Talk:Direct Delivery and Automatic Notification System - Revision history

Gwyneth Llewelyn: /* How is it possible that this page is still the only reference on the subject?! */ Replying to self

2026-03-30T09:23:43Z

How is it possible that this page is still the only reference on the subject?!: Replying to self

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	== How is it possible that this page is still the ''only'' reference on the subject?! ==		== How is it possible that this page is still the ''only'' reference on the subject?! ==

	~~Ten years ago, {{mention\|Marc Adored\|p=}} and {{mention\|Haravikk Mistral\|p=}} made quite pertinent questions about this page, originally written by {{mention\|Darrius Gothly\|p=}} in 2012.~~

	A decade later, and the link on the SL Marketplace still doesn't exist. There is still no entry about ANS on the Knowledge Base. Googling/Binging on "second life automatic notification" or variations of those words will immediately point to this Wiki page instead. A page which nothing links to (at the time of writing). It's a singleton, only available for those who happen to have found the correct link<ref>I have changed that now... categorising the page for "Marketplace" and linking it from other pages I found</ref>.

	~~I've also got quite a lot of questions/issues:~~

	* It's not clear what is actually being sent/received and in which format. The table is quite informative in terms of field type and (maximum) size, but how is it actually presented? It's XML? JSON? Plain text, one field per line? Or a blob of binary data — and, if the latter, does it come with fixed-size fields or with {{mono\|\0}}-separated strings, or fields prefixed by its actual byte size? (since most entries are {{mono\|varchar}}s...)
	* Is the verification URL still {{mono\|1=https://www.xstreetsl.com/ans.php?VerifyKey=<VerifyKey>}}? Really? I would guess not, since that was used for the Magic Boxes, which currently I believe that SL Marketplace doesn't support. == How is it possible that this page is still the ''only'' reference on the subject?! ==

	Ten years ago, {{mention\|Marc Adored\|p=}} and {{mention\|Haravikk Mistral\|p=}} made quite pertinent questions about this page, originally written by {{mention\|Darrius Gothly\|p=}} in 2012.		Ten years ago, {{mention\|Marc Adored\|p=}} and {{mention\|Haravikk Mistral\|p=}} made quite pertinent questions about this page, originally written by {{mention\|Darrius Gothly\|p=}} in 2012.

Gwyneth Llewelyn: /* How is it possible that this page is still the only reference on the subject?! */ Replying to self

2026-03-30T07:51:22Z

How is it possible that this page is still the only reference on the subject?!: Replying to self

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	* It's not clear what is actually being sent/received and in which format. The table is quite informative in terms of field type and (maximum) size, but how is it actually presented? It's XML? JSON? Plain text, one field per line? Or a blob of binary data — and, if the latter, does it come with fixed-size fields or with {{mono\|\0}}-separated strings, or fields prefixed by its actual byte size? (since most entries are {{mono\|varchar}}s...)		* It's not clear what is actually being sent/received and in which format. The table is quite informative in terms of field type and (maximum) size, but how is it actually presented? It's XML? JSON? Plain text, one field per line? Or a blob of binary data — and, if the latter, does it come with fixed-size fields or with {{mono\|\0}}-separated strings, or fields prefixed by its actual byte size? (since most entries are {{mono\|varchar}}s...)
	* Is the verification URL still {{mono\|1=https://www.xstreetsl.com/ans.php?VerifyKey=<VerifyKey>}}? Really? I would guess not, since that was used for the Magic Boxes, which currently I believe that SL Marketplace doesn't support. Direct Delivery will return an empty VerifyKey anyway, thus making this part of the explanation rather irrelevant (or so I think). LL is still holding on to the {{mono\|xstreetsl.com}} domain name, but it's not pointing anywhere.		* Is the verification URL still {{mono\|1=https://www.xstreetsl.com/ans.php?VerifyKey=<VerifyKey>}}? Really? I would guess not, since that was used for the Magic Boxes, which currently I believe that SL Marketplace doesn't support. == How is it possible that this page is still the ''only'' reference on the subject?! ==

			Ten years ago, {{mention\|Marc Adored\|p=}} and {{mention\|Haravikk Mistral\|p=}} made quite pertinent questions about this page, originally written by {{mention\|Darrius Gothly\|p=}} in 2012.

			A decade later, and the link on the SL Marketplace still doesn't exist. There is still no entry about ANS on the Knowledge Base. Googling/Binging on "second life automatic notification" or variations of those words will immediately point to this Wiki page instead. A page which nothing links to (at the time of writing). It's a singleton, only available for those who happen to have found the correct link<ref>I have changed that now... categorising the page for "Marketplace" and linking it from other pages I found.</ref>.

			I've also got quite a lot of questions/issues:

			* It's not clear what is actually being sent/received and in which format. The table is quite informative in terms of field type and (maximum) size, but how is it actually presented? It's XML? JSON? Plain text, one field per line? Or a blob of binary data — and, if the latter, does it come with fixed-size fields or with {{mono\|\0}}-separated strings or fields prefixed by its actual byte size? (since most entries are {{mono\|varchar}}s...)
			* Is the verification URL still {{mono\|1=https://www.xstreetsl.com/ans.php?VerifyKey=<VerifyKey>}}? Really? I would guess not, since that was used for the Magic Boxes, which currently I believe that the SL Marketplace doesn't support. Direct Delivery will return an empty VerifyKey anyway, thus making this part of the explanation rather irrelevant (or so I think). LL is still holding on to the {{mono\|xstreetsl.com}} domain name, but it's not pointing anywhere.
	* Where do Merchants find their "Salt Code"? I've turned the SL Marketplace upside down and couldn't find it anywhere. Is that a special functionality that you need to specifically request from Linden Lab?		* Where do Merchants find their "Salt Code"? I've turned the SL Marketplace upside down and couldn't find it anywhere. Is that a special functionality that you need to specifically request from Linden Lab?
	* Like {{u\|Haravikk Mistral}}, I would also prefer a fully functioning prototype (in PHP or whatever language you wish), not just the code for dealing with the hash. That's the least of ''my'' problems!		* Like {{u\|Haravikk Mistral}}, I would also prefer a fully functioning prototype (in PHP or whatever language you wish), not just the code for dealing with the hash. That's the least of ''my'' problems!

	Note that I'm aware that ANS ''still'' works — Casper ~~use~~ it to get notifications into their system(s). Alas, especially now that they have been bought by Linden Lab, it's hardly reasonable to expect them to share their code with the rest of the world. So a bit more information would be kindly appreciated...		Note that I'm aware that ANS ''still'' works — Casper uses it to get notifications into their system(s). Alas, especially now that they have been bought by Linden Lab, it's hardly reasonable to expect them to share their code with the rest of the world. So a bit more information would be kindly appreciated...

	— [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|Gwyneth Llewelyn]] ([[User talk:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|talk]]) 12:41, 15 May 2023 (PDT)		— [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|Gwyneth Llewelyn]] ([[User talk:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|talk]]) 12:41, 15 May 2023 (PDT)

			: Three years later, I'm a much wiser person 😅
			: I admit it — it was ''not'' easy to find ''where'' the Merchant Salt Code is supposed to come from or how we are supposed to enter (and validate) the callback URL to our 'processor'. I stumbled upon it by pure chance. It's now properly documented, with snapshots on where to find it.
			:
			: — [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|Gwyneth Llewelyn]] ([[User talk:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|talk]]) 00:51, 30 March 2026 (PDT)

Gwyneth Llewelyn: /* How is it possible that this page is still the only reference on the subject?! */ new section

2023-05-15T19:41:40Z

How is it possible that this page is still the only reference on the subject?!: new section

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	What returns values from scripts does SLM support? The SLX ANS system could return 'success' or 'failure', is that still what the SLM version expects?		What returns values from scripts does SLM support? The SLX ANS system could return 'success' or 'failure', is that still what the SLM version expects?
	Also, I'm not clear on what "Orders on the SL Marketplace may contain up to 10 separate items, each detailed on a separate line" means. The article could really do with a properly coded PHP example showing off how to process an example request, ideally with script security best practices (use of mysqli_real_escape_string etc.). <br/>-- '''[[User:Haravikk_Mistral\|Haravikk]]''' <sup><small>([[User_talk:Haravikk_Mistral\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Haravikk_Mistral\|contribs]])</small></sup> 08:38, 18 March 2013 (PDT)		Also, I'm not clear on what "Orders on the SL Marketplace may contain up to 10 separate items, each detailed on a separate line" means. The article could really do with a properly coded PHP example showing off how to process an example request, ideally with script security best practices (use of mysqli_real_escape_string etc.). <br/>-- '''[[User:Haravikk_Mistral\|Haravikk]]''' <sup><small>([[User_talk:Haravikk_Mistral\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Haravikk_Mistral\|contribs]])</small></sup> 08:38, 18 March 2013 (PDT)

			== How is it possible that this page is still the ''only'' reference on the subject?! ==

			Ten years ago, {{mention\|Marc Adored\|p=}} and {{mention\|Haravikk Mistral\|p=}} made quite pertinent questions about this page, originally written by {{mention\|Darrius Gothly\|p=}} in 2012.

			A decade later, and the link on the SL Marketplace still doesn't exist. There is still no entry about ANS on the Knowledge Base. Googling/Binging on "second life automatic notification" or variations of those words will immediately point to this Wiki page instead. A page which nothing links to (at the time of writing). It's a singleton, only available for those who happen to have found the correct link<ref>I have changed that now... categorising the page for "Marketplace" and linking it from other pages I found</ref>.

			I've also got quite a lot of questions/issues:

			* It's not clear what is actually being sent/received and in which format. The table is quite informative in terms of field type and (maximum) size, but how is it actually presented? It's XML? JSON? Plain text, one field per line? Or a blob of binary data — and, if the latter, does it come with fixed-size fields or with {{mono\|\0}}-separated strings, or fields prefixed by its actual byte size? (since most entries are {{mono\|varchar}}s...)
			* Is the verification URL still {{mono\|1=https://www.xstreetsl.com/ans.php?VerifyKey=<VerifyKey>}}? Really? I would guess not, since that was used for the Magic Boxes, which currently I believe that SL Marketplace doesn't support. Direct Delivery will return an empty VerifyKey anyway, thus making this part of the explanation rather irrelevant (or so I think). LL is still holding on to the {{mono\|xstreetsl.com}} domain name, but it's not pointing anywhere.
			* Where do Merchants find their "Salt Code"? I've turned the SL Marketplace upside down and couldn't find it anywhere. Is that a special functionality that you need to specifically request from Linden Lab?
			* Like {{u\|Haravikk Mistral}}, I would also prefer a fully functioning prototype (in PHP or whatever language you wish), not just the code for dealing with the hash. That's the least of ''my'' problems!

			Note that I'm aware that ANS ''still'' works — Casper use it to get notifications into their system(s). Alas, especially now that they have been bought by Linden Lab, it's hardly reasonable to expect them to share their code with the rest of the world. So a bit more information would be kindly appreciated...

			— [[User:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|Gwyneth Llewelyn]] ([[User talk:Gwyneth Llewelyn\|talk]]) 12:41, 15 May 2023 (PDT)

Gwyneth Llewelyn: Replaced

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2023-05-15T17:49:52Z

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	Regarding the .NET example for the ANS verification, the use of FormsAuthentication.HashPasswordForStoringInConfigFile() is somewhat unorthodox but it's a single call and it works. For an alternative I offer the following:		Regarding the .NET example for the ANS verification, the use of {{Mono\|FormsAuthentication.HashPasswordForStoringInConfigFile()}} is somewhat unorthodox but it's a single call and it works. For an alternative I offer the following:
	{{Indent60px\|<~~pre><nowiki~~>		{{Indent60px\|<syntaxhighlight lang="csharp">
	string calcHash;		string calcHash;
	System.Security.Cryptography.SHA1Managed hashAlgorithm = new System.Security.Cryptography.SHA1Managed();		System.Security.Cryptography.SHA1Managed hashAlgorithm = new System.Security.Cryptography.SHA1Managed();
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	bytes = hashAlgorithm.ComputeHash(bytes);		bytes = hashAlgorithm.ComputeHash(bytes);
	calcHash = BitConverter.ToString(bytes).Replace("-","").ToLowerInvariant();		calcHash = BitConverter.ToString(bytes).Replace("-","").ToLowerInvariant();
	</~~nowiki></pre~~>}}		</syntaxhighlight>}}
	[[User:Antonius Frentis\|Antonius Frentis]] 18:10, 23 September 2012 (PDT)		[[User:Antonius Frentis\|Antonius Frentis]] 18:10, 23 September 2012 (PDT)

Haravikk Mistral: /* Return values? */ new section

2013-03-18T15:38:19Z

Return values?: new section

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	Also I suggest that this page be linked to from the ANS page on the marketplace instead of it just saying "For more information on ANS, please see the Knowledge Base.". Mainly because the knowledge base doesn't contain any ANS information but the wiki does ;-) [[User:Marc Adored\|Marc Adored]] 08:32, 19 January 2013 (PST)		Also I suggest that this page be linked to from the ANS page on the marketplace instead of it just saying "For more information on ANS, please see the Knowledge Base.". Mainly because the knowledge base doesn't contain any ANS information but the wiki does ;-) [[User:Marc Adored\|Marc Adored]] 08:32, 19 January 2013 (PST)

			== Return values? ==

			What returns values from scripts does SLM support? The SLX ANS system could return 'success' or 'failure', is that still what the SLM version expects?
			Also, I'm not clear on what "Orders on the SL Marketplace may contain up to 10 separate items, each detailed on a separate line" means. The article could really do with a properly coded PHP example showing off how to process an example request, ideally with script security best practices (use of mysqli_real_escape_string etc.). <br/>-- '''[[User:Haravikk_Mistral\|Haravikk]]''' <sup><small>([[User_talk:Haravikk_Mistral\|talk]]\|[[Special:Contributions/Haravikk_Mistral\|contribs]])</small></sup> 08:38, 18 March 2013 (PDT)

Marc Adored: /* Updated? */

2013-01-19T16:32:45Z

Updated?

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	I see XStreet plastered all over this so I was wondering if this wiki is updated to all (if any) of the latest ANS features and specifications?		I see XStreet plastered all over this so I was wondering if this wiki is updated to all (if any) of the latest ANS features and specifications?

	Also I suggest that this page be linked to from the ANS page on the marketplace instead of it just saying "For more information on ANS, please see the Knowledge Base.". Mainly because the knowledge base doesn't contain any ANS information but the wiki does ;-)		Also I suggest that this page be linked to from the ANS page on the marketplace instead of it just saying "For more information on ANS, please see the Knowledge Base.". Mainly because the knowledge base doesn't contain any ANS information but the wiki does ;-) [[User:Marc Adored\|Marc Adored]] 08:32, 19 January 2013 (PST)

Marc Adored: /* Updated? */ new section

2013-01-19T16:31:47Z

Updated?: new section

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	[[User:Antonius Frentis\|Antonius Frentis]] 18:10, 23 September 2012 (PDT)		[[User:Antonius Frentis\|Antonius Frentis]] 18:10, 23 September 2012 (PDT)

			== Updated? ==

			I see XStreet plastered all over this so I was wondering if this wiki is updated to all (if any) of the latest ANS features and specifications?

			Also I suggest that this page be linked to from the ANS page on the marketplace instead of it just saying "For more information on ANS, please see the Knowledge Base.". Mainly because the knowledge base doesn't contain any ANS information but the wiki does ;-)

Antonius Frentis: Alternative .NET validation

2012-09-24T01:10:15Z

Alternative .NET validation

New page

Regarding the .NET example for the ANS verification, the use of FormsAuthentication.HashPasswordForStoringInConfigFile() is somewhat unorthodox but it's a single call and it works. For an alternative I offer the following:
{{Indent60px|<pre><nowiki>
string calcHash;
System.Security.Cryptography.SHA1Managed hashAlgorithm = new System.Security.Cryptography.SHA1Managed();
System.Text.ASCIIEncoding encoder = new System.Text.ASCIIEncoding();
byte[] bytes = encoder.GetBytes(Request.Url.Query.Remove(0,1) + saltCode);
bytes = hashAlgorithm.ComputeHash(bytes);
calcHash = BitConverter.ToString(bytes).Replace("-","").ToLowerInvariant();
</nowiki></pre>}}
[[User:Antonius Frentis|Antonius Frentis]] 18:10, 23 September 2012 (PDT)