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		<title>Brad Linden: reply to questions</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-18T01:22:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;reply to questions&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 18:22, 17 February 2022&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;(*) If we except the fact that I do not own a smartphone and will not be able to even test my code !... Could we please get (at least on Aditi, for example) simple (plain text) email-based MFA so that viewer developers (I know that at least NiranV is in the same case as myself) can test the feature with their implementation without the need for a smartphone or any other third party device/application ?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;(*) If we except the fact that I do not own a smartphone and will not be able to even test my code !... Could we please get (at least on Aditi, for example) simple (plain text) email-based MFA so that viewer developers (I know that at least NiranV is in the same case as myself) can test the feature with their implementation without the need for a smartphone or any other third party device/application ?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Greetings Henri, thanks for your time and questions.  Sorry I didn&#039;t get back to you sooner.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:# I don&#039;t want to add these details to the API spec.  These should be treated as implementation details, but for the purposes of sanity checking, you can inspect the mfa_hash value. The current implementation of the mfa_hash is the concatenation of an ISO-8601 timestamp (for expiration of this hash value) and a hex encoded HMAC-SHA-512 value as output by an [https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6238 RFC6238] implementation of TOTP, with a comma separating them.  I think the timestamp can be up to 27 or so characters, and the hex HMAC-SHA-512 will be 64 characters so that adds up to 92 characters of text.  Naturally this is subject to change if we add more authentication options beyond RFC6238 TOTP protocol.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:# I believe our QA engineers have had some success using the [https://pyauth.github.io/pyotp/ PyOTP] library for implementing an authenticator for testing without a closed smartphone application.  I don&#039;t know the details myself, but I would recommend investigating that if it suits your needs.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Hope this helps, [[User:Brad Linden|Brad Linden]] ([[User talk:Brad Linden|talk]]) 17:22, 17 February 2022 (PST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Brad Linden</name></author>
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		<title>Henri Beauchamp: Created page with &quot;Greetings Brad. I am backporting the MFA support to my viewer (the Cool VL Viewer) which, being a v1 viewer, does things differently to LL&#039;s viewer and TPVs based on it.  Noth...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-09T11:44:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Greetings Brad. I am backporting the MFA support to my viewer (the Cool VL Viewer) which, being a v1 viewer, does things differently to LL&amp;#039;s viewer and TPVs based on it.  Noth...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Greetings Brad. I am backporting the MFA support to my viewer (the Cool VL Viewer) which, being a v1 viewer, does things differently to LL&amp;#039;s viewer and TPVs based on it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing difficult (*), but I&amp;#039;d like to make sanity checks in my code for the MFA hash I will store (in an LLXORCipher&amp;#039;ed and LLBase64-encoded form) in the user per-account settings (no LLSecAPIHandler in my viewer, and not planing/wanting to backport it). The sanity check is especially useful when retrieving the stored ciphered/encoded hash and decoding/deciphering it.&lt;br /&gt;
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I therefore need to know whether the MFA hash got a fixed size or not, and if yes, what size it is; is it a MD5 or SHA1 hash, for example ?&lt;br /&gt;
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So, if you could add details to the API specs about it, it would be great. :-)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you in advance !&lt;br /&gt;
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(*) If we except the fact that I do not own a smartphone and will not be able to even test my code !... Could we please get (at least on Aditi, for example) simple (plain text) email-based MFA so that viewer developers (I know that at least NiranV is in the same case as myself) can test the feature with their implementation without the need for a smartphone or any other third party device/application ?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Henri Beauchamp</name></author>
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