Talk:Automated Mainland Vehicle Guidelines - Revision history

Yevad Doobie at 10:21, 28 July 2011

2011-07-28T10:21:11Z

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	::OK, so really things are back where they started; without clarification and guidelines from official sources. This means residents that are currently deploying such vehicles will continue to be harassed, heated discussions in forums will continue and the potential for unsavoury automated vehicles to be deployed by others will remain high...sigh. I hoped that by beginning this page I might have started a step towards some official clarification and bring a bit of peace to the grid. I had hoped that it would be a page that people could be pointed to and diffuse arguments before they turn into hate campaigns, or to point new vehicle creators to in order to help them avoid leaving themselves open to hate campaigns. Now it will just look like my opinion, my interpretation of what is acceptable and what is not, something I have tried hard to avoid. No matter what past evidence I include to back up these guidelines (more IM quotes are on the way I hope), it will remain a subjective page, serving no purpose other than to add more fuel to the fire. [[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 02:39, 27 July 2011 (PDT)		::OK, so really things are back where they started; without clarification and guidelines from official sources. This means residents that are currently deploying such vehicles will continue to be harassed, heated discussions in forums will continue and the potential for unsavoury automated vehicles to be deployed by others will remain high...sigh. I hoped that by beginning this page I might have started a step towards some official clarification and bring a bit of peace to the grid. I had hoped that it would be a page that people could be pointed to and diffuse arguments before they turn into hate campaigns, or to point new vehicle creators to in order to help them avoid leaving themselves open to hate campaigns. Now it will just look like my opinion, my interpretation of what is acceptable and what is not, something I have tried hard to avoid. No matter what past evidence I include to back up these guidelines (more IM quotes are on the way I hope), it will remain a subjective page, serving no purpose other than to add more fuel to the fire. [[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 02:39, 27 July 2011 (PDT)


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			I have edited this page to reflect Torleys advice above, mostly using phrases such as "implies that" and so forth, making the page more objective and less like a set of firm rules. I have added the help menus now and also linked it to the [http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Route_problem_guide route problem guide] page which I have previously created, so it can now be considered "live".

			Readers please note that this page is merely to try and help people and is not an endorsement of any kind on my part. I have tried to keep the personal views of myself and others out of this page, though if you feel I could have worded something better then please leave a comment here.

			I am considering adding a section with links to external pages which mention the vehicles from both angles (happy riders VS detractors), though after doing a quick google search I have found that there are many many pages and it may clutter this page too much. I would welcome some feedback about it though! [[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 03:21, 28 July 2011 (PDT)


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Yevad Doobie at 09:39, 27 July 2011

2011-07-27T09:39:00Z

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	This page is for genuine ~~rules~~ as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It is not a page for speculation or hearsay. The aims of this page are to try and dispel some of the myths and unsubstantiated claims made in forums and blogs regarding these vehicles and to try and disperse some of the heat from what is often a heavily polarised and sensitive subject.[[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 08:32, 24 July 2011 (PDT)		This page is for genuine guidelines as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It is not a page for speculation or hearsay. The aims of this page are to try and dispel some of the myths and unsubstantiated claims made in forums and blogs regarding these vehicles and to try and disperse some of the heat from what is often a heavily polarised and sensitive subject.[[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 08:32, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
	: Hey Yevad, Michael Linden let me know about this, too. As wiki co-admin, I appreciate you trying to make sense based on canonical structure. However, this page should be clearly marked that it — including the tips you've highlighted — are '''unofficial Resident interpretation''' of Linden policy to avoid confusing fellow Resis. Since discipline for violating Community Standards is handled case-by-case, best practices are helpful but not strictly enforced — therefore we ''can't'' endorse it. For reference, all official LL policy is in the [[Official Information and Policies Portal]]. {{TorSig}} <font size="1">on 2011-07-26 @ 1:53 PM Pacific</font>		: Hey Yevad, Michael Linden let me know about this, too. As wiki co-admin, I appreciate you trying to make sense based on canonical structure. However, this page should be clearly marked that it — including the tips you've highlighted — are '''unofficial Resident interpretation''' of Linden policy to avoid confusing fellow Resis. Since discipline for violating Community Standards is handled case-by-case, best practices are helpful but not strictly enforced — therefore we ''can't'' endorse it. For reference, all official LL policy is in the [[Official Information and Policies Portal]]. {{TorSig}} <font size="1">on 2011-07-26 @ 1:53 PM Pacific</font>

			::OK, so really things are back where they started; without clarification and guidelines from official sources. This means residents that are currently deploying such vehicles will continue to be harassed, heated discussions in forums will continue and the potential for unsavoury automated vehicles to be deployed by others will remain high...sigh. I hoped that by beginning this page I might have started a step towards some official clarification and bring a bit of peace to the grid. I had hoped that it would be a page that people could be pointed to and diffuse arguments before they turn into hate campaigns, or to point new vehicle creators to in order to help them avoid leaving themselves open to hate campaigns. Now it will just look like my opinion, my interpretation of what is acceptable and what is not, something I have tried hard to avoid. No matter what past evidence I include to back up these guidelines (more IM quotes are on the way I hope), it will remain a subjective page, serving no purpose other than to add more fuel to the fire. [[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 02:39, 27 July 2011 (PDT)

Torley Linden at 20:54, 26 July 2011

2011-07-26T20:54:11Z

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	This page is for genuine rules as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It is not a page for speculation or hearsay. The aims of this page are to try and dispel some of the myths and unsubstantiated claims made in forums and blogs regarding these vehicles and to try and disperse some of the heat from what is often a heavily polarised and sensitive subject.[[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 08:32, 24 July 2011 (PDT)		This page is for genuine rules as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It is not a page for speculation or hearsay. The aims of this page are to try and dispel some of the myths and unsubstantiated claims made in forums and blogs regarding these vehicles and to try and disperse some of the heat from what is often a heavily polarised and sensitive subject.[[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 08:32, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
			: Hey Yevad, Michael Linden let me know about this, too. As wiki co-admin, I appreciate you trying to make sense based on canonical structure. However, this page should be clearly marked that it — including the tips you've highlighted — are '''unofficial Resident interpretation''' of Linden policy to avoid confusing fellow Resis. Since discipline for violating Community Standards is handled case-by-case, best practices are helpful but not strictly enforced — therefore we ''can't'' endorse it. For reference, all official LL policy is in the [[Official Information and Policies Portal]]. {{TorSig}} <font size="1">on 2011-07-26 @ 1:53 PM Pacific</font>

Yevad Doobie: moved Talk:Automated Mainland Vehicle Rules to Talk:Automated Mainland Vehicle Guidelines: More appropriate name.

2011-07-24T19:38:35Z

moved Talk:Automated Mainland Vehicle Rules to Talk:Automated Mainland Vehicle Guidelines: More appropriate name.

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Yevad Doobie at 15:34, 24 July 2011

2011-07-24T15:34:40Z

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	This page is for genuine rules as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It is not a page for speculation or hearsay. The aims of this page are to try and dispel some of the myths and unsubstantiated claims made in forums and blogs regarding these vehicles and to try and disperse some of the heat from what is often a heavily polarised and sensitive subject.[[User:Yevad Doobie\|~~http://protected-routes.com/~~]] 08:32, 24 July 2011 (PDT)		This page is for genuine rules as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It is not a page for speculation or hearsay. The aims of this page are to try and dispel some of the myths and unsubstantiated claims made in forums and blogs regarding these vehicles and to try and disperse some of the heat from what is often a heavily polarised and sensitive subject.[[User:Yevad Doobie\|Yevad Doobie]] 08:32, 24 July 2011 (PDT)

Yevad Doobie: Created page with "This page is for genuine rules as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It…"

2011-07-24T15:32:52Z

Created page with "This page is for genuine rules as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It…"

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This page is for genuine rules as defined by Lindens. Information comes from the main automated/roaming mainland vehicle owners, as told to them by Lindens at various times. It is not a page for speculation or hearsay. The aims of this page are to try and dispel some of the myths and unsubstantiated claims made in forums and blogs regarding these vehicles and to try and disperse some of the heat from what is often a heavily polarised and sensitive subject.[[User:Yevad Doobie|http://protected-routes.com/]] 08:32, 24 July 2011 (PDT)