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		<title>Wiki Scribe: Robot: adding bug triage template for categorization</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robot: adding bug triage template for categorization&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Davy Linden: New page: * [2009/05/28 2:36] Louise Linden:  First up we have https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13638 * [2009/05/28 2:36] Louise Linden:  Using CT...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: * [2009/05/28 2:36] &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/User:Louise_Linden&quot; title=&quot;User:Louise Linden&quot;&gt;Louise Linden&lt;/a&gt;:  First up we have https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13638 * [2009/05/28 2:36] &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/User:Louise_Linden&quot; title=&quot;User:Louise Linden&quot;&gt;Louise Linden&lt;/a&gt;:  Using CT...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [2009/05/28 2:36] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  First up we have https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13638&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:36] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Using CTL + ~ to save snapshot to disk produces incorrect camera view&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:37] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  my friend has this issue&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:37] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  I think this is the same issue as VWR-13630 which is lower down the list&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:37] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  ah&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:37] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  shall we look at both now?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:37] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  may as well&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:37] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  kill off two at once&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:38] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  yup&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:38] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  hi there :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:38] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  hey&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:38] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  WElcome back DMC&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:38] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  it repros for me. import?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:38] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  So is the actual bug that there&amp;#039;s an unexpected movement? Because there are tons of unexpected/unwanted movements thrown in for free in the viewer.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:39] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  thank you Sebastean ;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:39] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Hi DMC&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:39] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  it seems that way&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:39] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  if you have high-res enabled, it doesn&amp;#039;t take a napshot of the whole screen, just the lower left&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:39] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  its a bugger for photographers&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:40] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Ah, that&amp;#039;s different then, could be someone through in a free res change.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:40] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  threw*&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:40] [[User:Lares Carter|Lares Carter]]:  heya everyone :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:40] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Hi Lares&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:40] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  hi lares&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:40] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  If I miss anyone as they arrive, half of my screen is in a script, so I apologize.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:40] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Hi Lares :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:40] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  I&amp;#039;ll see which i better to import and mark the other as duplicate&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:41] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  yup sounds lijke a good plan&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:41] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  *like&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:41] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  excellent :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:42] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  the next one on the agenda aslo seems to be a similar issue&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:42] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13639&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:42] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Does &amp;quot;import&amp;quot; mean adding to the LL internal Jira? I&amp;#039;ve meant to ask that for months :P&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:42] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  yes&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:42] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  details get copied across&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:42] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  KK. So it doesn&amp;#039;t imply task assignment.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:43] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  how do you mean task assignment?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:43] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Doesn&amp;#039;t actually mean that it WILL be picked up and fixed.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:43] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  it means that it will actually get investigated by us&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:43] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Or does *everything* in the internal Jira get resolved?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:44] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Aha. Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:44] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  ok so 13639&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:44] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  definitely looks related to previous ones&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:44] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  yes&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:44] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  looks like it could be the same at the first, so we add it to the others one to investigate&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:45] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  ok&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:45] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  and make as dupe if necessary&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:45] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  so next up https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13614&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:45] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Removal of IM msgs from windowed local chat a pain&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:45] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  In using the JIRA I encountered a bit of confusion as to what issues show up in the list given from browsing to VWR Open Issues, 1.23 Release Candidate. I filed something for said category but it doesn&amp;#039;t appear there.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:45] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  Can confirm this issue on Nvidia 9800 GX2&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:45] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  &amp;lt;.&amp;lt; answer that whenever.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:46] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Al: we&amp;#039;ll answer that at the end if thats ok&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:46] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  okie.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:47] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  davy do you know if this was an intentional change?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:48] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  I think it was&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:48] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  but I see a lot of complaints about it&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:48] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  shall we import and look into it more?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:48] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  Hello, sorry for being to late. I dont know if we can talk about 13316 later too? I filed that and i dont know if there is a solution for that in progress. I asked Quarl for it, but he did not answer my IM. Maybe he was busy. :-)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:49] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Does appear to be, yes, but it went only half way. So either revert or do the whole job and add a second tickbox.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:49] [[User:Dera Kit|Dera Kit]]:  txs for letting me sit on this.. got to run to a meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:50] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Hi Dera :-)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:50] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Take care Dera :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:50] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  bye dera!&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:50] [[User:Lares Carter|Lares Carter]]:  yes i think it should have 2 checkboxes then&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:51] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  OK Davy, import this one and we&amp;#039;ll go take a look.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:51] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  ok&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:51] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  I have a question, but I&amp;#039;m not sure whether you have covered it in the Jira or Triage?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:52] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Thursday_Agenda] is todays agenda&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:53] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  next up is https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13691&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:53] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Show Hidden Selection is always on&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:53] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  I haven&amp;#039;t experienced that issue&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:54] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  it appears the default is &amp;quot;Show hidden selection&amp;quot;, but turning it off works for me&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:55] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  though I&amp;#039;m on a later client than the RC&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:55] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  True, I&amp;#039;m using the nightly viewer.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:55] [[User:Lares Carter|Lares Carter]]:  works fine with 1.23.3 (121709)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:56] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  NMI?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:56] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Being on 1.22.11, I don&amp;#039;t even have the debug setting, so this seems to report on new functionality not being right.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:56] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  I think so, see if anyone else is seeing it, could be hardware specific&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:57] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  I have another friend who uses it frequently in his builds, and he never reported having issues with it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:57] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  does 1.22 have the option in Tools menu?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:57] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  In the advanced menu, I think.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:57] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Ah, I may have misread. It&amp;#039;s the RenderHidden.... option that is a debug setting&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:58] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Advanced &amp;gt;Rendering&amp;gt; Hide Selected&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:58] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Yeah, SHow Hidden Selection is in Tools menu&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:58] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  sebastean, that&amp;#039;s not the same option&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:58] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Ah, right, I just realized that.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:58] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  I had scrolled up to check, my bad :P&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 2:59] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  OK, so it is present as described in 1.22.11&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:00] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  It seems to be fixed in the 1.23.3 nightly.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:00] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  can anyone reproduce the problem?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:01] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  I just tried, but no.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:01] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Then again, I&amp;#039;m not sure what steps the person who filed the JIRA did to produce it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:01] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  It might be a race condition.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:01] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  (for non-programmers, that&amp;#039;s an entirely technical term)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:01] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Shall we go with NMI and ask the reporter to check in a later build?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:01] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  yep&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:01] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  sounds like a plan&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:02] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Yes NMI --- he should say whether it&amp;#039;s just the menu label that stays marked on, or if the action stays on but menu entry changes, or both, or what.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:02] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  next up is: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13524&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:02] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Moon is incredibly large in 1.23 RC&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:02] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  I&amp;#039;ll ask some questions&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:02] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  gets out a mandolin and starts playing as he sings, &amp;quot;Harvest moooooon....&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:02] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  cool thanks Davy&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:03] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  moon problem is known - already in internal jira&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:03] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Pity that Moon isn&amp;#039;t here today, she&amp;#039;d love that Jira :-)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:03] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  In 1.23.3, it seems to be its normal size.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:03] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  and already fixed for next RC i believe&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:03] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  I&amp;#039;ll link the issues&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:03] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  thanks davy. was just typing that!!&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:03] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  hehe&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:04] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  next is https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13490&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:04] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Font readability in RC&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:04] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  we triaged this one last week,&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:04] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  we saw this last week and asked fr more info&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:04] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  we got a little more&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:05] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  That appears to be system-specific at least&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:05] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  The text in my notecards appears nothing like that in the screenshots.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:05] [[User:Lares Carter|Lares Carter]]:  i dont like the new font for the script window&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:06] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  OK I think we&amp;#039;ll import this one, but also ask for the fuyll system spec&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:06] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  *full&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:07] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  as the second report only contains part spec&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:07] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  It&amp;#039;s almost as if they had &amp;quot;bold&amp;quot; turned on in their notecard, which is impossible of course.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:09] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  next is https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13170&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:09] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  IMs don&amp;#039;t ding or show up across my screen without im window open&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:09] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  related to VWR-13614&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:09] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  but I think th soud is a separate issue&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:09] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  sound*&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:09] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  This seems to be changed functionality at the server end, since it happens even in 1.22.11 now.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:10] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  i had the same problem but only sometimes no &amp;quot;ding ding&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:10] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  I miss the dinging&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:10] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  There&amp;#039;s almost never a time I don&amp;#039;t have my IM window open, so I haven&amp;#039;t been able to test that.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:10] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  For instance, I spent all day without a single message from Caledon yesterday, despite there having been many hundreds or thousands of lines spoken.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:10] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  can&amp;#039;t verify that*&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:11] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  ok we&amp;#039;ll import and go and take a look&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:11] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  yes, appears working here&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:11] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  People ask for a way to mute group IMs, and we get it in the form of a bug lol&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:11] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:11] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  I suppose it&amp;#039;s possible that this is just the group IM bug getting even worse, as if that were possible.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:12] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  A relog made Caledon chat come back for me, by the way.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:12] [[User:Multi Gadget|Multi Gadget]]:  v1.57.1 by Timeless Prototype&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:14] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  next up we have https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13280&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:14] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Cannot create adult classified in Adult area / can create PG/Mature one&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:14] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  has anyone tried this?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:15] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  I can&amp;#039;t say I have, my classifieds are PG&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:15] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  this is expected behaviour&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:15] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  no our sims will not support adult&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:15] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  and event in &amp;quot;adult&amp;quot; will always be classified &amp;quot;adult&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:16] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Ah, so a classified in an adult area is adult by default.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:18] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  drops a pin. ~ting!~&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:19] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  so it is expected behavour, but I would like to import as it&amp;#039;s not clear thats what&amp;#039;s happening&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:19] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  yeah - I think it could be better explined, at least&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:19] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  explined*&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:19] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  yup&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:19] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  grr&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:20] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  lol&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:20] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  explained**&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:20] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  so import that one&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:20] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  ok&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:21] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  next is https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13372&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:21] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Alpha textures flicker and vanish with shadows enabled (old bug from Kristens)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:21] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  I have a question about the next JIRA concerning shadows.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:21] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Are the &amp;quot;shadows&amp;quot; its referring to the deferred pipeline in the nightly?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:21] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  sure&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:21] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  it&amp;#039;s*&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:21] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  hmmm... interesting to know.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:22] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  i tried the shadows but my framerate fall back to 5 fps or slower ;-), but the textures was looking fine. i could not see that bug&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:22] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  sorry my sure was in repsonse to asking a question&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:22] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  not the actual question&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:22] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Oh, no worries, hehe, I figured :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:22] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  I&amp;#039;ve tried to turn on shadows, but it never works for me.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:22] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  my framrate slowed to a crawl too, but was fine otherwise&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:22] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  What process do you follow Larissa?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:23] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  13372 . alpha bugs&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:23] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  i could not see that&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:23] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  my textures was fine&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:23] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  I should look into how to install the nightlies... see if any of them don&amp;#039;t crash on me.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:23] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  but the framerate was slow&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:23] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  The debug option I was told to turn on shadows didn&amp;#039;t do anything. How does one toggle the pipeline shadows?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:24] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  renderdeferred and renderusefbo&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:24] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  &amp;quot;renderdeferred&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;renderusefbo&amp;quot; set to True in both instances&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:25] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  My renderdeferred just sets itself back to false.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:25] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  it works fine for me&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:25] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  Likewise, Sebastian,&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:25] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  The FBO works fine for &amp;quot;true&amp;quot;, but not the other setting&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:25] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  we&amp;#039;ve got a problem with the Science Fiction sim build while trying to prepare for shadows with PNG8x8 opague, i need jira it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  when I loaded an alternate compilation of the code that ran okay for me.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Any idea why my client would refuse to use the deferred pipeline?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Hmm&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  What&amp;#039;s you vid card again?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  ATI ?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  Same question here, except I&amp;#039;m guessing it&amp;#039;s my ATI.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  X1800 Mobility Radeon&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  This is a strange one, I think we will import it and go and investigate what&amp;#039;s going on&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  HD3670.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:26] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  what ATI Catalyst Driver?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:27] [[User:Larissa Vacano|Larissa Vacano]]:  i am using a nvidia 8800 so i cant reproduce it&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:27] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  Mobility Radeon again.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:27] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Checking&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:27] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  But yeah I&amp;#039;ve reproduced the switch to false with that.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:27] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  If anyone is reproducing it, could they add their specs to the jira for me please?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:27] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  Which now?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:28] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  as soon as you get a chance!&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:28] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  the more info the better chance we have of working it out!&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:28] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  Is this going by that thing that was said about having a separate issue for different cards?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:28] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  By memory, working with x1900xtx, x2900xt, 3000 and 4000, you must be on at least ATI Catalyst 8.7 to sucessfully run shadows in SL&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:29] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  same would apply with Mobilities, im me after Triage for more support.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:30] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Sure DMC, sorry about the lack of response, I was getting a bit lagged.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:30] [[User:DMC Zsigmond|DMC Zsigmond]]:  np ;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:30] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Speaking of, and not to change the subject, but Davy, do you know of any memory leaks in the nightly?&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:30] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  I couldn&amp;#039;t technically test it on 1.23 as that doesn&amp;#039;t run long enough for me right now but...&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:31] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  heh, well I guess I&amp;#039;ll explain in the JIRA.&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:32] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  I crashed trying to do that&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:32] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  I ask because there has been a memory leak I&amp;#039;ve hit several times using the nightly, but I can&amp;#039;t seem to pinpoint what causes it. IT&amp;#039;s even happened to me and another person in the same area simultaneously, his client was using 1.2Gb of ram, and mine was using 800Mb&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  right guys and girls time&amp;#039;s up, Davy and I have another meeting to get to!&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  So, it seems to be possibly environmentally related, but I haven&amp;#039;t been able to find out enough information to be helpful in a JIRA&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Arabella Steadham|Arabella Steadham]]:  its been interesting :)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  Thanks everyone for coming along!&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Al Sonic|Al Sonic]]:  Alrighty, goodbye, and head on =)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Morgaine Dinova|Morgaine Dinova]]:  Thanks Louise+ Davy, take care :-)&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Davy Linden|Davy Linden]]:  thanks all&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Sebastean Steamweaver|Sebastean Steamweaver]]:  Thanks guys&lt;br /&gt;
* [2009/05/28 3:33] [[User:Louise Linden|Louise Linden]]:  as usual the agenda will be up wednesday evening for you all to look at and add to&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Davy Linden</name></author>
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