Bug triage/2008-06-04/Transcript
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Transcript of Bridie Linden's office hours:
| ??[15:00] Torley Linden: &?R?I?E?N?D?L?Y? G?R?E?E?T?I?N?G?S? ! | ||
| [15:00] Torley Linden: :D | ||
| [15:00] Potatobug Tester is Offline | ||
| [15:00] Colton Linden: what a pleasant font :) | ||
| [15:00] Torley Linden: hahaah | ||
| [15:00] Sheet Spotter: Allo, allo | ||
| [15:00] Torley Linden: i love doing fullwidth unicode | ||
| [15:00] Torley Linden: cracks me up every time | ||
| [15:01] Potatobug Tester is Online | ||
| [15:01] Periapse Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:01] Samuel Linden is Online | ||
| [15:01] You: back! | ||
| [15:01] Torley Linden: WB bridie! | ||
| [15:01] Saijanai Kuhn: Hey Torley | ||
| [15:01] You: howdy howdy howdy! | ||
| [15:01] Torley Linden: yo Yo YO | ||
| [15:01] Saijanai Kuhn: Hey Bridie | ||
| [15:01] Colton Linden: wb Bridie | ||
| [15:01] You: How's everyone! | ||
| [15:01] Bri Gufler: Hi everyone | ||
| [15:02] You: Hey Saijanai havne't seen ya for a while! | ||
| [15:02] Saijanai Kuhn: been running around in circles | ||
| [15:02] Don Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:02] Saijanai Kuhn is good at that | ||
| [15:02] You: hee | ||
| [15:02] Dan Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:03] You: We | ||
| [15:03] Harleen Gretzky: Hi Bridie, Torley, Colton and Nya | ||
| [15:03] You: We're down an Alexa today :( | ||
| [15:03] Torley Linden: awwe | ||
| [15:03] You: Let me ping Aric real quick... | ||
| [15:03] Nya Linden: did I get her sick? | ||
| [15:03] Colton Linden: Hi Harleen | ||
| [15:03] Nya Linden: and.. Hi all! | ||
| [15:03] You: Not sure Nya | ||
| [15:04] Bambers Linden: afternoon | ||
| [15:04] Robin Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:04] You: Bambers aren't you supposed to be smoke testing??? | ||
| [15:04] Colton Linden: heya Bambers | ||
| [15:04] Bridie Linden grins | ||
| [15:04] You: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda | ||
| [15:04] Bambers Linden: I'm just observing - I won't be much help today bridie | ||
| [15:04] Ryan Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:04] Bambers Linden: hey colton :) | ||
| [15:05] You: Aric is on his way... | ||
| [15:05] Bambers Linden says this as if he's helpful at other triage meetings... | ||
| [15:05] Bridie Linden laughs | ||
| [15:05] Aric Linden is Online | ||
| [15:05] You: So in case folks didn't notice... | ||
| [15:05] You: we didn't get an RC out last week... | ||
| [15:05] Bao Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:05] Pastrami Linden is Online | ||
| [15:05] Bridie Linden looks @ Bambers | ||
| [15:06] You: But are working on RC9 for this week! | ||
| [15:06] norritt Xi: Hi everyone! | ||
| [15:06] Second Life: Your object 'Object' has been returned to your inventory lost and found folder by Rose Linden from parcel at LindenWorld B 233.757, 226.705 due to parcel owner return. | ||
| [15:06] Tuckaxe Parx: nice place | ||
| [15:06] You: And in other exciting news, a rolling restart is planned for Thurs/Fri of this week | ||
| [15:06] You: http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/06/04/preview-grid-updated-production-deploy-rolling-restart-plans/ | ||
| [15:07] You: And if that's not enough good news ... | ||
| [15:07] You: Be sure to check out this post about the Preview Grid | ||
| [15:07] You: http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/05/25/reintroducing-the-preview-grid-aditi/ | ||
| [15:07] Brad Linden is Online | ||
| [15:07] You: SErver 1.22 is already on the Preview Grid if you wanna help test :) | ||
| [15:07] Bambers Linden: hi Aric | ||
| [15:07] Aric Linden: heya bambers | ||
| [15:07] You: Welcome Pastrami + Aric Lindens! | ||
| [15:07] Matthew Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:08] Saijanai Kuhn: Hey Aric, Hey Bam,bers, Hey Pastrami | ||
| [15:08] You: Back to our regularly scheduled program... | ||
| [15:08] You: Today's agenda | ||
| [15:08] You: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bug_triage/Wednesday_Agenda | ||
| [15:08] You: First up: | ||
| [15:08] You: VWR-7526[c] - Votes: 3 - High-rez snapshots have black lines in grid pattern | ||
| [15:08] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7526 | ||
| [15:08] You: I couldn't repro on my mac | ||
| [15:09] You: but it was reported on XP w/NVidia | ||
| [15:09] Brad Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:09] Torley Linden: Morris told me he'd JIRAfy this... i haven't seen it commonly | ||
| [15:09] Gellan Glenelg: possibly related to VWR-7489, VWR-7577 ? (both black lines) | ||
| [15:09] Bri Gufler: I tried it on XP with nvidia 8800 GTX and 8800 GT on two machines and couldn't repro either | ||
| [15:09] Gellan Glenelg: no, I can't repro | ||
| [15:09] You: hmm, thx Bri + Gellan | ||
| [15:09] Gellan Glenelg: i'm on XP, nvidia | ||
| [15:09] Bri Gufler: This is with XP SP3 and the nvidia drivers from May 18th (forgot version) | ||
| [15:10] You: I'll resolve as such then... | ||
| [15:10] Aric Linden: Hi Ellla | ||
| [15:10] Aric Linden: bridie? No Alexa today? | ||
| [15:10] Bri Gufler: Maybe its due to older graphics drivers or something? | ||
| [15:10] You: No Alexa today Aric | ||
| [15:10] You: Feel free to add comments/suggestions Bri, ty | ||
| [15:10] You: Next up | ||
| [15:10] Sheet Spotter: Is specifically states *high res* snapshots. His are really high res. | ||
| [15:10] You: VWR-6440[c] - Votes: 1 - Distance to target not visible at some angles | ||
| [15:10] Ellla McMahon: Hi Aric ... everyone :) | ||
| [15:11] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6440 | ||
| [15:11] Bri Gufler: Hey Ellla | ||
| [15:11] Bambers Linden: hi Ella | ||
| [15:11] You: Hi Ellla | ||
| [15:11] Phoenix Linden is Online | ||
| [15:11] Gellan Glenelg: I can repro this by using map to create a beacon at levenhall 128,0,21 | ||
| [15:11] Bridie Linden looks @ Pastrami | ||
| [15:11] You: "Turning off Basic Shaders fixes the problem. " | ||
| [15:12] Pastrami Linden: yeah, I'm reading up on it | ||
| [15:12] Gellan Glenelg: then move camera far away... lower part of text gets ciut off | ||
| [15:12] Pastrami Linden: yeah this is one for Runitai or BigPapi | ||
| [15:12] You: Okey doke, will import | ||
| [15:12] Torley Linden: :) | ||
| [15:12] You: Next up... | ||
| [15:13] You: # VWR-6483[c] - Votes: 1 - Changing Advanced->Rendering->Info Displays blanks all HUD llSetText. - Buckaroo Mu | ||
| [15:13] Pastrami Linden: yeah this one is def. for tuniati | ||
| [15:13] Pastrami Linden: runitai | ||
| [15:13] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6483 | ||
| [15:13] You: kk | ||
| [15:13] Gellan Glenelg: particularyly annoying for tiny empires players! | ||
| [15:13] Bri Gufler: I can reproduce this one on both XP and OS X viewers | ||
| [15:13] Gellan Glenelg: and yes, it repros | ||
| [15:13] You: Got it | ||
| [15:13] You: Next up | ||
| [15:13] You: VWR-6561[c] - Votes: 1 - Wireless Mighty Mouse stops responding and freezes BlueTooth Keyboard too until turned off and on | ||
| [15:13] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6561 | ||
| [15:14] Aric Linden: I thought this was fixed. Is it not yet released? | ||
| [15:14] Bridie Linden hmms | ||
| [15:14] You: If I remember correctly, we made some fixes, but not all... | ||
| [15:15] You: I'll ping Steve about this one...unless Bambers knows? | ||
| [15:15] You: Bambers is prolly busy delegating... :) | ||
| [15:15] Bambers Linden: It wasn't fixed completely | ||
| [15:15] Bambers Linden: But we never saw it affecting bluetooth mighty mouse | ||
| [15:16] Squirrel Wood: /ao off | ||
| [15:16] You: I'll import and link up | ||
| [15:16] You: Hey Squirrel! | ||
| [15:16] You: Welcome | ||
| [15:16] Torley Linden: yo Squirrel! | ||
| [15:16] Torley Linden: glad you could make it | ||
| [15:16] Squirrel Wood: I has arrived! | ||
| [15:16] Squirrel Wood: Hellu! | ||
| [15:16] norritt Xi: Hey Squirrel! | ||
| [15:16] Bridie Linden claps for Squirrel | ||
| [15:16] You: Next up... | ||
| [15:16] You: # VWR-6586[c] - Votes: 1 - Scale values in Avatar mode on 3DConnexion controller appear to do nothing - CodeWarrior Carling | ||
| [15:16] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6586 | ||
| [15:16] Bri Gufler: I tried this - the scale values seem to have no effect. | ||
| [15:16] You: I'm not sure what those values are supposed to do... | ||
| [15:17] Squirrel Wood pulls out chocolate Sarts "Anyone?" | ||
| [15:17] You: Torley do you know? | ||
| [15:17] You: yummers! | ||
| [15:17] Aric Linden is allergic to chocolate | ||
| [15:17] Torley Linden: yes, it's a bit difficult to describe, lemme check quickly tho too... hmmm | ||
| [15:17] Torley Linden: what Aimee there mentioned sounds correct | ||
| [15:17] Torley Linden: to my knowledge we don't yet have analogue, variable velocity movement | ||
| [15:17] You: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Space_Navigator | ||
| [15:17] Torley Linden: would be nice but i'd check with Steve + 3Dconnexion peeps on this to be sure | ||
| [15:17] Torley Linden: *tries to repro quickly* | ||
| [15:18] You: I couldn't tell what it did/didn't do, honestly | ||
| [15:18] You: but is fun watching you all test | ||
| [15:18] Bridie Linden grins | ||
| [15:18] Bri Gufler: certainly on XP the values don't seem to do anything. | ||
| [15:18] Torley Linden: yeah there's no gradual scale between 0.00 and 1.00 | ||
| [15:19] You: and does -1 == off? or ?? | ||
| [15:19] Torley Linden: as soon as you set it to 0.01 it works the same as 1.00 | ||
| [15:19] Blue Linden is Online | ||
| [15:19] norritt Xi: Humm is this me being blind or is "Advanced -> Character -> Show Look At" not working any more in RC8? | ||
| [15:19] Which Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:19] Torley Linden: -1 is only off for the Axis maps on top | ||
| [15:19] Torley Linden: 0 is effectively off for Scale | ||
| [15:20] Torley Linden: UI wise i think we shouldn't allow scale settings if they actually don't do anything, to remove confusion | ||
| [15:20] You: Not sure Norritt | ||
| [15:20] Torley Linden: so i'd suggest import here and followup to CLARIFY | ||
| [15:20] Ramzi Linden is Online | ||
| [15:20] Torley Linden: :) | ||
| [15:20] Bridie Linden nods to Torley | ||
| [15:20] You: Next | ||
| [15:20] You: VWR-6626[c] - Votes: 1 - Spacenavigator Not Recognised MacOS | ||
| [15:20] Torley Linden: SpaceNavigator is so much fun, BTW, if anyone here hasn't tried it | ||
| [15:20] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6626 | ||
| [15:20] Johan Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:20] Phoenix Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:20] Torley Linden: hmmm | ||
| [15:20] Bri Gufler: I did some testing on this one today. | ||
| [15:21] Ekim Linden is Online | ||
| [15:21] Bri Gufler: interestingly enough - the spacenav seemed to work FINE without the 3dconnexion drivers. | ||
| [15:21] You: Are you on leopard Bri? | ||
| [15:21] Torley Linden: i suggest Needs More Info here, and make sure the person has "Enable Joystick" in Joystick Configuration checked... that was a common usability slipup across platforms | ||
| [15:21] Bri Gufler: after I installed them it would not work. | ||
| [15:21] Bri Gufler: Yes 10.5.3 | ||
| [15:21] Torley Linden: really Bri? odd! | ||
| [15:21] Torley Linden: i haven't tried my SN on Leopard yet | ||
| [15:21] You: I'm still on Tiger | ||
| [15:21] Bri Gufler: I had not tried it on a Mac until today. | ||
| [15:22] Torley Linden: i'd at least make sure this Resident had "Enable Joystick" checked. | ||
| [15:22] Bri Gufler: I generally use it on my XP machine | ||
| [15:22] Bri Gufler: I tihink the screenshot shows they did | ||
| [15:22] Bri Gufler: but it was showing the Optical mouse instead of the spacenav | ||
| [15:22] Torley Linden: i don't see a screenshot here :O | ||
| [15:22] Bri Gufler: oh I think I looked at the related one | ||
| [15:22] You: descr says: [x] Enable Joystick : Apple Optical USB Mouse | ||
| [15:22] Torley Linden: hmmm | ||
| [15:23] Torley Linden: oh i see that :\ | ||
| [15:23] Bri Gufler: after installing the 3dconnexion drivers I could no longer use the spacenav - i saw the same behavior - it said "Apple Optical USB Mouse" | ||
| [15:23] Torley Linden: thanks for checking into that Bri | ||
| [15:23] Torley Linden: i wonder if the same thing that worked for you will work for Chance? | ||
| [15:23] Torley Linden: (uninstall drivers) | ||
| [15:23] Bri Gufler: I am going to suggest it in Jira | ||
| [15:23] Bri Gufler: Just did this testing 5 minutes before the meeting | ||
| [15:23] Torley Linden: yeah, it's not the end, but it is a workaround for now... thanks!! | ||
| [15:24] You: Thx! | ||
| [15:24] Torley Linden: wow James24 fancy ballerina moves there | ||
| [15:24] Bri Gufler: Yeah its definitely not ideal - because that renders the spacenav useless for other apps | ||
| [15:24] James24 Bravin: hello | ||
| [15:24] You: Bri, could you update the title to include leopard? | ||
| [15:24] Bri Gufler: Will do | ||
| [15:25] You: ty | ||
| [15:25] You: Next up | ||
| [15:25] You: VWR-6623[c] - Votes: 1 - After downloading 1.20.18 I can not install I get 30 "error can not open for writing" messages most are .dll or db2 files - | ||
| [15:25] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6623 | ||
| [15:25] Torley Linden: another person with the same problem said Strife's suggestion worked in the comments | ||
| [15:25] Torley Linden: confirm with original reporter if still a prob for them? | ||
| [15:25] Torley Linden: "Needs More Info" | ||
| [15:26] You: will do! | ||
| [15:26] Torley Linden: =) | ||
| [15:26] Squirrel Wood: Needs more Torley :) | ||
| [15:26] Torley Linden: lolex | ||
| [15:26] You: ha! | ||
| [15:26] You: Next up... | ||
| [15:26] You: VWR-6697[c] - Votes: 1 - RC 1.20.2 (85278): System freeze after login under linux | ||
| [15:27] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6697 | ||
| [15:27] Gellan Glenelg: RC2 ? | ||
| [15:27] You: Looks like we can resolve this one | ||
| [15:27] You: based upon Suzan's own comment! | ||
| [15:27] Torley Linden: yes good | ||
| [15:27] Torley Linden: i love it when a plan comes together | ||
| [15:27] Bridie Linden 's favorite kind o bug | ||
| [15:27] Samuel Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:27] You: Next up | ||
| [15:27] Torley Linden: BEHOLD... the SELF-RESOLVING WONDER! | ||
| [15:27] You: # VWR-6653[c] - Votes: 1 - Anti-ailiasing no longer visible on mac client - Court Goodman | ||
| [15:28] Ryan Linden is Online | ||
| [15:28] Pastrami Linden: definitely one for runitai | ||
| [15:28] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6653 | ||
| [15:28] Bridie Linden nods | ||
| [15:28] Bri Gufler: This may be fixed with RC8 | ||
| [15:28] Bri Gufler: I couldn't reproduce this under RC8 - I am running an 8800GT on my Mac Pro | ||
| [15:28] Bridie Linden is 'beholding' Tuckaxe's wardrobe change... | ||
| [15:29] Aric Linden: it might be PPC specific | ||
| [15:29] Aric Linden: what mac hardware are you using? | ||
| [15:29] Bri Gufler: Intel | ||
| [15:29] Bri Gufler: but his hardware list said Intel as well | ||
| [15:29] Bri Gufler: CPU: 8 x i386 (Unknown) (3000 MHz) ? | ||
| [15:29] Bri Gufler: was what he reported | ||
| [15:29] Bao Linden is Online | ||
| [15:29] Bri Gufler: thats what I have - one of the new 8-core mac Pros | ||
| [15:30] Aric Linden: ? | ||
| [15:30] You: 8-core?? | ||
| [15:30] Nya Linden: O.o | ||
| [15:30] Torley Linden: ohhh fancy, what do you need all those cores for, Bri? Maya? :D | ||
| [15:30] Aric Linden: are you looking at 6683? | ||
| [15:30] Bri Gufler: 2 quad core proccessors :) | ||
| [15:30] norritt Xi: More power hrhrhr | ||
| [15:30] Ramzi Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:30] Bri Gufler: oh Im looking at 6653 | ||
| [15:30] Aric Linden: ahh | ||
| [15:30] Aric Linden: ok | ||
| [15:30] Jaime Linden is Online | ||
| [15:30] Liana Linden is Online | ||
| [15:30] Aric Linden: I was scared for a moment | ||
| [15:30] Bri Gufler: I thought that was the one we were on now | ||
| [15:30] You: one sec folks | ||
| [15:30] Sue Linden is Online | ||
| [15:30] Sheet Spotter: Is Marvin Haller griefing? | ||
| [15:31] Squirrel Wood: temp prims | ||
| [15:31] Torley Linden: never a dull moment, that's for sure | ||
| [15:31] Zen Linden is Online | ||
| [15:32] Colton Linden: let me blow those away | ||
| [15:32] Torley Linden: thanks Colton :) | ||
| [15:32] Torley Linden: hahaha | ||
| [15:32] You: Ty Colton | ||
| [15:32] Torley Linden: very apt thing for a fan to say | ||
| [15:32] norritt Xi: LMAO Colton that is the best avatar ever! | ||
| [15:32] Bri Gufler: :) | ||
| [15:32] Simon Kline: hehe G team rocks :D | ||
| [15:32] Torley Linden: norritt, that fan has an incredible commercial ad too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/miyaoka/2517527479/ :) | ||
| [15:33] You: what'd we decide w/6653? | ||
| [15:33] You: +1 Simon | ||
| [15:33] Torley Linden: Bridie, it's a good one for Runitai | ||
| [15:33] Torley Linden: is what Pastrami sez earlier | ||
| [15:33] Bridie Linden nods | ||
| [15:33] Torley Linden: mmhmm | ||
| [15:33] Bri Gufler: I def can't repro 6653 on the same hardware with RC8 | ||
| [15:33] Bri Gufler: so hopefully its fixed already :) | ||
| [15:33] You: pls comment Bri, thx! | ||
| [15:33] Aric Linden: you have rc8 Bri? | ||
| [15:33] You: gold sarts for Bri | ||
| [15:33] Bri Gufler: Yes | ||
| [15:33] Aric Linden blinks | ||
| [15:34] Torley Linden: yeah, that picture "Picture 7.png" is really dark and not a good example of whether antialiasing works or not | ||
| [15:34] You: i have RC9 Aric | ||
| [15:34] You: Next up..an older issue... | ||
| [15:34] You: VWR-6683[c] - Votes: 1 - 1.20RC2 - Immediate crash when clicking OK on blue pop-up window (MacOs) | ||
| [15:34] norritt Xi: Aww very peacful commercial | ||
| [15:34] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6683 | ||
| [15:35] Zen Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:35] Jill Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:35] Conover's Flight-Helper 6.3.3 (WEAR ME!): Flight-helper is ready and operational. | ||
| [15:36] You: I think we can resolve 6683 | ||
| [15:36] norritt Xi: Hey Colton I could use some fresh air its really hot here, so if you don't mind ;) | ||
| [15:36] Torley Linden: it seems that way to me too... it'd be hotter if it was still a problem | ||
| [15:36] You: me too Torley | ||
| [15:36] Torley Linden: that is a pretty straightforward repro, afterall | ||
| [15:36] You: And from APril | ||
| [15:36] You: Next... | ||
| [15:36] You: VWR-6788[c] - Votes: 1 - Ctrl-Alt-LMouseclick on avatar zoomes camera out instead of focusing on avatar - | ||
| [15:37] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6788 | ||
| [15:37] Torley Linden: ok, well this isn't critical... and it sounds like a dupe of existing camera bugs | ||
| [15:37] Torley Linden: where was that one *looks* | ||
| [15:37] You: yeah | ||
| [15:38] Torley Linden: i think i know what this Resident is describing, it's frustrating/annoying at times but can be worked around | ||
| [15:38] Torley Linden: one of the oldest... https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-98 | ||
| [15:38] Torley Linden: it sounds like the same bug | ||
| [15:38] You: yup | ||
| [15:39] Torley Linden: this is a KEY example of where a video comes in handy (and of course, the VWR-98) has videos ;) | ||
| [15:39] Jaime Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:39] Torley Linden: so yeah, i'm betting VWR-6788 is either VWR-98 or https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1286 (similar but different) | ||
| [15:39] Bridie Linden nods | ||
| [15:40] You: Next... | ||
| [15:40] You: VWR-6933[c] - Votes: 1 - Disabling Ripple Water also disables glow - | ||
| [15:40] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6933 | ||
| [15:40] Pastrami Linden: nigpapi | ||
| [15:40] Torley Linden: this one sounds freakishly familiar from the ol' WindLight days | ||
| [15:40] Pastrami Linden: bigpapi | ||
| [15:40] Bambers Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:40] Harleen Gretzky: this is easily worked around by alt-zooming instead of clicking, correct? | ||
| [15:40] Pastrami Linden: actually | ||
| [15:40] Pastrami Linden: zen | ||
| [15:40] You: kk | ||
| [15:40] Bri Gufler: Im assuming by "ripple water" they mean "basic shaders"? | ||
| [15:40] Pastrami Linden: probably | ||
| [15:40] Torley Linden: Pastrami, it reminds me of some of the ATI issues but i note they're on a Go5200... Zen would know whether there's limited shader support | ||
| [15:41] Torley Linden: yeah Bri they should be very clear about that | ||
| [15:41] Pastrami Linden: yeah Torley | ||
| [15:41] Torley Linden: we don't call it "ripple water" anymore for that exact, distinct reason | ||
| [15:41] Zen Linden is Online | ||
| [15:41] Bri Gufler: So I guess my question is - is glow a function of the shader support? If so this may not be a bug. | ||
| [15:41] Torley Linden: i'd also confirm the obvious: if they updated their drivers to the newest | ||
| [15:41] Harleen Gretzky: Looks like they disabled ripple water under debug settings | ||
| [15:41] Bri Gufler: ah ok | ||
| [15:42] You: Next up | ||
| [15:42] You: VWR-6989[c] - Votes: 1 - joystick flycam - zoomlevel jumps - | ||
| [15:42] Torley Linden: sidenote: we don't officially support stuff in Advanced menu (incl. Debug Settings) unless it's a different way to access an existing UI element or other feature | ||
| [15:42] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6989 | ||
| [15:42] norritt Xi: Torley: I think 169 is the newest driver for the 5200 Go | ||
| [15:43] Joshua Linden is Online | ||
| [15:43] Harleen Gretzky: Maybe ripple water should be removed now that it is deprecated | ||
| [15:43] Torley Linden: i've not had this problem | ||
| [15:43] MJ Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:43] You: and this "Also it forgets the old values of the flycam-mode it had the last time. " has been fixed | ||
| [15:43] Torley Linden: hmmm... | ||
| [15:43] Zen Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:43] Torley Linden: haha i just used Flycam and now i see us all upside down | ||
| [15:44] You: ha | ||
| [15:44] KyleJM Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:44] Torley Linden: one other possible thing i can think of... | ||
| [15:44] norritt Xi: nvidia doesn't even list it any more on their page I had the same problems on my notebook with the GeForce 4 mobile. Finally I had to switch to nVidea Omega drivers due to the lack of vendor support. | ||
| [15:44] Torley Linden: is that SirOb Voom didn't calibrate SpaceNavigator in the drivers | ||
| [15:44] Torley Linden: if you don't calibrate, it can lead to weird jumpiness | ||
| [15:44] Torley Linden: or the camera will drift by itself | ||
| [15:44] You: Comment please, Torley? | ||
| [15:44] Torley Linden: sure :) | ||
| [15:44] Steve Linden is Online | ||
| [15:45] You: Ty! | ||
| [15:45] You: Next | ||
| [15:45] You: # VWR-7045[c] - Votes: 1 - Copy Selection tool broken in 1.20 RC - Hypatia Callisto | ||
| [15:45] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7045 | ||
| [15:45] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7045 | ||
| [15:45] Zee Linden is Online | ||
| [15:46] You: Looks like this isn't happening anymore... | ||
| [15:46] You: I'll resolve | ||
| [15:47] Torley Linden: hmmm there is one longtime subtlety with this Copy Selection... https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4471 i wonder if Hypatia was trying to do that | ||
| [15:47] Zee Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:47] Torley Linden: i'll leave a comment... | ||
| [15:47] You: Next up | ||
| [15:47] You: VWR-7137[c] - Votes: 1 - Viewer Crashes on Quit - Macintosh - | ||
| [15:47] Jill Linden is Online | ||
| [15:47] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7137 | ||
| [15:47] Seraph Linden is Online | ||
| [15:47] Zee Linden is Online | ||
| [15:48] You: Shawna likes brevity | ||
| [15:48] Torley Linden: LOL | ||
| [15:48] Seraph Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:48] Torley Linden: hahah terse | ||
| [15:48] Torley Linden: i haven't seen this since the early RCs | ||
| [15:48] Bri Gufler: There is an attachment. | ||
| [15:48] You: u open it Bri :) | ||
| [15:48] Torley Linden: it's a log as a word .doc! first time i've seen that :D | ||
| [15:48] Gellan Glenelg: it's rc6 from .doc | ||
| [15:49] Gellan Glenelg: Version: Second Life version 1.20.6.86925 (1.20.6.86925) | ||
| [15:49] Bri Gufler: and Leopard 10.5.1 | ||
| [15:49] You: ATY? | ||
| [15:50] Bri Gufler: I haven't seen this on Intel mac for a while | ||
| [15:50] norritt Xi: Maybe they thought a "ty" in their Brand name would be more polite and changed it Bri ;) | ||
| [15:50] Periapse Linden is Online | ||
| [15:50] norritt Xi: Oh we have a Bri here, | ||
| [15:51] norritt Xi: Sorry Bridie then | ||
| [15:51] Jon Linden is Online | ||
| [15:51] You: I don't see crash report for Shawna... | ||
| [15:51] Kiwini Oe is Offline | ||
| [15:52] Periapse Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:52] Squirrel Wood: could it be that that popup dialog was meant that some people got? about that dll file... whatsitsname... | ||
| [15:52] You: I'll resolve and ask her to reopen if it happens again | ||
| [15:52] You: Next | ||
| [15:52] You: # VWR-6980[c] - Votes: 1 - crash logger fails to keep "always send" setting - Shadow Pidgeon | ||
| [15:52] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6980 | ||
| [15:53] Squirrel Wood: Yes. That crash logger definitely is forgetful | ||
| [15:53] You: But i think we fixed our failure to save settings issue... | ||
| [15:53] Squirrel Wood: It *does* remember as the checkbox is checked, yet decides to ask again | ||
| [15:53] Lexie Linden is Online | ||
| [15:54] norritt Xi: Yes I have the same problem here. | ||
| [15:54] Liana Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:54] You: ah | ||
| [15:54] Squirrel Wood: so I would assume it fails to check whether the checkbox is checked | ||
| [15:54] Harleen Gretzky: I do not have that problem always sends for me | ||
| [15:55] Squirrel Wood: or loads the information *after* checking the checkbox status | ||
| [15:55] norritt Xi: Did you use the Checkbox of the Crash Logger to enable always send or the option in preferences Harleen? | ||
| [15:55] Harleen Gretzky: But my preferences are set to always ask, lol | ||
| [15:55] You: i'll import | ||
| [15:55] Harleen Gretzky: I think I checked the box on the logger itself | ||
| [15:56] You: one more for today | ||
| [15:56] You: VWR-7292[c] - Votes: 1 - "Failed to load [body part|clothing] ..." dialog improperly implies that the content creator is primarily responsible for the error. | ||
| [15:56] You: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-7292 | ||
| [15:56] Potatobug Tester is Offline | ||
| [15:56] Cheah Linden is Online | ||
| [15:56] Torley Linden: Adz's suggested wording is a bit too... wordy but i agree providing more details like a link to a KB article would have more useful context, | ||
| [15:57] Torley Linden: better than a terse-and-cryptic-and-scary message | ||
| [15:57] norritt Xi: Yes agreed that message is really misleading people | ||
| [15:57] Torley Linden: sounds like a good Rx thang Bridie | ||
| [15:57] Torley Linden: reword this dialog! | ||
| [15:57] Bri Gufler: Yeah. Definitely misleading. | ||
| [15:57] You: yup, for Rx! | ||
| [15:57] Torley Linden: i bet Jon and Erica could handle this nicely | ||
| [15:57] Bridie Linden nods | ||
| [15:57] You: Let's call it a wrap for today! | ||
| [15:57] Torley Linden: i'm usually in favor of "Hey, here's a little info. But you can also... CLICK TO LEARN MORE!" | ||
| [15:57] Torley Linden: w00t | ||
| [15:57] You: Thx so much all! | ||
| [15:58] Aric Linden: bye | ||
| [15:58] Gellan Glenelg: has any thought been given to having more than 2 triages a wek? | ||
| [15:58] Torley Linden: bye Aric! | ||
| [15:58] Pastrami Linden: bye | ||
| [15:58] Aric Linden: some thought | ||
| [15:58] Pastrami Linden is Offline | ||
| [15:58] Bri Gufler: Seeya Aric | ||
| [15:58] Torley Linden: cya Pastrami | ||
| [15:58] Aric Linden: Gellan, would you be interested in helping with another? | ||
| [15:58] Torley Linden: t'care everyone, i'm off meself... *waves and smiles* | ||
| [15:58] You: keep your eyes on the blog | ||
| [15:58] Gellan Glenelg: absolutely | ||
| [15:58] norritt Xi: bye torley! | ||
| [15:58] You: Laters! | ||
| [15:58] Bri Gufler: Take care everyone. Be well!
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