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== List of Speakers ==
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|Andrew Linden
|Falcon Linden
|Fancy Detector
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|Flip Idlemind
|Jonathan Yap
|JoyofRLC Acker
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|Kadah Coba
|Kelly Linden
|Kitto Flora
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|Leonel Iceghost
|Qie Niangao
|Renae Daines
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|Sahkolihaa Contepomi
|Simon Linden
|Squirrel Wood
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|Vernes Veranes
|Vincent Nacon
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== Transcript ==
[12:01] Sahkolihaa Contepomi<nowiki>: hey Andrew.</nowiki>

[12:01] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Hello</nowiki>

[12:01] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Sorry I couldn't attend last Friday's meeting. I had to depart early.</nowiki>

[12:01] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: I'll try to publish those transcripts today.</nowiki>

[12:02] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: There will be no User Group meeting this Friday.</nowiki>

[12:02] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: All of us Linden's will be on vacation on Friday.</nowiki>

[12:03] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: So the news...</nowiki>

[12:04] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: I did send an email out for an update on enabling return of encroaching objects on mainland, but haven't received a reply yet.</nowiki>

[12:04] Kadah Coba<nowiki>: I don't remember seeing such an email...</nowiki>

[12:04] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: I also started to talk to others about the idea of exposing the world map tiles via more predictable locations (via http)</nowiki>

[12:05] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: however I realized I've forgotten some of the details of how the system currently works</nowiki>

[12:05] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: and was therefore having trouble explaining to the others how it should be *different*</nowiki>

[12:06] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: so I was hoping someone here could refresh my memory on how the tiles are currently available and what would be the most ideal way to access them.</nowiki>

[12:06] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Finally, I'll mention now before I forget...</nowiki>

[12:07] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: The region Sardar was eventually moved to LeTigre last week, but they requested that it move back to Magnum yesterday.</nowiki>

[12:07] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: I hear that the weapons were breaking in new ways. I was hoping someone who knows more about it might be here to give me some more details.</nowiki>

[12:08] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: end of news and my own agenda items</nowiki>

[12:08] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Regarding the map tiles...</nowiki>

[12:08] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: There were requests to make the map tiles downloadable via more predictable names, something like:</nowiki>

[12:09] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: maps.secondlife.com/gridx_gridy_lod.jpg ?</nowiki>

[12:09] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: where (gridx, gridy) = location of region in the grid</nowiki>

[12:10] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: and lod would be the level-of-detail of the tile</nowiki>

[12:10] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: so... I thought the issue was with the in-world textures corresponding to the maps, currently accessed through an external server. (or maybe that was a different issue?)</nowiki>

[12:10] Kadah Coba<nowiki>: I think that would work, but I have no use for such a thing :P</nowiki>

[12:11] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: AFAIK, the MapAPI already supplies jpgs at findable locations, via http</nowiki>

[12:11] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Oh hrm. What that the issue? The desire for the in-world map textures to be guessable assets?</nowiki>

[12:11] Fancy Detector<nowiki>: Kelly Linden has arrived!</nowiki>

[12:12] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: any way you can make it an uuid to use from scripts?</nowiki>

[12:12] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: I'd like that</nowiki>

[12:12] Simon Linden<nowiki>: </nowiki>http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Map_API_Introduction

[12:12] Simon Linden<nowiki>: (fwiw)</nowiki>

[12:12] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: well, suppose we designated region_id.texture as the location of that region's map tile...</nowiki>

[12:13] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: and suppose we updated that texture in the asset system</nowiki>

[12:13] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: that is, instead of just writing once we updated it dialy or on some schedule</nowiki>

[12:13] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: SL's texture asset system pipeline is designed to be cached at several stages</nowiki>

[12:14] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: so if you looked at that texture on Tuesday</nowiki>

[12:14] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: and they also looked on Wed or Thurs</nowiki>

[12:14] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: then the cache may not have updated</nowiki>

[12:14] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: and it is possible for that texture to be cached for a week or more</nowiki>

[12:15] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: depending on how it is used, and how well the variosu caches along the way are working</nowiki>

[12:15] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: That is, if you viewed that texture in your viewer daily... it may be that your viewer cache would keep it around indefinitely.</nowiki>

[12:16] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: oh hey, Kitto Flora is here. Long time no see.</nowiki>

[12:16] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: I think Simon had some news about SVC-22.</nowiki>

[12:16] JIRA-helper<nowiki>: </nowiki>http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-22

<nowiki>[#SVC-22] Vehicles crossing region borders aren't always treated as vehicles and can get incorrectly returned if the destination parcel is no-entry or parcel-full</nowiki>

[12:16] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: no more sailors?</nowiki>

[12:16] Vincent Nacon<nowiki> acrosses his fingers</nowiki>

[12:16] Kitto Flora<nowiki> came to ask about KeyframeAnimation</nowiki>

[12:16] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: Andrew, I have an IRC link to jira updates and have been going nutty seeing so many comments about svc-7459. Could you look into that one (or, if you already are, mark the jira accordingly) please?</nowiki>

[12:16] JIRA-helper<nowiki>: </nowiki>http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-7459

<nowiki>[#SVC-7459] Drop In Traffic Calculations</nowiki>

[12:17] Simon Linden<nowiki>: well, there's a claim in SVC-22 that it's fixed</nowiki>

[12:17] Simon Linden<nowiki>: The LeTigre branch has some new object-region crossing code that checks permissions earlier than it used to, so I have guarded hopes that it is indeed fixed</nowiki>

[12:18] Kitto Flora<nowiki> thinks about who may see the SVC22 problem.</nowiki>

[12:18] Simon Linden<nowiki>: But given the legendary status of that bug, I hesitate to claim that ... so if anyone feels like testing and seeing if that's true, I'm interested in what you find</nowiki>

[12:19] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: I'm not currently looking into 7459, but I saw some internal email traffic about it, so I believe there is some attention being paid.</nowiki>

[12:19] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: I do see vehicle loss due to 'parcel full' occasionally</nowiki>

[12:20] Simon Linden<nowiki>: The new code should affect permissions, not neccessarily limits due to prim counts</nowiki>

[12:20] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: Maybe 7459 could be marked as acknowleged to quiet people down a bit</nowiki>

[12:21] Simon Linden<nowiki>: Good point, Jonathan</nowiki>

[12:21] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: That is good advice Jonathan. I'll try to find out more internally and find someone to post there.</nowiki>

[12:21] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: Thank you Simon and Andrew</nowiki>

[12:21] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: In all my apps, permissions are always correct - that is I ensure that the next parcel is always accessible. And it is.</nowiki>

[12:22] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: How anyone expects parvcel prims limits to be bypassed for a 'vehicle' that has no rider - beats me.</nowiki>

[12:23] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: Crossing regions while sitting on a prim works by unsitting you, moving you and the object to the other region, and then re-sitting you, right?</nowiki>

[12:23] Simon Linden<nowiki>: Right, that's basically what happens under the hood</nowiki>

[12:24] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: So, the auto return could kick in during that brief moment when you're not technically sitting on the vehicle?</nowiki>

[12:25] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: I thought we checked for pending re-seat of avatar in the auto-return code, but I'd have to look at the code to verify.</nowiki>

[12:25] Simon Linden<nowiki>: Right, that's how I'd expect that problem to occur</nowiki>

[12:26] Simon Linden<nowiki>: But I'd have to look at the code as well. Of course, it's all _supposed_ to work right :P</nowiki>

[12:26] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Kitto, you had a question about keyframe animation?</nowiki>

[12:27] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Yes - is what we have now for that function 'how its going to be" or can we expect improvements?</nowiki>

[12:28] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Oh btw, we do have someone working on making avatar + vehicle region crossings atomic, which would eliminate a parcel autoreturn race condition if it existed.</nowiki>

[12:28] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Kitto, perhaps you could summarize the way it is now for me? I'm not too familiar with the script API for keyframe animation.</nowiki>

[12:29] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Also, what you would like to see changed/added?</nowiki>

[12:29] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Er - thats a long explanation...</nowiki>

[12:29] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: I remember Falcon (I think) saying it was designed so that making improvements to it would be easy</nowiki>

[12:29] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: It takes a list of position,rotation,time,......</nowiki>

[12:29] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: s/easy/possible/</nowiki>

[12:29] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: position by region instead of local</nowiki>

[12:30] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: and does a llSetPos() type move on the object , linearly moving between the waypoints in the requested time</nowiki>

[12:30] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Vincent, that region position statement was something for the wishlist right?</nowiki>

[12:30] Meeter<nowiki>: Timecheck : User Group is half over</nowiki>

[12:30] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: The current problem is - it fails at border crossings!</nowiki>

[12:30] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: yeah, was brought up on the wiki page in talk</nowiki>

[12:30] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: (Dej vu??)</nowiki>

[12:31] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: The object will stop mid list, at 2M outside the region its in, and not make any border crossing</nowiki>

[12:31] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Essentailly, I suppose - Keyfarem Anim. fails to push an object into the next region.</nowiki>

[12:32] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Ok the region crossing problem should definitely be fixed. I thought it was working.</nowiki>

[12:32] Fancy Detector<nowiki>: Falcon Linden has arrived!</nowiki>

[12:32] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: maybe Falcon can answer that</nowiki>

[12:33] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Nah - have to detect failure to cross then hammer the object sith multiple llSetPus() to get it into next region - sometimes it takes 3 meters of shove to get it into next region</nowiki>

[12:33] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Falcon. Kitto Flora says keyframe animation motion fails at region crossings. Is that a known issue?</nowiki>

[12:33] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: IE it dont trasition until 5M outside the old region</nowiki>

[12:34] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Ahoy folks</nowiki>

[12:34] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: heya</nowiki>

[12:34] JoyofRLC Acker<nowiki>: Ahoy! :)</nowiki>

[12:34] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Thought I'd swing by today. I was wondering if anybody's had a chance to try out llSetKeyframedMotion on some interesting builds</nowiki>

[12:34] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: or test the new limits in llCastRay</nowiki>

[12:35] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Falcon, scroll back for a question about keyframe animation failing at region crossings.</nowiki>

[12:35] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: He might not be able to scroll back</nowiki>

[12:35] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: he wasn't in chat range at the time</nowiki>

[12:35] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: [12:33] Andrew Linden: Falcon. Kitto Flora says keyframe animation motion fails at region crossings. Is that a known issue?</nowiki>

[12:35] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: it shouldn't and didn't fail in any of my or maestro's tests</nowiki>

[12:35] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: llSetKeyframedMotion - I have vehicle that runs around the SLRR rail tracks - works well except border crossings all fail - or >90% fail. It always needs ashove.</nowiki>

[12:36] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: that's strange. Can you repro it with a KFM_PING_PONG animation across a single border?</nowiki>

[12:36] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Dont know. I can try</nowiki>

[12:37] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: Quick question, is keyframe motion everywhere now, or still on an RC?</nowiki>

[12:37] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: cool. Create the simplest repro you can, open a jira with it, and Maestro will check it out</nowiki>

[12:37] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: FLIP: everywhere</nowiki>

[12:37] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: Wooty</nowiki>

[12:37] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: will it work in huds someday?</nowiki>

[12:38] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Also happy to see that there don't appear to be any physics bugs introduced by the Havok 2011.2 upgrade. W00t!</nowiki>

[12:38] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Leonel: not likely, it's intended for interacting with the physics system</nowiki>

[12:38] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Fundamentally, it's tied to an object's rigid body and attachments don't have one</nowiki>

[12:39] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: That is, attachments don't have a collision shape in the physics engine.</nowiki>

[12:39] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: something with that for huds would be amazing</nowiki>

[12:39] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: like that*</nowiki>

[12:39] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: so many things would be amazing :)</nowiki>

[12:39] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: algo it wouldn't hurt framed color changing and other stuff :P</nowiki>

[12:39] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: also</nowiki>

[12:40] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: I vote for not providing that for HUDs and instead providing a nice API for HTML 5 huds</nowiki>

[12:40] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: html is blocked by firewalls</nowiki>

[12:40] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: first make it so the ip is hidden, so we can use it freely</nowiki>

[12:40] Kitto Flora<nowiki>: Play AngryBirds on your HUD?</nowiki>

[12:41] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: firewall as firestorm firewall I mean</nowiki>

[12:41] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: There is no actual dev work going on on that idea as far as I know, btw</nowiki>

[12:42] Simon Linden<nowiki>: You've seen the demo HTML hud, right?</nowiki>

[12:42] Simon Linden<nowiki>: </nowiki>http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/HTML_HUD_Demo

[12:42] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: yes, it asks an ugly permission to allow or deny in 3rd party viewers</nowiki>

[12:42] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: what about attachment?</nowiki>

[12:43] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Simon: yeah, I did</nowiki>

[12:43] Simon Linden<nowiki>: You should bug some 3rd party viewer developers :)</nowiki>

[12:43] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Vincent: what about attachment?</nowiki>

[12:43] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: instead of hud?</nowiki>

[12:43] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: they do that because otherwise people collect ips</nowiki>

[12:43] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: to ban</nowiki>

[12:43] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: from states</nowiki>

[12:43] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Actually I think a keyframed HUD/attachment would be a nice feature. I'm willing to ponder how it might be done, but I can think of many things I'd like to fix before tackling that.</nowiki>

[12:44] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: is there any way the ip of the user could be hidden for the hud?</nowiki>

[12:44] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: without physic, of course</nowiki>

[12:44] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: mainly for display use</nowiki>

[12:44] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: a new event</nowiki>

[12:44] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: or something</nowiki>

[12:45] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Ah, Leonel is asking for IP-address obfuscation for HTML huds</nowiki>

[12:45] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Vincent: right. Yeah, I still think a generalized HUD/UI system is a better use of dev resources, though it would use more of them...</nowiki>

[12:46] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: you could show the IP of the server, so 3rd party viewers would allow free use of http huds</nowiki>

[12:46] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: oh I don't meant for hud</nowiki>

[12:46] JoyofRLC Acker<nowiki>: may i ask a question ?</nowiki>

[12:46] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Ask JoyofRLC.</nowiki>

[12:46] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: attachment, like your falcon bird could move around smooth motion</nowiki>

[12:47] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: oh, I see</nowiki>

[12:47] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: yeah, that would be nice.</nowiki>

[12:47] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Regarding hidden viewer IP addresses... LL would have to run some sort of http proxy service. A bick stack of proxies.</nowiki>

[12:47] JoyofRLC Acker<nowiki>: ... my apologies i think i arrived in the moddle of something, this talk about HUDs - it sounds intriguing; is there somewhere i can see what its about, i looked at the demo quickly but i thnk id need a bit of an itnroduction</nowiki>

[12:47] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: but of course... I know some people gonna want that on HUD as well but I'd agree about HTML5</nowiki>

[12:47] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: why a proxy, just intercept the request to the ip flag</nowiki>

[12:48] Vernes Veranes<nowiki>: traffic would still need to be rerouted.</nowiki>

[12:48] Jonathan Yap<nowiki>: How is this html5 suggestion different than using Media on a Prim (with maybe an updated to qtwebkit)?</nowiki>

[12:48] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: less resource on SL's server</nowiki>

[12:49] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: jonathan: media on a prim doesn't allow, e.g., transparent backgrounds. It also doesn't provide a mechanism for interacting with the world</nowiki>

[12:50] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: the kind of system I'm envisioning would offer some way of interacting with SL from inside the UI. But I haven't spent much time thinking about it</nowiki>

[12:50] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: A summary for JoyofRLC: we were talking about keyframed animation, someone asked if we could have it for HUD's/attachments, Falcon replied he'd rather see HTML-5 on HUD instead. Simon pointed at the scripted HTML-HUD demo mini-map example.</nowiki>

[12:50] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: just don't limit it to Flash, like what BlueMars did.... muhaha!</nowiki>

[12:51] JoyofRLC Acker<nowiki>: Thanks andrew.</nowiki>

[12:52] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: So... returning to Maps for a moment, but this time specifically about the MapAPI ... (I mumbled about this a few meetings back) ... will there be a problem next year, when Google starts charging to use their Map API? The API-generated SL maps have a Google copyright, even though obviously not Google's geo data, so... not sure if LL will suddenly have a big bill to pay Google each month or not.</nowiki>

[12:52] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: Media on a prim from LSL scripts has decent interaction with the world (back to the LSL script). The transparency part is a problem, but I don't think it is unsolvable.</nowiki>

[12:52] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: Google needs more money of course. Just like Microsoft does</nowiki>

[12:53] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Qie, that is a good question. Dunno the answer. I"ll have to ask some others in LL.</nowiki>

[12:53] Squirrel Wood<nowiki>: Everyone needs more, more, more. That's what its all about :p</nowiki>

[12:53] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: Thanks. I appreciate it.</nowiki>

[12:53] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: they don't do it for themselves, they need money for they grand-grand-grand sons</nowiki>

[12:54] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: college</nowiki>

[12:54] Laggi Meeroo whispers<nowiki>: Simon Linden will you please pick me up and snuggle me?</nowiki>

[12:55] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: html would be awersome if we can just use as we want for everybody, without perms or things like that</nowiki>

[12:55] Meeter<nowiki>: Timecheck : User Group is almost over</nowiki>

[12:55] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: for webs hosted enterily in LL, I don't see why it needs the ip</nowiki>

[12:56] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: making you JIRA feature for the Region/Local flag, Falcon</nowiki>

[12:57] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: So, Kelly, I remember you mentioning something about a really short llSleep inside while() loops and whatnot being much nicer to the sim</nowiki>

[12:57] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: yup</nowiki>

[12:57] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: Is that still up-coming, or is it currently true</nowiki>

[12:58] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Vincent: no, not that. I meant for the KFM_SHIFT stuff</nowiki>

[12:58] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: A while(1) llSleep(0.001); should be nearly as performant but way nicer on the sim than a while(1) ; especially if you are waiting for something that won't change while the script runs.</nowiki>

[12:58] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Vincent: I'm not adding a region/local flag--it would complicate serialization which is already kind of touchy</nowiki>

[12:58] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: Flip: I think that is on letigre.</nowiki>

[12:58] Squirrel Wood<nowiki>: heh. I still have mono scripts that have a scripted prim color chane that never gets done.</nowiki>

[12:58] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: um... that's what it was about, Falcon...</nowiki>

[12:58] Squirrel Wood<nowiki>: change</nowiki>

[12:59] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: what did you think it was?</nowiki>

[12:59] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: Kelly you did it so llSleep(0.001) didn't skip a frame, and then you undid that?</nowiki>

[13:00] Meeter<nowiki>: Thank you for coming to the Server User Group</nowiki>

[13:00] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: vincent: well, there were two suggestions in that thread. One was about providing a flag for local/absolute coordinates. The other was about providing two extra parameters to let you shift or rotate a whole list</nowiki>

[13:01] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: Leonel: I think I did fix a bug in that.</nowiki>

[13:01] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Looks like OH are over and I need to hassle someone about something, so I've gotta run</nowiki>

[13:01] Vincent Nacon<nowiki>: seeya</nowiki>

[13:01] Flip Idlemind<nowiki>: Have fun</nowiki>

[13:01] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: Cheers all! And, if you're in a country that celebrates it, enjoy your Thanksgiving</nowiki>

[13:01] Leonel Iceghost<nowiki>: what happened.. people didn't want the boost in velocity?</nowiki>

[13:01] Kelly Linden<nowiki>: o/</nowiki>

[13:01] Falcon Linden<nowiki>: (And if you're not, enjoy the day anyway?)</nowiki>

[13:02] Squirrel Wood<nowiki>: Enjoy!</nowiki>

[13:02] Sahkolihaa Contepomi<nowiki>: See you Falcon, Kelly, Simon & Andrew.</nowiki>

[13:02] Squirrel Wood<nowiki>: ...</nowiki>

[13:02] Andrew Linden<nowiki>: Thanks for coming everyone.</nowiki>

[13:02] Renae Daines<nowiki>: And if not, use it as an excuse for a nice meal =p</nowiki>

[13:02] Squirrel Wood<nowiki>: lag chat</nowiki>

[13:02] Qie Niangao<nowiki>: Thanks all... have fun!</nowiki>

 
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