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Note that this would only make sense with a mono-device relay, as a multi one would still have to listen to everything on RLVR channel.
Note that this would only make sense with a mono-device relay, as a multi one would still have to listen to everything on RLVR channel.
--[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 10:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 10:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:Answering to myself: yes it makes sense, as this very relay session won't spam other devices during that time. This could become really efficient against lag if this becomes majoritary. This should definitely be proposed to the standard protocol as mandatory for 1.050. --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 10:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::For people coming after the battle: at that time, I mistook the intention of !x-listen for what is now called "!x-channel".--[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 14:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
The command I am really looking forward to being implemented is the the !x-handover command.  I can thing of some really useful uses of this .. patrolling drones sending to cells .. etc.  [[User:SimonT Quinnell|SimonT Quinnell]] 11:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:It has been implemented in my relay for ages now! But without much conviction because I didn't know any device using it, neither did I saw any real use for it. I would be interested to now more about your partolling drones! --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 14:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
About !x-message: I am more and more dubious about this meta-command: llInstantMessage will only make the script sleep for 2 seconds, which is not usually really an issue for such devices. Replacing it with more lag on RLVR channel doesn't look very good. Other opinions? --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 14:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Something I spotted in Marine's specification:
''Note from Marine : This metacommand is particularly interesting, and is likely to go to the Other Metacommands section in the future, or even in the main spec. It needs to be designed thoroughly first, though. I don't think it needs to be so complex, but it sure needs some checking.''
Note the reference to an "Other Metacommands" section. I don't know what her intent exactly is, but it looks quite close to ORG goals. Shouldn't we try to inquire on this? --[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 12:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
==Validation==
Many x-tensions are now rather mature but never have been formally approved or tested, even though they already have several implementations both side. I know that being too formal can be rather heavy, but on the other hand knowing that a wide panel of RLV scripters approves of them gives a good signal to other furniture makers that they definitely should start using them.
So... we really need to meet and ''accept'' most x-tensions that are now in ''draft'' stage. Also we need somebody to volunteer a test suite. Several !x-tensions are already candidates for bronze or silver (and maybe higher?).
Another signal would be publishing relay usage statistics. After running mine, I know that about 70% of the market is ORG ready.
--[[User:Satomi Ahn|Satomi Ahn]] 15:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

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About !x-listen: is it really useful when it would be enough to listen only to the victim's relay, and for the victim's relay to listen only to the controlling device? Note that this would only make sense with a mono-device relay, as a multi one would still have to listen to everything on RLVR channel. --Satomi Ahn 10:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Answering to myself: yes it makes sense, as this very relay session won't spam other devices during that time. This could become really efficient against lag if this becomes majoritary. This should definitely be proposed to the standard protocol as mandatory for 1.050. --Satomi Ahn 10:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
For people coming after the battle: at that time, I mistook the intention of !x-listen for what is now called "!x-channel".--Satomi Ahn 14:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The command I am really looking forward to being implemented is the the !x-handover command. I can thing of some really useful uses of this .. patrolling drones sending to cells .. etc. SimonT Quinnell 11:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

It has been implemented in my relay for ages now! But without much conviction because I didn't know any device using it, neither did I saw any real use for it. I would be interested to now more about your partolling drones! --Satomi Ahn 14:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


About !x-message: I am more and more dubious about this meta-command: llInstantMessage will only make the script sleep for 2 seconds, which is not usually really an issue for such devices. Replacing it with more lag on RLVR channel doesn't look very good. Other opinions? --Satomi Ahn 14:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Something I spotted in Marine's specification:

Note from Marine : This metacommand is particularly interesting, and is likely to go to the Other Metacommands section in the future, or even in the main spec. It needs to be designed thoroughly first, though. I don't think it needs to be so complex, but it sure needs some checking.

Note the reference to an "Other Metacommands" section. I don't know what her intent exactly is, but it looks quite close to ORG goals. Shouldn't we try to inquire on this? --Satomi Ahn 12:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Validation

Many x-tensions are now rather mature but never have been formally approved or tested, even though they already have several implementations both side. I know that being too formal can be rather heavy, but on the other hand knowing that a wide panel of RLV scripters approves of them gives a good signal to other furniture makers that they definitely should start using them.

So... we really need to meet and accept most x-tensions that are now in draft stage. Also we need somebody to volunteer a test suite. Several !x-tensions are already candidates for bronze or silver (and maybe higher?).

Another signal would be publishing relay usage statistics. After running mine, I know that about 70% of the market is ORG ready.

--Satomi Ahn 15:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)