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* [12:08] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  VWR-7509[c
* [12:08] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7509
* [12:09] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  wow
* [12:09] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  lotta noise in this one
* [12:09] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  This was fixed according to Prospero's comment might just need to ping Randy who re-opened it
* [12:09] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  nods
* [12:09] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8537 was marked as duplicate, but reopened. Should it be re-resolved?
* [12:10] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  let's ask randy to provide us with his objects so we can have someone in QA retest and validate
* [12:10] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok
* [12:11] [[User:Ethan Schuman|Ethan Schuman]]:  I could put something together if you'd like to test right now.
* [12:11] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  TriJin Bade also offers to be contacted...
* [12:11] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  thanks ethan
* [12:11] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  but i'd prefer to just triage and move on
* [12:11] [[User:Ethan Schuman|Ethan Schuman]]:  Alright.
* [12:11] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  grins at ethan
* [12:11] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I appreciate your patience
* [12:11] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Actually looking at teh history TriJin re-openned it
* [12:11] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  I'd re-resolve VWR-8537
* [12:12] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  is the oen its duplicate of reopened?
* [12:12] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  yes
* [12:12] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  randy re-opened teh dupe
* [12:12] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  ok
* [12:13] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I'm taking care of teh dup
* [12:13] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  is confused
* [12:13] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  lol
* [12:13] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  is now too lol
* [12:13] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  votes to move on
* [12:13] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  seconds
* [12:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Senator from Battery?
* [12:14] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  what are we doing with 8717 - reresolving?
* [12:14] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  refuses to be a politician
* [12:14] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  we haven't got to 8717 yet aric
* [12:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  lols
* [12:14] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  VWR-8717[c
* [12:15] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8717
* [12:15] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  you mean all that dance and stuff was around7509?
* [12:15] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  holey moley
* [12:15] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  yes
* [12:15] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  lol
* [12:15] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  ok
* [12:15] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  lets move on
* [12:15] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  '@Sean
* Thanks for the Tipp. I did exactly this and it's working good for now :-)'
* [12:16] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  reads the New Issues in the comment
* [12:16] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]:  "*EDIT #2*
* ..and while I was typing this, SL now finally crashed the first time after aprox. 3 1/2 hours. Well, that's some "normal" state."
* [12:16] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  but i think there's some useful stuff in here for zen to read
* [12:16] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I'd like to take this in with an eye toward zen and kona knowing about the asus drivers
* [12:17] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok
* [12:18] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8337
* [12:18] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  # VWR-8337[c
* [12:19] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Alexa asked Skidz for more info he hasn'r responded yet
* [12:19] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  thanks for all the updates and triaging on this Ellla
* [12:20] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  But Ellla observed that it could be a dupe of the last one we just talked about
* [12:20] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  WB Ellla
* [12:20] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Sounds like a dupe of the New Issues in the last one...
* [12:20] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  hmm so possibly zonealarm wasnt the sole issue on this if im reading ellla correctly?
* [12:21] [[User:Ellla McMahon|Ellla McMahon]]:  sorry crashed ... 8337 is going to end up a duplicate of 8717 because people will upgrade their catalyst
* [12:21] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  so dup of 8717?
* [12:21] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  i would hold off on that
* [12:21] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  till we see if theres a response with the logs
* [12:21] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I really feel good about Haizo's comments
* [12:21] [[User:Ellla McMahon|Ellla McMahon]]:  not yet .. but TAI are obviously aware of slow frame times .. they have addressed the issue in their release notes for 8.8
* [12:21] [[User:Ellla McMahon|Ellla McMahon]]:  *ATI
* [12:22] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  such positive energy and feedback
* [12:22] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  8717 is new
* [12:22] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  last weds.
* [12:23] [[User:Ellla McMahon|Ellla McMahon]]:  yes the 8.8 was released on 20th
* [12:23] [[User:IM: Bridie|IM: Bridie]]:  Linden: i see now
* [12:23] [[User:IM: Bridie|IM: Bridie]]:  Linden: nice
* [12:23] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  ild still wait before linking them defiantely as a dupe. to me there seems a good chance mroe then one thing is in play
* [12:24] [[User:IM: Bridie|IM: Bridie]]:  Linden: not to be dickish
* [12:24] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  but thats jsut a personal feeling looking at the comments
* [12:24] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I like the amount of information in 8337 and I really appreciate that skidz is engaged
* [12:24] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  it's worth calling out the info here to zen and steve and maybe even don
* [12:25] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I will Aric
* [12:25] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I'll flag this and the other one for them
* [12:26] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  next one?
* [12:26] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  VWR-5949[c
* [12:26] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5949
* [12:27] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  thanks alexa
* [12:27] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Still only one contribution
* [12:27] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  yup
* [12:27] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I'll update the last traiged date and see if we get any others
* [12:27] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  Well, I can downgrade my "normal" client back to 19.0 and then add
* [12:27] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  ok
* [12:28] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  but i honestly think this is a dupe of others we've triaged
* [12:28] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  patch pool!
* [12:28] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  VWR-2710[c
* [12:28] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2710
* [12:28] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  Cummere - it is, but extra logs is goodness
* [12:29] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I think that Danica's comments say it all for 2710
* [12:29] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Looks like we need a little more goodness on this patch...
* [12:29] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I need to ask if the attachment if updated
* [12:29] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  nods at bridie
* [12:29] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  yup
* [12:30] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  will do
* [12:30] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  it'd be cool to have a turkish viewer
* [12:30] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  VWR-8761[c
* [12:30] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  And a Swedish Chef one too...
* [12:30] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8761
* [12:30] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  glances at Bridie linden
* [12:31] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  grins
* [12:31] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  wow - i logged this < 24 hrs ago
* [12:31] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  nudges his pal
* [12:31] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  oh then let's skip it
* [12:31] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  it hasn't baked long enough
* [12:31] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  You have friends in high places :)
* [12:31] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  it's been imported
* [12:31] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  lol
* [12:31] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  or you have high friends in places
* [12:31] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  which is it?
* [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  it has?
* [12:32] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  yes
* [12:32] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  now I'm confused
* [12:32] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  by periapse
* [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I don't see a lJira number
* [12:32] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  The one you skipped has been imported by Peri already
* [12:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  8761 doesn't look imported
* [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  oh ya
* [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  refresh your list
* [12:32] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I was lookinga t 2908
* [12:32] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  Gellan this used to work in 1.19.1 ?
* [12:32] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8761
* [12:32] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  don't know, but can check....
* [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  this is a plot isn't it
* [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  you're all in on it
* [12:33] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  hahahaha
* [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  just trying to make me paranoid and nervous huh?
* [12:33] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  poor aric...
* [12:33] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  we are teh meanz
* [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  well, i'm not going to fall for it
* [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I know you're try ing to make me crazy
* [12:33] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  My alt is on 1.18.5.3, it is broken in that version even
* [12:33] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  it's a short drive...
* [12:33] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  nods
* [12:33] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  luaghs
* [12:34] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  ty harleen. probably been broken for ages
* [12:34] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  does quick search for dupe
* [12:35] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  opps, might have just been lag, works in 1.18.5.3
* [12:36] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  okays is confused which one we on?
* [12:36] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  8761
* [12:37] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  the bug repros for me on 1.19.1.4
* [12:37] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  repos for me on .20(15) and 1.21
* [12:37] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  kk, just finding issues w/attached objects
* [12:38] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  this isn't attached
* [12:38] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  import for triage?
* [12:38] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok
* [12:38] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  votes for import, but probably server?
* [12:38] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  no one probably picked up this was a bug
* [12:38] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  VWR-8283[c
* [12:38] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8283
* [12:38] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  vote for import um honestly not sure about the server or viewer
* [12:39] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  If it were server it would have failed in 1.18.5.3, though
* [12:39] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I can't tell if the problem is that it's a delay in writing to the server or actually a server bug
* [12:39] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  pass to sim triage and let them wrangle it
* [12:39] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  they DO get paid for something
* [12:39] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  :-)
* [12:39] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  hmm harleen has a point
* [12:39] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  ok :)
* [12:40] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  yes, but it might be lag in writing status to server or in getting the update on state delivered back from server
* [12:40] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  actually Harleen had three points and a comma :p
* [12:40] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  :P Squirrel
* [12:40] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  lol
* [12:40] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  next one import though not sure if its a bug . ild say import as feature request
* [12:41] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I would change to a FR
* [12:41] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  nods
* [12:41] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  agreed
* [12:42] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  but not sure about importing - I'd leave and see if we get more votes?
* [12:42] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  +1
* [12:42] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  SVC-2049[c
* [12:42] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  ill vote for it if it will get it improted
* [12:43] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]:  OH god I hate that
* [12:43] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2049
* [12:43] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  this has to be a dup
* [12:43] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  um.... i have a personal coment to make on this one though i think it should be private.
* [12:43] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  pardon my ignorance but who here would be ranking linden?
* [12:43] [[User:Squirrel's Fortune|Squirrel's Fortune]]:  Cookie: Here's some wisdom for you:
* [12:43] [[User:Squirrel's Fortune|Squirrel's Fortune]]:  Cookie: Matthew: Having a TV in the kitchen is a bad idea. Karen: Know what's worse? Having a kitchen in the bedroom.
* [12:44] [[User:Squirrel Wood|Squirrel Wood]]:  knows this fits in here somehow...
* [12:44] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  looks around?
* [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  ranking linden?
* [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  what do you mean?
* [12:45] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]:  Whos' the Daddy?
* [12:45] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I know this is an issue as I have it each time I'm in SL
* [12:45] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  "who's the boss?"
* [12:45] [[User:Cummere Mayo|Cummere Mayo]]:  aric ill jsut im you then if i may?
* [12:45] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  and I know it happens with non phantom prims
* [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  ok cummere
* [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  I'll be rank
* [12:45] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  LOL
* [12:45] [[User:Aric Linden|Aric Linden]]:  :-)
* [12:45] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  yes, alexa - kelly's "This bug was specifically (based on the description) for phantom objects" worries me
* [12:46] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Then: kelly linden - 20/Aug/08 12:24 PM
* Thanks Wayfinder. Based on what has been said and a quick test I just did with some phantom objects, I'm going to suggest that this bug be re-closed and either one of the other issues you mentioned be re-opened or a new issue be created.
* [12:46] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  I get this in my workshop when building
* [12:46] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  it's definitely still a problem, for non-phantom objects
* [12:46] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  yup
* [12:47] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  now I'm pretty sure we have some version of the yo-yo bug inhouse
* [12:47] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  and I can search
* [12:47] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  is looking
* [12:47] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  let's move on, if that's ok with all -- we can link up later or import as necessary
* [12:48] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8516
* [12:50] [[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]]:  Perhaps it should scale with the interface size
* [12:50] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  it wraps
* [12:50] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  but much too early
* [12:50] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Delete or fix your settings file to fix that
* [12:50] [[User:Gellan Glenelg|Gellan Glenelg]]:  ok
* [12:50] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  glod sart for Harleen''s work arounds!
* [12:51] [[User:Alexa Linden|Alexa Linden]]:  Woot!
* [12:51] [[User:Harleen Gretzky|Harleen Gretzky]]:  Caused by Restore Down the window bug, which is another JIRA
* [12:52] [[User:Bridie Linden|Bridie Linden]]:  I would vote for not importing VWR-8516

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