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* [8:59] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Hello everybody
* [8:59] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: Hello everyone.
* [8:59] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: Hello!
* [8:59] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]: Hi :)
* [8:59] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: hello fellow 'Nauts!
* [9:00] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: Hi
* [9:01] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: I am afraid I will have nothing but questions today... :D
* [9:01] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: thats ok
* [9:01] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: freeform it
* [9:02] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: So it looks like there were a lot of new gridnauts voyaging yesterday. Congrats to all who succeeded.
* [9:02] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: For those that didn't yet, go ahead and ask your questions. We have a couple veteren Gridnauts here.
* [9:03] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: I managed to get into Tish's sim, but I was 100% anonymous at both ends
* [9:03] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: probs w/firewall have kept me out of our sim but I can get through others
* [9:03] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: haven't tried again in a week though
* [9:03] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Also, remember that there's an irc channel #gridnauts at irc.freenode.net
* [9:03] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: this is a lazy question I could look it up I am sure but what is the minimum OpenSim trunk for a grid to use the OGP patch?
* [9:04] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: it probably works with head
* [9:04] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]: G2 it's probably best to use the version that's specified in the patch name
* [9:04] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: Honestly, I am a graphics guy.. I know really not much, but not a newb. I have a full region in SL and then I have a full region in OLG. so... anyways besides that... I guess I need to know what I am supposed to do to get to the other side... :D, without eating a grid bullet.
* [9:06] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]: I wanted to chenge my region to another server but I realized that people have the url's cached :/
* [9:06] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: ok thanks DHalia
* [9:07] [[User:Xugu Madison|Xugu Madison]]: Anyone know why I'd be getting "Bad Request" when trying to teleport to my region?
* [9:07] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: I'm not a network god but I'm trying to understand trouble I've been having
* [9:07] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Teleport_How_To]
* [9:07] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: np logging on to OpenSim directly w/standard client
* [9:07] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Perefim make sure you've read all this first: [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Grid_Public_Beta]
* [9:07] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: (and the link Sai just sent)
* [9:07] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: but w/the OpenGrid client, can't do it
* [9:07] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: That way your questions will be more specific
* [9:08] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: is this b/c it goes out & back in w/opengrid and can't get through the firewall?
* [9:09] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: turns pale at the amount of reading.
* [9:09] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: ok, my dumb question is about the claiming map locations - if we run standalone, we're not on a grid... so what grid is this for?
* [9:09] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: skip to the how to
* [9:09] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: the interoperability grid
* [9:10] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: they should have the3 equipment to see what is happening and open up the appropriate ports/protocols
* [9:10] [[User:Twa Hinkle|Twa Hinkle]]: i finally used enough rooms of monkeys.. and got mine working through Vaak. one more dumb question... how do i log in direct now that my location is now not 1000 1000?
* [9:10] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Strawberry, I gather this interoperability grid isn't really a grid, but the opensimulators need to thing they are part of a global coordinate system.
* [9:11] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: aah, okie, that's kinda how I figured it'd work
* [9:11] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: I.. umm.. grids .. patches.. ports.. protocols... O.O
* [9:11] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: a virtual virtual grid
* [9:11] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: or something
* [9:11] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: O.o
* [9:11] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: lol
* [9:11] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: So does the protocol take you out to the "grid" and back in w/the OpenGrid login?
* [9:11] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: there's a fully compiled download you can use instad of a patch, by the way
* [9:11] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: even when logging directly?
* [9:11] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: we're using the one released Wed
* [9:12] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: I ahve a sim on the open life grid isn't that a opensim region right?
* [9:12] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: I'm also confused about terminology OpenGrid vs OpenSim?
* [9:13] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: I've got our OpenSim hosted on the machine behind me in my office
* [9:13] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]: Opensim is the software
* [9:13] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: right, but there's a diff version for the grid, or not?
* [9:13] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: only a diff viewer?
* [9:13] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: hehe
* [9:13] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]: there is a differevt vversion
* [9:13] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: (Originally trained as a tech writer for computer documentation, so trying to understand)
* [9:13] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: "Open Grid" is the protocols being developed
* [9:14] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Open Grid refers to what we are doing now. Interoperability
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: right, THAT'S what I want to understand
* [9:14] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: to allow other VW's to interoop
* [9:14] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: mmm seems i need this beta viewer thingy
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: the protocols
* [9:14] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: can I get the link for downloading the beta viewer please.
* [9:14] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: OGP
* [9:14] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Opensim is the name of the open sourced simulators
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: If I try to login w/OpenGrid protocol, does it go outside our firewall & then back in?
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: to get into our OpenSim?
* [9:14] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: yes
* [9:14] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: b/c w/the standard viewer, we could login directly w/no problem using the IP
* [9:15] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: you authenticate agains the LL servers
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: OK, THANK YOU
* [9:15] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: you login to a SL beta grid and then TP to your open sim
* [9:15] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: perefim -- it's in the doco
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: I have been able to to the tp thing from home
* [9:15] [[User:Xugu Madison|Xugu Madison]]: who can I prod to go "Help, this doesn't work"?
* [9:15] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: what is a doco?
* [9:15] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: the regions accept LL authentication and allow you in
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: but not @ work, so this pretty much proves I need the 9000 UDP port opened in firewall
* [9:15] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: yes
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: Yeah, I have done it but not from here on campus
* [9:15] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: v frustrating
* [9:15] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: There is a gridnauts gorup and the #gridnauts irc
* [9:16] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: and a mailing list
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: yes, they were v kind to me yesterday w/all my questions/probs :)
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: yes, on that too
* [9:16] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: ask the network admins to monitor the traffic
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: as in, if they open the port?
* [9:16] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: and open up the ports/protocols you need
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: I've told them what I need
* [9:16] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: we can do the TCP port ourselves
* [9:16] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: DOn't feel bad about that last. I'm hazy on that one too
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: so now it's just wait
* [9:17] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: still haven't done TP without completely disabling the firewall for the duration
* [9:17] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: you have TCP, that's why you can see the Hippos stuff
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: Like many other things, the whole experience has been very painfully-reinforced learning the hard way
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: Yes, makes sense
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: ty
* [9:17] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: "Bleeding Edge"
* [9:17] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: for exp
* [9:18] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: Oh is THAT what that means?! Right!
* [9:18] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: lol, maybe whump needs a medic-bear
* [9:18] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: What is the deal w/the bears?
* [9:18] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: a bandage wraped around its head
* [9:18] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: its not called the "Pillow-Edge" for a reason
* [9:18] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: sling
* [9:18] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: everyone asks for them but I found no orig offer
* [9:18] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: cast on leg
* [9:18] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: portable IV
* [9:18] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Whump is giving out these special "collectors" Linden bears to successful gridnauts
* [9:19] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: ok i have to get that asap
* [9:19] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: i put up a couple of jiras related to viewr crashes/appearance
* [9:19] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: does it qualify if you can tp but not to your own Sim?
* [9:19] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: you get a bear if you document your trip to an opensim with the beta viewer
* [9:19] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: not sure
* [9:19] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: I did that on the list
* [9:19] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: I'll have another go this weekend
* [9:19] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: some of it is related to ghosting
* [9:19] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: will where do we send it? whumpville?
* [9:19] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: I don't know. Best to ask Whump upon his return Monday.
* [9:19] [[User:G2 Proto|G2 Proto]]: k
* [9:20] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: I imagine that the details are "in the wiki".
* [9:20] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]: he has a lot of bears to give out
* [9:20] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: also put a note on the jira how-to, asking folks to make links to the umbrella issue
* [9:20] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: well the how to page suggests its any sim, not just your own, but don't hold me to that
* [9:21] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: we want them in the OGP grid too
* [9:21] [[User:BlueWall Slade|BlueWall Slade]]: grins
* [9:21] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: we want to be there . . .
* [9:23] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Well, the dev team is working on the submitted issues. I haven't had a chance to check in with tess or leyla today to see about progress
* [9:23] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Our huddle isn't for another hour and a half.
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: whats a huddle
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: :D
* [9:24] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: speaking of that, the Enus linden office hours for PyOGP is at 9:30 if anyone is a Python programmer
* [9:24] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: But on Monday's huddle we'll prolly go over the outstanding issues.
* [9:24] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: any last questions today?
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: yes
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: got one
* [9:24] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: :D
* [9:25] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: if we are a gridnaught member on this then shoudln't we be one on aditi... cough beta viewer
* [9:25] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: you have to log into aditi with the regular viewer and acept the invitation to the group
* [9:26] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: kk
* [9:26] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: perefim, yes, you should join the group on aditi as well
* [9:26] [[User:Perefim Cao|Perefim Cao]]: allright.
* [9:26] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Sai is always faster...
* [9:26] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: then you can get into the open grid with the beta viewr
* [9:26] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: fastest spammer in the World
* [9:26] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: :-)
* [9:26] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Ok everyone. Have a great weekend. Don't reveal the location of Homeworld.
* [9:27] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: homeworld...
* [9:27] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: ty
* [9:27] [[User:Twa Hinkle|Twa Hinkle]]: i just crashed on dahlia's sim.. i was in two places at once.. hmm.. not good
* [9:27] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: I'll post thie transcript on the wiki, Peri, unless you want to
* [9:27] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: go ahead, Sai, thx
* [9:27] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: and now, heading to the Pyogp/Enus office hours meeting
* [9:27] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: Pyogp huddle for all you pythoners
* [9:27] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: cheers all
* [9:27] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: meetings, meetings!
* [9:28] [[User:Periapse Linden|Periapse Linden]]: bye!
* [9:28] [[User:Mirt Tenk|Mirt Tenk]]: take care
* [9:28] [[User:Strawberry Fride|Strawberry Fride]]: enjoy the snakes
* [9:28] [[User:Saijanai Kuhn|Saijanai Kuhn]]: OH, and IM me if you're interestied in helping design the new protocols. I do group invites for AW Groupies, the inworld group for the AWG
* [9:29] [[User:Dahlia Trimble|Dahlia Trimble]]: bye all :)

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Saijanai Kuhn: New page: * [8:59] Periapse Linden: Hello everybody * [8:59] Perefim Cao: Hello everyone. * [8:59] BlueWall Slade: Hello! * [...