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==Cons==
==Cons==
===Technical===
===Technical===
Ever tried to use Tor or Freenet?
===Privacy===
===Privacy===

Revision as of 20:45, 25 January 2007

This page is for showing the different pros and cons of different approaches of new ways of getting new URL's to the client. A big question on the minds of developers is LL's policies on Expected Privacy. Understanding what LL thinks on this may lead us to understanding what LL will do. Let's do our best to fill this out with both sides.

Client downloading of URL

The client directly downloads the URL.

Pros

Technical

Simple and straightfoward.

Privacy

Parcel owners in Second Life will be able to implement the same defense techniques that have been used in IRC for years. The problem of griefing on unverified alts will be mitigated.

Cons

Technical

Minor risk that some users won't be able to reach some URLs, causing support issues because a user can't download a spacific image.

Privacy

Risk due to items that can track users, possibly allowing alts to be matched to their owners.

LL Downloading of URL, passing back to client

This solution suggests that if anyone needs to download a URL, that LL will download the URL, then host a copy of that image on LL's servers. It will then be treated like any other asset hosted by LL. The client will request the URL from the file server, and the file server will spit back a copy of the requested image.

Pros

Technical

Guarantees that the image will be served up in a timely fashion because it will be hosted by LL's content servers. NOTE: Actually this is not true because LL would still have to fetch the image from the source and if the source is down or has a slow connection LL won't be able to fetch it any better than a client

Privacy

Good for privacy because the user never connects to a foreign server.

Cons

Technical

Lots of bandwidth on LL's part. Possible additional latency because when the first time an image is requested, LL will have to pull a copy of the requested assets from the web server.

Difficulty in determining which textures are dynamic and cannot be cached, leaves the potential for a dynamic image creating an unlimited number of cached copies on the LL asset server.

Puts more load on the asset server as it has to fetch and cache foreign data, adds new code paths with more potential security risks to the most critical service in Second Life.

Privacy

None known.

LL Hosted proxy network

LL hosting proxies for our clients to connect with. Possibly a dupe of LL Downloading URL

Pros

Technical

Privacy

Cons

Has a negative benefit-cost equation for LL, keep dreaming

Technical

Privacy

P2p-based

A Bittorrent-like p2p downloading system.

Pros

Technical

Privacy

Cons

Technical

The overhead in time and bandwidth of having to find a peer hosting every requested asset would make this infeasible for a real-time metaverse like Second Life

Privacy

This doesn't address any of the privacy concerns at all. Bittorrent-like protocols expose IP addresses of people sharing and requesting textures so it would still be possible to tie sensors in-world to requests for unique textures also at that location. Maybe the person proposing this was thinking of a multiple hop network like Tor or a darknet protocol like Freenet?

Anonymous P2p-based proxy

A Tor-like p2p downloading system.

Pros

Technical

Privacy

Cons

Technical

Ever tried to use Tor or Freenet?

Privacy