User talk:Jaszon Maynard/Proposed Introduction

Your doing well, keep up the good work. All those dead-end links will encourage other people to add more content. -- Strife Onizuka 15:49, 25 February 2008 (PST)

• LOL, I actually hope they don't :P Until a Help portal is created, there isn't much point to adding articles to this wiki, whether intended for newbies or vets. And some of those dead links there's a lot I'd want to write about myself in there...but I'm not going to bother until we get some reaction about having a Help portal. And these pages are still only in my user space...because there's no place for them to go on the wiki as yet. I'm just hoping that seeing this page and User:Jaszon_Maynard/Proposed_Second_Life_Help_Portal gets people convinced that a Help portal is possible, and a really good idea. If you like the idea of a Help portal, and more content like this, please weigh-in at Talk:Main_Page#What_is_this_wiki_for_.3F

--Jaszon Maynard 16:08, 25 February 2008 (PST)

The wiki is the wiki, and if you are motivated and nobody is interesting in standing in they way, then you can do what you want. If you are doings something wrong people will tell you. Find other people who are interested in working on this project and LL will be overjoyed. With the LSL Portal it was like "hey look, an official wiki, lets put stuff on it" ... so we did. There are times for asking permission and times for asking forgiveness. If you produce quality content you won't need to ask for either. Always respect the opinions of others and try to strike compromises. Incorporate the work of others into your own, it will help balance and moderate your message. *yawns* well I think I'm going to head to bed. -- Strife Onizuka 17:28, 25 February 2008 (PST)

• --Hmmm, it seems like no one can create a Main Page portal except for Linden Labs? Are you suggesting I just create my own tree of documentation articles (with a "table of contents"...kind of my own "portal") and it'll be allowed to just stand despite it not being a "blessed" portal? I fully get the "ask forgiveness" idea, but I'd rather not put a bunch of work in if it will just get hammered by Linden. I suppose if I do a whole tree of articles it doesn't NEED a portal...though a portal would make it easier for new users to find.

--Did you look at my proposed Help portal page? Did that seem like a good "table of contents"?

--Jaszon Maynard 18:49, 25 February 2008 (PST)

• --I notice in Editing_Guidelines that this wiki is only for "the communities represented by the portals on this wiki"...and newbies, and residents seeking general help, aren't one of those communities :( I guess I could take everything I have to say and move it to any other SL-related wiki on the web like http://secondlife.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page and hope that people start using that other wiki more heavily if I can get it publicized.

--Jaszon Maynard 01:08, 26 February 2008 (PST)

Ignore the listing on the Editing Guidelines, it hasn't been updated. For a full listing of portals... Category:Portals. Your ToC is a good start. If you are really worried about it, why not ask LL at one of these Linden's office hours: Amber Linden, Blue Linden, George Linden, Jon Linden, Lexie Linden, Robin Linden, Torley Linden. I would start with going to Torley's office hour, then Robin's, then Blue's and then Jon's. Get feedback and alter the order as you see fit. -- Strife Onizuka 05:01, 26 February 2008 (PST)

Your goal is to improve the user experience. LL would be stupid to squash it. The natures of wikis are to be redefined. Guidelines are written to handle the current situation, rarely are they farsighted enough to cope with the future without being changed. The QA Portal could be seen as a derivative of the OS Portal; your help portal could be seen as a derivative of the Volunteer Portal. -- Strife Onizuka 05:10, 26 February 2008 (PST)