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:Gee, if we have to use the grid, I'm gonna flunk. ;)  There's more than one way to do some of these things.
:Gee, if we have to use the grid, I'm gonna flunk. ;)  There's more than one way to do some of these things.
:--[[User:Kim Anubis|Kim Anubis]] 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
:--[[User:Kim Anubis|Kim Anubis]] 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
:: Knowing that the options exist and how to use them is what I'm thinking of.  Most of the list I was along the lines of "does X know enough about the topic that they can find/ask/experiment to get whatever they need?"  Whether or not one chooses to use them is a personal choice. :) --[[User:Storm Thunders|Storm Thunders]] 06:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)


*Making "mini" prims with different techniques - cutting, dimpling, hollowing with a transparent texture on the outside.
*Making "mini" prims with different techniques - cutting, dimpling, hollowing with a transparent texture on the outside.
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: I never bothered with megaprims because early on Linden Lab said they wouldn't be supported.  Just went digging through the SL Wiki and the Knowledge Base, and did not find anything saying they're being supported now, but maybe you can turn up something?
: I never bothered with megaprims because early on Linden Lab said they wouldn't be supported.  Just went digging through the SL Wiki and the Knowledge Base, and did not find anything saying they're being supported now, but maybe you can turn up something?
:--[[User:Kim Anubis|Kim Anubis]] 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
:--[[User:Kim Anubis|Kim Anubis]] 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
:: There's a fair bit about both the Havok hack prims and methods to make a standard prim appear larger than 10M in SL's forums (specifically Content Creation | Building). --[[User:Storm Thunders|Storm Thunders]] 06:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)


*Prim torture shapes.
*Prim torture shapes.
:This might be in an "advanced" section of the test?
:This might be in an "advanced" section of the test?
:--[[User:Kim Anubis|Kim Anubis]] 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
:--[[User:Kim Anubis|Kim Anubis]] 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
:: More along the lines of knowing that some prim properties are hidden and exposed depending on the current shape-type of the prim, and that you can manipulate those properties in one shape, then transform the prim to another. --[[User:Storm Thunders|Storm Thunders]] 06:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)


*Techniques to minimize your prim count.  
*Techniques to minimize your prim count.  
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: I often hire different people to do models and textures -- texturing is really a different specialized area and I'd like to see a separate certification for it.  If I need someone to create a texture that will tile, I don't ask a modeler.
: I often hire different people to do models and textures -- texturing is really a different specialized area and I'd like to see a separate certification for it.  If I need someone to create a texture that will tile, I don't ask a modeler.
:--[[User:Kim Anubis|Kim Anubis]] 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
:--[[User:Kim Anubis|Kim Anubis]] 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
:: There's combo techniques that can make for a better builder.  As an example, flexi and alpha textures - flexi prims "flex" differently depending on their z size, but with a couple alpha textures you can create complex objects like those popular fox tails. --[[User:Storm Thunders|Storm Thunders]] 06:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)


*Balancing and minimizing lag.  Textures, shapes, levels of detail, etc...
*Balancing and minimizing lag.  Textures, shapes, levels of detail, etc...

Revision as of 05:50, 30 April 2007

Areas like vehicles, buildings, and avatar attachments should remain a marketing and portfolio issue. There's huge stylistic issues with judging those - camera control, proportions, historical accuracy and realism, etc. --Storm Thunders 08:29, 26 April 2007 (PDT)

I agree that it would be better to focus on testing certain abilities, rather than types of objects.
--Kim Anubis 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)

I'd be in favor of certification by submitting a portfolio, but not by submitting to an examination. --Osprey Therian 22:35, 29 April 2007 (PDT)

Topics:

  • Proof that a person can use the edit controls in basic ways. Create, select, move, rotate, copy, delete. Hollow, cut, resize, dimple. Convert one prim type into another. Resize using the edit window, resize by grabbing the points. Choosing colors and textures, aligning textures, transparent/opaque, fullbright. Understanding shiny, bumpmapped, and how alpha affects them. Grid modes.
  • Linking and unlinking. Manipulating linked groups of prims (individually and as a group) - moving, texturing, coloring, resizing. Deleting a prim in a linkset. Knows that a stable linkset can't be a mix of phantom and real, etc. Understanding root vs child prims, and how that affects position, rotation, etc. Number and distance issues with linking. The existance of script tools that let you work around those limitations. The vehicle prim limit.
I'd suggest changing that last one to "prim limit for physics-enabled objects."
--Kim Anubis 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Knowledge of flexi limitations (only some shapes can be flexi, always phantom)
  • Knowledge of lighting limitations( 6 sources, no shadows ).
  • Alpha flicker and techniques to prevent it. Positioning, "blacksiding", etc.
  • How to make a prim into an attachment. Setting it to an attachment point. Using the edit window's grid mode for attachments. Making a basic one-prim HUD.
Gee, if we have to use the grid, I'm gonna flunk. ;) There's more than one way to do some of these things.
--Kim Anubis 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
Knowing that the options exist and how to use them is what I'm thinking of. Most of the list I was along the lines of "does X know enough about the topic that they can find/ask/experiment to get whatever they need?" Whether or not one chooses to use them is a personal choice. :) --Storm Thunders 06:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Making "mini" prims with different techniques - cutting, dimpling, hollowing with a transparent texture on the outside.
  • Oversized prims. How to do the ones that are technique (like flattening a 10M box to create a 15M plane) and best practices with the huge or mega prims that were introduced thru the Havoc hack (phantom is best, don't make them physical, bounding box and hollowing issues, beware of parcel boundaries).
I never bothered with megaprims because early on Linden Lab said they wouldn't be supported. Just went digging through the SL Wiki and the Knowledge Base, and did not find anything saying they're being supported now, but maybe you can turn up something?
--Kim Anubis 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
There's a fair bit about both the Havok hack prims and methods to make a standard prim appear larger than 10M in SL's forums (specifically Content Creation | Building). --Storm Thunders 06:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Prim torture shapes.
This might be in an "advanced" section of the test?
--Kim Anubis 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
More along the lines of knowing that some prim properties are hidden and exposed depending on the current shape-type of the prim, and that you can manipulate those properties in one shape, then transform the prim to another. --Storm Thunders 06:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Techniques to minimize your prim count.
  • Texturing techniques that influence building. Shadowing, lighting, details, alpha games... texture maps. Textures and lag. Size, tiling, alpha channel issues, formats for upload. Common uses of alpha textures.
I often hire different people to do models and textures -- texturing is really a different specialized area and I'd like to see a separate certification for it. If I need someone to create a texture that will tile, I don't ask a modeler.
--Kim Anubis 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
There's combo techniques that can make for a better builder. As an example, flexi and alpha textures - flexi prims "flex" differently depending on their z size, but with a couple alpha textures you can create complex objects like those popular fox tails. --Storm Thunders 06:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Balancing and minimizing lag. Textures, shapes, levels of detail, etc...
  • Working with curves and organic shapes.
This area is about to change drastically, with the advent of the new Sculpted Prim. Eventually I suppose the certification will probably cover importing functional Sculpted Prim textures and applying them.
--Kim Anubis 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Basic script usage, more of a "drop it in and let it run" sort of thing. Animating textures, basic sound use, setting sit targets and assembling pose balls, removing hoverscript and particles, basic doors...
I don't know how much of this should really be included. Although some of them can do it, I don't require all of the modelers working for me to know how to do these things. I'm more likely to either hand them an already scripted door blank, or have the modeler pass the chair model to a programmer who'll add the sit target and sound player (whoopee cushion!).
--Kim Anubis 09:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Permissions. Implications of different combinations. Behavior of mixed permission objects & contents. Groups.
--Anna Gulaev 20:37, 28 April 2007 (EDT)