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| * [12:08] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: VWR-7509[c
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| * [12:08] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7509
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| * [12:09] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: wow
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| * [12:09] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: lotta noise in this one
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| * [12:09] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: This was fixed according to Prospero's comment might just need to ping Randy who re-opened it
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| * [12:09] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: nods
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| * [12:09] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8537 was marked as duplicate, but reopened. Should it be re-resolved?
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| * [12:10] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: let's ask randy to provide us with his objects so we can have someone in QA retest and validate
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| * [12:10] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: ok
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| * [12:11] [[User:Ethan Schuman|Ethan Schuman]]: I could put something together if you'd like to test right now.
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| * [12:11] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: TriJin Bade also offers to be contacted...
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| * [12:11] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: thanks ethan
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| * [12:11] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: but i'd prefer to just triage and move on
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| * [12:11] [[User:Ethan Schuman|Ethan Schuman]]: Alright.
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| * [12:11] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: grins at ethan
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| * [12:11] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I appreciate your patience
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| * [12:11] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: Actually looking at teh history TriJin re-openned it
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| * [12:11] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: I'd re-resolve VWR-8537
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| * [12:12] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: is the oen its duplicate of reopened?
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| * [12:12] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: yes
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| * [12:12] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: randy re-opened teh dupe
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| * [12:12] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: ok
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| * [12:13] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I'm taking care of teh dup
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| * [12:13] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: is confused
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| * [12:13] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: lol
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| * [12:13] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: is now too lol
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| * [12:13] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: votes to move on
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| * [12:13] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: seconds
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| * [12:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: Senator from Battery?
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| * [12:14] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: what are we doing with 8717 - reresolving?
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| * [12:14] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: refuses to be a politician
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| * [12:14] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: we haven't got to 8717 yet aric
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| * [12:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: lols
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| * [12:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: VWR-8717[c
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| * [12:15] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8717
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| * [12:15] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: you mean all that dance and stuff was around7509?
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| * [12:15] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: holey moley
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| * [12:15] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: yes
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| * [12:15] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: lol
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| * [12:15] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: ok
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| * [12:15] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: lets move on
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| * [12:15] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: '@Sean
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| * Thanks for the Tipp. I did exactly this and it's working good for now :-)'
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| * [12:16] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: reads the New Issues in the comment
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| * [12:16] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]: "*EDIT #2*
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| * ..and while I was typing this, SL now finally crashed the first time after aprox. 3 1/2 hours. Well, that's some "normal" state."
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| * [12:16] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: but i think there's some useful stuff in here for zen to read
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| * [12:16] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I'd like to take this in with an eye toward zen and kona knowing about the asus drivers
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| * [12:17] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: ok
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| * [12:18] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8337
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| * [12:18] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: # VWR-8337[c
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| * [12:19] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: Alexa asked Skidz for more info he hasn'r responded yet
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| * [12:19] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: thanks for all the updates and triaging on this Ellla
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| * [12:20] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: But Ellla observed that it could be a dupe of the last one we just talked about
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| * [12:20] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: WB Ellla
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| * [12:20] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: Sounds like a dupe of the New Issues in the last one...
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| * [12:20] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: hmm so possibly zonealarm wasnt the sole issue on this if im reading ellla correctly?
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| * [12:21] [[User:Ellla McMahon|Ellla McMahon]]: sorry crashed ... 8337 is going to end up a duplicate of 8717 because people will upgrade their catalyst
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| * [12:21] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: so dup of 8717?
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| * [12:21] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: i would hold off on that
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| * [12:21] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: till we see if theres a response with the logs
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| * [12:21] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I really feel good about Haizo's comments
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| * [12:21] [[User:Ellla McMahon|Ellla McMahon]]: not yet .. but TAI are obviously aware of slow frame times .. they have addressed the issue in their release notes for 8.8
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| * [12:21] [[User:Ellla McMahon|Ellla McMahon]]: *ATI
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| * [12:22] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: such positive energy and feedback
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| * [12:22] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: 8717 is new
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| * [12:22] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: last weds.
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| * [12:23] [[User:Ellla McMahon|Ellla McMahon]]: yes the 8.8 was released on 20th
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| * [12:23] [[User:IM: Bridie|IM: Bridie]]: Linden: i see now
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| * [12:23] [[User:IM: Bridie|IM: Bridie]]: Linden: nice
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| * [12:23] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: ild still wait before linking them defiantely as a dupe. to me there seems a good chance mroe then one thing is in play
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| * [12:24] [[User:IM: Bridie|IM: Bridie]]: Linden: not to be dickish
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| * [12:24] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: but thats jsut a personal feeling looking at the comments
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| * [12:24] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I like the amount of information in 8337 and I really appreciate that skidz is engaged
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| * [12:24] [[User:IM: Bridie|IM: Bridie]]: Linden: i wasn't sure if it was appropriate to wear in public
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| * [12:24] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: it's worth calling out the info here to zen and steve and maybe even don
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| * [12:25] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I will Aric
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| * [12:25] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I'll flag this and the other one for them
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| * [12:26] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: next one?
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| * [12:26] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: VWR-5949[c
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| * [12:26] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5949
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| * [12:27] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: thanks alexa
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| * [12:27] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: Still only one contribution
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| * [12:27] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: yup
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| * [12:27] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I'll update the last traiged date and see if we get any others
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| * [12:27] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: Well, I can downgrade my "normal" client back to 19.0 and then add
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| * [12:27] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: ok
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| * [12:28] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: but i honestly think this is a dupe of others we've triaged
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| * [12:28] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: patch pool!
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| * [12:28] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: VWR-2710[c
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| * [12:28] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2710
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| * [12:28] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: Cummere - it is, but extra logs is goodness
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| * [12:29] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I think that Danica's comments say it all for 2710
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| * [12:29] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: Looks like we need a little more goodness on this patch...
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| * [12:29] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I need to ask if the attachment if updated
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| * [12:29] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: nods at bridie
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| * [12:29] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: yup
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| * [12:30] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: will do
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| * [12:30] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: it'd be cool to have a turkish viewer
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| * [12:30] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: VWR-8761[c
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| * [12:30] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: And a Swedish Chef one too...
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| * [12:30] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8761
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| * [12:30] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: glances at Bridie linden
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| * [12:31] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: grins
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| * [12:31] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: wow - i logged this < 24 hrs ago
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| * [12:31] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: nudges his pal
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| * [12:31] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: oh then let's skip it
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| * [12:31] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: it hasn't baked long enough
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| * [12:31] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: You have friends in high places :)
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| * [12:31] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: it's been imported
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| * [12:31] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: lol
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| * [12:31] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: or you have high friends in places
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| * [12:31] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: which is it?
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| * [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: it has?
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| * [12:32] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: yes
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| * [12:32] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: now I'm confused
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| * [12:32] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: by periapse
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| * [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I don't see a lJira number
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| * [12:32] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: The one you skipped has been imported by Peri already
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| * [12:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: 8761 doesn't look imported
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| * [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: oh ya
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| * [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: refresh your list
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| * [12:32] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I was lookinga t 2908
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| * [12:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: Gellan this used to work in 1.19.1 ?
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| * [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8761
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| * [12:32] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: don't know, but can check....
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| * [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: this is a plot isn't it
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| * [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: you're all in on it
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| * [12:33] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: hahahaha
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| * [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: just trying to make me paranoid and nervous huh?
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| * [12:33] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: poor aric...
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| * [12:33] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: we are teh meanz
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| * [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: well, i'm not going to fall for it
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| * [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I know you're try ing to make me crazy
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| * [12:33] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: My alt is on 1.18.5.3, it is broken in that version even
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| * [12:33] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: it's a short drive...
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| * [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: nods
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| * [12:33] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: luaghs
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| * [12:34] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: ty harleen. probably been broken for ages
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| * [12:34] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: does quick search for dupe
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| * [12:35] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: opps, might have just been lag, works in 1.18.5.3
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| * [12:36] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: okays is confused which one we on?
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| * [12:36] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: 8761
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| * [12:37] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: the bug repros for me on 1.19.1.4
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| * [12:37] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: repos for me on .20(15) and 1.21
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| * [12:37] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: kk, just finding issues w/attached objects
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| * [12:38] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: this isn't attached
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| * [12:38] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: import for triage?
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| * [12:38] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: ok
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| * [12:38] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: votes for import, but probably server?
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| * [12:38] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: no one probably picked up this was a bug
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| * [12:38] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: VWR-8283[c
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| * [12:38] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8283
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| * [12:38] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: vote for import um honestly not sure about the server or viewer
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| * [12:39] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: If it were server it would have failed in 1.18.5.3, though
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| * [12:39] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I can't tell if the problem is that it's a delay in writing to the server or actually a server bug
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| * [12:39] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: pass to sim triage and let them wrangle it
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| * [12:39] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: they DO get paid for something
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| * [12:39] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: :-)
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| * [12:39] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: hmm harleen has a point
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| * [12:39] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: ok :)
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| * [12:40] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: yes, but it might be lag in writing status to server or in getting the update on state delivered back from server
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| * [12:40] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]: actually Harleen had three points and a comma :p
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| * [12:40] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: :P Squirrel
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| * [12:40] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: lol
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| * [12:40] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: next one import though not sure if its a bug . ild say import as feature request
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| * [12:41] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I would change to a FR
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| * [12:41] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: nods
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| * [12:41] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: agreed
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| * [12:42] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: but not sure about importing - I'd leave and see if we get more votes?
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| * [12:42] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: +1
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| * [12:42] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: SVC-2049[c
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| * [12:42] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: ill vote for it if it will get it improted
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| * [12:43] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]: OH god I hate that
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| * [12:43] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2049
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| * [12:43] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: this has to be a dup
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| * [12:43] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: um.... i have a personal coment to make on this one though i think it should be private.
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| * [12:43] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: pardon my ignorance but who here would be ranking linden?
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| * [12:43] [[User:Squirrel's Fortune|Squirrel's Fortune]]: Cookie: Here's some wisdom for you:
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| * [12:43] [[User:Squirrel's Fortune|Squirrel's Fortune]]: Cookie: Matthew: Having a TV in the kitchen is a bad idea. Karen: Know what's worse? Having a kitchen in the bedroom.
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| * [12:44] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]: knows this fits in here somehow...
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| * [12:44] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: looks around?
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| * [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: ranking linden?
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| * [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: what do you mean?
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| * [12:45] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]: Whos' the Daddy?
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| * [12:45] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I know this is an issue as I have it each time I'm in SL
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| * [12:45] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: "who's the boss?"
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| * [12:45] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]: aric ill jsut im you then if i may?
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| * [12:45] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: and I know it happens with non phantom prims
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| * [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: ok cummere
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| * [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: I'll be rank
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| * [12:45] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: LOL
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| * [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]: :-)
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| * [12:45] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: yes, alexa - kelly's "This bug was specifically (based on the description) for phantom objects" worries me
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| * [12:46] [[User:IM: Aric|IM: Aric]]: Linden: will do
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| * [12:46] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: Then: kelly linden - 20/Aug/08 12:24 PM
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| * Thanks Wayfinder. Based on what has been said and a quick test I just did with some phantom objects, I'm going to suggest that this bug be re-closed and either one of the other issues you mentioned be re-opened or a new issue be created.
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| * [12:46] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: I get this in my workshop when building
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| * [12:46] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: it's definitely still a problem, for non-phantom objects
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| * [12:46] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: yup
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| * [12:47] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: now I'm pretty sure we have some version of the yo-yo bug inhouse
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| * [12:47] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: and I can search
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| * [12:47] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: is looking
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| * [12:47] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: let's move on, if that's ok with all -- we can link up later or import as necessary
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| * [12:48] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8516
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| * [12:49] [[User:IM: Aric|IM: Aric]]: Linden: i'm not going to give her permissions
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| * [12:49] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: VWR-8516[c
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| * [12:49] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]: Isn't there a cut off width where the sentence is pushed onto the next row?
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| * [12:50] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: I have the opposite problem on latest nightly: chat never extends beyond half-way across the screen
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| * [12:50] [[User:IM: Aric|IM: Aric]]: Linden: i understand
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| * [12:50] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: Does it get cut off Gellan, or wrap?
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| * [12:50] [[User:IM: Aric|IM: Aric]]: Linden: she just wants someone to take kelly out to the woodshed and spank him for talking down to resis
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| * [12:50] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]: Perhaps it should scale with the interface size
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| * [12:50] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: it wraps
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| * [12:50] [[User:IM: Aric|IM: Aric]]: Linden: i told her i'd have a word with him
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| * [12:50] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: but much too early
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| * [12:50] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: Delete or fix your settings file to fix that
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| * [12:50] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]: ok
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| * [12:50] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: glod sart for Harleen''s work arounds!
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| * [12:51] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]: Woot!
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| * [12:51] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]: Caused by Restore Down the window bug, which is another JIRA
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| * [12:52] [[User:IM: Aric|IM: Aric]]: Linden: yep
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| * [12:52] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]: I would vote for not importing VWR-8516
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