https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ALSL_Protocol%2FRestrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group%2Fkey 2026-04-07T06:57:44Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.42.1 https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1147051&oldid=prev 2011-06-19T15:24:46Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">!x-noping</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:24, 19 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l77">Line 77:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 77:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Storing the UUID key of the owner of the controller (not of the avatar who used the controller) is already done in my relay : capture yourself with my relay and click &quot;grabbers&quot;; you will see Grabbed by xxx (owned by yyy); I did that very early in my relay because I had in mind when you want to tell someone about a problem with this controller (technical problem, grieffer, etc...).--[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:18, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Storing the UUID key of the owner of the controller (not of the avatar who used the controller) is already done in my relay : capture yourself with my relay and click &quot;grabbers&quot;; you will see Grabbed by xxx (owned by yyy); I did that very early in my relay because I had in mind when you want to tell someone about a problem with this controller (technical problem, grieffer, etc...).--[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:18, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:: The intent of !x-noping/forceping was similar to Dahlia's !x-cancel proposal.  The differences are that my proposal only applies to sessions which have ping disabled (so no need to store the owner of the controller for normal sessions) - though it does no harm if an implementation chooses to apply it to all sessions.  But instead of unconditionally releasing all sessions, it pings them and only releases those sessions for which the controller doesn't respond.  The benefit is that if I need to release someone from a malfunctioning device, I can capture them with another device first - possibly even a noping device, as long as I make sure it's in range.  Then I derez the malfunctioning device and issue a !x-noping - the stuck session will be gone, but the new session will remain.  It provides more flexibility for recoving from a malfunctioning device then simply releasing the victim.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:: That said, I do like the simplicity of Dahlia's !x-cancel proposal. [[User:Melancholy Lemon|Melancholy Lemon]] 08:24, 19 June 2011 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, which is very simple; it is recommended to implement it in all relays supporting the x-tension &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Note that !x-noping has the same meaning as !x-delay/2^31-1/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed by its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, which is very simple; it is recommended to implement it in all relays supporting the x-tension &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Note that !x-noping has the same meaning as !x-delay/2^31-1/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed by its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Melancholy Lemon https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146986&oldid=prev 2011-06-18T13:37:14Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:37, 18 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l80">Line 80:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 80:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement it in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has the same meaning as !x-delay/2^31/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed by its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement it in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has the same meaning as !x-delay/2^31<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-1</ins>/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed by its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dahlia Orfan https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146984&oldid=prev 2011-06-18T13:24:58Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:24, 18 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l80">Line 80:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 80:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement it in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has same <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the </del>meaning as !x-delay/2^31/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement it in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the </ins>same meaning as !x-delay/2^31/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">by </ins>its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dahlia Orfan https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146983&oldid=prev 2011-06-18T13:24:00Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:24, 18 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l80">Line 80:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 80:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement it in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has same meaning as !x-delay/2^31/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement it in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has same <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the </ins>meaning as !x-delay/2^31/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dahlia Orfan https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146982&oldid=prev 2011-06-18T13:23:30Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:23, 18 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l80">Line 80:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 80:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has same meaning as !x-delay/2^31/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">it </ins>in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has same meaning as !x-delay/2^31/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dahlia Orfan https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146981&oldid=prev 2011-06-18T13:23:06Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:23, 18 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l79">Line 79:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 79:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I wrote the specification for '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/cancel|cancel]]''''', which is very simple; it is recommended to implement in all relays supporting the x-tension '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/delay|delay]]''''' and '''''[[LSL Protocol/Restrained Love Open Relay Group/key|key]]'''''. Note that !x-noping has same meaning as !x-delay/2^31/noping/real, so I think that this x-tension is really necessary. As a freebie, it would be simple to give out a script that anyone could use to free all avatars grabbed its own objects. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:23, 18 June 2011 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Dahlia Orfan https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146897&oldid=prev 2011-06-17T13:45:49Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:45, 17 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l76">Line 76:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 76:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::About !x-cancel and safeword_by_owner, the problem is that you would have to remember the owner name for each session in the relay memory (it cannot retrieved from the UUID of the object that potentially does not exist anymore). --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::About !x-cancel and safeword_by_owner, the problem is that you would have to remember the owner name for each session in the relay memory (it cannot retrieved from the UUID of the object that potentially does not exist anymore). --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Storing the UUID key of the owner of the controller (not of the avatar who used the controller) is already done in my relay : capture yourself with my relay and click &quot;grabbers&quot;; you will see Grabbed by xxx (owned by yyy); I did that very early in my relay because I had in mind when you want to tell someone about a problem with this controller (technical problem, grieffer, etc...).--[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:18, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Storing the UUID key of the owner of the controller (not of the avatar who used the controller) is already done in my relay : capture yourself with my relay and click &quot;grabbers&quot;; you will see Grabbed by xxx (owned by yyy); I did that very early in my relay because I had in mind when you want to tell someone about a problem with this controller (technical problem, grieffer, etc...).--[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:18, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::Actually, the UUID key of the owner of the controller is also already in your relay Satomi... So I do not understand the problem at all. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:42, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dahlia Orfan https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146896&oldid=prev 2011-06-17T13:42:10Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:42, 17 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l76">Line 76:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 76:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::About !x-cancel and safeword_by_owner, the problem is that you would have to remember the owner name for each session in the relay memory (it cannot retrieved from the UUID of the object that potentially does not exist anymore). --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::About !x-cancel and safeword_by_owner, the problem is that you would have to remember the owner name for each session in the relay memory (it cannot retrieved from the UUID of the object that potentially does not exist anymore). --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Storing the UUID key of the owner of the controller (not of the avatar who used the controller) is already done in my relay : capture yourself with my relay and click &quot;grabbers&quot;; you will see Grabbed by xxx (owned by yyy); I did that very early in my relay because I had in mind when you want to tell someone about a problem with this controller (technical problem, grieffer, etc...).--[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:18, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Storing the UUID key of the owner of the controller (not of the avatar who used the controller) is already done in my relay : capture yourself with my relay and click &quot;grabbers&quot;; you will see Grabbed by xxx (owned by yyy); I did that very early in my relay because I had in mind when you want to tell someone about a problem with this controller (technical problem, grieffer, etc...).--[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:18, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::Actually, the UUID key of the owner of the controller is also already in your relay Satomi... So I do not understand the problem at all. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:42, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dahlia Orfan https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146895&oldid=prev 2011-06-17T13:18:14Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:18, 17 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l75">Line 75:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 75:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: Or what about a command !x-cancel, to be added to the x-tension key; if C sends to R !x-cancel, all sessions of R those controller and C has the same owner are cancelled. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 05:31, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: Or what about a command !x-cancel, to be added to the x-tension key; if C sends to R !x-cancel, all sessions of R those controller and C has the same owner are cancelled. --[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 05:31, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::About !x-cancel and safeword_by_owner, the problem is that you would have to remember the owner name for each session in the relay memory (it cannot retrieved from the UUID of the object that potentially does not exist anymore). --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::About !x-cancel and safeword_by_owner, the problem is that you would have to remember the owner name for each session in the relay memory (it cannot retrieved from the UUID of the object that potentially does not exist anymore). --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::Storing the UUID key of the owner of the controller (not of the avatar who used the controller) is already done in my relay : capture yourself with my relay and click "grabbers"; you will see Grabbed by xxx (owned by yyy); I did that very early in my relay because I had in mind when you want to tell someone about a problem with this controller (technical problem, grieffer, etc...).--[[User:Dahlia Orfan|Dahlia Orfan]] 06:18, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dahlia Orfan https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Love_Open_Relay_Group/key&diff=1146893&oldid=prev 2011-06-17T13:07:02Z

<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">!x-noping</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:07, 17 June 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l76">Line 76:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 76:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::About !x-cancel and safeword_by_owner, the problem is that you would have to remember the owner name for each session in the relay memory (it cannot retrieved from the UUID of the object that potentially does not exist anymore). --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::About !x-cancel and safeword_by_owner, the problem is that you would have to remember the owner name for each session in the relay memory (it cannot retrieved from the UUID of the object that potentially does not exist anymore). --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Coming back to !x-delay: Dahlia pointed to me in IM that delays could be huge so that there is not much difference with !x-noping for all practical aspect. However, the syntax of !x-delay encourages the device scripter to think about a reasonable delay, which !x-noping does not. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 05:38, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I wrote a new draft without !x-noping, with advice how to use !x-delay instead. Now I can see there was an advantage for !x-noping: its implementation was way easier than !x-delay. We can revert my recent editions if this is a big issue. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 06:07, 17 June 2011 (PDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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