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== List of Speakers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#0000b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Barrington DeSantis&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;font color=#00b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Dahlia Trimble&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#46008d&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jane1 Bookmite&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#5a00b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Kennylex Luckless&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#00b5b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Motor Loon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#b500b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Nalates Urriah&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;font color=#5ab500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;SonicAnd Miles&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#00b55a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Theresa Tennyson&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;font color=#8d008d&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Tiberious Neruda&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Transcript ==&lt;br /&gt;
[16:01] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: hello all&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:01] &amp;lt;font color=#b500b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Nalates Urriah&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Hey Toy&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:01] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I will only get to stay for part of the meeting - a major concert starting right now as well&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:01] &amp;lt;font color=#5a00b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Kennylex Luckless&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Andrew... Go fix Internet, it not work for me :-)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:01] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: PS - if u Lindens want to possible witness one of many busy sim crashes.... u might witness one this hour if u came&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:02] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Have you tried unplugging everything, offering sacrifices, and plugging it back in?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:02] &amp;lt;font color=#0000b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Barrington DeSantis&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Sod....and rl calls.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:02] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: there is 43 there now and will likely end up being about 70&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:02] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Ok I&amp;#039;ll get right on that Kennylex.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:02] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Cleaning optical fiber connectors by licking them is not productive.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:02] &amp;lt;font color=#5a00b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Kennylex Luckless&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Yes, I did unplug internet, but then it was even harder to surf.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:03] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Starting with trying to make some small improvement to the SL interestlist.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:03] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Andrew, does that mean I will need to fill in my interests in my profile to see anything?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:04] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: So, my code is still up on the aditi grid (Ahern) and you can see it not working there.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:04] &amp;lt;font color=#00b5b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Motor Loon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: lols&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:04] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Although, it is working a little better this week.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:04] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: There is a bug where some linked sets don&amp;#039;t all show up... missing child prims.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:04] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I&amp;#039;m working on that one now.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:05] &amp;lt;font color=#00b5b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Motor Loon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: putting linkset pictures on milkcartons?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:05] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Yesterday I had a bug... sim performance for a crowd of 32 avatars went bad... by about 1000%.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:05] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I fixed that one this morning.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:06] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Originally I was hoping to actually make performance improvements.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:06] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Some would say that happens on the main channel on Agni.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:06] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Now I&amp;#039;d just be happy to reach performance parity, but with cleaner code.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:06] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I&amp;#039;m partly joking, but only partly.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:07] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Some benchmarks... yeah parity would be nice.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:08] &amp;lt;font color=#00b55a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Theresa Tennyson&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: You could try putting it on Aditi-Morris this week - that probably gets the biggest crowds.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:08] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Anyway, that is what I&amp;#039;m working on, and I&amp;#039;m making some progress.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:08] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Yeah, not until I&amp;#039;ve killed the known bugs.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:08] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: However, whenever I enter this region, the floor of this house is one of the last things to load.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:08] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: put it on the help / welcome sims&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:08] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ;)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:08] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: sorry, brb, need to look at a bug&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:09] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I&amp;#039;m hoping to improve the sorting somewhat.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:09] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Bummer, I was going to have Simon talk about pending updates and kick back for a few min...&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:10] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ok, so what is getting updated? I&amp;#039;ll look for info in my email.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:10] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ... back&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:10] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I can discuss the rollouts and rollbacks&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:10] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Go ahead Simon.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:11] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: On Wednesday things didn&amp;#039;t go smoothly as we rolled a maintenace update out&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:11] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It turns out there was a slight change to the behavior for llSensor(), and it no longer returned objects sorted by distance&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:12] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: As a result, some SL pets had trouble finding their food, and some, umm, partners to make other SL pets&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:12] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: So that was rolled back&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:12] &amp;lt;font color=#00b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Dahlia Trimble&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: OMG no food or love :(&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:12] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It was sad, indeed&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:12] &amp;lt;font color=#5ab500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;SonicAnd Miles&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: if im in that pic it will be L$500 lol -jk&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:13] &amp;lt;font color=#5a00b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Kennylex Luckless&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: YES, starving horses!&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:13] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: However, the large group work Baker did had some people eager to try it out&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:13] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: So we set up a few regions running that&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:13] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: it also affected combat apps, defense apps and security apps too&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:13] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: greetings:) oops. almost forgot to come:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:13] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: but it was first brought to attn with the breedables&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:13] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: yeah, it was a bad change&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:14] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: If you open up the Map window and search for &amp;quot;Snack&amp;quot; you&amp;#039;ll find 4 sandboxes with that new code&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:14] &amp;lt;font color=#00b55a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Theresa Tennyson&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: They look like HUGE blondie-brownies.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:15] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I&amp;#039;ll defer all questions like that to Oskar&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:15] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I guess that wasn&amp;#039;t a question, but I think they&amp;#039;re his&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:16] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: That has been good, however, as we found that some of the operations people would then do on large groups were causing trouble&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:16] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Kelly and I spent most of today fixing those&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:16] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It&amp;#039;s scheduled for another try at an RC channel next Wednesday&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:16] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: The sensor problem has been fixed&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:17] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: hrm... there seems to be a texture problem with the map generator&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:17] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: The code that&amp;#039;s on LeTigre now will get another update with some fixes too&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:17] &amp;lt;font color=#00b5b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Motor Loon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: oh joy&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:17] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: There isn&amp;#039;t a 3rd version ready&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:18] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: On Tuesday next week the code that&amp;#039;s in BlueSteel and Magnum today is getting promoted to the main channel&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:19] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: That has no externally visible changes but has some system level adjustments&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:19] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: That&amp;#039;s it for server release news&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:19] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Ok, I guess the table is open.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:20] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ok Siman and Andres.... BUG 355.... any one lookin at the network issues on the sims&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:21] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: keep racking up the evidence that the network layer on the sims or platform are staling out... and large event sims keep crashing or staling&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:21] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I want to see the code that&amp;#039;s going to RC next week get out there ... I think it has fixes for some of the conditions that get your regions messed up like that&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:22] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: could it have something to do with region idiling?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:22] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Which RC is that Simon? Magnum? or BlueSteel and LeTigre?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:22] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: i have someone watching the event right now with about 70 ppl at it now&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:23] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It should go onto Magnum&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:24] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Has there been any progress on caps failing? I&amp;#039;ve had a particular region lose caps everyday for the past 5 days. In fact I just filed a ticket on it and Reed Linden just now got caps turned back on. I was told its a simulator host issue.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:24] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: CAP falling?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:24] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: IM cap?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:25] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: regions failign to grant capabilities&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:25] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: We&amp;#039;ve looked into it and there are a few different causes. The code that&amp;#039;s rolling to the main grid next week has some work for one of those&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:25] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Magnum appears to be scheduled to pick up a maintenance project that has been in the works for a long time.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:25] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ohh yes that problem&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:25] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-498&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt; &amp;lt;---for those who can read jira pages you can see what all is impacted as I reported it there&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:26] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: the most notible is that prim return is impossibel for everyone&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:26] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: yes i saw that last weekend - the owner of an art gallery sim could not return a prim to an out going artist&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:27] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: the artist had to come and take it&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:27] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: We&amp;#039;ll see what happens on Magnum. We think we made an improvement there, but we know that not all modes are closed. We&amp;#039;re still working on the various causes.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:27] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: yeah, that&amp;#039;s a lot of trouble&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:27] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I get annoyed when inventory cannot be dragged to the ground when HTTP Inventory is enabled but can when it is not.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:28] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Is that this related?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:28] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: afaik, no&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:28] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Hmm, I&amp;#039;m surprised there&amp;#039;s a difference there&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:29] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Ardy, you mean when you disable HTTP inventory on your viewer the rez works, but it fails when you enable HTTP inventory?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:29] &amp;lt;font color=#00b55a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Theresa Tennyson&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Sometimes with HTTP inventory it never stops &amp;quot;loading&amp;quot; even when all your items are accounted for.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:29] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: u can select that as an option?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:29] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: WHen the disallowed symbol shows up I disable HTTP Inventory then try again a short time later and it works.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:30] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Andrew, yes.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:30] &amp;lt;font color=#808080&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Meeter&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Timecheck : User Group is half over&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:31] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Ok, I _think_ that is related to failing CAPs, so we hope it will happen less often on Magnum after Wed&amp;#039;s update.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:32] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Simon.... when could we get a response on the VLM development priority scheduling?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:32] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Andrew, thanks.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:32] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: are VLMs a 2013 planned development?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:32] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: longer?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:32] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: shorter?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:33] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: vlm?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:33] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I can&amp;#039;t give you any predictions on that one, Toy. It&amp;#039;s on a list of features that would be nice to have&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:33] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: VLM = virtual landmarks&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:33] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ah&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:33] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ohh i dont like hearing &amp;quot;nice to have&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:33] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: just like large regions would be &amp;#039;nice to have&amp;#039; ;)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:34] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: and when will LL figure out the failing notice Attachments problem... this is real annoying ... STILL&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:34] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Maybe, if we can&amp;#039;t have larger regions we should make everything else smaller.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:34] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: lol&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:34] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It&amp;#039;s much more possible (and a lot easier) than large regions&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:35] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: There are multiple issues with Attachments in notices -- I did an analysis of that about 2 years ago&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:35] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: scale everything down to 1/10 the current size :P&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:35] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: micro cities&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:36] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: i think LL is still trying to figure out if its a Sim or Viewer issue&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:36] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Toysoldier -- it is both, but mostly a sim issue, made worse by viewer 2 changes&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:36] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: The real fix will need changes at both ends&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:36] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: viewer 2? seems like it showed up with viewer 3&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:37] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: same thing&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:37] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ohh&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:37] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: no, it was always present, but viewer 2 made it worse&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:37] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: what is the &amp;quot;failing notice attachment problem&amp;quot;?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:37] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: 3.x was used just because they were almost out of 2.x #s to use&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:37] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: well it seemed to explode in visibility this summer&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:38] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: it should be a priority to fix&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:38] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I thought 3.3 started with mesh release&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:38] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Andrew, you sign in, get a group notice with an attachment, try to get the attachement, and ... nothing&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:38] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: *3.#&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:38] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: before performance improvements&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:38] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I think Kelly (or Simon?) looked into this a while ago and saw what was happening on the server&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:39] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: its horrid Andrew! and u cant click on the attached in the group window either after the notice is not able to offer it to u&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:39] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Part of the trouble are stale/expire session IDs&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:39] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: yeah, I seem to remember a problem with something timing out on those notices&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:39] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: after being online for a while - the problem during the session seems to go away&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:40] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: after 1h of the GN displayed, the item is no longer avalible&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:40] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: and you have to reopen the GN to get to the item&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:40] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Tank, that is the server expiring the session ID&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:40] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Ok, I won&amp;#039;t comment on that bug. I don&amp;#039;t know much about what is going on there.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:40] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: but terrible for club and concert venue hosts and store owners ... trying to send out LMs or notecards for something happening live&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:41] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: i know, thats what simon was thinking of i think&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:41] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I think if a region crashes the session ID is lost, too, so it might be &amp;lt; 1 hr&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:41] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: and the UI knows the attachment is not available since it shades out the buttons&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:41] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: There are viewer UI issues as well&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:42] &amp;lt;font color=#b500b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Nalates Urriah&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I hate all the semi-dead LM&amp;#039;s and Attachments I cannot open just after login...&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:42] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: agreed Nal.. I have to just delete them and then use the SEARCH to find where the LM is&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:42] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: how can landmark be semi-dead?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:42] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: landmarks*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: because as an attachment - it cannot be clicked on&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: You can go to the group notices panel and get them that way, but that is pretty tedious&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Send SLURLs in the notices? I hate all that landmark clutter building up in inventory.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: its in the notice or the group info but unusable&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#b500b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Nalates Urriah&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Rex, It won&amp;#039;t open when clicked on... but in some cases will go into inventory. It can be clicked in inventory and then it works.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It&amp;#039;s a matter of linking up what&amp;#039;s in the notice back to the actual landmark&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: i have a solution for that Ardy..... VLM s !!!&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: lol&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Nope&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:43] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: THose look like they will pile up too.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:44] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: they need an expiration date:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:44] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: And the fact that the viewer now records notices, so they are there when you log in again, only makes it worse&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:44] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Rex, I might get one I want to keep.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:45] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ok well i wanna catch 15 minutes of this show.....&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:45] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: later all....&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:45] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ok we need a temp folder, everything in it gets deleted if it gets older than one week. if u want to keep something u move to different folder&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:46] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: tc&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:46] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: PS simon - if someone at LL can update JIRA BUG 355&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:46] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: it would be nice&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:46] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: have a good weekend all&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:46] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: What do you want added? That we think the next code will help?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:46] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Rex, I just rarely click the attachments so hadn&amp;#039;t noticed the bug.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:46] &amp;lt;font color=#b500b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Nalates Urriah&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: bye Toy&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:46] &amp;lt;font color=#b5005a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Toysoldier Thor&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: bye Nal !:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:48] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I could have &amp;quot;updated&amp;quot; it but, yeah, what to put there?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:48] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: On the release notes theres this: &amp;quot;Thanks to a newly added capability the simulator can now report information about script permissions granted to objects within a region. A future viewer update will use this. &amp;quot; Can you elaborate on what all this entails?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:49] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Release notes for Magnum&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:50] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: ah, yeah, that&amp;#039;s pretty nice ... there&amp;#039;s a new window that lists objects in the region that have been granted permissions by you&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:50] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: So you can find anything that has animate permissions, for example&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:50] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: So that window is sitting in some beta viewer Simon?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:50] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Is there going to be a corresponding &amp;quot;revoke permission&amp;quot; control?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:51] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It&amp;#039;s not in a beta viewer yet, but it&amp;#039;s in the backlog of changes we have waiting for the current beta to get out the door&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:51] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: and a possible block permissions from owner, sort of like a mute for any future granted permissions handling?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:52] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: that basically will shine for perms grabbers, heh&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:52] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: You should already be able to block the object&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:52] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Yes, there will be a &amp;quot;revoke&amp;quot; button&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:52] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: \o/ Simon, wonderful news&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:52] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It doesn&amp;#039;t block anything - it will just tell you what you&amp;#039;ve granted permissions to&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:52] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I mean a hands off, automatic approach, not having to do it for every object the owner rezzes, such as with perms grabbers&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:53] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I think if you block the owner you also block those messages&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:53] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I could though be out of the loop on how revoke recently works as I haven&amp;#039;t had to ue it ever afaik&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:53] &amp;lt;font color=#b5b500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Lucia Nightfire&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: *use&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:53] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: can we also have a lsl function that gets this list:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:53] &amp;lt;font color=#8d008d&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Tiberious Neruda&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: what about blocked avatars and getting group invites through?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:53] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: That has nothign to do with script permissions&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:54] &amp;lt;font color=#8d008d&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Tiberious Neruda&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: you can mute avs, but they&amp;#039;ll still be able to send you group invites (like bots are commonly used for)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:54] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: maybe somebody wants to retaliate against those that steal their perms:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:54] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: automatically:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:55] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Chart went nuts&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:55] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Tiberious, I thought I had fixed that one....maybe not, or maybe it is stalled at the approval stage&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:55] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: although somebody might endup shooting simon if one of his chairs doesn&amp;#039;t release the anim perms;)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:55] &amp;lt;font color=#808080&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Meeter&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Timecheck : User Group is almost over&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:55] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Interesting - it did. That thing has been running for ages&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:56] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It could have been accurate. I don&amp;#039;t know.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:56] &amp;lt;font color=#005ab5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Ardy Lay&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I just thought it looks like it went nuts.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:57] &amp;lt;font color=#00b55a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Theresa Tennyson&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: It felt like I was frozen for a second.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:59] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: That was real sim lag that the chart was noticing.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[16:59] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I didn&amp;#039;t see an obvious cause. I&amp;#039;ll have to dig into the logs for more clues.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:00] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: That chart looks so much better when I let it draw more particles&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:00] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I&amp;#039;ve fallen behind on posting the transcripts to the simulator user group.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:00] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: I&amp;#039;m going to try to update the transcripts after this one.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:00] &amp;lt;font color=#808080&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Meeter&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Thank you for coming to the Server User Group&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#8d0046&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jonathan Yap&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Thank you Simon and Andrew&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: u need a script to do it andrew&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#b50000&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;TankMaster Finesmith&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: thx for your time, simon and andrew&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: yeah, I have a script that does some of the work&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#440044&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Andrew Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: but I need to make the script better.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#00b55a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Theresa Tennyson&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: See everyone later!&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#b500b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Nalates Urriah&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: THx Lindens&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: tc all those leaving&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:01] &amp;lt;font color=#000f44&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Simon Linden&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: Thanks everyone for coming today and the good chat&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:02] &amp;lt;font color=#46008d&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Jane1 Bookmite&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: thanks Simon !&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:02] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: tc andrew simon&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:02] &amp;lt;font color=#b55a00&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Rex Cronon&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: tc everybody and have a nice day:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:02] &amp;lt;font color=#5a00b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Kennylex Luckless&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: No, go fix Internet so I can post images :-D&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:02] &amp;lt;font color=#5a00b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Kennylex Luckless&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: now.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:02] &amp;lt;font color=#5a00b5&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Kennylex Luckless&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: :-)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[17:02] &amp;lt;font color=#5ab500&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;SonicAnd Miles&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;: cya everyone :)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Andrew Linden</name></author>
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