]  Whirly Fizzle: Passed you 2 chicken dances caleb&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:23]  Kennylex Luckless: Well,  land color look nice, if folk can have parcel land texture it will just be a new way to land grief.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:23]  NOPE (margithe): I&amp;#039;ve asked some competent people why they aren&amp;#039;t here, and the answer has always been &amp;quot; not bothering to speak to deaf ears anymore&amp;quot; so that is a problem.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:23]  Kennylex Luckless: We will see land with troll face all over :-)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Whirly Fizzle: So this whatever it is will only be for premium members then?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Whirly Fizzle: If so, doubt it&amp;#039;s parcel WL.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we&amp;#039;ll do a pile-on when this thing shapes up&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): @Whirls, what if it is?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:24]  Whirly Fizzle: No point in restricting that when TPV&amp;#039;s can do it.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Kennylex Luckless: More land for Premium users.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Mazidox Linden: Obviously I&amp;#039;m new here, but where I&amp;#039;m from, QA is the voice of the users. We advocate in your best interest when you can&amp;#039;t speak about something directly, and we gather your feedback so that we can make a compelling argument to stakeholders.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Mazidox Linden: And I take that responsibility very seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): But for today, we are actually wanting to do a pile-on with the asset fetch from cdn&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:25]  NOPE (margithe): More land for premium users would be nice, but it doesn&amp;#039;t solve the vast abandoned mainland anyhow.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Mazidox Linden: This pile-on is gonna be a bit funky, because everyone will have to relog.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:25]  Whirly Fizzle: OOh ok, so we need to hop on the asset http viewer?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Mazidox Linden: Uhh, Caleb, thing I didn&amp;#039;t think of&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Mazidox Linden: Before we have anyone download anything&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Mazidox Linden: Please verify the URL&amp;#039;s are correct and paste them here.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Mazidox Linden: Someone could edit the page to redirect folks :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:26]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group i put the links here&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:27]  Mazidox Linden: (The eternal problem with wikis...)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:28]  Mazidox Linden: http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/asset-http/rev/324478/arch/CYGWIN/installer/Second_Life_Project_AssetHttp_5_0_3_324478_i686_Setup.exe and http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/asset-http/rev/324478/arch/Darwin/installer/Second_Life_Project_AssetHttp_5_0_3_324478_i386.dmg&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Mazidox Linden: Just to be sure you&amp;#039;re getting actual SL binaries, and not some random BonzaiBuddy or something.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Whirly Fizzle: Works&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Mazidox Linden: (Be right back)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Whirly Fizzle: Ok installing&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:29]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): haven&amp;#039;t heard that term in years&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:30]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): on that note I was going to make a clippy avatar back in the day for people to annoy each other with&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:31]  NOPE (margithe): Installer crashed my firestorm, so now i&amp;#039;m slightly worried&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:31]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): huh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:31]  Mazidox Linden: Please save any logs you can regarding that.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:32]  NOPE (margithe): got an error message that i couldn&amp;#039;t install while running SL&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:32]  Mazidox Linden: Though, I know that if you&amp;#039;re running secondlife.exe when the updater runs, it&amp;#039;ll log you out cleanly.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:32]  Whirly Fizzle: You cant install any SL viewer while another sl viewer is running&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:32]  NOPE (margithe): noes, it crashed, not logged.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:32]  Mazidox Linden: /me nods&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:32]  Mazidox Linden: That&amp;#039;s still cause for concern&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:32]  NOPE (margithe): should have paused the installer imo.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Whirly Fizzle: Hmm that&amp;#039;s fun.  I have a lot of missing objects here now&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): back on the kitten punch viewer, smh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:34]  NOPE (margithe): i&amp;#039;m sorry, this viewer gives me a migraine &amp;gt;.&amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): another happy customer&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Mazidox Linden: Can you clarify Whirly?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:34]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): no worries, so it crash FS while it was running and you tried to install it?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:35]  Whirly Fizzle: Hang on, taking a screen shot&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:36]  Kennylex Luckless: I get no grid selection&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:36]  Mazidox Linden: But you&amp;#039;re here?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:36]  Whirly Fizzle: Mazidox: http://prnt.sc/ekvtk4&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:37]  Mazidox Linden: Goodness&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:37]  Whirly Fizzle: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:37]  Whirly Fizzle: Let me relog....&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:37]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): what?!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:38]  NOPE (margithe): so far so good for me at least.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Mazidox Linden: Caleb, we have the capability here right?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Mazidox Linden: IIRC 323 includes 341 includes 339?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Mazidox Linden: (Sequential numbering is for squares)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i think not yet&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:38]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): can&amp;#039;t tell if thats the power of pinesol or LL cdn&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:39]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah, mazidox you are right&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:39]  Whirly Fizzle: Ok, all good after relog&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:39]  Mazidox Linden: Still, we should hang on to that screenshot&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:39]  Mazidox Linden: And the viewer logs if you have them please Whirly&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:40]  Whirly Fizzle: Yeah I&amp;#039;ll pull out that session log&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:40]  Mazidox Linden: This is a very easy test to run at least.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:40]  Mazidox Linden: &amp;quot;Can you log in? Do items appear?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:41]  Theresa Tennyson: I&amp;#039;m seeing things, and I&amp;#039;m using a dance HUD to shuffle animations.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:41]  NOPE (margithe): Well, for me all rendered in instantly, but perhaps it&amp;#039;s better to look at meshtest sim&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:41]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i recommend playing around with uploading and playing back your animation: &amp;quot;add sound, animation, gesture, landmark, clothing, and bodypart assets to the CDN&amp;quot; was the objective&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:42]  Mazidox Linden: Oh that&amp;#039;s right, I forgot that was the other test case, was for new uploads.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:42]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): any of the asset types&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:42]  NOPE (margithe): i seriously have absolutely nothing on this account &amp;gt;.&amp;lt;&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): you can create some new bodyparts at least&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Theresa Tennyson: Is this viewer safe for everyday use on Agni?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Mazidox Linden: Uhhhhhh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Mazidox Linden: It&amp;#039;s a Project Viewer&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Whirly Fizzle: CDN change is live on all Agni now right?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Theresa Tennyson: Is it NOT UNSAFE, I should say.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): not it&amp;#039;s no changed yet&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): we need aditi&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh Vir aid it had&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Whirly Fizzle: At the TPV meeting&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:43]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i see&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Mazidox Linden: Only for Aditi, there&amp;#039;s back end changes that need to be made to Agni, I think?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Theresa Tennyson: The code might be there but turned off.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Whirly Fizzle: Can check anyway, see if this viewer gets the new cap on Agni&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Mazidox Linden: The simulator understands how to serve assets, but nothing will offer them yet, I think?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:44]  Whirly Fizzle: Mazidox, the session log where objects failed to load  http://pastebin.com/gSSWyKdN&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:45]  Mazidox Linden: (Please note, I&amp;#039;m not an Ops Linden, this is a guess.)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:45]  Mazidox Linden: Some light reading for me tonight.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:45]  Whirly Fizzle: Looks ok to me, but I&amp;#039;m not a Linden  :P&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:46]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): but you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once, right?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:46]  Whirly Fizzle: All those &amp;quot;2017-03-16T22:34:33Z WARNING: LLSelectMgr::processObjectProperties: Couldn&amp;#039;t find object 196675e5-c533-d64d-07bc-d3b6733a1317 selected.&amp;quot; lines in the log - that&amp;#039;s when I edit selected around the missing dance floor&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:47]  Mazidox Linden: Let&amp;#039;s take a few more minutes to generate new assets and check that existing ones look okay, and in the mean time if anyone has questions or concerns they want to raise, let&amp;#039;s move on to that portion as well.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:47]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): whats coming down teh pipe?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:48]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): not next week on wednesday i am afraid&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:48]  Mazidox Linden: Usually pipes carry liquids and gases. Unless you mean the development pipeline, in which case I&amp;#039;m afraid I can&amp;#039;t say just yet.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:48]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): boring&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:49]  Object: Hello, Avatar!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:49]  Object: Hello, Avatar!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:49]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY-WtRNIe9M&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:49]  Kennylex Luckless: Sadly, I need to go to bed.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Mazidox Linden: Maybe next week you&amp;#039;ll actually see me in that pony avatar I bought :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Kennylex Luckless: :-D&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Mazidox Linden: But at the same time, avatar beautification is time not spent testing [new-feature] so...&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): so you guys no likey the project viewer?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): stop danglign that carrot, smh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:50]  Kennylex Luckless: I need to log off, it is late here and I almost fall asleep over the keyboard&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): time not spent working on features, lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): all you Lindens say the same thing&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:51]  NOPE (margithe): Project viewer, or LL viewer in general?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Simon, and Oz esp, lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): that&amp;#039;s lindenist&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:51]  Mazidox Linden: I haven&amp;#039;t been to any of Oz&amp;#039;s meetings, and only one of Simon&amp;#039;s, so I wouldn&amp;#039;t know.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Mazidox Linden: It was mostly a joke. But as always, humor doesn&amp;#039;t work so well on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Mazi, start by creating a profile pic&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Mazidox Linden: Oy, Linden Bears, Avatars, Profile pictures... It never ends! :D&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:52]  KennyLex: ni ni, now I also log out, sorry I can not stay.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Mazidox Linden: Goodnight.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): good night kenny, see you next week&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:52]  NOPE (margithe): it helps to use the software you are testing, fully ;)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:52]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh yeah, is your bear ready yet?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Mazidox Linden: Bear is in alpha on Agni&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Mazidox Linden: I&amp;#039;d say about v0.6a&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you can&amp;#039;t be like Andrew and go your whole time at LL with a default avatar&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:53]  Whirly Fizzle: he has a proper avatar on Agni though&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:54]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i miss him&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:54]  Mazidox Linden: I will make sure to get you all a beta of my bear though, since you all help me so much with feedback and testing :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:54]  Mazidox Linden: Caleb, can we set aside 10 minutes next week to workshop my bear? :D&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:55]  Mazidox Linden: (Low priority, naturally)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:55]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): you&amp;#039;re suppose to actually use SL on your free time&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:55]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): something that too many Lindens do nto bother with ...&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:56]  Mazidox Linden: You&amp;#039;re assuming I don&amp;#039;t!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:56]  Whirly Fizzle: Some do though.  Probably a lot more do we don&amp;#039;t know about using Resi accounts&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:56]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I don&amp;#039;t see a pic in your profile, lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:56]  NOPE (margithe): If you have no avatar, you are hanging out with the wrong crowd.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:58]  Whirly Fizzle: Your agni avi should be cloned over here actyually mazi&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:58]  Whirly Fizzle: Spray them... spray them all!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:58]  Mazidox Linden: The system assumes I know what I&amp;#039;m doing because I&amp;#039;m a Linden, I think.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:59]  Whirly Fizzle: Better hehe&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:59]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): so this fetching is active on all aditi regions?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 15:59]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:00]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i&amp;#039;d do cross check between old viewer and this project viewer&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:00]  Whirly Fizzle: I only know one way to check it&amp;#039;s active on a region.  be on the asset http viewer, dump caps to log and you&amp;#039;ll see the new asset cap&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:00]  Whirly Fizzle: ViewerAsset URL is http://asset-cdn.glb.aditi.lindenlab.com&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:01]  Whirly Fizzle: Develop -&amp;gt; consoles -&amp;gt; capabilities to debug console&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:02]  Whirly Fizzle: So Im going tp presume, if the asset viewer gets that cap on Agni regions, it&amp;#039;s pulling gestures etc from the CDN&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:02]  Mazidox Linden: I don&amp;#039;t think that&amp;#039;s correct Whirly.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:02]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:02]  Mazidox Linden: I think that&amp;#039;s the simulator and the client handshaking the agreed upon set of things that could be sent.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Whirly Fizzle: Hmm but the viewer requests that cap &amp;amp; the region sends it back.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Whirly Fizzle: But I guess it doesn&amp;#039;t mean it&amp;#039;s being used?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Mazidox Linden: Yeah, that.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Jenna Felton: hello all :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Whirly Fizzle: Though in the viewer code, if the viewer has that cap it should be using it&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Mazidox Linden: Hi Jenna. Daylight Savings Time :(&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): told you&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Whirly Fizzle: Hiya jenna&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:03]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): inb4 arton&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Whirly Fizzle: Hmm I guess can check with wireshark if it&amp;#039;s actually pulling the &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; assets from the CDN?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Jenna Felton: ahh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Whirly Fizzle: I&amp;#039;m not sure if logs will show that&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Whirly Fizzle: Unless you make an assets that&amp;#039;s busted to get an error?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Mazidox Linden: You&amp;#039;re now into the realm I won&amp;#039;t even venture a guess, sorry.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:04]  Whirly Fizzle: Maybe a mising from database shape&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:05]  Techwolf Lupindo: I use ngrep to look at HTTP on the network.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:05]  Mazidox Linden: Jenna, we&amp;#039;ll post the transcript on the Agenda page, along with the time for next week.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Jenna Felton: thank you Mazidox&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Whirly Fizzle: Ok yeah that works&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Mazidox Linden: And, my apologies, I edited the agenda but didn&amp;#039;t change the PST to PDT&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Whirly Fizzle: I just wore a shape that I know is missing from the database&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Whirly Fizzle: This spits in my log - I can see it&amp;#039;s pulling it from the CDN&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:06]  Whirly Fizzle: 2017-03-16T23:05:59Z WARNING: #Wearable LLWearableList::processGetAssetReply: Wearable download failed: Asset request: failed 24dbed60-653b-5614-d578-3146f418032b&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): interesting&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): can you try it with the old viewer?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Whirly Fizzle: It will show the old asset url&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Whirly Fizzle: I guess&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:07]  Whirly Fizzle: Lemme bring alt in...&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:08]  Jenna Felton: can you produce an asset and then delete it from the database? somehow, than it would force that error&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:08]  Whirly Fizzle: I made that shape broken on purpose to test.  I needed an error in the log to see where it was pulling the shape asset from&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: It doesn&amp;#039;t log it othereise  lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: *otherwise&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Mazidox Linden: &amp;quot;Working As Intended&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: So can try this on agni to see if it&amp;#039;s pulling shapes from the CDN&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Jenna Felton: cool, than it is possible :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: Theres probably a much better way haha&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:09]  Whirly Fizzle: But hey, that worked&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:10]  Mazidox Linden: And with that, I think we&amp;#039;re about done. Any final questions for the week?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:10]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): bring shineys&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:10]  Mazidox Linden: My hope is that we&amp;#039;ll have more to share soon. No promises, mind, but hope.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:10]  NOPE (margithe): Bring mirror shineys already. Wait, thats viewer too. Nm.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:11]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): if Simms can have reflections then so can SL, smh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:11]  Whirly Fizzle: Just logging alkt in to see what happens on old viewer&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:13]  中毒 (kippy.adored): Ok on non asset http viewer....&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:13]  中毒 (kippy.adored): 2017-03-16T23:12:29Z WARNING: #CoreHttp llcorehttp/_httppolicy.cpp(437) : LLCore::HttpPolicy::stageAfterCompletion: HTTP request 000001E65409E780 failed after 0 retries.  Reason:  Not Found (Http_404)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:13]  NOPE (margithe): Also, congrats on getting the forums finally under control. Must have been a sweaty week for those in charge.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:13]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): oh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:13]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): reminds me&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:13]  Mazidox Linden: Thanks Margithe. :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:13]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i know!!!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): what is the url I should be looking at to see what is going to be released during teh week&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): i felt empty for not being reminded to post the deploy plans&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): because https://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/bd-p/SecondLifeServer is busted&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Mazidox Linden: You mean the deploy plan?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): whatever you want to call it, heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:14]  Mazidox Linden: https://community.secondlife.com/forums/forum/310-second-life-server/&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:15]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): server releasesok, thanks&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Mazidox Linden: Oh! *I* have a last question&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Mazidox Linden: Did anyone ever use the region status tool from the wiki page?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): url&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Mazidox Linden: It&amp;#039;s super busted right now, but I was wondering if it&amp;#039;d be useful to you all.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:16]  Jenna Felton: when i can not log in, sometimes, then i use the status page&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:16]  NOPE (margithe): what tool is that?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  NOPE (margithe): not sure what we are talking about&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Mazidox Linden: http://aditi.coreqa.net/gridtool.php&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Whirly Fizzle: Script that IM&amp;#039;s you grid status reports you mean?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Jenna Felton: when the grid status is meant http://status.secondlifegrid.net/&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh...&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Mazidox Linden: Okay, so no one has used this?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Whirly Fizzle: OOooooh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Whirly Fizzle: No, didn&amp;#039;t know about it&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:17]  Jenna Felton: ah... never seen that one, actually&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:18]  NOPE (margithe): I don&amp;#039;t believe anyone i know is using it. Aside maybe Tyche?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Whirly Fizzle: Oh that would be super handy if it was working&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Jenna Felton: are that all the regions aditi holds?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Mazidox Linden: I was going to maybe give it TLC if I get time, but I want to know how useful it&amp;#039;d be first.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): would be handy if the regions were alphbetized too&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:18]  NOPE (margithe): Pair it together with the ability to restart a region from that page, after logging in and it will be pretty good.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:18]  Mazidox Linden: Never going to happen :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:19]  Whirly Fizzle: Very useful.  Without bugging a Linden there&amp;#039;s no easy way to find a region on a specific server version you may want to test something on&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:19]  Mazidox Linden: (The region restart thing)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:20]  NOPE (margithe): Morris: access unknown&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): don&amp;#039;t let it cut into your profile pic/avatar/bear creation though&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): priorities&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Whirly Fizzle: lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Jenna Felton: yes, knowing server version and where to find the one you need is always a good idea&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): lol&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Jenna Felton: plus it should be at least one region for all released versions in one year or so&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:20]  Mazidox Linden: Hey, the bear is still a showstopper. Technically I can&amp;#039;t ship... Me... Until it&amp;#039;s fixed.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:21]  NOPE (margithe): Well ok, put it this way instead- some web-based region controls would be pretty good for sim owners. As i&amp;#039;ve heard, it&amp;#039;s not always exactly easy to log onto SL from a hospital, while a web page is slightly more managable.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:21]  Jenna Felton: but that is about how many regions are in aditi and how many version are released :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:21]  Whirly Fizzle: You can already manage regions vuia a web page - resttart etc, but you need to have it set up with scripted object on it.  There&amp;#039;s tools for sale to do just that&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:21]  NOPE (margithe): just commenting the 2never going to happen&amp;quot; part.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:21]  Techwolf Lupindo: Not every internet access point support stream data well.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:22]  Mazidox Linden: Because it&amp;#039;s not hosted on secondlife.com I don&amp;#039;t think we can have anything that would change the region. But if you had thoughts on things that would be useful to extract as data, I&amp;#039;d be interested to hear them.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:22]  NOPE (margithe): hmm ok&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:22]  Mazidox Linden: At any rate, we&amp;#039;ll talk more about it at a later date. After we workshop my bear (priorities!)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:22]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): number of parcels, # of parcels that allow public rezzing and/or scriptign and/or entry, heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:23]  NOPE (margithe): HAHaha Lucy&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:23]  NOPE (margithe): jebus&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:23]  NOPE (margithe): and then give us that list for mainland, yes?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:23]  Whirly Fizzle: griffs would love that  :P&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:23]  NOPE (margithe): I&amp;#039;m so , so so done cleaning up my neighbors parcels from graphics crashesrs since they apparently don&amp;#039;t understand autoreturn.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:23]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I didn&amp;#039;t say, # of parcels with public rez and 0 return time, heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:24]  Whirly Fizzle: Ugh they leave crashers rezzed?&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:24]  NOPE (margithe): yeah but at least you&amp;#039;d have a list of places for a bot to skim quickly&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:24]  NOPE (margithe): Leave? They don&amp;#039;t only leave, they turn on public rezzing for their &amp;quot;friends&amp;quot; and just go do something else.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:25]  Whirly Fizzle: Nice....&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:25]  NOPE (margithe): yeah, only lucky that the object was 4 sims big, and we could catch a corner of it&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:25]  Whirly Fizzle: ...&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:25]  NOPE (margithe): ....repeatedly.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:25]  Whirly Fizzle: ...&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:25]  Whirly Fizzle: Ok, so, need a plan to make them move!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:26]  Jenna Felton: that is not easy to imagine :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:26]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): Caleb, did your car get towed? heh&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:26]  Mazidox Linden: For now I have to go do Grid Necromancy :)&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:26]  NOPE (margithe): but data! data is still nice. Just not sure what we could handle without shannanigans.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:27]  NOPE (margithe): shennanigans*&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): St. Patricks Day ref&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): yeah, green day&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): drinks&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): beer&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): I have to go&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Lucy Daughter of the Devil (lucia.nightfire): later all&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:27]  Caleb the Cable Guy (caleb.linden): see ya!&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:28]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Thank you, Caleb.&lt;br /&gt;
[2017/03/16 16:28]  NOPE (margithe): i&amp;#039;m sad this meeting is so late :( always catch me on the dumbs. I have to go, bedtime&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Caleb Linden</name></author>
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