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Gwyneth Llewelyn: /* Links to community discussions are broken... */ new section

2023-02-15T15:25:37Z

Links to community discussions are broken...: new section

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	I've heard talk that if you purchase an item, say a hair, and have an alt, and then copy that hair and put it only on your alt, but DO NOT sell or distribute said hair, that is not a breach of the ToS. Is this correct? I would think this would be incorrect (despite a personal preference to being able to get the things I purchased onto other accounts, but oh well.) - Crimson Delgado		I've heard talk that if you purchase an item, say a hair, and have an alt, and then copy that hair and put it only on your alt, but DO NOT sell or distribute said hair, that is not a breach of the ToS. Is this correct? I would think this would be incorrect (despite a personal preference to being able to get the things I purchased onto other accounts, but oh well.) - Crimson Delgado

			== Links to community discussions are broken... ==

			The discussions around SL Bots in 2009 aren't either stored at the same URL, or have long ago been deleted by Linden Lab. Since the discussion around SL Bots pops up every few years or so, some updates would be nice.

			Here is a good starting point (itself referring to other conversations in the [[SLogosphere]]):

			https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2023/01/-bonnie-bots-update-second-life-data.html

			— [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|Gwyneth Llewelyn]] ([[User talk:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|talk]]) 07:25, 15 February 2023 (PST)

Zai Lynch: syntax slightly changed

2009-03-26T23:17:20Z

syntax slightly changed

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			==CopyBot==
	"CopyBot is an exploit on Second Life"		"CopyBot is an exploit on Second Life"

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	The ability to see objects and textures in Second Life and reproduce the exact same thing is not a bug, glitch, or vulnerability of the system. The idea that everyone has the same building tools and capabilities is in fact one of primary features of SL. While the use of the software for illegal or ToS breaking purposes can be called immoral, unethical, and illegal, the program itself is in no way an exploit. No one got paid an exploit bounty for discovering it.		The ability to see objects and textures in Second Life and reproduce the exact same thing is not a bug, glitch, or vulnerability of the system. The idea that everyone has the same building tools and capabilities is in fact one of primary features of SL. While the use of the software for illegal or ToS breaking purposes can be called immoral, unethical, and illegal, the program itself is in no way an exploit. No one got paid an exploit bounty for discovering it.

	== copybot not banned ==		=== copybot not banned ===

	Contrary to [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Help%3ACopyBot&diff=5397&oldid=4872 this edit], the CopyBot is '''not''' banned in SL. Banned is only the improper use of a CopyBot to copy other people's creations without permission. See this quote from [[User:Blue Linden\|Blue Linden]], taken from [[Blue's Office Hour - March 28th, 2008]]:		Contrary to [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Help%3ACopyBot&diff=5397&oldid=4872 this edit], the CopyBot is '''not''' banned in SL. Banned is only the improper use of a CopyBot to copy other people's creations without permission. See this quote from [[User:Blue Linden\|Blue Linden]], taken from [[Blue's Office Hour - March 28th, 2008]]:
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	== But... ==		=== But... ===

	I've heard talk that if you purchase an item, say a hair, and have an alt, and then copy that hair and put it only on your alt, but DO NOT sell or distribute said hair, that is not a breach of the ToS. Is this correct? I would think this would be incorrect (despite a personal preference to being able to get the things I purchased onto other accounts, but oh well.) - Crimson Delgado		I've heard talk that if you purchase an item, say a hair, and have an alt, and then copy that hair and put it only on your alt, but DO NOT sell or distribute said hair, that is not a breach of the ToS. Is this correct? I would think this would be incorrect (despite a personal preference to being able to get the things I purchased onto other accounts, but oh well.) - Crimson Delgado

Zai Lynch: Talk:CopyBot moved to Talk:Bot: content of root is copied to Bot

2009-03-26T23:16:20Z

Talk:CopyBot moved to Talk:Bot: content of root is copied to Bot

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Crimson Delgado: /* But... */

2009-01-28T23:18:58Z

But...

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	== But... ==		== But... ==

	I've heard talk that if you purchase an item, say a hair, and have an alt, and then copy that hair and put it only on your alt, but DO NOT sell or distribute said hair, that is not a breach of the ToS. Is this correct? I would think this would be incorrect (despite a personal preference to being able to get the things I purchased onto other accounts, but oh well.)		I've heard talk that if you purchase an item, say a hair, and have an alt, and then copy that hair and put it only on your alt, but DO NOT sell or distribute said hair, that is not a breach of the ToS. Is this correct? I would think this would be incorrect (despite a personal preference to being able to get the things I purchased onto other accounts, but oh well.) - Crimson Delgado

Crimson Delgado at 23:18, 28 January 2009

2009-01-28T23:18:24Z

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	I got another confirmation from GTeam. When I AR a coybotted product repeatedly (in seperated place and date but same product, and same person copied.), one of GTeam Linden IMed and advised me to file DMCA to remove all copied products in the world but AR. AR only punish the activity of copying as itself, but copied products. --[[User:Nock Forager\|Nock Forager]] 17:19, 4 August 2008 (PDT)		I got another confirmation from GTeam. When I AR a coybotted product repeatedly (in seperated place and date but same product, and same person copied.), one of GTeam Linden IMed and advised me to file DMCA to remove all copied products in the world but AR. AR only punish the activity of copying as itself, but copied products. --[[User:Nock Forager\|Nock Forager]] 17:19, 4 August 2008 (PDT)


			== But... ==

			I've heard talk that if you purchase an item, say a hair, and have an alt, and then copy that hair and put it only on your alt, but DO NOT sell or distribute said hair, that is not a breach of the ToS. Is this correct? I would think this would be incorrect (despite a personal preference to being able to get the things I purchased onto other accounts, but oh well.)

Zai Lynch: Help talk:CopyBot moved to Talk:CopyBot over redirect

2008-08-08T21:40:09Z

Help talk:CopyBot moved to Talk:CopyBot over redirect

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Nock Forager: /* copybot not banned */

2008-08-05T00:19:01Z

copybot not banned

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	The rest of the transcript is interesting for this article as well btw., since it's topic was ''Copybot and Prim Copying''. Also the following meeting (not yet published at the moment of writing) continues this topic. Have a look at [[Office Hours Blue Transcripts]] to review it when it's online. Greez, [[User:Zai_Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 03:29, 8 April 2008 (PDT)		The rest of the transcript is interesting for this article as well btw., since it's topic was ''Copybot and Prim Copying''. Also the following meeting (not yet published at the moment of writing) continues this topic. Have a look at [[Office Hours Blue Transcripts]] to review it when it's online. Greez, [[User:Zai_Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 03:29, 8 April 2008 (PDT)
	:While the transcript was gone for some time to backup all facts, it's back at [[Blue's Office Hour - March 26th, 2008]] --[[User:Zai Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 17:15, 7 July 2008 (PDT)		:While the transcript was gone for some time to backup all facts, it's back at [[Blue's Office Hour - March 26th, 2008]] --[[User:Zai Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 17:15, 7 July 2008 (PDT)

			I got another confirmation from GTeam. When I AR a coybotted product repeatedly (in seperated place and date but same product, and same person copied.), one of GTeam Linden IMed and advised me to file DMCA to remove all copied products in the world but AR. AR only punish the activity of copying as itself, but copied products. --[[User:Nock Forager\|Nock Forager]] 17:19, 4 August 2008 (PDT)

Zai Lynch: /* copybot not banned */

2008-07-08T00:15:10Z

copybot not banned

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	''well, we haven't outlawed bots, but we have outlawed use of copybot on other people's content (i believe that's the violation, i don't have it in front of me at the moment)''		''well, we haven't outlawed bots, but we have outlawed use of copybot on other people's content (i believe that's the violation, i don't have it in front of me at the moment)''
	The rest of the transcript is interesting for this article as well btw., since it's topic was ''Copybot and Prim Copying''. Also the following meeting (not yet published at the moment of writing) continues this topic. Have a look at [[Office Hours Blue Transcripts]] to review it when it's online. Greez, [[User:Zai_Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 03:29, 8 April 2008 (PDT)		The rest of the transcript is interesting for this article as well btw., since it's topic was ''Copybot and Prim Copying''. Also the following meeting (not yet published at the moment of writing) continues this topic. Have a look at [[Office Hours Blue Transcripts]] to review it when it's online. Greez, [[User:Zai_Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 03:29, 8 April 2008 (PDT)
			:While the transcript was gone for some time to backup all facts, it's back at [[Blue's Office Hour - March 26th, 2008]] --[[User:Zai Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 17:15, 7 July 2008 (PDT)

Zai Lynch: New section: copybot not banned

2008-04-08T10:29:45Z

New section: copybot not banned

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	The ability to see objects and textures in Second Life and reproduce the exact same thing is not a bug, glitch, or vulnerability of the system. The idea that everyone has the same building tools and capabilities is in fact one of primary features of SL. While the use of the software for illegal or ToS breaking purposes can be called immoral, unethical, and illegal, the program itself is in no way an exploit. No one got paid an exploit bounty for discovering it.		The ability to see objects and textures in Second Life and reproduce the exact same thing is not a bug, glitch, or vulnerability of the system. The idea that everyone has the same building tools and capabilities is in fact one of primary features of SL. While the use of the software for illegal or ToS breaking purposes can be called immoral, unethical, and illegal, the program itself is in no way an exploit. No one got paid an exploit bounty for discovering it.

			== copybot not banned ==

			Contrary to [https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Help%3ACopyBot&diff=5397&oldid=4872 this edit], the CopyBot is '''not''' banned in SL. Banned is only the improper use of a CopyBot to copy other people's creations without permission. See this quote from [[User:Blue Linden\|Blue Linden]], taken from [[Blue's Office Hour - March 28th, 2008]]:
			''well, we haven't outlawed bots, but we have outlawed use of copybot on other people's content (i believe that's the violation, i don't have it in front of me at the moment)''
			The rest of the transcript is interesting for this article as well btw., since it's topic was ''Copybot and Prim Copying''. Also the following meeting (not yet published at the moment of writing) continues this topic. Have a look at [[Office Hours Blue Transcripts]] to review it when it's online. Greez, [[User:Zai_Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 03:29, 8 April 2008 (PDT)

SignpostMarv Martin: Talk:CopyBot moved to Help talk:CopyBot: See User:SignpostMarv Martin/To-Do

2007-02-05T12:11:09Z

Talk:CopyBot moved to Help talk:CopyBot: See User:SignpostMarv Martin/To-Do

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	The rest of the transcript is interesting for this article as well btw., since it's topic was ''Copybot and Prim Copying''. Also the following meeting (not yet published at the moment of writing) continues this topic. Have a look at [[Office Hours Blue Transcripts]] to review it when it's online. Greez, [[User:Zai_Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 03:29, 8 April 2008 (PDT)		The rest of the transcript is interesting for this article as well btw., since it's topic was ''Copybot and Prim Copying''. Also the following meeting (not yet published at the moment of writing) continues this topic. Have a look at [[Office Hours Blue Transcripts]] to review it when it's online. Greez, [[User:Zai_Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zai_Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai_Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 03:29, 8 April 2008 (PDT)
	:While the transcript was gone for some time to backup all facts, it's back at [[Blue's Office Hour - March 26th, 2008]] --[[User:Zai Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 17:15, 7 July 2008 (PDT)		:While the transcript was gone for some time to backup all facts, it's back at [[Blue's Office Hour - March 26th, 2008]] --[[User:Zai Lynch\|Zai Lynch]]<sup>([[User talk:Zai Lynch\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Zai Lynch\|contribs]])</sup> 17:15, 7 July 2008 (PDT)

			I got another confirmation from GTeam. When I AR a coybotted product repeatedly (in seperated place and date but same product, and same person copied.), one of GTeam Linden IMed and advised me to file DMCA to remove all copied products in the world but AR. AR only punish the activity of copying as itself, but copied products. --[[User:Nock Forager\|Nock Forager]] 17:19, 4 August 2008 (PDT)