Beta Server Office Hours/Minutes/2013-08-29

[2013/08/29 14:59]  Blake Burger: * Hehehe *
[2013/08/29 14:59]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Rex.
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Jenna Felton: hello :) all incomers
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Jonthan.
[2013/08/29 15:00]  arton Rotaru: hello again
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Maestro.
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Blake Burger: sup Maestro
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Maestro Linden: Hi guys
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Rex Cronon: hello everybody
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Inara Breen: Hey, Maestro
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Rex Cronon: hi yuzuru
[2013/08/29 15:00]  Rex Cronon: hi maestro
[2013/08/29 15:01]  Inara Breen: Hey, Rex
[2013/08/29 15:01]  Rex Cronon: hi inara
[2013/08/29 15:01]  Yuzuru (yuzuru.jewell): Hello, Baker.
[2013/08/29 15:02]  Rex Cronon: if u r late, can
[2013/08/29 15:02]  Maestro Linden: We don't have a lot for the agenda, aside from this week's updates and some information about updates for next week: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group#Agenda
[2013/08/29 15:03]  Rex Cronon: 't stay, or can't even come go here to follow group meeting live: http://rcds.nfshost.com/ques_view_chatLog.php?queOwner=llsl%3ARex+Cronon&queName=chatLog&pg=1
[2013/08/29 15:03]  Rex Cronon: we got new tos?
[2013/08/29 15:04]  Maestro Linden: Yes, I've seen new TOS prompts
[2013/08/29 15:04]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Me too
[2013/08/29 15:04]  Maestro Linden: I.. have to admit, I didn't study it to see what changed
[2013/08/29 15:04]  arton Rotaru: :p
[2013/08/29 15:05]  arton Rotaru: we do^^
[2013/08/29 15:05]  Lucia Nightfire: TOS is like EULA, you're gonna agree to it
[2013/08/29 15:06]  arton Rotaru: well, last time with the third party L$ exchanges
[2013/08/29 15:06]  arton Rotaru: was quite a shocker :p
[2013/08/29 15:06]  Rex Cronon: u keep your finger crossed when u click on agree:)
[2013/08/29 15:07]  arton Rotaru: you ordered a washing machine when you agreed :p
[2013/08/29 15:07]  Maestro Linden: I don't have any information handy about that, but I do have some about the server updates...
[2013/08/29 15:07]  arton Rotaru: yay updates
[2013/08/29 15:07]  Jenna Felton: /me smiles
[2013/08/29 15:07]  Maestro Linden: The main channel got the version that was on Magnum last week, which also included all the changes present on BlueSteel and LeTigre
[2013/08/29 15:07]  Rex Cronon: i'll pay in linndes:)
[2013/08/29 15:08]  Maestro Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server/13#13.08.17.280013
[2013/08/29 15:08]  Rex Cronon: lindens*
[2013/08/29 15:08]  Maestro Linden: There were some bug fixes, such as fixing the listen position of LSL scripts in child prims
[2013/08/29 15:08]  riskdose: i have very strange problem with uploading mesh
[2013/08/29 15:09]  riskdose: ?
[2013/08/29 15:09]  Maestro Linden: The one new feature was to make the shutdown countdown smarter
[2013/08/29 15:09]  Maestro Linden: It used to be, if an estate manager did a delayed shutdown, to restart the region after 2 minutes, the sim would always wait the full time before restarting
[2013/08/29 15:10]  Rex Cronon: so now the link that has the listening script listens at pos where the link is?
[2013/08/29 15:10]  Lucia Nightfire: I need it to tp me home when teh countdown starts, lol
[2013/08/29 15:10]  Maestro Linden: Rex: yep, except for attachments, which always listen from the avatar's position
[2013/08/29 15:10]  Rex Cronon: ok
[2013/08/29 15:10]  Maestro Linden: with this update, the shutdown will happen very soon after the last avatar leaves the region
[2013/08/29 15:11]  Maestro Linden: so the sim can shut down (and restart) sooner than before
[2013/08/29 15:12]  Maestro Linden: Right now, this only affects restarts by region owners or estate managers, but we plan to have the server deploy tools take advantage of this change, so that rolling restarts can finish more quickly
[2013/08/29 15:12]  arton Rotaru: nice
[2013/08/29 15:12]  Jenna Felton: when talking about sim restarts, is it possible to send avatars thatare away on the restarting sim, to another up region instead of logging out?
[2013/08/29 15:13]  Jenna Felton: i mean avatars in busy or away mode
[2013/08/29 15:13]  Rex Cronon: what happens if the region/sim that they r sent to also restarts?
[2013/08/29 15:13]  Maestro Linden: Hm Jenna, right now I think you'd need to have a special viewer to do that
[2013/08/29 15:14]  Jenna Felton: the sim must be after restart or not in restart process :)
[2013/08/29 15:14]  Lucia Nightfire: yeah, tpv features terriroty, but viable
[2013/08/29 15:14]  Lucia Nightfire: *territory
[2013/08/29 15:14]  Jenna Felton: is there a TPV that does it?
[2013/08/29 15:15]  Maestro Linden: if we added a special LSL event for pending server shutdowns, you could potentially have a script that moves your avatar with llTeleportAgent...
[2013/08/29 15:15]  Lucia Nightfire: afaik, no
[2013/08/29 15:15]  Lucia Nightfire: and Maestro you need that anyway
[2013/08/29 15:15]  Jenna Felton: ok, that event would work perfectly
[2013/08/29 15:15]  arton Rotaru: taht would be a cool event anyway
[2013/08/29 15:15]  Nal (nalates.urriah): The trick is going to be in knowing which regions have already restarted.
[2013/08/29 15:16]  Lucia Nightfire: tip, don't tp to a same channel region, lol
[2013/08/29 15:16]  Jenna Felton: the script could manage a list of a dozen sims for fall back and ask about the state
[2013/08/29 15:16]  Lucia Nightfire: I remember one time I had to tp like four times within 4 min
[2013/08/29 15:16]  Lucia Nightfire: kep tping into a region that was counting down
[2013/08/29 15:16]  Jenna Felton: not sure if there is stte to request, telling if the sim is in restart process
[2013/08/29 15:17]  arton Rotaru: I see alot of TP'ing on tues and wedS
[2013/08/29 15:17]  Jenna Felton: stte - state
[2013/08/29 15:17]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): Maestro that woud be a wonderful event to send
[2013/08/29 15:17]  Nal (nalates.urriah): I think we have all been chased across the grid by restarts.
[2013/08/29 15:17]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): part and parcel of the Sl experience Nal.
[2013/08/29 15:18]  Maestro Linden: oh, I actually mixed up the new features - that 'shut down as soon as last avatar leaves, even if the timer hasn't expired' feature is only in RC at this point
[2013/08/29 15:19]  Maestro Linden: the main channel got a different shut down feature
[2013/08/29 15:19]  Maestro Linden: where region entry and rezzing from avatar inventory are both prevented if the region is facing imminent shutdown
[2013/08/29 15:19]  Jenna Felton: both are usefull features
[2013/08/29 15:20]  riskdose: fancy chicken
[2013/08/29 15:20]  riskdose: wow
[2013/08/29 15:20]  Maestro Linden: That threshold is.. if the region is about to shut down within 2 minutes, I believe
[2013/08/29 15:20]  Lucia Nightfire: I heard it was the last minute
[2013/08/29 15:20]  Lucia Nightfire: never tested myself
[2013/08/29 15:21]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Someone was telling us it was 60 seconds...
[2013/08/29 15:21]  Maestro Linden: oh maybe you're right
[2013/08/29 15:21]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): reason for TP failure, "Region is going down and is not accepting TP"
[2013/08/29 15:21]  Maestro Linden: Caleb confirms it
[2013/08/29 15:21]  Maestro Linden: 60 seconds
[2013/08/29 15:22]  Lucia Nightfire: now if only the region shut down queuing/sim state save issue could be solved to prevent those hour long server time lossses, lol
[2013/08/29 15:22]  Maestro Linden: so hopefully that will mitigate some of the frustration when you're trying to flee to a 'safe' region during a rolling restart
[2013/08/29 15:23]  Jenna Felton: btw, can you search for a sim by channel name? or a sim that would rather accept incoming avatars?
[2013/08/29 15:24]  Jenna Felton: by now i can only find a RC sim via map when i , say enter Magnum there
[2013/08/29 15:24]  riskdose: hi everyone
[2013/08/29 15:24]  Lucia Nightfire: I'd like to have channel data availabel on the map tile data, lol
[2013/08/29 15:24]  Rex Cronon: hi
[2013/08/29 15:24]  riskdose: i have kind of strange problem
[2013/08/29 15:24]  Maestro Linden: Hm, you could do that for the agni sandboxes which are named after their channels..
[2013/08/29 15:24]  Jenna Felton: hello Riskdose :)
[2013/08/29 15:24]  riskdose: can you hlep me
[2013/08/29 15:24]  Maestro Linden: but that's only 4 regions per channel
[2013/08/29 15:25]  riskdose: i have problem with uploading mesh
[2013/08/29 15:25]  arton Rotaru: be patient risk
[2013/08/29 15:25]  arton Rotaru: take a seat
[2013/08/29 15:25]  Lucia Nightfire: lol
[2013/08/29 15:25]  Nal (nalates.urriah): I think Tyce Shepard of Grid Survey publishes a lists of regions by channel
[2013/08/29 15:25]  Maestro Linden: we can get to that after the release talks, risk
[2013/08/29 15:25]  riskdose: okay
[2013/08/29 15:26]  Jenna Felton: thanks Nal
[2013/08/29 15:26]  Maestro Linden: The RCs have another new feature..., which is more options for parcel access controls
[2013/08/29 15:26]  Lucia Nightfire: need moar viewer
[2013/08/29 15:27]  Jenna Felton: what are that access controls?
[2013/08/29 15:27]  Lucia Nightfire: I was afraid to touch access controls in teh latest release
[2013/08/29 15:27]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): no I think we have quite enough viewers
[2013/08/29 15:27]  Lucia Nightfire: after I saw something about it messing up access level with what you mod
[2013/08/29 15:27]  Maestro Linden: whispers: The version of the simulator in RC now allows you to set a parcel up as both 'allow only payment info on file' *and* 'allow members of group <parcel group>'
[2013/08/29 15:27]  Rex Cronon: so now if u have too many attached scripts u can't enter? or if your hair/shoes too fance u r also denied entry?
[2013/08/29 15:27]  Maestro Linden: didn't mean to whisper that :)
[2013/08/29 15:28]  Jenna Felton: (access control options)
[2013/08/29 15:28]  Lucia Nightfire: Rex, thats a pipe dream
[2013/08/29 15:28]  Rex Cronon: too fancy*
[2013/08/29 15:28]  Maestro Linden: This allows a pretty simple use case,
[2013/08/29 15:28]  Maestro Linden: where you want to allow your friends and general members of the public into your parcel, but don't want to allow people who may be griefers
[2013/08/29 15:29]  Rex Cronon: u use that mestro on this whole sim to prevent intentional sim crashes:)
[2013/08/29 15:29]  Rex Cronon: u could*
[2013/08/29 15:29]  Maestro Linden: the 'payment info on file' restriction tends to block most griefers,
[2013/08/29 15:29]  Rex Cronon: maestro*
[2013/08/29 15:30]  Jenna Felton: like region white- and banlists but on a parcel
[2013/08/29 15:30]  Jenna Felton: ?
[2013/08/29 15:30]  Maestro Linden: but it can be a pain if you have a friend or alt who doesn't have that set
[2013/08/29 15:30]  Jenna Felton: ok
[2013/08/29 15:30]  Lucia Nightfire: not a good setting for areas of commerce that depend on all guest access though, but what can you do
[2013/08/29 15:30]  Maestro Linden: so with the new option, you can also invite such non-payment-info friends to the group, and whitelist them specifically for access
[2013/08/29 15:30]  Lucia Nightfire: ie, sandboxes, malls
[2013/08/29 15:30]  Maestro Linden: Jenna: yeah, I'm talking about the access tab in parcel options
[2013/08/29 15:31]  Jenna Felton: cool
[2013/08/29 15:31]  Maestro Linden: also, you can already do this at the estate level
[2013/08/29 15:31]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): Now, for the purpose of region access do you have to have the group active, or just have the group?
[2013/08/29 15:31]  Maestro Linden: Just belong to the group, I believe
[2013/08/29 15:31]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): nod
[2013/08/29 15:31]  Kallista Arliss (kallista.destiny): nods nods
[2013/08/29 15:32]  Maestro Linden: Unfortunately, the current release viewer doesn't allow this new setting due to the UI logic, so a viewer update will be required to make this usable
[2013/08/29 15:33]  Maestro Linden: We've tested an internal viewer build, which is working well, so hopefully it won't be long before there's a beta or RC viewer with the UI change
[2013/08/29 15:34]  arton Rotaru: does it have ribbon particles as well?
[2013/08/29 15:34]  arton Rotaru: ^^
[2013/08/29 15:34]  Lucia Nightfire: not everyday you add options to About Land, heh
[2013/08/29 15:34]  Lucia Nightfire: yeah, that carrot was dangled early, heh
[2013/08/29 15:35]  Maestro Linden: Good question, Arton
[2013/08/29 15:35]  arton Rotaru: yeah, it's been a while now
[2013/08/29 15:35]  Maestro Linden: /me is bugging Alexa about ribbon particles
[2013/08/29 15:35]  arton Rotaru: just wonering whats holding it off
[2013/08/29 15:35]  Rex Cronon: i can see ribbon particles hair:)
[2013/08/29 15:35]  arton Rotaru: maybe someone forgot they have that code :p
[2013/08/29 15:35]  Rex Cronon: in the close future:)
[2013/08/29 15:36]  Maestro Linden: No wait, I see it linked up to the same viewer release :)
[2013/08/29 15:36]  arton Rotaru: ahhh
[2013/08/29 15:36]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Maestro, say something to Oz about it too.
[2013/08/29 15:36]  Lucia Nightfire: just need the lsl syntax
[2013/08/29 15:36]  Lucia Nightfire: and an updated wiki
[2013/08/29 15:37]  Nal (nalates.urriah): So, the ribbon render is in the viewer? Just not the UI?
[2013/08/29 15:38]  Maestro Linden: the new particle options are accessed via llParticleSystem()
[2013/08/29 15:38]  Maestro Linden: so there's no viewer UI component, aside from perhaps syntax highlighting of the constant names
[2013/08/29 15:39]  Maestro Linden: mostly, the viewer is just adding support to understand the new parameters correctly and render them
[2013/08/29 15:39]  arton Rotaru: syntax highlighting... will they ever be updated again?
[2013/08/29 15:41]  arton Rotaru: anyway, we stopped at parcel access
[2013/08/29 15:41]  Maestro Linden: there are some plans to have a better system to automatically sync the viewer to all the functions and constants that the server supports, but I'm not sure where those plans are at this point
[2013/08/29 15:41]  arton Rotaru: yeah Andrew wanted to do that, but the interest kist took him away
[2013/08/29 15:41]  arton Rotaru: list even*
[2013/08/29 15:42]  Nal (nalates.urriah): I think Simon was working on it... then Ima took over and Ima and Oz were looking at it... too much to remember.
[2013/08/29 15:42]  Maestro Linden: were there any questions about the new parcel access option?
[2013/08/29 15:42]  Maestro Linden: Yes, I think Oz would be the best person to ask about it, Nal
[2013/08/29 15:42]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Maestro, your forum posts helped on the access thing.
[2013/08/29 15:42]  Jenna Felton: i think i wait for the viewer change to see them
[2013/08/29 15:43]  Lucia Nightfire: they won't affect me or my business, heh
[2013/08/29 15:43]  Maestro Linden: Okay, that's about all that I had for updates
[2013/08/29 15:44]  riskdose: now do i ask my question
[2013/08/29 15:44]  riskdose: ?
[2013/08/29 15:44]  Maestro Linden: Monty has some HTTP changes to the server which are planned for next week
[2013/08/29 15:44]  arton Rotaru: 45 minutes of updates
[2013/08/29 15:44]  Maestro Linden: which pave the way for smarter asset fetching
[2013/08/29 15:44]  Maestro Linden: but we can talk about it next week :)
[2013/08/29 15:44]  arton Rotaru: sound good
[2013/08/29 15:44]  Maestro Linden: Sure risk
[2013/08/29 15:44]  Maestro Linden: what seems to be the problem with mesh uploads?
[2013/08/29 15:44]  riskdose: i have problem with uploading mesh it's say you dont have right to upload me
[2013/08/29 15:44]  riskdose: mesh
[2013/08/29 15:45]  riskdose: and when i try to go on website it's show me white blank page
[2013/08/29 15:45]  Lucia Nightfire: you have to take a test and have payment info on file afaik
[2013/08/29 15:45]  riskdose: both are i did on main grid
[2013/08/29 15:45]  Maestro Linden: is this URL blank for you?  https://secondlife.aditi.lindenlab.com/my/account/ip/tutorial.php?
[2013/08/29 15:45]  MartinRJ Fayray: What was the url that you were using? I remember there was the wrong link to the mesh ip tutorial for the beta grid, somewhere
[2013/08/29 15:45]  Maestro Linden: Aditi has a separate mesh tutorial than Agni
[2013/08/29 15:46]  riskdose: this page i can't open
[2013/08/29 15:46]  Nal (nalates.urriah): You have to do it again on the beta grid
[2013/08/29 15:46]  riskdose: beta grid ip tutorial on my pc
[2013/08/29 15:46]  riskdose: dont know why
[2013/08/29 15:46]  arton Rotaru: try loging in from here https://secondlife.aditi.lindenlab.com/my/account/mesh-landing.php
[2013/08/29 15:46]  riskdose: it's jus white blank page come
[2013/08/29 15:46]  riskdose: and loading finish
[2013/08/29 15:46]  Jonathan Yap: what is your browser?
[2013/08/29 15:46]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Are you using the viewer's internal browser?
[2013/08/29 15:46]  riskdose: i try chrome firefox and internet explorer
[2013/08/29 15:46]  Maestro Linden: can anybody else view that page?
[2013/08/29 15:47]  Jenna Felton: can ynone log into it? i am when i loginto it kinda redeliver to the main grid wb site, so i get no access into the aditi wb site. Just tested with firefox
[2013/08/29 15:47]  arton Rotaru: I can view the aditi login page
[2013/08/29 15:47]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Get routed to login page with ADITI in the URL\
[2013/08/29 15:47]  Jenna Felton: ok, Aton link worked
[2013/08/29 15:47]  riskdose: i can see the account page
[2013/08/29 15:47]  riskdose: but mesh status one i can't see just white page come
[2013/08/29 15:47]  riskdose: do i take picutres
[2013/08/29 15:48]  arton Rotaru: and logged in there
[2013/08/29 15:48]  Nal (nalates.urriah): In Chrome I get the IP Tutorial Start...
[2013/08/29 15:48]  riskdose: to show you
[2013/08/29 15:48]  riskdose: on main grid is everything okay for me
[2013/08/29 15:48]  Jenna Felton: this page is blank for me too: https://secondlife.aditi.lindenlab.com/my/account/ip/index.php?lang=en-US
[2013/08/29 15:48]  riskdose: but on this other grid when i go for ip test it's not working
[2013/08/29 15:48]  Jenna Felton: mesh upload statis
[2013/08/29 15:48]  arton Rotaru: try from this link risk
[2013/08/29 15:48]  arton Rotaru: https://secondlife.aditi.lindenlab.com/my/account/mesh-landing.php
[2013/08/29 15:49]  Rex Cronon: risk, maybe u have antivirus, noscript on you computer?
[2013/08/29 15:49]  Rex Cronon: on your *
[2013/08/29 15:49]  riskdose: let me see if this work
[2013/08/29 15:49]  Nal (nalates.urriah): cookies off or blocked?
[2013/08/29 15:50]  Maestro Linden: I see a blank page when I visit Jenna's last URL, but I didn't arrive at that page when following the original https://secondlife.aditi.lindenlab.com/my/account/mesh-landing.php link from the Mesh wiki page
[2013/08/29 15:50]  MartinRJ Fayray: Only the last link that jenna posted didn't work for me.\
[2013/08/29 15:50]  MartinRJ Fayray: All others worked.
[2013/08/29 15:50]  arton Rotaru: ok true, mesh status page is white for me too
[2013/08/29 15:51]  MartinRJ Fayray: The wrong url is somewhere in the knowledge base, there's a jira for it
[2013/08/29 15:51]  Maestro Linden: ah, I see, '/my/account/ip/index.php' is the mesh upload status page
[2013/08/29 15:51]  Jenna Felton: strange, that link i get when clicking mesh upload status on the web site
[2013/08/29 15:51]  riskdose: this one link work for me
[2013/08/29 15:51]  riskdose: but when i see mesh stutus still this white balnk page come
[2013/08/29 15:52]  riskdose: i clear test after this i saw
[2013/08/29 15:52]  riskdose: still white page
[2013/08/29 15:52]  riskdose: and i have fileinfo on file but here not show
[2013/08/29 15:52]  riskdose: on my profile
[2013/08/29 15:52]  MartinRJ Fayray: BUG-1640
[2013/08/29 15:52]  riskdose: if anyone want to test i have team viewer
[2013/08/29 15:52]  Rex Cronon: maybe if u were to reset your pass than the updated profile info will be loaded on this grid too?
[2013/08/29 15:53]  riskdose: i change my password
[2013/08/29 15:53]  arton Rotaru: alright, the mest upload status is white, but i'm able to do the quiz
[2013/08/29 15:53]  riskdose: after this new password not work on beta grid
[2013/08/29 15:53]  riskdose: still old password
[2013/08/29 15:53]  riskdose: i login
[2013/08/29 15:53]  Maestro Linden: I would try to do the quiz first
[2013/08/29 15:53]  Rex Cronon: u need to wait 24 hours after pass change
[2013/08/29 15:53]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Also, try logging out of the web site and close the viewer. Then clear browser cache and login again.
[2013/08/29 15:53]  arton Rotaru: yeah, do the quiz
[2013/08/29 15:54]  riskdose: i call even on secondlife phone number
[2013/08/29 15:54]  riskdose: they say we dont know
[2013/08/29 15:54]  riskdose: we will email you back
[2013/08/29 15:55]  riskdose: and this is form long time not today
[2013/08/29 15:55]  riskdose: i try soo much times but i not able to upload mesh
[2013/08/29 15:55]  riskdose: i not try on main grid
[2013/08/29 15:55]  riskdose: but on beta here i try i can't uplaoad
[2013/08/29 15:56]  Lucia Nightfire: hey Maestro when is llXorBase64WeReallyMeanItThisTime() going to be rolled out? lol
[2013/08/29 15:56]  Maestro Linden: heh,
[2013/08/29 15:56]  MartinRJ Fayray: Lol
[2013/08/29 15:56]  Maestro Linden: What Lucia is referring to is a bug from this week,
[2013/08/29 15:56]  Rex Cronon: what bug?
[2013/08/29 15:57]  Lucia Nightfire: I saw "accepted" and said oh boy not anotehr one, lol
[2013/08/29 15:57]  Maestro Linden: BUG-3763 llXorBase64 produce different result of llXorBase64StringsCorrect
[2013/08/29 15:57]  riskdose: and ya i can't see my billing infomraion here too
[2013/08/29 15:57]  Maestro Linden: Kelly has already fixed it,
[2013/08/29 15:57]  Rex Cronon: so the new xor function works now?
[2013/08/29 15:57]  Maestro Linden: I think the plan is to just use llXorBase64
[2013/08/29 15:57]  Maestro Linden: the fix is only on aditi
[2013/08/29 15:58]  Lucia Nightfire: what region if I may ask
[2013/08/29 15:58]  Rex Cronon: so i was right that the new xor function was wrong:)
[2013/08/29 15:58]  riskdose: are you gonna fix my problem ?
[2013/08/29 15:58]  Nal (nalates.urriah): I thought llXorBase64 was going to be left along to avoid breaking legacy stuff based on it having a bug they work around.
[2013/08/29 15:58]  Maestro Linden: risk, my recommendation is to try to do the quiz
[2013/08/29 15:59]  riskdose: where
[2013/08/29 15:59]  arton Rotaru: yeah, login from that link and do the quiz
[2013/08/29 15:59]  Jenna Felton: when i look at risk profile, there is no paiment info on file set
[2013/08/29 15:59]  riskdose: ?
[2013/08/29 15:59]  Lucia Nightfire: the older functions still output, but wont' compile
[2013/08/29 15:59]  arton Rotaru: https://secondlife.aditi.lindenlab.com/my/account/ip/tutorial.php?
[2013/08/29 15:59]  MartinRJ Fayray: If it doesn't work, please go to http://support.secondlife.com/create-case and create a ticket
[2013/08/29 15:59]  Maestro Linden: ^ what arton said
[2013/08/29 16:00]  Nal (nalates.urriah): When you file a ticket, refer to this conversation and BUG-1640 (is that right one?)
[2013/08/29 16:00]  Lucia Nightfire: ya
[2013/08/29 16:00]  Rex Cronon: so now u can only compile with llXorBase64? oh noes:(
[2013/08/29 16:00]  Maestro Linden: Rex: no?
[2013/08/29 16:00]  Lucia Nightfire: I'd take a fix to the current xorb64 function over a new one anyway
[2013/08/29 16:01]  Rex Cronon: "[15:59] Lucia Nightfire: the older functions still output, but wont' compile"
[2013/08/29 16:01]  Maestro Linden: Nal, llXorBase64 is still pretty new.. and it was totally broken in cases where the 2nd string was wrapped more than once
[2013/08/29 16:01]  MartinRJ Fayray: The old function does compile with the official viewer
[2013/08/29 16:01]  Maestro Linden: llXorBase64StringsCorrect definitely still compiles
[2013/08/29 16:01]  Lucia Nightfire: weird, I couldn't get it to compile when the new one was released on teh day it was released on teh channel it was released
[2013/08/29 16:02]  Maestro Linden: because that's how somebody found out that it's not the same as llXorBase64 for his script
[2013/08/29 16:02]  Lucia Nightfire: maybe it was unredepreceted, yeah
[2013/08/29 16:03]  Rex Cronon: so when will the fix for the new xor function get to the main grid?
[2013/08/29 16:03]  Lucia Nightfire: 2 weeks min
[2013/08/29 16:04]  Maestro Linden: I would agree with Lucia's estimate; this morning I thought this release could perhaps hit RC next week, but then I found some crashers which will probably delay it
[2013/08/29 16:05]  Lucia Nightfire: what region has the fix on aditi?
[2013/08/29 16:05]  Rex Cronon: now i need to redo a lot of scripts:(
[2013/08/29 16:05]  MartinRJ Fayray: Rex why?
[2013/08/29 16:05]  Maestro Linden: Lucia, right now there are some regions on that channel (DRTSIM-226), but they're all on closed-access estates
[2013/08/29 16:06]  Rex Cronon: i need the new xor function for more secure communications
[2013/08/29 16:06]  Maestro Linden: we can move Chooqu to that channel if you want to test, Lucia
[2013/08/29 16:06]  Rex Cronon: like for example this chatlogger here:)
[2013/08/29 16:06]  Lucia Nightfire: yeah as I think I'm nto the only one that will need it, lol
[2013/08/29 16:06]  MartinRJ Fayray: Yeah but where's the problem with that? The function will stay as it is now, just with the fix in it
[2013/08/29 16:06]  Caleb Linden: it'll be up in a few minutes
[2013/08/29 16:07]  MartinRJ Fayray: (For BUG-3763 )
[2013/08/29 16:07]  Lucia Nightfire: Rex is comparing results to php generated returns
[2013/08/29 16:07]  Maestro Linden: Rex, I believe that unless your password string has nulls (and is affected by https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SCR-35 ), then llXorBase64StringsCorrect() ought to be identical to llXorBase64()
[2013/08/29 16:07]  Baker Linden: I didn't have anything new or exciting this week.  But I need to do some testing on this grid, so I have to go! Have a great weekend, and for any Americans, have a good Labor Day weekend!
[2013/08/29 16:07]  MartinRJ Fayray: Goodbye Baker
[2013/08/29 16:07]  Lucia Nightfire: later gator, er chicken
[2013/08/29 16:08]  Rex Cronon: it can have nulls
[2013/08/29 16:08]  Maestro Linden: and by 'password string' I mean the 2nd input argument
[2013/08/29 16:08]  Rex Cronon: i thought the new xor will fix the problem with nulls
[2013/08/29 16:08]  MartinRJ Fayray: It did
[2013/08/29 16:08]  Rex Cronon: tc baker
[2013/08/29 16:09]  MartinRJ Fayray: There's just another edge-case which also got fixed now
[2013/08/29 16:09]  Maestro Linden: it did, but it has an off-by-one-character error when the 2nd string is repeated more than once
[2013/08/29 16:09]  Maestro Linden: which has a pending fix
[2013/08/29 16:09]  Lucia Nightfire: is that fix already implemented?
[2013/08/29 16:10]  Lucia Nightfire: on that Chooqu region
[2013/08/29 16:10]  Maestro Linden: yep, but it got deployed -just- before this meeting, so nobody's tested it yet :)
[2013/08/29 16:10]  Lucia Nightfire: heh
[2013/08/29 16:10]  Maestro Linden: chooqu is starting up with that version right now
[2013/08/29 16:10]  Lucia Nightfire: thanks
[2013/08/29 16:10]  MartinRJ Fayray: Thanks much, Maestro
[2013/08/29 16:10]  Maestro Linden: I have to get going too
[2013/08/29 16:10]  Rex Cronon: lets hope this one works:)
[2013/08/29 16:10]  Maestro Linden: thanks for coming, everybody!
[2013/08/29 16:11]  arton Rotaru: thanks for the meeting
[2013/08/29 16:11]  Rex Cronon: tc maestro
[2013/08/29 16:11]  Nal (nalates.urriah): Thanks Maestro
[2013/08/29 16:11]  Caleb Linden: chooqu is up
[2013/08/29 16:11]  Lucia Nightfire: laters
[2013/08/29 16:11]  Rex Cronon: tc everybody and have a nice day:)
[2013/08/29 16:11]  MartinRJ Fayray: Goodbye everyone
[2013/08/29 16:11]  Nal (nalates.urriah): bye all
[2013/08/29 16:11]  Lucia Nightfire: thanks, Caleb