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Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2009-03-17T21:03:53Z

Translation Devices

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	~~With~~ people from all over the world coming into Second Life, it's often handy to have a translation device to help with basic communications. I can't list all of them here, I am not advocating any particular one, and I cannot speak to the quality of the translations. I can only say that all of these have been used by me, and have worked adequately.		While a mentor who speaks a language fluently is always the first choice, with people from all over the world coming into Second Life, it's often handy to have a translation device to help with basic communications. I can't list all of them here, I am not advocating any particular one, and I cannot speak to the quality of the translations. I can only say that all of these have been used by me, and have worked adequately.

	The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008~~. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information~~. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.		The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.

	<strong>Additional Resources:</strong>		<strong>Additional Resources:</strong>
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	:Translations of Second Life Notecards: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]		:Translations of Second Life Notecards: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]

	<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.		<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand or English contractions (eg, "don't"). Punctuation matters, as well.


	:<strong>Turkish Language Note:</strong>		:<strong>Turkish Language Note:</strong>
	::I have ~~not yet~~ found ~~a translation device in Second Life~~ that ~~will translate~~ Turkish, and ~~most online tools~~ are ~~terrible~~. Turkish ~~pronouns seem to defy most translators. So~~, in the ~~event that you cannot contact a Turkish~~-~~speaking mentor, here are a couple resources~~. ~~Please note, I normally do not encourage people to leave HI until~~ they're ~~ready, but have worked with several Turkish people, and HI is just not useful for them. Better to send them on to the Turkish Orientation. It's a tad dull~~, but ~~it's thorough and much more useful than a non-Turkish experience~~.		::thanks to Uniq Xeno, I have found two translators that work for Turkish: Qtranslator and AF Translator Pro (I'll be adding them to the list below, and the are sold at the Turkish slurl listed below). Since Uniq speaks Turkish and owns Turkiye Island and Orient Island, I'm guessing that means the translators work fairly well :-). The links below have Orientation areas and wonderfully friendly helpers (they're like LL mentors, but hired by Uniq).

	::<strong>Browser-based translation tool</strong> (the only one I've found that is even close to usable):		::<strong>Browser-based translation tool</strong> (the only one I've found that is even close to usable):
	::http://translation.babylon.com/English/to-Turkish		::http://translation.babylon.com/English/to-Turkish

	::;Turkish Orientation area, {{SLurl		::;Turkish Orientation area (HI translated with pictures), {{SLurl
	\|region=ISTANBUL REALL TEAM		\|region=ISTANBUL REALL TEAM
	\|x=99		\|x=99
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	\|title=Reall Team - Turkey Yardim Adasi		\|title=Reall Team - Turkey Yardim Adasi
	\|}}		\|}}
	::;Turkish Sim (great area to meet people), {{SLurl
			::;Turkish Sim - Welcome area (great area to meet people), {{SLurl
	\|region=Turkiye		\|region=Turkiye
	\|x=136		\|x=136
	\|y=117		\|y=117
	\|z=23		\|z=23
	\|title=.C~~Turkiye C~~. www.InSlTurkiye.com		\|title=.CTurkiyeC. www.InSlTurkiye.com
			\|}}

			::;Turkish Sim - new user area (translators, cheap clothing/skins, camping), {{SLurl
			\|region=Orient Island
			\|x=127
			\|y=127
			\|z=23
			\|title=Orient Island - cheap clothing/skins, camping
	\|}}		\|}}

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T21:05:38Z

Translation Devices

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	<strong>Additional Resources:</strong>		<strong>Additional Resources:</strong>
	Languages Spoken by Volunteers: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Languages_spoken_by_Volunteers		:Languages Spoken by Volunteers: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Languages_spoken_by_Volunteers
	Translations of Second Life Notecards: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]		:Translations of Second Life Notecards: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]

	<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.		<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T21:04:28Z

Translation Devices

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	With people from all over the world coming into Second Life, it's often handy to have a translation device to help with basic communications. I can't list all of them here, I am not advocating any particular one, and I cannot speak to the quality of the translations. I can only say that all of these have been used by me, and have worked adequately.		With people from all over the world coming into Second Life, it's often handy to have a translation device to help with basic communications. I can't list all of them here, I am not advocating any particular one, and I cannot speak to the quality of the translations. I can only say that all of these have been used by me, and have worked adequately.

	~~There is a wiki section devoted to translating Second Life Notecards into~~ as ~~many languages as possible~~, ~~which you can find here: [https://wiki~~.~~secondlife~~.~~com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From~~ In~~-World Notecards]~~		The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.

	~~The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as~~ of ~~October 25, 2008~~. ~~The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information~~. In ~~the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.~~		<strong>Additional Resources:</strong>
			Languages Spoken by Volunteers: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Languages_spoken_by_Volunteers
			Translations of Second Life Notecards: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]

	<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.		<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T20:01:56Z

Translation Devices

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	<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.		<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.


	:<strong>Turkish Language Note:</strong>		:<strong>Turkish Language Note:</strong>

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T20:00:24Z

Translation Devices

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	<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.		<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.

	:<strong>Turkish Language ~~Special~~ Note:</strong>		:<strong>Turkish Language Note:</strong>
	::I have not yet found a translation device in Second Life that will translate Turkish, and most online tools are terrible. Turkish pronouns seem to defy most translators. So, in the event that you cannot contact a Turkish-speaking mentor, here are a couple resources. Please note, I normally do not encourage people to leave HI until they're ready, but have worked with several Turkish people, and HI is just not useful for them. Better to send them on to the Turkish Orientation. It's a tad dull, but it's thorough and much more useful than a non-Turkish experience.		::I have not yet found a translation device in Second Life that will translate Turkish, and most online tools are terrible. Turkish pronouns seem to defy most translators. So, in the event that you cannot contact a Turkish-speaking mentor, here are a couple resources. Please note, I normally do not encourage people to leave HI until they're ready, but have worked with several Turkish people, and HI is just not useful for them. Better to send them on to the Turkish Orientation. It's a tad dull, but it's thorough and much more useful than a non-Turkish experience.

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T19:59:36Z

Translation Devices

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	== Translation Devices ==		== Translation Devices ==
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	With people from all over the world coming into Second Life, it's often handy to have a translation device to help with basic communications. I can't list all of them here, I am not advocating any particular one, and I cannot speak to the quality of the translations. I can say that all of these have been used by me, and have worked adequately.		With people from all over the world coming into Second Life, it's often handy to have a translation device to help with basic communications. I can't list all of them here, I am not advocating any particular one, and I cannot speak to the quality of the translations. I can only say that all of these have been used by me, and have worked adequately.

	There is a wiki section devoted to translating Second Life Notecards into as many languages as possible, which you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]		There is a wiki section devoted to translating Second Life Notecards into as many languages as possible, which you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]

	~~Here is a list of the translation tools I know about and where to find them.~~ The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.		The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.

	<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.		<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T19:38:53Z

Translation Devices

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	::<strong>Notes:</strong> No HUD. Can be worn, or placed on the ground. Automatically translates what is said in public chat and sends translations via IM (reduces chat spam). Multiple translators in same area speeds up multiple translations. Uses Google API (Babel Fish).		::<strong>Notes:</strong> No HUD. Can be worn, or placed on the ground. Automatically translates what is said in public chat and sends translations via IM (reduces chat spam). Multiple translators in same area speeds up multiple translations. Uses Google API (Babel Fish).

	::While the translation is not perfect in the languages I do know a bit of, I have to say that the functionality is excellent - it translates everyone to everyone, not just you and a targeted avatar. I have been able to help a group of people in three or more languages, all at once. Almost like holding a class.		::While the translation is not perfect in the languages I do know a bit of (doesn't seem to notice accent marks, which can change a word's meaning), I have to say that the functionality is excellent - it translates everyone to everyone, not just you and a targeted avatar. I have been able to help a group of people in three or more languages, all at once. Almost like holding a class.

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T19:36:36Z

Translation Devices

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	Here is a list of the translation tools I know about and where to find them. The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.		Here is a list of the translation tools I know about and where to find them. The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.

	<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will ~~typical~~ chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.		<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.

	:<strong>Turkish Language Special Note:</strong>		:<strong>Turkish Language Special Note:</strong>

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T19:36:12Z

Translation Devices

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	There is a wiki section devoted to translating Second Life Notecards into as many languages as possible, which you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]		There is a wiki section devoted to translating Second Life Notecards into as many languages as possible, which you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]

	Here is a list of the translation tools I know about and where to find them. The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all ~~four~~ tools''.		Here is a list of the translation tools I know about and where to find them. The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all the tools''.

			<strong>Usage Note</strong>: How well a translator works is greatly affected by how clearly you type in your native language. Slang (even "ok") generally won't translate, nor will typical chat shorthand. Punctuation matters, as well.

	:<strong>Turkish Language Special Note:</strong>		:<strong>Turkish Language Special Note:</strong>

Pyrophoria Nimbus: /* Translation Devices */

2008-11-16T06:18:32Z

Translation Devices

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	There is a wiki section devoted to translating Second Life Notecards into as many languages as possible, which you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]		There is a wiki section devoted to translating Second Life Notecards into as many languages as possible, which you can find here: [https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Text_from_In-world_Notecards Text From In-World Notecards]

	Here is a list of the translation tools I know about and where to find them. The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, italics denotes a language that is not in all four tools.		Here is a list of the translation tools I know about and where to find them. The costs are only here for comparison, and are valid as of October 25, 2008. The cost may change at the whim of the creators, and I don't have time to update that information. In the language list for each tool, ''italics denotes a language that is not in all four tools''.

	:<strong>Turkish Language ~~Translation~~ Special Note:</strong>		:<strong>Turkish Language Special Note:</strong>
	::I have not yet found a translation device in Second Life that will translate Turkish, and most online tools are terrible. Turkish pronouns seem to defy most translators. So, in the event that you cannot contact a Turkish-speaking mentor, here are a couple resources. Please note, I normally do not encourage people to leave HI until they're ready, but have worked with several Turkish people, and HI is just not useful for them. Better to send them on to the Turkish Orientation. It's a tad dull, but it's thorough and much more useful than a non-Turkish experience.		::I have not yet found a translation device in Second Life that will translate Turkish, and most online tools are terrible. Turkish pronouns seem to defy most translators. So, in the event that you cannot contact a Turkish-speaking mentor, here are a couple resources. Please note, I normally do not encourage people to leave HI until they're ready, but have worked with several Turkish people, and HI is just not useful for them. Better to send them on to the Turkish Orientation. It's a tad dull, but it's thorough and much more useful than a non-Turkish experience.

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	::<strong>Notes:</strong> No HUD. Can be worn, or placed on the ground. Automatically translates what is said in public chat and sends translations via IM (reduces chat spam). Multiple translators in same area speeds up multiple translations. Uses Google API (Babel Fish).		::<strong>Notes:</strong> No HUD. Can be worn, or placed on the ground. Automatically translates what is said in public chat and sends translations via IM (reduces chat spam). Multiple translators in same area speeds up multiple translations. Uses Google API (Babel Fish).

	While the translation is not perfect in the languages I do know a bit of, I have to say that the functionality is excellent - it translates everyone to everyone, not just you and a targeted avatar. I have been able to help a group of people in three or more languages, all at once. Almost like holding a class.		::While the translation is not perfect in the languages I do know a bit of, I have to say that the functionality is excellent - it translates everyone to everyone, not just you and a targeted avatar. I have been able to help a group of people in three or more languages, all at once. Almost like holding a class.