User:Q Linden/Office Hours/2007-09-24

Transcript of Q Office Hours on Monday, 24Sep07, 7:30 AM PST

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Time	Speaker	Remarks
[7:45]	Q Linden	Hey, Jansen
[7:46]	Jansen Miles	Hiya. Hmm. First office hours?
[7:46]	Jansen Miles	Looks like you need to build a following. :)
[7:46]	Q Linden	Yup...but it wasn't well-announced. I failed to complete the wiki page properly ,and just figured it out this morning.
[7:46]	Q Linden	No biggie...I'll get it right next time. :-)
[7:47]	Q Linden	Did you just trip across it, or were you looking for office hrs?
[7:48]	Jansen Miles	No, I was checking office hours on the Wiki. I got up unusually early this morning and was wondering if any office hours coincided.
[7:48]	Q Linden	cool. anything in particular on your mind?
[7:48]	Jansen Miles	Nope. But I have some advice. You need to set out some chairs, or let us place our own. :)
[7:49]	Q Linden	see those? Those were supposed to be my chairs for the day.
[7:49]	Q Linden	I popped 'em up there this morning. :-)
[7:49]	Jansen Miles	Ah, okay. I didn't realize.
[7:50]	Q Linden	Or since there are so few people, we can go over to my gazebo
[7:50]	Jansen Miles	Maybe five or six chairs close to the campfire would seem more inviting.
[7:50]	Jansen Miles	So, you're a new Linden, but how long have you been on SL?
[7:50]	Basic Chair	Right click me and choose 'Sit Here' to sit down
[7:51]	Q Linden	just 2 months!
[7:51]	Jansen Miles	Oh wow.
[7:51]	Q Linden	So I'm really a n00b
[7:51]	Jansen Miles	You're even newer than me.
[7:52]	Q Linden	What attracted you to SL in the first place?
[7:53]	Jansen Miles	Well, I read Snowcrash in the 90s.
[7:53]	Q Linden	Heh. As did half this world, I think.
[7:53]	Q Linden	Did you have experience with other online communities?
[7:53]	Jansen Miles	And I'd heard about SL for a couple of years. It was on my list of things to check out and I finally got around to it.
[7:53]	Jansen Miles	No. Not really. I played MUDs in the 90s
[7:54]	Q Linden	Do you consider yourself a gamer?
[7:54]	Jansen Miles	And beta tested and played Asheron's Call 2.
[7:54]	Q Linden	ah, cool
[7:54]	Jansen Miles	I would say yes, but I'm definitely in the camp of "SL is not a game."
[7:54]	Q Linden	me too...on both counts
[7:54]	Q Linden	but I like to know what people have for background experience
[7:54]	Q Linden	as a reference
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[7:56]	Q Linden	Do you build stuff in SL?
[7:57]	Jansen Miles	I do.
[7:57]	Q Linden	Code too?
[7:57]	Jansen Miles	Yep.
[7:57]	Q Linden	I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts -- what works well, what doesn't.
[7:58]	Jansen Miles	I have definite opinions although at this early hour (I'm PST remember), I don't know if I can say much that's intelligible.
[7:58]	Q Linden	:-)
[7:58]	Jansen Miles	I'm putting together a list of UI enhancements I think would be good.
[7:58]	Q Linden	We haven't invented virtual caffeine yet.
[7:59]	Jansen Miles	Mostly relating to the build tools.
[7:59]	Jansen Miles	Building is very primitive in SL. Pun not intentional.
[8:00]	Q Linden	Heh...yeah. A lot of my recent history has been spent making 3D construction tools, including tools for kids. So I care a lot about this area.
[8:00]	Q Linden	It's one place I hope to spend some of my development energy at Linden.
[8:00]	Jansen Miles	And the build editing tools are impressive as they're expressed in-world, but leave much to be desired when compared to what a professional content developer might expect from his/her tools.
[8:01]	Q Linden	Yeah
[8:01]	Q Linden	Do you have particular high points of pain?
[8:01]	Jansen Miles	Some of the problems are intractable at the moment. Such as the parent-child relationships of linked sets. I.e. one root only.
[8:01]	Q Linden	(when you say you're putting together a list, how do you plan to share that list?)
[8:02]	Jansen Miles	Through the JIRA.
[8:02]	Q Linden	excellent
[8:02]	Q Linden	do you know about the SL Dev mailing list for open source discussions?
[8:03]	Jansen Miles	...that would require major re-working of the SL object system. To smaller issues like the lack of ability to change point of rotation when rotating an object or linked set.
[8:03]	Q Linden	Yup, that's a problem I encountered this morning
[8:03]	Jansen Miles	I'm vaguely aware of SL Dev group activity, but I'm not directly involved.
[8:04]	Jansen Miles	I've attended one or two open source office hours.
[8:04]	Q Linden	Who else's have you been to?
[8:05]	Jansen Miles	And I'm familiar with Dale Glass' work because I see him at half the office hours I attend.
[8:05]	Q Linden	yup, he's been pretty involved, at least I've seen him around quite a bit
[8:06]	Jansen Miles	Rob, Lindie, Benjamin bug triages. Qarl. Zero. Torley. Blue.
[8:06]	Q Linden	oh, by the way...since this has ended up being a private session, is it OK with you if I post the transcript?
[8:07]	Jansen Miles	And I'm actually a bit surprised not to see Wyn Galbraith here. She seems to usually hit all the office hours I attend, although that may have something to do with you posting the hours late.
[8:07]	Jansen Miles	If you like.
[8:08]	Q Linden	I'd just like to establish a tradition of being open about everything that happens in my office hours
[8:09]	Q Linden	There were a couple of people who said they'd come if I held office hours, but I think that the late notice was a problem.
[8:09]	Jansen Miles	More than likely that was it.
[8:10]	Jansen Miles	So, what, in fact, is your role at LL? Boston. You were part of the Windlight team that came over?
[8:11]	Q Linden	No, actually. I was the first non-Windlight dev hired in Boston. I'm a game developer who became interested in SL. I'm just finishing up my "training" phase and looking around for what I should be spending time on now. User content creation tools is one possible area, as is architecture.
[8:12]	Q Linden	architecture meaning the long-term system design
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[8:16]	Jansen Miles	C++ and OpenGL?
[8:16]	Q Linden	My skillz? That and Python, Java if you make me.
[8:17]	Q Linden	That doesn't parse unambiguously -- I love python, not so much Java
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