Bug triage/2008-08-25/Transcript

• [12:08] Alexa Linden: VWR-7509[c
• [12:08] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7509
• [12:09] Aric Linden: wow
• [12:09] Aric Linden: lotta noise in this one
• [12:09] Harleen Gretzky: This was fixed according to Prospero's comment might just need to ping Randy who re-opened it
• [12:09] Bridie Linden: nods
• [12:09] Gellan Glenelg: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8537 was marked as duplicate, but reopened. Should it be re-resolved?
• [12:10] Aric Linden: let's ask randy to provide us with his objects so we can have someone in QA retest and validate
• [12:10] Alexa Linden: ok
• [12:11] Ethan Schuman: I could put something together if you'd like to test right now.
• [12:11] Bridie Linden: TriJin Bade also offers to be contacted...
• [12:11] Aric Linden: thanks ethan
• [12:11] Aric Linden: but i'd prefer to just triage and move on
• [12:11] Ethan Schuman: Alright.
• [12:11] Aric Linden: grins at ethan
• [12:11] Aric Linden: I appreciate your patience
• [12:11] Harleen Gretzky: Actually looking at teh history TriJin re-openned it
• [12:11] Bridie Linden: I'd re-resolve VWR-8537
• [12:12] Cummere Mayo: is the oen its duplicate of reopened?
• [12:12] Gellan Glenelg: yes
• [12:12] Harleen Gretzky: randy re-opened teh dupe
• [12:12] Cummere Mayo: ok
• [12:13] Alexa Linden: I'm taking care of teh dup
• [12:13] Aric Linden: is confused
• [12:13] Harleen Gretzky: lol
• [12:13] Cummere Mayo: is now too lol
• [12:13] Bridie Linden: votes to move on
• [12:13] Harleen Gretzky: seconds
• [12:14] Bridie Linden: Senator from Battery?
• [12:14] Aric Linden: what are we doing with 8717 - reresolving?
• [12:14] Aric Linden: refuses to be a politician
• [12:14] Gellan Glenelg: we haven't got to 8717 yet aric
• [12:14] Bridie Linden: lols
• [12:14] Bridie Linden: VWR-8717[c
• [12:15] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8717
• [12:15] Aric Linden: you mean all that dance and stuff was around7509?
• [12:15] Aric Linden: holey moley
• [12:15] Alexa Linden: yes
• [12:15] Alexa Linden: lol
• [12:15] Aric Linden: ok
• [12:15] Aric Linden: lets move on
• [12:15] Bridie Linden: '@Sean
• Thanks for the Tipp. I did exactly this and it's working good for now :-)'
• [12:16] Bridie Linden: reads the New Issues in the comment
• [12:16] Nexii Malthus: "*EDIT #2*
• ..and while I was typing this, SL now finally crashed the first time after aprox. 3 1/2 hours. Well, that's some "normal" state."
• [12:16] Aric Linden: but i think there's some useful stuff in here for zen to read
• [12:16] Aric Linden: I'd like to take this in with an eye toward zen and kona knowing about the asus drivers
• [12:17] Alexa Linden: ok
• [12:18] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8337
• [12:18] Alexa Linden: # VWR-8337[c
• [12:19] Harleen Gretzky: Alexa asked Skidz for more info he hasn'r responded yet
• [12:19] Alexa Linden: thanks for all the updates and triaging on this Ellla
• [12:20] Harleen Gretzky: But Ellla observed that it could be a dupe of the last one we just talked about
• [12:20] Alexa Linden: WB Ellla
• [12:20] Bridie Linden: Sounds like a dupe of the New Issues in the last one...
• [12:20] Cummere Mayo: hmm so possibly zonealarm wasnt the sole issue on this if im reading ellla correctly?
• [12:21] Ellla McMahon: sorry crashed ... 8337 is going to end up a duplicate of 8717 because people will upgrade their catalyst
• [12:21] Alexa Linden: so dup of 8717?
• [12:21] Cummere Mayo: i would hold off on that
• [12:21] Cummere Mayo: till we see if theres a response with the logs
• [12:21] Aric Linden: I really feel good about Haizo's comments
• [12:21] Ellla McMahon: not yet .. but TAI are obviously aware of slow frame times .. they have addressed the issue in their release notes for 8.8
• [12:21] Ellla McMahon: *ATI
• [12:22] Aric Linden: such positive energy and feedback
• [12:22] Alexa Linden: 8717 is new
• [12:22] Alexa Linden: last weds.
• [12:23] Ellla McMahon: yes the 8.8 was released on 20th
• [12:23] IM: Bridie: Linden: i see now
• [12:23] IM: Bridie: Linden: nice
• [12:23] Cummere Mayo: ild still wait before linking them defiantely as a dupe. to me there seems a good chance mroe then one thing is in play
• [12:24] IM: Bridie: Linden: not to be dickish
• [12:24] Cummere Mayo: but thats jsut a personal feeling looking at the comments
• [12:24] Aric Linden: I like the amount of information in 8337 and I really appreciate that skidz is engaged
• [12:24] Aric Linden: it's worth calling out the info here to zen and steve and maybe even don
• [12:25] Alexa Linden: I will Aric
• [12:25] Alexa Linden: I'll flag this and the other one for them
• [12:26] Alexa Linden: next one?
• [12:26] Alexa Linden: VWR-5949[c
• [12:26] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5949
• [12:27] Aric Linden: thanks alexa
• [12:27] Harleen Gretzky: Still only one contribution
• [12:27] Alexa Linden: yup
• [12:27] Alexa Linden: I'll update the last traiged date and see if we get any others
• [12:27] Cummere Mayo: Well, I can downgrade my "normal" client back to 19.0 and then add
• [12:27] Aric Linden: ok
• [12:28] Cummere Mayo: but i honestly think this is a dupe of others we've triaged
• [12:28] Alexa Linden: patch pool!
• [12:28] Alexa Linden: VWR-2710[c
• [12:28] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2710
• [12:28] Aric Linden: Cummere - it is, but extra logs is goodness
• [12:29] Aric Linden: I think that Danica's comments say it all for 2710
• [12:29] Bridie Linden: Looks like we need a little more goodness on this patch...
• [12:29] Alexa Linden: I need to ask if the attachment if updated
• [12:29] Aric Linden: nods at bridie
• [12:29] Alexa Linden: yup
• [12:30] Alexa Linden: will do
• [12:30] Aric Linden: it'd be cool to have a turkish viewer
• [12:30] Alexa Linden: VWR-8761[c
• [12:30] Bridie Linden: And a Swedish Chef one too...
• [12:30] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8761
• [12:30] Aric Linden: glances at Bridie linden
• [12:31] Bridie Linden: grins
• [12:31] Gellan Glenelg: wow - i logged this < 24 hrs ago
• [12:31] Aric Linden: nudges his pal
• [12:31] Alexa Linden: oh then let's skip it
• [12:31] Alexa Linden: it hasn't baked long enough
• [12:31] Harleen Gretzky: You have friends in high places :)
• [12:31] Aric Linden: it's been imported
• [12:31] Alexa Linden: lol
• [12:31] Aric Linden: or you have high friends in places
• [12:31] Aric Linden: which is it?
• [12:32] Alexa Linden: it has?
• [12:32] Aric Linden: yes
• [12:32] Gellan Glenelg: now I'm confused
• [12:32] Aric Linden: by periapse
• [12:32] Alexa Linden: I don't see a lJira number
• [12:32] Harleen Gretzky: The one you skipped has been imported by Peri already
• [12:32] Bridie Linden: 8761 doesn't look imported
• [12:32] Alexa Linden: oh ya
• [12:32] Alexa Linden: refresh your list
• [12:32] Aric Linden: I was lookinga t 2908
• [12:32] Bridie Linden: Gellan this used to work in 1.19.1 ?
• [12:32] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8761
• [12:32] Gellan Glenelg: don't know, but can check....
• [12:33] Aric Linden: this is a plot isn't it
• [12:33] Aric Linden: you're all in on it
• [12:33] Alexa Linden: hahahaha
• [12:33] Aric Linden: just trying to make me paranoid and nervous huh?
• [12:33] Bridie Linden: poor aric...
• [12:33] Alexa Linden: we are teh meanz
• [12:33] Aric Linden: well, i'm not going to fall for it
• [12:33] Aric Linden: I know you're try ing to make me crazy
• [12:33] Harleen Gretzky: My alt is on 1.18.5.3, it is broken in that version even
• [12:33] Bridie Linden: it's a short drive...
• [12:33] Aric Linden: nods
• [12:33] Alexa Linden: luaghs
• [12:34] Gellan Glenelg: ty harleen. probably been broken for ages
• [12:34] Bridie Linden: does quick search for dupe
• [12:35] Harleen Gretzky: opps, might have just been lag, works in 1.18.5.3
• [12:36] Cummere Mayo: okays is confused which one we on?
• [12:36] Harleen Gretzky: 8761
• [12:37] Gellan Glenelg: the bug repros for me on 1.19.1.4
• [12:37] Cummere Mayo: repos for me on .20(15) and 1.21
• [12:37] Bridie Linden: kk, just finding issues w/attached objects
• [12:38] Gellan Glenelg: this isn't attached
• [12:38] Aric Linden: import for triage?
• [12:38] Alexa Linden: ok
• [12:38] Bridie Linden: votes for import, but probably server?
• [12:38] Cummere Mayo: no one probably picked up this was a bug
• [12:38] Alexa Linden: VWR-8283[c
• [12:38] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8283
• [12:38] Cummere Mayo: vote for import um honestly not sure about the server or viewer
• [12:39] Harleen Gretzky: If it were server it would have failed in 1.18.5.3, though
• [12:39] Aric Linden: I can't tell if the problem is that it's a delay in writing to the server or actually a server bug
• [12:39] Aric Linden: pass to sim triage and let them wrangle it
• [12:39] Aric Linden: they DO get paid for something
• [12:39] Aric Linden:  :-)
• [12:39] Cummere Mayo: hmm harleen has a point
• [12:39] Alexa Linden: ok :)
• [12:40] Aric Linden: yes, but it might be lag in writing status to server or in getting the update on state delivered back from server
• [12:40] Squirrel Wood: actually Harleen had three points and a comma :p
• [12:40] Aric Linden: :P Squirrel
• [12:40] Cummere Mayo: lol
• [12:40] Cummere Mayo: next one import though not sure if its a bug . ild say import as feature request
• [12:41] Alexa Linden: I would change to a FR
• [12:41] Bridie Linden: nods
• [12:41] Aric Linden: agreed
• [12:42] Alexa Linden: but not sure about importing - I'd leave and see if we get more votes?
• [12:42] Bridie Linden: +1
• [12:42] Alexa Linden: SVC-2049[c
• [12:42] Cummere Mayo: ill vote for it if it will get it improted
• [12:43] Nexii Malthus: OH god I hate that
• [12:43] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2049
• [12:43] Alexa Linden: this has to be a dup
• [12:43] Cummere Mayo: um.... i have a personal coment to make on this one though i think it should be private.
• [12:43] Cummere Mayo: pardon my ignorance but who here would be ranking linden?
• [12:43] Squirrel's Fortune: Cookie: Here's some wisdom for you:
• [12:43] Squirrel's Fortune: Cookie: Matthew: Having a TV in the kitchen is a bad idea. Karen: Know what's worse? Having a kitchen in the bedroom.
• [12:44] Squirrel Wood: knows this fits in here somehow...
• [12:44] Cummere Mayo: looks around?
• [12:45] Aric Linden: ranking linden?
• [12:45] Aric Linden: what do you mean?
• [12:45] Nexii Malthus: Whos' the Daddy?
• [12:45] Alexa Linden: I know this is an issue as I have it each time I'm in SL
• [12:45] Gellan Glenelg: "who's the boss?"
• [12:45] Cummere Mayo: aric ill jsut im you then if i may?
• [12:45] Alexa Linden: and I know it happens with non phantom prims
• [12:45] Aric Linden: ok cummere
• [12:45] Aric Linden: I'll be rank
• [12:45] Alexa Linden: LOL
• [12:45] Aric Linden:  :-)
• [12:45] Gellan Glenelg: yes, alexa - kelly's "This bug was specifically (based on the description) for phantom objects" worries me
• [12:46] Harleen Gretzky: Then: kelly linden - 20/Aug/08 12:24 PM
• Thanks Wayfinder. Based on what has been said and a quick test I just did with some phantom objects, I'm going to suggest that this bug be re-closed and either one of the other issues you mentioned be re-opened or a new issue be created.
• [12:46] Alexa Linden: I get this in my workshop when building
• [12:46] Gellan Glenelg: it's definitely still a problem, for non-phantom objects
• [12:46] Alexa Linden: yup
• [12:47] Alexa Linden: now I'm pretty sure we have some version of the yo-yo bug inhouse
• [12:47] Alexa Linden: and I can search
• [12:47] Bridie Linden: is looking
• [12:47] Bridie Linden: let's move on, if that's ok with all -- we can link up later or import as necessary
• [12:48] Alexa Linden: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8516
• [12:50] Nexii Malthus: Perhaps it should scale with the interface size
• [12:50] Gellan Glenelg: it wraps
• [12:50] Gellan Glenelg: but much too early
• [12:50] Harleen Gretzky: Delete or fix your settings file to fix that
• [12:50] Gellan Glenelg: ok
• [12:50] Bridie Linden: glod sart for Harleens work arounds!
• [12:51] Alexa Linden: Woot!
• [12:51] Harleen Gretzky: Caused by Restore Down the window bug, which is another JIRA
• [12:52] Bridie Linden: I would vote for not importing VWR-8516